Loughner a rightie? by Niki2

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Loughner a rightie?

POSTED BY: NIKI2
UPDATED: Sunday, January 23, 2011 08:03
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Friday, January 21, 2011 2:15 PM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

I'm not sure how credible it is and I haven't heard it elsewhere, but just for those who are so eager to blame the left for Loughner:

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Details are leaking out about Jared Lee Loughner, the accused shooter in yesterday's assassination attempt/massacre in Tucson, Arizona. Loughner apparently has ties to the anti-Semitic, anti-immigration hate group American Renaissance, according to a leaked memo from the Department of Homeland Security.

It's unclear whether Loughner maintains a direct connection to the group, however, "strong suspicion is being directed" at American Renaissance in the wake of the group being referenced in Loughner's Myspace and YouTube videos, according to the memo, which was obtained by Fox News.

American Renaissance is a white nationalist group that operates under a pseudo think tank called the New Century Foundation. The group runs a magazine and conferences based on eugenics and the superiority of whites.

Gabrielle Giffords is Jewish.

http://www.the-richmonder.com/2011/01/giffords-shooter-has-ties-to-rig
ht-wing.html

Hmmm...

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

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Friday, January 21, 2011 2:20 PM

BYTEMITE

This has been reported before... Frankly, I think the kid is just nuts and had no political motivation. Looking at his face book favourites he's all over the map and looks to be trying to be as controversial as possible. The brat just wants (and wanted) attention.

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Friday, January 21, 2011 2:26 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Yup, me too...I just found it amusing given how totally convinced OUR righties are that he's a leftie...sigh...

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
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Friday, January 21, 2011 3:39 PM

DREAMTROVE

Yawn

The old "White Supremacist" tag has been applied to every criminal since WWII.

Loughner is jewish.

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Friday, January 21, 2011 3:48 PM

THEHAPPYTRADER

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Yup, me too...I just found it amusing given how totally convinced OUR righties are that he's a leftie...sigh...

Loughner was not politically motivated. He was angry at 'the government' not the right or the left but the 'government' that was 'mind controlling' us through our currency, grammar and religion. Anyone associating him with Christians is especially misinformed, as also he said he did not believe in God.

I view blame the left or right for this as equally ridiculous, but I've seen the right blamed far more often.

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Friday, January 21, 2011 3:52 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Nope. He was nuts, and leanded toward the Left, if anything.

Remember, this is the same DHS which gave us the oh so timely and convenient ...

Rightwing Extremism:

Current Economic and Political
Climate Fueling Resurgence in
Radicalization and Recruitment

http://michellemalkin.cachefly.net/michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/up
loads/2009/04/hsa-rightwing-extremism-09-04-07.pdf

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Friday, January 21, 2011 4:00 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

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Originally posted by TheHappyTrader:
the 'government' that was 'mind controlling' us through our currency, grammar and religion.

In other words, he was a paranoid schizophrenic. Likely one with no support system or anyone to encourage him to get help, since he didn't get any. What a shame.

I do not need the written code of a spiritual belief to act like a decent human being.

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Friday, January 21, 2011 4:05 PM

DREAMTROVE

Most of his blog posts seem left wing, some of them seem right wing, or at least libertarian.

He might have known Giffords personally.

His lunacy seemed to be pretty extreme, toward incoherent. That, and he had a gun. Also, he was trying very hard to get attention.

I think that perceptions will be that he was right wing tea party, because that was the MSM spin. Also, a lot of people seem to buy the white supremacist thing no matter how many times they try it. At least they didn't say he was a muslim mexican.

I think Loughner was a school shooting waiting to happen except that he got kicked out of school before he got a chance.

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Saturday, January 22, 2011 11:46 AM

CANTTAKESKY

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At least they didn't say he was a muslim mexican.

I laughed. But it's actually not funny.

Trying to associate him with any race, nationality, religion, creed, political group, or ideology is the second laziest form of ad hominem I've ever seen.

The laziest would be Godwin-ing.

Can't Take (my gorram) Sky
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Saturday, January 22, 2011 1:26 PM

DREAMTROVE

But they already tried that, as they always do, but PN appears to be right about the Jewish.

I'm afraid there's nothing political to be learned here, he's a classic school shooter type loon. I do think whoever was running the campaign, or organizing the event, if they had this many death threats they should have hired security, or warned people. And you know they didn't for political reasons, because it looks bad,

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Saturday, January 22, 2011 2:20 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

This is not a Satanic shrine, it's a JEWISH shrine to their Gods
www.texemarrs.com/012011/jared_loughner_article.htm
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=47075

"Not a single issue voter, but if I was, gay rights would be it. I just want Democrats to be tough. And I wish Obama were tougher. That’s all. I’m a proud gay. I had favorite books: The Communist Manifesto."
-Jared Lee Loughner (or his sockpuppet)
www.businessinsider.com/jared-lee-loughner-2011-1

LOUGHNER AND GIFFORDS WERE MEMBERS OF THE SAME SYNOGUE SAYS FRIEND
www.nytimes.com/2011/01/10/us/10shooter.html?pagewanted=3&_r=1&hp
http://blogs.jta.org/politics/article/2011/01/10/2742483/is-loughners-
mother-jewish
www./motherjones.com/politics/2011/01/jared-lee-loughner-friend-voicem
ail-phone-message?page=1
www.whitenewsnow.com/forums/us-news-white-folks/13368-
loughner-jewish-but-his-synagogue-congregation-chaverim-hid-fact-america.html
www.jewishjournal.com/arizona_shooting/article/alleged_arizona_shooter
_jared_lee_loughner_has_ jewish_mother_acquaintance_s/

Jew Jared Loughner may have been influenced by Satanic Babylonian Jewish Talmud, er, the occult
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/us-politics/825108
5/Gabrielle-Giffords-shooting-Jared-Loughner-may-have-been-influenced-by-occult.html

"The federal government does nothing to secure our border."
-Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ -- "former" Republican)

"If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun."
-Dictator Hussein Obama Soetoro
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0608/Obama_brings_a_gun_to_a_kn
ife_fight.html

"If I have to cross a line to blow that bitch out of the sky, I will."
-FBI Agent Erica Evans, V

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Saturday, January 22, 2011 4:58 PM

FREMDFIRMA

Seriously, the guy was so damn nuts it's not possible to DETERMINE his politics, much less assign them to any particular official party.

The only party goin on there was the ones inside his head, prolly from the alien mind control beams and whatnot... *snort*.

Just plain bugfuck nuts doesn't sell newspapers though, does it now ?

-F

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Sunday, January 23, 2011 8:03 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

I'm glad to hear MOST here recognize that yes, this was a paranoid schiz who, as Rose said, got no help from anyone and blew up. The comment about a potential school shooter is a good point.

I do find it interesting how many are quick, nonetheless, to say

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leanded toward the Left

Some minds just NEED to blame liberals, despite anything and everything. But at least most here were logical, that's good to see.

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He might have known Giffords personally

Supposedly they had met at another event, and had an exchange which upset him...again I say mental-illness "grinding", if ANYTHING political, and it wouldn't have mattered to him if she was left or right.

Things can be found to point to either side, if one wanted to. It's absurd, but it's still clung to by some (too many) on both sides. I was curious to see how this would be viewed; I'm happy to say, the majority of us seem to be sane, whatever that means!

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
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