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Comes to light Bush broke the law...again!

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Tuesday, January 25, 2011 11:33 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


This surprises exactly who?
Quote:

The Bush administration used a White House political office as a "boiler room" to support Republican congressional candidates in violation of federal law, a report released Monday by an independent government watchdog agency concludes.

The findings of the report by the Office of Special Counsel echo those of a 2008 House Oversight Committee investigation, which concluded that the activities of the Office of Political Affairs during the administration of President George W. Bush represented a "gross abuse of the public trust."

The Office of Special Counsel report addresses alleged violations of the Hatch Act, a 1939 law meant to prevent using federal employees and resources in political activities. It forbids most federal employees from engaging in political activity while on duty and forbids the use of federal funds altogether.

The White House political unit, or OPA, has typically been used in an advisory role to help keep the president, appointees and others briefed on political matters, according to the Office of Special Counsel, an independent federal agency responsible for enforcing the Hatch Act.

But the agency's investigators found that the Bush-era political affairs office went well beyond that role. Its functions were so intertwined with those of the GOP that at one point employees of the Republican National Committee were working out of OPA offices.

"OPA employees, particularly during the 2006 midterm election season, methodically coordinated administration support to aid the campaigns of Republican candidates," according to the report.

Investigators found that White House political office employees improperly coordinated travel by high-ranking political appointees, including Cabinet members, particularly in support of Republican members of Congress whom the White House had designated as vulnerable in the 2006 election.

The agency also found that the administration and executive agencies did not always properly categorize such travel as political and failed to get reimbursed by campaigns, as federal law requires.

The investigation also concluded that some 75 political briefings conducted by White House political office staffers were improper because they were held in government offices, during working hours or were conducted by employees who weren't exempt from the Hatch Act prohibition on political activity.

"In 2006, the partisan political activity of OPA staff was not incidental to the functions of the office," the report said. "Instead, the OPA director and deputy director focused the time and energy of OPA staff to help advance the Republican Party's electoral prospects, thereby transforming the office into a setting akin to a political boiler room."

Karl Rove, who as a deputy chief of staff to Bush oversaw the White House's 2006 political strategy, did not return a telephone message seeking comment.

In testimony included in the report, Kenneth Mehlmann, who set up Bush's political affairs office and served as its first director, said the office was "by definition" partisan. He said the office took care to separate official and political functions, going so far as to give OPA staffers a second set of computers, printers, e-mail accounts and telephones for use on partisan work.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/01/25/bush.political.office/index.htm
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It's always blown me away that they tried to impeach Clinton for lying to Congress and Nixon for...well, whatever he did...yet nobody seriously tried to impeach Bush for TRULY breaking so many laws the list is endless. I'll never understand it...except maybe that the Republican propaganda machine and willingness to do anything is so much bigger than the Democrats. And Democrats are wimps.

I swear, the more we learn, the more it's obvious that Bush/Cheney/Rove should have been imprisoned!


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Tuesday, January 25, 2011 1:27 PM

FREMDFIRMA



Worst of it is, by lettin them slide, they'll wind up in some future scumbag presidents cabinet, doin the same and worse, all over again...

Compare Nixons cabinet with that of Reagan or Bush, hell, Rumsfeld's been sleazing around that way for years.

Over and over, cause we forgive and forget.

If we can't throw em in prison, we should at the very LEAST bar them from political office ever again.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Tuesday, January 25, 2011 1:46 PM

WHOZIT


Robert Kennedy taped Martin Luther King having sex with white women, let's dig Kennedy up and then beat him with the shovel.

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Tuesday, January 25, 2011 2:01 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


You got that right, Frem! "New boss same as the old boss"? Nahhh..."New boss, OLD boss"!

And hey, we don't "forgive and forget", we just FORGET! If "we" were ever paying much attention in the first place.


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Tuesday, January 25, 2011 3:11 PM

FREMDFIRMA



Well, you know...

Remember how I occasionally point out that the office of the POTUS and those assigned to it are by my standards, inviolate ?

That no matter what he has done, what crimes they have committed, while in office the notion of violence against them is morally reprehensible to me ?

Thing is, they're not *IN* office anymore.
Just sayin...

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Tuesday, January 25, 2011 3:36 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


There really needs to be a snore emoticon here.


* yawn *


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Wednesday, January 26, 2011 2:01 AM

CANTTAKESKY


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
I swear, the more we learn, the more it's obvious that Bush/Cheney/Rove should have been imprisoned!

I believed this DURING the Bush Presidency.


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Everything I say is just my opinion, not fact.

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Wednesday, January 26, 2011 5:29 AM

KANEMAN


John F Kennedy wire-tapped innocent Americans and had sex with a famous blonde, lets dig him up, put the piece of his head that was blown off.. back on, and then slap it back off.

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Wednesday, January 26, 2011 5:49 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:
John F Kennedy wire-tapped innocent Americans and had sex with a famous blonde, lets dig him up, put the piece of his head that was blown off.. back on, and then slap it back off.



Seriously. Niki continues this nonsense by digging up a bit of inconsequential tripe , which every single elected member in D.C. has likely done, to some degree or another, and acts as if we need some Nuremberg trial over it.

It's been two years, and I guess since Obama is falling flat on his face, Niki seems to think that by conflating the " But Bush ! " mantra, over and over, that'll draw attention away from the real crooks in the WH at present.

Sad.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Wednesday, January 26, 2011 7:38 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Oooh, a Bush bashing thread! Reminds me of the good ole days here. By the way Niki, any comments on the illegal and treasonous activities of Clinton / Gore and their campaign efforts from the White House to solicit money from reps of Communist China? AG Janet Reno killed those investigations. Too bad.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/campfin/backgrou
nd.htm


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_United_States_campaign_finance_contr
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Wednesday, January 26, 2011 8:23 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Glad to hear someone else understands, CTTS.

As to what illegal acts were done by ANY Prez, I'm all for holding them accountable. I bring up Bush because he so blatantly broke the law (and the Constitution) and obtained previously unheard of power in doing so, that I believe he is the most egregious example of it. I will never understand how he was able to get away with all the things he did, and of course Obama is continuing far too many of them, for which I hold him accountable as well.

The idea that two Presidents were up for impeachment for the reasons they were, contrasted with the blatant law breaking of Bush, over and over and over, has always astounded me. Given those were both Democratic Presidents, I can do nothing but admire the Republicans gamesmanship and call the Democrats TOTAL WIMPS. And I'm not calling for any Nuremburg--tho' it's already been made clear that if he were to travel to some countries, he would be arrested. I'm just pointing out that even now things are coming to light which further show how he abused our laws and Constitution.


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Wednesday, January 26, 2011 10:10 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:
John F Kennedy wire-tapped innocent Americans and had sex with a famous blonde, lets dig him up, put the piece of his head that was blown off.. back on, and then slap it back off.



Seriously. Niki continues this nonsense by digging up a bit of inconsequential tripe , which every single elected member in D.C. has likely done, to some degree or another, and acts as if we need some Nuremberg trial over it.

It's been two years, and I guess since Obama is falling flat on his face, Niki seems to think that by conflating the " But Bush ! " mantra, over and over, that'll draw attention away from the real crooks in the WH at present.

Sad.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "



Coming from a guy who spent a decade going "but Clinton..." as an attempt to derail any criticism of your holy Dubya, that's pretty damned funny.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Wednesday, January 26, 2011 11:12 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:

Coming from a guy who spent a decade going "but Clinton..." as an attempt to derail any criticism of your holy Dubya, that's pretty damned funny.



Clinton lied, and was impeached for it. Not so with Bush. And you're wrong about the "but Clinton " claim. Those remarks were valid. Clinton said nearly exactly the same things about Iraq and Saddam as Bush, yet the Left only criticized Bush. Why is that ?

I've openly criticized Bush for lots of stuff, so it's nonsensical for you to say I tried to " derail" anything in that area.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Wednesday, January 26, 2011 1:25 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Ooo, that argument's a loser:
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Clinton lied, and was impeached for it. Not so with Bush. And you're wrong about the "but Clinton " claim. Those remarks were valid. Clinton said nearly exactly the same things about Iraq and Saddam as Bush, yet the Left only criticized Bush. Why is that ?
How about because Bush STARTED A WAR WITH IRAQ, which Clinton didn't?...And did it by lying to Congress and the American people, by the way.
Quote:

Bill Clinton, President of the United States, was impeached by the House of Representatives on charges of perjury and obstruction of justice on December 19, 1998, but acquitted by the Senate on February 12, 1999. Two other impeachment articles, a second perjury charge and a charge of abuse of power, failed in the House.
So he wasn't impeached, except by one House of Congress, which makes it not a formal impeachment.

Clinton lied, nobody argues that. But Bush lied about things having to do with our national defense, our civil rights, and SO much more, there is just no comparison. So where were you righties to cry fowl when he did?

Clinton broke one law; Bush broke many, including international law, to the point where he can't travel to some countries without risking arrest! How much more does anyone need to know? Whatever Clinton did, Bush bested him many times over, and Obama is continuing what Bush started, which is a clear argument against letting any President break laws and avoid the Constitution; once one gets away with it, the others will follow.

By the way, if perjury and abuse of power were impeachable offenses in the eyes of the House, why WASN'T Bush impeached? Can you actually claim he did neither?


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Wednesday, January 26, 2011 2:27 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:Ooo, that argument's a loser:
Quote:

Clinton lied, and was impeached for it. Not so with Bush. And you're wrong about the "but Clinton " claim. Those remarks were valid. Clinton said nearly exactly the same things about Iraq and Saddam as Bush, yet the Left only criticized Bush. Why is that ?
How about because Bush STARTED A WAR WITH IRAQ, which Clinton didn't?...And did it by lying to Congress and the American people, by the way.



No, he didn't. Which is the basis for the whole " but Clinton " point which I JUST brought up, and which you JUST ignored. Classic.

Quote:

Bill Clinton, President of the United States, was impeached by the House of Representatives on charges of perjury and obstruction of justice on December 19, 1998, but acquitted by the Senate on February 12, 1999. Two other impeachment articles, a second perjury charge and a charge of abuse of power, failed in the House.

So he wasn't impeached, except by one House of Congress, which makes it not a formal impeachment.

Clinton lied, nobody argues that. But Bush lied about things having to do with our national defense, our civil rights, and SO much more, there is just no comparison. So where were you righties to cry fowl when he did?



Clinton was impeached. There's no way around that. But he wasn't charged.

Also,Bush didn't lie.

Next.

Quote:



Clinton broke one law; Bush broke many, including international law, to the point where he can't travel to some countries without risking arrest! How much more does anyone need to know? Whatever Clinton did, Bush bested him many times over, and Obama is continuing what Bush started, which is a clear argument against letting any President break laws and avoid the Constitution; once one gets away with it, the others will follow.

By the way, if perjury and abuse of power were impeachable offenses in the eyes of the House, why WASN'T Bush impeached? Can you actually claim he did neither?




Already have....


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, January 27, 2011 8:12 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Oh, jezus, I can't believe it. You STILL want to insist Bush didn't lie? He even ADMITTED it several times. Do I really need to look up all the reports of all the lies, from his drunk driving arrest to lying about Rumsfeld's firing to admissions about leaking information to Iraq itself?? I will if you insist, because I'm sick to DEATH of the revisionist history of "he didn't lie".

As to starting the war, how about "INVADED IRAQ", which is more specific. Whatever anyone before him did, Bush is the one who had us invade Iraq--again with a lot of lies, given he himself admitted he was planning to overthrow Saddam FROM THE START OF HIS PRESIDENCY!

Do you REALLY need quotes and cites to prove your desperately-held belief that Bush didn't lie? I don't want to take the time to quote them, and I don't want to rehash Bush any more, but that LIE bugs the hell out of me!


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