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The New American Pessimism
Tuesday, March 29, 2011 1:19 PM
CANTTAKESKY
Quote:I can’t remember when I last heard someone genuinely optimistic about the future of this country. I discount politicians, investment bankers and generals since their line of work requires that they offer upbeat assessments of everything from our deteriorating economy to our suicidal wars, and assorted narcissists accustomed to shutting their eyes to the plight of their fellow Americans. The outright prophets of doom and gloom among our friends and acquaintances tended to be a rare breed until recently. They were mostly found among the elderly, whose lives had an inordinate share of tragedies and disappointments, so one didn’t take their bleak outlook as applicable to the rest of us. One encountered inveterate optimists, idealists, or even Niebuhrian realists in the past; now, one finds people of all ages and backgrounds eager to tell you how screwed up everything is, and, on a more personal note, what a difficult time they are having—not just making ends meet, but understanding why the country they thought they knew has become unrecognizable. Just look at the assault on the rights of state workers that Wisconsin’s new governor Scott Walker and a group of state senators have rammed through a rump legislature without any debate. The same approach is now spreading to several other states in the heartland. In the new USA, teachers, union workers, women, children, the unemployed and the hopeless are the cause of unsustainable deficits, and a dog-eat-dog philosophy that is supposed to make us great again prevails. It must be difficult for any hostess nowadays to stop her dinner guests from reciting to each other over the course of an evening the endless examples of lies and stupidities they’ve come across in the press and on TV. As they get more and more wound up, they try to outdo each other, losing all interest in the food on their plates. I know that when I get together with friends, we make a conscious effort to change the subject and talk about grandchildren, reminisce about the past and the movies we’ve seen, though we can’t manage it for very long. We end up disheartening and demoralizing each other and saying goodnight, embarrassed and annoyed with ourselves, as if being upset about what is being done to us is not a subject fit for polite society. In an atmosphere of growing anxiety and hysteria, in which the true causes and the scale of our dire national predicament are deliberately concealed and obfuscated by our political establishment and by the corporate media, no wonder there’s confusion and anger everywhere. As anyone who has traveled around this country and talked to people knows, Americans are not just badly informed, but downright ignorant about most things that affect their lives. How nice it would be if our President leveled with us and told us that our deficit is caused in significant part by the wars we are fighting in Afghanistan and Pakistan, the hundreds of military bases we are maintaining around the world, the huge tax breaks for the rich, and the bailout of Wall Street. As we know, we are not about to hear anything of the kind. By the president’s calculation, telling the truth to the American people would doom his reelection campaign, since he would not be able to raise the billion dollars he needs this time around. The kind of people who have that kind of money and will agree to contribute to his campaign know very well what informed voters in a working democracy would to do to them once they understood just who has depleted the national treasury to line their own pockets. No doubt, he and his political party will do anything to avoid the truth and will propose outwardly attractive solutions—like the health care bill that not only expands coverage but greatly benefits insurance companies and does little to reduce healthcare costs. They hope that these kinds of measures will lure the majority of voters who won’t bother to learn the details, but they will also send a clear signal to the moneyed classes that they won’t be inconvenienced in the least. As for those who continue to insist that there’s something fundamentally wrong with a democracy that doesn’t address the ever-growing income inequality the sheer madness of our open-ended military ventures in Afghanistan, the miseries of the sick and unemployed, the suffering of the near destitute and of the children and the old, they’ll be dismissed as being unrealistic in present circumstances and reminded that with the other party in power things would be even worse. The reason pessimists are multiplying is that we dishonor the intellect and the knowledge of history in this country by refusing to admit that corruption is the source of our ills. It takes no great mental effort to realize that there’s no effective political forces either in Washington or locally that are able to do anything serious to correct our self-delusions about being the world’s policeman, because any sensible solution would seriously cut into profits of this or that interest group. They say the monkey scratches its fleas with the key that opens its cage. That may strike one as being very funny or very sad. Unfortunately, that’s where we are now.
Tuesday, March 29, 2011 2:39 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
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Tuesday, March 29, 2011 5:42 PM
HARDWARE
Tuesday, March 29, 2011 6:31 PM
Tuesday, March 29, 2011 6:51 PM
THEHAPPYTRADER
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 1:19 AM
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 2:23 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: I hear ya, HT. Wouldn't it be something if teachers got all the resources and bailouts, and banks had to hold a bake sale to buy a congressman?
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 4:02 AM
FREMDFIRMA
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 4:57 AM
DREAMTROVE
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 7:48 AM
HKCAVALIER
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 12:30 PM
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 12:42 PM
PENGUIN
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 2:39 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: Of course, I got a few ideas involving ovens and bankers for that myself... and HEY LOOK, Brownies....
Thursday, March 31, 2011 4:26 AM
TWO
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Hey, bank CEO, see if you can reach that one - the one WAAAAYYY in the back of the giant oven!
Thursday, March 31, 2011 4:54 AM
PIZMOBEACH
... fully loaded, safety off...
Quote:Originally posted by two: The U.S. is pouring shiploads of cash into yet another war, this time in Libya, while simultaneously demolishing school budgets, closing libraries, laying off teachers, and generally letting the bottom fall out of the quality of life here at home. The U.S. has misplaced its priorities. The most powerful country on Earth finds it so easy to plunge into warfare but impossible to find adequate work for its people or to properly educate its young.
Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:28 AM
BYTEMITE
Thursday, March 31, 2011 7:03 AM
Thursday, March 31, 2011 7:36 AM
JONGSSTRAW
Thursday, March 31, 2011 7:52 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: 75 years ago things in America and the world must have looked pretty bleak and hopeless. America and the world were suffering through the worst economic depression in history; armed forces of fascism and world dominance were on the march. Japan had invaded China and Manchuria; Italy was at war in Africa, and Nazi Germany was annexing Austria, Czechoslovakia, and on the march in Northern Africa. One out of 4 Americans couldn't find work. It must have seemed hopeless back then to the average person struggling to feed and clothe his family. But America and the free world did survive. We defeated the forces of enslavement and genocide, and our economy roared back in a period of growth and expansion that the world had never seen before. The spirit of America will never die, and hopefully we'll conquer our problems in time, and pass on a country that our children and grandchildren can flourish in.
Thursday, March 31, 2011 8:53 AM
Thursday, March 31, 2011 9:48 AM
Thursday, March 31, 2011 10:30 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: 75 years ago things in America and the world must have looked pretty bleak and hopeless.
Thursday, March 31, 2011 12:08 PM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote: There's a saying that no empire lasts more than 300 years. If so, we've just about run our course.
Quote: Wouldn't it be something if teachers got all the resources and bailouts, and banks had to hold a bake sale to buy a congressman?
Thursday, March 31, 2011 1:33 PM
Quote:Originally posted by dreamtrove: One thing I'm most confident about is that US policy is being directed by something other than the will or best interests of its people. Whatever you make of underlying forces at work, the pattern is pretty clear: The US is getting repeatedly militarily involved in the overthrow of regimes of nations that won't sign international trade agreements, to which end we are pouring the lions share of resources, and have been doing so increasingly since the 1990s. Considering that the US is no longer a major exporter, and is internally falling apart as an economy, with a rapidly decaying currency, it seems hard to credit that forcing foreign powers to sign international trade agreements is not worth the effort for us that we are putting into it, and I'm increasingly skeptical that it is in our best interests at all. Anyone might recall that when I came here five years ago I was more or less in favor of international trade agreements. Now I find myself increasingly opposed. The idea of free trade is not without merit, but to the end where a country loses control of its own economy, be it us or some nation in which we interfere, it's definitely a detriment, and at the moment, the existence of such agreements is not benefiting the United States, and I don't see where it will be in the foreseeable future. ETA: I would also humbly suggest that when, as a military conflict approaches and escalates, new information about the evilness of the leaders of said nations, or the atrocities there within, should be discarded out of hand as propaganda. Sure, there may be a shred of truth within them (though sometimes not) but it generally does not represent change, policy, or anything important. To wit, a story my sister sent me from a couple years ago in the US about a teacher who killed a student after school, because the student had spoken out of turn in class. Objectively, we can look at such a story and think "Well, the situation probably escalated from there, maybe there was a history, there are pieces missing from this story, but in any event: What a psycho!" Now, imagine how such a story might run if Hamas, Fars, or any mainstay mideast non-english publication got ahold of it. I can see the headline now: "How the Education System in America Really Works" That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.
Thursday, March 31, 2011 1:40 PM
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