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Originally posted by Hardware:
And leftists have never used the big lie strategy. Oh wait, what was the name of their party? National SOCIALIST party.

Hmm, I think I'm seeing a connection.

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Parties in various contexts have referred to themselves as National Socialist parties. Because there is no clear definition of national socialism, the term has been used to mean very different things. Since the rise of German Nazism, which called itself "National Socialism", the term has been used in Europe and North America almost exclusively by political parties with combined authoritarian, racial and nationalist views.

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With horrific living conditions, forced experimentation, mass death, and the war starting to turn in the Alliance's favour, the Nazis eventually realized they had to cover it up, with more mass death (gas chambers) and disposing of the evidence (incinerators).

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

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Originally posted by Hardware:
And leftists have never used the big lie strategy. Oh wait, what was the name of their party? National SOCIALIST party.

Hmm, I think I'm seeing a connection.

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I think you need to get your eyes checked.

Unless you think the Nazis really were leftists. Then I'd say you need to get your BRAIN checked.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Party

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Parties in various contexts have referred to themselves as National Socialist parties. Because there is no clear definition of national socialism, the term has been used to mean very different things. Since the rise of German Nazism, which called itself "National Socialism", the term has been used in Europe and North America almost exclusively by political parties with combined authoritarian, racial and nationalist views.

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Sounds more like your beloved Republican/conservative/tea-party groups to me...

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Originally posted by Riverlove:

Since your own link categorizes them as the National Socialist German Worker's Party and the democrats/leftists are busy sucking labor's dick, then yes, I see a line of comparison. Add in the communal volunteer work and the engineered lifestyle and there's an even stronger link to the neo-feudalists running the leftist movement in this country.

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Unless you want to try and re-engineer your statement on the fly.

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Get your own brain checked Kwicko. Sometimes you come out with the dumbest shit.

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
Oh, Allies. A-durr. Too much sci-fi for me.

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Originally posted by Hardware:
And leftists have never used the big lie strategy. Oh wait, what was the name of their party? National SOCIALIST party.

Hmm, I think I'm seeing a connection.

The more I get to know people the more I like my dogs.

...and he that has no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. Luke 22:36

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Why is Hitler slightly right ? The Nazis were socialists, so they weren't fascists either.

Let's start with the second part first. Some respondents confuse Nazism, a political party platform, with fascism, which is a particular structure of government. Fascism legally sanctions the persecution of a particular group within the country - political, ethnic, religious - whatever. So within Nazism there are elements of fascism, as well as militarism, capitalism, socialism etc. To tar all socialists with the national socialist brush is as absurd as citing Bill Gates and Augusto Pinochet in the same breath as examples of free market capitalism.
Economically, Hitler was well to the right of Stalin. Post-war investigations led to a number of revelations about the cosy relationship between German corporations and the Reich. No such scandals subsequently surfaced in Russia, because Stalin had totally squashed the private sector. By contrast, once in power, the Nazis achieved rearmament through deficit spending. One of our respondents has correctly pointed out that they actively discouraged demand increases because they wanted infrastructure investment. Under the Reich, corporations were largely left to govern themselves, with the incentive that if they kept prices under control, they would be rewarded with government contracts. Hardly a socialist economic agenda !
But Nazi corporate ties extended well beyond Germany. It is an extraordinarily little known fact that in 1933 a cabal of Wall Street financiers and industrialists plotted an armed coup against President Roosevelt and the US Constitutional form of government. The coup planners - all of them deeply hostile to socialism - were enthusiastic supporters of German national socialism and Italian fascism. Details of the little publicised Congressional report on the failed coup may be read in 1000 Americans:The Real Rulers of the USA by George Seldes.
Fascism, according to the American Heritage Dictionary (1983) is A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with belligerent nationalism. Italian philosopher Giovanni Gentile's entry in the Encyclopedia Italiana read: Fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power. No less an authority on fascism than Mussolini was so pleased with that definition that he later claimed credit for it.
Nevertheless, within certain US circles,the misconception remains that fascism is essentially left wing, and that the Nazis were socialists simply because of the "socialism" in their name. We wonder if respondents who insist on uncritically accepting the Nazis' cynical self-definition would be quite as eager to believe that the German Democratic Republic was democratic.

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So Kwick..."I didn't bother watching any of those..."

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
KPO:

Lol

Really?

How about YOU choose the RIGHT words then...

I mean outside what was said.

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

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I cannot abide socialists or communists. I think learning about how the Nazis treated my godparents, and then how they were treated by the communists in Poland shows that there was little difference to the common man. Both are equally reprehensible.

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