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Hypocrisy run amok
Wednesday, July 27, 2011 3:10 PM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Wednesday, July 27, 2011 3:36 PM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Wednesday, July 27, 2011 3:44 PM
Wednesday, July 27, 2011 4:14 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Wednesday, July 27, 2011 4:16 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Rappy's job here is to spend all his posting time telling us that we're not worth wasting time responding to. And then wasting all that time responding just to tell us that. Rappy's head is a nasty little feedback loop that's full of cracks.
Wednesday, July 27, 2011 4:19 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: She's an elected official who hasn't swindled or stolen anything, but has only gotten what is lawfully allowed her (or anyone) in that position.
Quote: And she's trying to end the wasteful spending, by the federal govt, across the board, where it can affect the most and do the most good, for EVERYBODY, not just her.
Quote: Have you adopted and raised 23 children ?
Quote: And also, Ms Pelosi, who is independently wealthy, has bilked far more $ out of the tax payers, and continues to do so, but that's just peachy keen w/ you, huh?
Wednesday, July 27, 2011 4:24 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Rappy's job here is to spend all his posting time telling us that we're not worth wasting time responding to. And then wasting all that time responding just to tell us that. Rappy's head is a nasty little feedback loop that's full of cracks. So, when I reply to you, I'm posting that my time isn't worth wasting here, but when I DON'T post any replies, I run away.
Wednesday, July 27, 2011 4:27 PM
Wednesday, July 27, 2011 4:38 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Kwickie Working for your pay check isn't the same thing as being on welfare. And that pretty much blows the hell out of your silly little reply, right out of the water. No need to say any more.
Thursday, July 28, 2011 10:41 AM
Quote:Bachmann has repeatedly called to abolish the GSEs, wanting them to “wind down and file for bankruptcy.” Thus, it is somewhat surprising to learn that “just a few weeks before Bachmann called for dismantling the programs,” she and her husband actually took advantage of a home loan backed by those very same entities. According to the Washington Post, the Bachmanns received the maximum loan available from either Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac to help finance a “5,200-square-foot golf course home”. http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/07/26/279676/bachmann-benefited-mortgage-lending-program/
Quote:Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) — so fond of accusing the Obama administration of foisting socialism on an unwilling America — has apparently been the recipient of about a quarter of million bucks in government handouts. ..... Bachmann's family farm received $251,973 in federal subsidies between 1995 and 2006, with the bulk of the subsidies going to dairy and corn. Both dairy and corn are heavily subsidized — or "socialized" — businesses in America (in 2005 alone, Washington spent $4.8 billion propping up corn prices) and are subject to strict government price controls. http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/1209/Antisocialist_Bachmann_got_250k_in_federal_farm_subsidies.html again, "I benefitted from it, but I'll do my best to kill it for anyone in the future". Re: Medicaid:Quote:Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., has forcefully denounced the Medicaid program... the mental health clinic run by her husband has been collecting annual Medicaid payments totaling over $137,000 for the treatment of patients since 2005, according to new figures obtained. The previously unreported payments are on top of the $24,000 in federal and state funds that Bachmann & Associates, the clinic founded by Marcus Bachmann, a clinical therapist, received in recent years under a state grant to train its employees, state records show. ..... When asked by anchor Chris Wallace on "Fox News Sunday" about the story's assertion that her husband's counseling clinic had also gotten federal and state funds, Bachmann replied that it was "one-time training money that came from the federal government. And it certainly didn't help our clinic."[If it didn't help their clinic by giving their employees free training, what DID it do?] At another point, she said, "My husband and I did not get the money," ... But state records show that Bachmann & Associates has been collecting payments under the Minnesota's Medicaid program every year for the past six years. Karen Smigielski, a spokeswoman for the state Department of Human Services, said the state's Medicaid program is funded "about 50-50" with federal and state monies. The funds to Bachmann & Associates ... are based on a "fee for service" basis, meaning the clinic was reimbursed by Medicaid for the services it provided. Smigielski added that these were not the only government funds that Bachmann & Associates has received. The clinic also participates in managed-care plans that are reimbursed under a separate state-funded Minnesota Health Care program. Another state official, Patrice Vick, communications manager for the Human Services Department, said she was puzzled by Michelle Bachmann's assertion on the broadcast that the funds under the state grant went to employees. While the grant was to train employees to help them treat chemical dependency, the money did not go directly to those being trained, she said. "It went to the clinic," Vick said. "The contract was with the clinic," Vick added later. Bachmann, a Tea Party favorite, has been a fierce critic of federal spending programs [including Medicaid] and has called for drastic cutbacks. This has especially been the case on health care... "She's giving hypocrisy a bad name," said Ron Pollock, executive director of Families USA, a consumer health care advocacy group, when asked about the Medicaid payments to Bachmann & Associates. "It's clear when it feathers her nest she's happy for Medicaid expenditures. But people that really need it — folks with disabilities and seniors — she's turning their backs on them." http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43570552/ns/politics-decision_2012/t/bachmanns-husband-got-medicaid-funds/ this case, it's not only hypocrisy, it's blatant lies. "My husband and I did not get the money" is a falt-out lie. She's also against health insurance paid for by the government, yet she's happy to RECEIVE exactly that. I never said any of what she's done isn't legal or that she's swindled or stolen anything, you're deliberately mischaracterizing what I wrote. I said her actions and her words don't jibe; she's a hypocrite. I know that'll never get into your head, you can't accept anything bad about your gods, but the fact is she's spoken AND WORKED against, and tried to dismantle, the very program from which she has benefited. That's simply fact and undisputable. Please show facts and figures of how Pelosi has "bilked" taxpayers (so you admit Bachmann has bilked taxpayers), and then show where Pelosi has spoken out AGAINST and tried to dismantle the programs from which SHE has benefited. If you can do that, she's equally hypocritcal. Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani, Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”, signing off
Quote:Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., has forcefully denounced the Medicaid program... the mental health clinic run by her husband has been collecting annual Medicaid payments totaling over $137,000 for the treatment of patients since 2005, according to new figures obtained. The previously unreported payments are on top of the $24,000 in federal and state funds that Bachmann & Associates, the clinic founded by Marcus Bachmann, a clinical therapist, received in recent years under a state grant to train its employees, state records show. ..... When asked by anchor Chris Wallace on "Fox News Sunday" about the story's assertion that her husband's counseling clinic had also gotten federal and state funds, Bachmann replied that it was "one-time training money that came from the federal government. And it certainly didn't help our clinic."[If it didn't help their clinic by giving their employees free training, what DID it do?] At another point, she said, "My husband and I did not get the money," ... But state records show that Bachmann & Associates has been collecting payments under the Minnesota's Medicaid program every year for the past six years. Karen Smigielski, a spokeswoman for the state Department of Human Services, said the state's Medicaid program is funded "about 50-50" with federal and state monies. The funds to Bachmann & Associates ... are based on a "fee for service" basis, meaning the clinic was reimbursed by Medicaid for the services it provided. Smigielski added that these were not the only government funds that Bachmann & Associates has received. The clinic also participates in managed-care plans that are reimbursed under a separate state-funded Minnesota Health Care program. Another state official, Patrice Vick, communications manager for the Human Services Department, said she was puzzled by Michelle Bachmann's assertion on the broadcast that the funds under the state grant went to employees. While the grant was to train employees to help them treat chemical dependency, the money did not go directly to those being trained, she said. "It went to the clinic," Vick said. "The contract was with the clinic," Vick added later. Bachmann, a Tea Party favorite, has been a fierce critic of federal spending programs [including Medicaid] and has called for drastic cutbacks. This has especially been the case on health care... "She's giving hypocrisy a bad name," said Ron Pollock, executive director of Families USA, a consumer health care advocacy group, when asked about the Medicaid payments to Bachmann & Associates. "It's clear when it feathers her nest she's happy for Medicaid expenditures. But people that really need it — folks with disabilities and seniors — she's turning their backs on them." http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43570552/ns/politics-decision_2012/t/bachmanns-husband-got-medicaid-funds/ this case, it's not only hypocrisy, it's blatant lies. "My husband and I did not get the money" is a falt-out lie. She's also against health insurance paid for by the government, yet she's happy to RECEIVE exactly that. I never said any of what she's done isn't legal or that she's swindled or stolen anything, you're deliberately mischaracterizing what I wrote. I said her actions and her words don't jibe; she's a hypocrite. I know that'll never get into your head, you can't accept anything bad about your gods, but the fact is she's spoken AND WORKED against, and tried to dismantle, the very program from which she has benefited. That's simply fact and undisputable. Please show facts and figures of how Pelosi has "bilked" taxpayers (so you admit Bachmann has bilked taxpayers), and then show where Pelosi has spoken out AGAINST and tried to dismantle the programs from which SHE has benefited. If you can do that, she's equally hypocritcal.
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