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It's the PAX!

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Thursday, December 29, 2011 4:48 AM

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

SUMMARY: A four-part study explores possible connections between water fluoridation and crime in America. Part A, Media-reported crime database and fluoridation, presents an observational database of violent crimes, mostly multiple shootings, and finds an unusually high percentage of them associated with water fluoridation, suggesting the existence of a “fluoride-related” category of crime. Cities having natural fluoridation, or which use silicofluorides or sodium fluoride, are shown to have substantially higher crime levels than nonfluoridated cities.
http://www.fluorideresearch.org/381/files/38111-22.pdf

Fluoride: Calcifier of the Soul (Pineal Gland)
http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/fluoride-calcifier-soul

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Thursday, December 29, 2011 4:52 AM

CANTTAKESKY

See, I would have never found stuff like this. Thanks, PN.

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Thursday, December 29, 2011 5:03 AM

BYTEMITE

Eh... Well, fluoridation does have some effect on the brain, but it bonds to the fat in your brain and lowers IQ more than anything... Most people who think there's a fluoridation conspiracy (beyond chemical and nuclear industry just looking for a way to dump the stuff on the cheap) think the point is pacification, making people more susceptible to obedience and believing the spoon fed lies.

Lowering IQ might increase a person's tendency to solve problems with violence, but I'd actually probably guess that the bigger factor here is that fluoridation measures tend to be targeted at poor areas, which correspondingly have more crime. That's one of the stupid arguments for it: "they can't afford dentists! How are they going to fight tooth decay?"

Not to say it's not a problem, because the stuff does jack for it's intended purpose (enamel recalcification) and it causes cancer and skeletal diseases and probably birth defects.

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Thursday, December 29, 2011 5:09 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

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Originally posted by canttakesky:

See, I would have never found stuff like this. Thanks, PN.

Your welcome. Thank Rense.com.

I'm just selfishly trying to survive with my family and friends.

That 2nd article was the first time I've heard that TEFLON IS FLUORIDE. Crap!

Polytetrafluoroethylene
HTTP://wikipedia.org/wiki/Polytetrafluoroethylene

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Thursday, December 29, 2011 5:35 AM

DREAMTROVE

There's no reason for doing it, so they were up to something. I think that this mapping out just shows the intended targets. I also think that it didn't work. The point was to poison the populace, but it didn't do the job because the fluoride isn't bioavailable.

I think this why they invented fracking. Fluorine gas was used in WWI+II, and they knew what it did, so they immediately began a plan:

The relationship between fluoride and teeth has been studied since the early 19th century. By 1850, investigators had established that fluoride occurs with varying concentrations in teeth, bone, and drinking water. By 1900, they had speculated that fluoride would protect against tooth decay, proposed supplementing the diet with fluoride, and observed mottled tooth enamel (now called dental fluorosis) without knowing the cause.[98]

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Totally bogus history from Wikipedia's bogus entry:

The history of water fluoridation can be divided into three periods. The first (c. 1901–1933) was research into the cause of a form of mottled tooth enamel called the Colorado brown stain. The second (c. 1933–1945) focused on the relationship between fluoride concentrations, fluorosis, and tooth decay, and established that moderate levels of fluoride prevent cavities. The third period, from 1945 on, focused on adding fluoride to community water supplies.[24]

Note the date.

Anyway, fracking does fluoridation the way it was intended, it adds bioavailable CFCs in tremendous quantity.

The original fluoridation was just a flawed plan of massive evil by people who didn't know enough chemistry. No one did at the time, but that's why it failed nonetheless.

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PN: TEFLON IS FLUORIDE.

This is the level of chemistry they were at. No, it's not. Teflon is far more toxic than fluoride, though I wouldn't recommend using either with your food or water.

Your teflon cookery is safe if it's in tact, but once it starts to chip it's a problem. I use cast iron myself.

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Thursday, December 29, 2011 5:39 AM

FREMDFIRMA

Re: Teflon.

This is why I use stainless steel cookware, cause no matter how you care for it, eventually that nonstick coating starts coming off and winding up in your food, in particulate form long before you ever even notice.

Got a few cast iron pieces too, but for most culinary applications stainless is the way to go, better heat distribution.

-F

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Thursday, December 29, 2011 5:54 AM

JONGSSTRAW

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Originally posted by piratenews:

.... with my family and friends.

You have family and friends? Illogical, illogical! That does not compute. Norman coordinate.

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Thursday, December 29, 2011 6:41 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

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Originally posted by piratenews:

.... with my family and friends.

You have family and friends? Illogical, illogical! That does not compute. Norman coordinate.

They're literally dropping like flies...because they believe fluoride is good for you.

By 'literally' I mean they drop like fainting goats.

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Thursday, December 29, 2011 6:43 AM

BYTEMITE

I just got a mental image of the scratched up teflon skillet my mom uses to make eggs. She's had that thing for as long as I can remember, it looks like someone took steel wool and a few knives to it.

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Thursday, December 29, 2011 7:49 AM

CANTTAKESKY

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
Lowering IQ might increase a person's tendency to solve problems with violence, but I'd actually probably guess that the bigger factor here is that fluoridation measures tend to be targeted at poor areas, which correspondingly have more crime. That's one of the stupid arguments for it: "they can't afford dentists! How are they going to fight tooth decay?"

Lowering IQ's is better studied for sure.

I am trying to follow up on this article.

http://www.rense.com/general78/fluo.htm

Given the source, I have to do a lot of research to see if Blaylock did indeed write this article, and if what he says is remotely true. Anyway, it makes some interesting connections.

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Thursday, December 29, 2011 8:04 AM

CANTTAKESKY

Fluoroquinolones on wikipedia:

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The CNS is an important target for fluoroquinolone-mediated neurotoxicity. Adverse event reporting in Italy by doctors showed fluoroquinolones among the top three prescribed drugs for causing adverse neurological and psychiatric effects. These neuropsychiatric effects included tremor, confusion, anxiety, insomnia, agitation, and, in severe cases, psychosis.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quinolone

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Levofloxacin can lead to depression, anxiety, restlessness, hallucinations (seeing and hearing things that aren't present), nightmares and suicidal behavior or thoughts. Users may experience paranoia to the extent that they are unable to trust and feel safe around people.

Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/39883-side-effects-levofloxacin/

Ofloxacin and cipro present similar profiles of psychiatric adverse events.

Doesn't prove anything, and doesn't prove fluorine is the psychoactive ingredient, but the correlation certainly casts suspicion.

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Thursday, December 29, 2011 9:00 AM

BYTEMITE

I'll look into this.

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Thursday, December 29, 2011 9:03 AM

CANTTAKESKY

Byte, lemme know what you find. You can email me if you need to. Thanks.

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Thursday, December 29, 2011 9:40 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Eh, I hate chemicals.

FluorINE is not the same as fluorIDE which is not the same as fluorO (eg fluoroquinolines, fluorocarbons, fluorosilicates etc.)

Fluorine (the single atom) is missing one electron to have a full outer shell. It really, really wants that extra electron, and will attempt to grab it from any other atom it's near, making it highly reactive and unstable.

Fluorine is F2... two fluorine molecules bonded together. It's in the same family as chlorine but worse ... much more reactive.

Fluoride is the negatively charged atom of fluorine. It has torn off an electron from someplace else, and happily hangs on to it, giving it a net negative charge. Being negative, it tends to clump up with things that are positively charged (elements which like to give up and electron or two) such as metals (calcium, sodium, magnesium etc.) It's naturally found in many ground-water supplies around the world, in doses far higher than the USA. If you want to study what fluorIDE does to people, rather than scratching in the muck of near-noise data, why not look in those areas? FluorIDE bonds rather permanently with calcium... hence its affinity for bones and teeth... making it less available to react with other tissues.

FluorO... prefer not to use them myself. On high heat (eg empty pan on a hot stove) creates toxic gases. In addition, the precursor to Teflon ... which is also used as a surfactant, is found in everyone's tissues...

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Perfluorooctanoic acid (PFOA), also known as C8 and perfluorooctanoate, is a synthetic, stable perfluorinated carboxylic acid and fluorosurfactant. One industrial application is as a surfactant in the emulsion polymerization of fluoropolymers. It has been used in the manufacture of such prominent consumer goods as Teflon and Gore-Tex. PFOA has been manufactured since the 1940s in industrial quantities. It is also formed by the degradation of precursors such as some fluorotelomers.

PFOA persists indefinitely in the environment. It is a toxicant and carcinogen in animals. PFOA has been detected in the blood of more than 98% of the general US population in the low and sub-parts per billion range, and levels are higher in chemical plant employees and surrounding subpopulations.

Not a good chemical, to be sure, but OTOH prolly not worse than many of the other persistent toxics we have made in industrial-strength quantities, like PCBs, phthalates etc. I avoid plastics of ALL sorts in my food preparation and storage. If it's not glass, ceramic, stainless steel or iron, it's not in my kitchen.

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Thursday, December 29, 2011 10:01 AM

BYTEMITE

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FluorIDE bonds rather permanently with calcium... hence its affinity for bones and teeth... making it less available to react with other tissues.

Problem is, FluorITE (CaF2) is not chemically the same as tooth enamel (Calcium phosphate) and you can't control exactly where it will deposit. So it's not exactly like it targets weakened areas of teeth, it's not exactly like you're adding more "tooth" and it's not exactly like you're really preventing dental caries that way.

Not to mention, I'm guessing that most of the fluoride is going to be bound up in minerals in the water. What method of action are we proposing here? Too much free fluoride and it's corrosive. I'm guessing they're expecting it to randomly precipitate out as fluorite.

>_>

Gotta doubt this whole "Fluoride treatment is good for dental health" idea on principle.

As for not binding to other tissues, according to toxicity studies in rats using about the concentrations of fluoride used for water treatment, it manages to get into the liver and brain. At higher doses, it causes skeletal fluorosis and stress fractures in effected bones. At lethal doses (which are admittedly much higher), you end up with the much needed Calcium ions in your blood bonding with the fluoride ions and have razor sharp crystal tearing through you and blocking your arteries.

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I avoid plastics of ALL sorts in my food preparation and storage. If it's not glass, ceramic, stainless steel or iron, it's not in my kitchen.

Probably wise.

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Thursday, December 29, 2011 10:33 AM

BYTEMITE

CTS:

Hmm. Those chemicals you listed I wouldn't really say appear to act like free fluoride or bind fluoride at the receptor.

The effect of fluoroquinolone AND quinolone appears to be due to the piperazine group, and competes with the GABA pathway in the brain, which might explain the behavioural and nuerological effects you describe.

Not saying fluoride can't cause neurological symptoms, like I imagine interference with the sodium ion channels used by nerves could be pretty serious, but these seem to be two different ideas here.

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Thursday, December 29, 2011 4:31 PM

FREMDFIRMA

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
I just got a mental image of the scratched up teflon skillet my mom uses to make eggs. She's had that thing for as long as I can remember, it looks like someone took steel wool and a few knives to it.

Yah, the Ex had a few like that till me and the new husband conspired to quietly dispose of them and replace them - she didn't bitch too much since neither one of us is fool enough to let her "cook" any damn thing if it can be helped and will actively chase her from the kitchen...
(FYI - that's as hilarious to watch as it sounds.)

Oh, and Re: Doc Russ Blaylock - why bother with secondhand, just follow it back to him and verify.
While I do not necessarily agree with all of this theories or conclusions, he has taken some damn long strides in addressing a lot of matters other docs don't have the guts to even discuss, so it's worth a shot.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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