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Thursday, May 17, 2012 11:38 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Thursday, May 17, 2012 12:45 PM
STORYMARK
Thursday, May 17, 2012 12:53 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Yeah, that leaflet MUST be true. And those birth announcement in the Hawaiian papers are just due to nefarious Democrat time travel! REVOLT!! God, keep 'em coming. It's a riot.
Thursday, May 17, 2012 12:57 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Thursday, May 17, 2012 1:04 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Wow. Rappy's a birther. What a shock.
Thursday, May 17, 2012 2:45 PM
M52NICKERSON
DALEK!
Thursday, May 17, 2012 5:07 PM
Quote:Originally posted by m52nickerson: President Obama's birth certificate proves they are lying, and you are the idiot. I will make this simple, Birth Certificate > promotional booklet.
Friday, May 18, 2012 1:23 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: How am I an idiot for posting the facts? S'plain that one, pweese. And if, as you say, birth cert. > promo info on Obama , then why the lie? Why claim Kenyan birth if not true?
Friday, May 18, 2012 1:40 AM
Friday, May 18, 2012 1:54 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Wow. Rappy's a birther. What a shock. How am I a 'birther' ? Back up your unsubstantiated claim, or take it back.
Friday, May 18, 2012 2:08 AM
Friday, May 18, 2012 2:16 AM
Quote:Originally posted by m52nickerson: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: How am I an idiot for posting the facts? S'plain that one, pweese. And if, as you say, birth cert. > promo info on Obama , then why the lie? Why claim Kenyan birth if not true? ...because they are not facts. It takes very little time to find Obama's US birth certificate and find out that the Kenyan one is a fake.
Friday, May 18, 2012 2:22 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: So, why was he listed as born in Kenya ? By his own publishing agency, back in 1991 ? And who kept that info for public consumption, for another 16 years ? Sounds like some pretty shoddy bio work to me, don't it ? And yet, this agency STILL lists President Obama as one of their clients. Give that hamster powered brain of yours a shot of coffee, or a 5 Hour Energy boost, and see if you can't figure this one out.
Friday, May 18, 2012 2:41 AM
Friday, May 18, 2012 2:54 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: There's 'marketing', and there's flat out lying. Folks have lost their jobs for padding their resume. This isn't much different. Being born in Kenya and being born in Hawaii is a bit more than an 'inch' worth of difference.
Friday, May 18, 2012 3:15 AM
Friday, May 18, 2012 3:25 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Friday, May 18, 2012 3:29 AM
Friday, May 18, 2012 5:29 AM
Quote: But Obama won't release his college transcripts, will he? He won't put this stuff to rest, and probably thinks it helps him, more than hurts him. He'd rather keep the veil of secrecy up and hide from the American public, which has been granted near free access to the lives of previous Presidents, but his ? He keeps hidden.
Friday, May 18, 2012 5:36 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Wow. Rappy's a birther. What a shock. "I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions
Friday, May 18, 2012 5:43 AM
BLUEHANDEDMENACE
Friday, May 18, 2012 5:57 AM
Quote:Originally posted by BLUEHANDEDMENACE: Title of this thread is actually very accurate. Someone IS lying. As usual, its Breitbart
Friday, May 18, 2012 5:58 AM
HKCAVALIER
Friday, May 18, 2012 6:03 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: It was a lie she perpetuated for 16 years. And I'm guessing Barack never, not once, ever got wind of this 'error', about his bio, from his publicist agency. The very one he continues to do business with, to this day. Occam's Razor may lead most to say it was a simple screw up. The publicist made an error. The next explanation is that Obama fed that info to the publicist himself, so it would better market him and his book. ( A variation of this is that the idea came from the publicist, and she told Obama, who was cool w/ the idea, and they both went along w/ it. ) Or, another possibility, could be that if Obama filled out his college transcripts falsely, claiming Kenyan birth, so he could be admitted as an foreign student, and possibly get a scholarship. That lie could have simply followed him to his publicist, for the reasons stated above. ( We've never seen ANY of his college transcripts. Wonder why.) The birther option - He really was born in Kenya. But Obama won't release his college transcripts, will he? He won't put this stuff to rest, and probably thinks it helps him, more than hurts him. He'd rather keep the veil of secrecy up and hide from the American public, which has been granted near free access to the lives of previous Presidents, but his ? He keeps hidden. " We're all just folk. " - Mal " AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall "The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein
Friday, May 18, 2012 6:08 AM
Quote:Wright: Obama Tried To Bribe Me To Keep Quiet in 2008 According to Edward Klein in today’s New York Post, then-Senator Barack Obama’s political campaign tried, through back channels, to bribe Rev. Jeremiah Wright not to speak during the 2008 election cycle. The price: $150,000.
Quote:Rev Wright 'Throws Barack Obama Down The Stairs' In Explosive New Audio From Fox News Insider: Sean Hannity sat down with author Ed Klein who wrote the new book “The Amateur.” It covers everything from the allegations that the Obama inner circle attempted to pay off Reverend Jeremiah Wright to reports about widespread corruption that exists within the administration.
Quote:Alleged Rev. Wright Briber Eric Whitaker Reaped Big Benefits from Obama Eric Whitaker, one of Barack Obama’s closest friends and Michelle Obama’s former colleague at the University of Chicago Medical Center, allegedly offered to bribe Jeremiah Wright $150,000 into shutting up during the 2008 presidential campaign, according to Edward Klein, author of a new book about the Obamas. Obama allegedly met with Wright ten days after giving his famous race speech and pleaded with him to be quiet and cancel his speaking engagements, but Wright refused.
Quote:Obama's Beloved Law Professor: Derrick Bell Breitbart.com has revealed that while at Harvard Law School, Barack Obama embraced the racially charged cause of professor Derrick Bell. Both Obama and Bell demanded that Harvard hire professors on the basis of race. Obama and other students rallied to Bell’s side after Bell quit teaching in an attempt to force Harvard to implement race-based hiring policies. Other archived video tapes I have reviewed reveal that Bell espouses racial ideas deeply at odds with American values--and did so, adamantly, while at Harvard Law School. The Obama-Bell connection is the latest in a pattern of Barack Obama’s associations with individuals who promoted a racially divisive America. In 2008, America learned that Obama attended, and had his children baptized, in a church run by the racist Rev. Jeremiah Wright. After the Obama campaign launched a successful existential war to have the Rev. Jeremiah Wright remain a household name only to Fox News viewers, Americans dreamed an Obama presidency would usher in a post-racial era. That never materialized. Instead, Professor Derrick Bell’s racial world view is now manifesting in the policies of the Obama administration, particularly in Eric Holder’s Justice Department. That’s why Obama’s radical associations in the past matter. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/03/08/obamas-beloved-law-professor-derrick-bell scary, right? Try this on for size:Quote:There Are Lies, Damned Lies and Andrew Breitbart From his grave, Andrew Breitbart threw one last (hopefully) stink bomb into the public square this week. It started as an effort to create another Jeremiah Wright scandal for President Obama. When that failed, it morphed into rightwing media’s latest anti-academic rant, this time targeting one of the most well respected scholars in the history of race studies. Now, it’s bad luck to speak ill of the dead, but I’ll risk it, since that’s precisely what Breitbart’s own post-humous smear hoped to do, too. Before his sudden death last week, the professional hit-job artist vowed that he had explosive, damning video that would redefine the public image of Obama. What was it? \ In 1990, Obama was president of the Harvard Law Review and spoke at a Harvard protest that demanded diversity in hiring. Specifically, those gathered were concerned about the low number of black women who were offered tenure at the law school. The late Derrick Bell, who is considered the intellectual father of critical race theory, had announced an unpaid leave of absence from his own job as an act of protest. Bell was by then a celebrity in the world of academia; he was Harvard Law’s first tenured black professor. Bell’s protest was one example of his many contributions to both defining equity and articulating how we can achieve it—equity often demands that those with privilege be willing to make sacrifices. Bell explained during that 1990 rally that his own sacrifice was “not intended to coerce my colleagues, but rather to honor my commitment to those responsible for my being here.” He continued: “To be candid, I cannot afford a year or more without my law school salary. But I cannot continue to urge students to take risks for what they believe, if I do not practice my own precepts.” He added that he held his esteemed position only because activist students had taken risks to create the conditions for his hire. Equity is a positive feedback loop. A baby-faced Obama introduced Bell before he gave that speech, saying “open your hearts and open your minds to the words of Professor Derrick Bell.” I know, you’re waiting for the controversy here, but that’s really it. Obama introduced Bell at the rally. He said nice things about a famous professor who was sacrificing his job in order to support women and honor the student activism that got him the job in the first place. ..... I spell out all of these details because they illustrate two points. One, Breitbart and his cronies have proven with this stunt—actually, re-proven—that they are deliberate and systematic liars. There is nothing secret about the Harvard protest, Obama’s speech or the WGBH footage. There never has been. All of the utterly banal details of Obama’s utterly banal remarks have been readily available for two decades and were re-visited amid the first election. But like any professional liar, Breitbart knew none of those facts mattered. All that was important was that he scream bloody murder loud enough that someone pay attention to him. That someone, of course, is Fox News, which exists primarily to amplify deliberate lies promoted online by rightwing operatives. Second, the right’s most professional hit men seem convinced—perhaps rightly—that there’s nothing so scary as a smart black man or a smart woman. With Obama’s remarks themselves proven noncontroversial, the attack has shifted to making Bell as scary as possible—in Shapiro’s words, he’s a “close associate of Jeremiah Wright.” This is a pattern with rightwing media’s anti-academic, anti-intellectual hits. The target always seems to fit a similar profile. Derrick Bell. Francis Fox-Piven. Shirley Sherrod. Heck, even Jeremiah Wright. And remember when Michelle Obama was supposed to be the modern Angela Davis? They seek not just to stir up trouble in contemporary partisan battles, but rather to undermine the credibility of a generation-old shift in the consensus over who’s ideas are valid. Racism is a negative feedback loop. “Derrick Bell was an intellectual giant in the legal academy,” explains Dorian Warren, a Columbia University scholar and Colorlines.com board member. “Bell established an entire field and genre of legal scholarship examining the undeniably racial foundations of American democracy and law. His scholarship is now the mainstream of legal education—from property and employment discrimination to constitutional law—taught in the very best law schools around the country.” That’s precisely the kind of outcome Breitbart spent his ugly, dishonest public career trying to undo. Sadly, his work goes on from the grave. http://colorlines.com/archives/2012/03/there_are_lies_damned_lies_and_andrew_breitbart.html how Jeremiah Wright seems to pop up in virtually everything. Dog with a bone. Breitbart was a scumbag...apparently his legacy lives on...
Quote:There Are Lies, Damned Lies and Andrew Breitbart From his grave, Andrew Breitbart threw one last (hopefully) stink bomb into the public square this week. It started as an effort to create another Jeremiah Wright scandal for President Obama. When that failed, it morphed into rightwing media’s latest anti-academic rant, this time targeting one of the most well respected scholars in the history of race studies. Now, it’s bad luck to speak ill of the dead, but I’ll risk it, since that’s precisely what Breitbart’s own post-humous smear hoped to do, too. Before his sudden death last week, the professional hit-job artist vowed that he had explosive, damning video that would redefine the public image of Obama. What was it? \ In 1990, Obama was president of the Harvard Law Review and spoke at a Harvard protest that demanded diversity in hiring. Specifically, those gathered were concerned about the low number of black women who were offered tenure at the law school. The late Derrick Bell, who is considered the intellectual father of critical race theory, had announced an unpaid leave of absence from his own job as an act of protest. Bell was by then a celebrity in the world of academia; he was Harvard Law’s first tenured black professor. Bell’s protest was one example of his many contributions to both defining equity and articulating how we can achieve it—equity often demands that those with privilege be willing to make sacrifices. Bell explained during that 1990 rally that his own sacrifice was “not intended to coerce my colleagues, but rather to honor my commitment to those responsible for my being here.” He continued: “To be candid, I cannot afford a year or more without my law school salary. But I cannot continue to urge students to take risks for what they believe, if I do not practice my own precepts.” He added that he held his esteemed position only because activist students had taken risks to create the conditions for his hire. Equity is a positive feedback loop. A baby-faced Obama introduced Bell before he gave that speech, saying “open your hearts and open your minds to the words of Professor Derrick Bell.” I know, you’re waiting for the controversy here, but that’s really it. Obama introduced Bell at the rally. He said nice things about a famous professor who was sacrificing his job in order to support women and honor the student activism that got him the job in the first place. ..... I spell out all of these details because they illustrate two points. One, Breitbart and his cronies have proven with this stunt—actually, re-proven—that they are deliberate and systematic liars. There is nothing secret about the Harvard protest, Obama’s speech or the WGBH footage. There never has been. All of the utterly banal details of Obama’s utterly banal remarks have been readily available for two decades and were re-visited amid the first election. But like any professional liar, Breitbart knew none of those facts mattered. All that was important was that he scream bloody murder loud enough that someone pay attention to him. That someone, of course, is Fox News, which exists primarily to amplify deliberate lies promoted online by rightwing operatives. Second, the right’s most professional hit men seem convinced—perhaps rightly—that there’s nothing so scary as a smart black man or a smart woman. With Obama’s remarks themselves proven noncontroversial, the attack has shifted to making Bell as scary as possible—in Shapiro’s words, he’s a “close associate of Jeremiah Wright.” This is a pattern with rightwing media’s anti-academic, anti-intellectual hits. The target always seems to fit a similar profile. Derrick Bell. Francis Fox-Piven. Shirley Sherrod. Heck, even Jeremiah Wright. And remember when Michelle Obama was supposed to be the modern Angela Davis? They seek not just to stir up trouble in contemporary partisan battles, but rather to undermine the credibility of a generation-old shift in the consensus over who’s ideas are valid. Racism is a negative feedback loop. “Derrick Bell was an intellectual giant in the legal academy,” explains Dorian Warren, a Columbia University scholar and Colorlines.com board member. “Bell established an entire field and genre of legal scholarship examining the undeniably racial foundations of American democracy and law. His scholarship is now the mainstream of legal education—from property and employment discrimination to constitutional law—taught in the very best law schools around the country.” That’s precisely the kind of outcome Breitbart spent his ugly, dishonest public career trying to undo. Sadly, his work goes on from the grave. http://colorlines.com/archives/2012/03/there_are_lies_damned_lies_and_andrew_breitbart.html how Jeremiah Wright seems to pop up in virtually everything. Dog with a bone. Breitbart was a scumbag...apparently his legacy lives on...
Friday, May 18, 2012 6:30 AM
Friday, May 18, 2012 6:40 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Originally posted by BLUEHANDEDMENACE: Title of this thread is actually very accurate. Someone IS lying. As usual, its Breitbart Certainly not telling the truth, anyway. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/17/obama-birthers_n_1526222.html The woman who wrote the "bio" says she got it 100% wrong, and didn't fact-check it, and that none of the info about Obama's birthplace came from him, but from her. Rappy will not accept this refutation. That's my bold prediction.
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/born-kenya-obama-literary-agent-misidentified-birthplace-1991-214423507.html So, what are the odds that a publishing agency would be THAT sloppy , for that long, over 1 particular piece of a person's bio ? Seems they got everything else accurate, but the place of birth. I wonder why that it... hmmm.
Friday, May 18, 2012 6:49 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Yeah, all Breitbart's "shocking exposes" have been debuked, but that doesn't dissuade some people from believing them...taking the bait, hook, line and sinker, as it were.
Friday, May 18, 2012 4:24 PM
Saturday, May 19, 2012 3:36 AM
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