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Voters sick and tired of health care debate

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Wednesday, July 11, 2012 9:20 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


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Thomas Dean is sick of all the congressional bickering over the health care law.

Sure, the small town doctor understands the law's technical nuances and what's at stake for the millions of people covered by President Barack Obama's biggest policy achievement.

Sure, he knows the law has its problems and that House Republicans are pushing -- for the 33rd time -- to repeal what has become known as "Obamacare," or parts of it.

But Dean, who is one of only three physicians in Wessington Springs, South Dakota, a town of roughly 1,000 people, has had just about enough of the time-consuming arguments on Capitol Hill.

It's complicated and it's easily manipulated and easily demagogued. I'm tired of the politics. ... The gridlock has hurt us for sure," Dean said as he took a break from his rounds. "We need to move forward with what we have."

Dean is not alone in his exasperation. Americans have long held entrenched positions on the Affordable Care Act. According to a CNN/ORC International poll conducted immediately after the Supreme Court upheld the law two weeks ago, 52% of those polled said they favored all or most of the law's provisions, while 47% opposed them.

Those types of numbers "have been set in stone" since the law's passage in 2010, said Mollyann Brodie, senior vice president for public opinion and survey research for the Kaiser Family Foundation.

A similar poll conducted by Kaiser just after the ruling found that 47% of those polled were in favor of the ruling, 43% were against and 10% were unsure.

"The sense of voter fatigue depends on the voter's (political) position," Brodie said. "Those in favor are tired of this ongoing debate and want opponents to drop their efforts. For Republicans and those who oppose the law, they are absolutely content to keep going."

That leaves independents, the highly coveted voting bloc that is the holy grail of election year politics. But, according to Kaiser's polling, independents are tired of the back-and-forth too, Brodie said.

"Those folks are more likely to say it's time to move on and they're tired of this," Brodie said.

"I don't think voters are paying attention to what Congress is doing right now," Bositis said. "They think Congress -- especially the House -- is a bunch of fools. These guys are like characters out of 'Saturday Night Live.' "

Voters are also not fooled about what the House vote on repealing the law is really about, Bositis said.

"This is just a campaign stunt and voters are fed up," he said. Voters know that "when these guys are campaigning they're going to say 'I voted to get rid of Obamacare.' "

At the Ballinger Memorial Hospital, a 25-bed hospital in Ballinger, Texas, the center's staff is acutely aware of the high-stakes political debate over the health care law taking place in Washington.

But with a service area of 635 square miles, and 8,500 citizens to serve -- in a state that the federal Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality recently recently ranked worst in delivering health care services -- Ballinger officials, like many rural health care providers, say they want Congress to keep them out of a high-stakes games of political chicken.

"We don't want rural to be used as a poker chip in an election game," said Ballinger administrator Lance Keilers. http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/11/politics/health-care-fatigue/index.html

A big AMEN to that! We all know it's a political ploy, so it pisses me off that they're focusing on that to the exclusion of numerous other REAL issues which are of vital importance. If they'd passed ONE vote to repeal it, fine, their point would have been made and we know they do such votes for show (like voting to revere the flag or something). But to go on and on and on like this; it's merely costing us money, they know it'll go nowhere, and I wand them to get down to brass tacks--tho' it's been said over and over that no work will get done until after the election. Boy, is our political system screwed up!

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Wednesday, July 11, 2012 12:56 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


"Voters sick and tired of health care debate"

Yet you continue to start thread after thread about it.

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Wednesday, July 11, 2012 1:29 PM

WHOZIT


You libs keep telling yourselves that, this built the "Tea Party".

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Wednesday, July 11, 2012 1:30 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


And you continue to troll thread after thread about it.

Go figure.

Birds gotta fly, fish gotta swim, trolls like Geezer gotta troll.




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Thursday, July 12, 2012 6:02 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Yup, Mike. In addition to which, I didn't list myself among those who are sick of it. Personally, I think it's an important issue--maybe THE most important for America and our economy, and as Mike said, you're just snarking, nothing more.

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Thursday, July 12, 2012 7:19 AM

CAVETROLL


Quoting Larry Correia;
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Increased Demand + Decreased Supply + Giant Layer of Bureaucracy = lower costs and better healthcare for everybody! Yay! Unicorns! Whee!




Kwindbago, hot air and angry electrons

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Thursday, July 12, 2012 11:19 AM

FREMDFIRMA



Larry is a great guy, awesome writer - but somehow in between his brain and his fingers there's some kinda disconnect which blinds him to the fact that most of what he would support is effectively Mussolinni-type fascism.
Of course, you point that out to him, he'll just throw a temper tantrum.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Italy_under_fascism
I like the guy, but I am not damn fool enough to place much confidence in the decision of someone so blind to even the obvious consequences of the stuff they spout.

Mind you, I mislike the damn current setup too, and for much the same reasons, but I fail to see how allowing some of the most immoral, rapacious organizations on the planet to have even more control while backing it with government force is any kind of good idea.

-Frem

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Friday, July 13, 2012 3:43 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:
Mind you, I mislike the damn current setup too, and for much the same reasons, but I fail to see how allowing some of the most immoral, rapacious organizations on the planet to have even more control while backing it with government force is any kind of good idea.
-Frem



Nuff Said!


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Friday, July 13, 2012 3:57 AM

BIGDAMNNOBODY


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Originally posted by Kwicko:
And you continue to troll thread after thread about it.

Go figure.

Birds gotta fly, fish gotta swim, trolls like Geezer gotta troll.



Please explain to me just what exactly this post has to do with people being sick and tired of the health care debate. Think long and hard about that before accusing someone else of trolling.

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