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After a week of telling us otherwise, WH now admits : Libya assault was terrorist attack
Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:42 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Quote: White House calls Libya assault "terrorist attack" White House Sept. 19, 2012, in Washington. (AP Photo) (CBS News) The White House called last week's deadly assault on a U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, "a terrorist attack" Thursday, but didn't clarify whether the Obama administration thought the attack was planned in advance. "It is, I think, self-evident that what happened in Benghazi was a terrorist attack," White House spokesman Jay Carney told reporters on Air Force One Thursday. "Our embassy was attacked violently and the result was four deaths of American officials. So, again, that's self evident." The White House's latest comments on the attack come as Secretary of State Hillary Clinton formed an "accountability review board" to investigate the brutal assault that killed four Americans, including U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens. Clinton named former U.S. Ambassador Thomas Pickering to chair the panel, the Reuters news agency reports. The new investigation comes amid calls from Capitol Hill for more information on the attack, and complaints that the Obama administration has not been forthright. Carney didn't clarify whether the Obama administration thought the attack was planned in advance, Reuters reports. A top U.S. counterterrorism official reportedly told lawmakers on Capitol Hill Wednesday that the assault was "opportunistic" but also a "terrorist attack."
Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:51 AM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Thursday, September 20, 2012 12:09 PM
Quote: CBS reports this morning that witnesses are saying “that there was never an anti-American protest outside of the consulate [in Benghazi, Libya]. Instead, they say, it came under planned attack. That is in direct contradiction to the administration’s account of the incident.” “What’s clear,” the CBS reporter concludes, “is that the public won’t get a detailed account of what happened until after the election.”
Thursday, September 20, 2012 12:18 PM
STORYMARK
Thursday, September 20, 2012 12:28 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Was there a time when they claimed it WASN'T an attack? "I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!" Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."
Thursday, September 20, 2012 12:48 PM
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Thursday, September 20, 2012 12:54 PM
Friday, September 28, 2012 1:08 PM
Quote: Office of the Director of National Intelligence issued a statement Friday that laid out how officials came to understand the assault that killed U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans. At the same time, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations issued a statement explaining her early descriptions of the attack. In the days immediately after the attack, the administration said it believed it was a spontaneous reaction to an anti-Islamic video that ridiculed Islam's Prophet Muhammad and ignited mob protests on U.S. embassies around the Middle East and in North Africa. Now, the administration has begun to call it a terrorist attack carried out by al-Qaida-linked militants and explain that it was a planned attack distinct from the mob protests in the region. http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/us-officials-explain-libya-attack-intelligence-17351601#.UGYr2ZjR6So
Friday, September 28, 2012 1:21 PM
Friday, September 28, 2012 2:03 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: You've yet to show a single lie by the administration. I think that word does not mean what you think it means.
Friday, September 28, 2012 2:15 PM
CHRISISALL
Friday, September 28, 2012 2:16 PM
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: Rap, who besides you gives a fuck? Every administration controls information until they can spin or release the whole story they can piece together. This was not disinfo to start a needless war. Grow up, boy.
Friday, September 28, 2012 2:21 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: I see you're still compelled to promote the fairy tale that Bush LIED to start the war w/ Iraq, huh?
Friday, September 28, 2012 2:24 PM
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: I see you're still compelled to promote the fairy tale that Bush LIED to start the war w/ Iraq, huh? I'm honestly so sick of your stupid ignorant bullshit. To quote Ahnuld, "I need a vacation." I'll be back.
Friday, September 28, 2012 2:41 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: You've yet to show a single lie by the administration. I think that word does not mean what you think it means. Ya know, sometimes " I told you so ", just doesn't quite say it. U.S. Officials Knew Libya Attacks Were Work of Al Qaeda Affiliates by Eli Lake Sep 26, 2012 4:45 AM EDT Sources say intelligence agencies knew within a day that al Qaeda affiliates were behind the attacks in Benghazi, Libya—they even knew where one of the attackers lived. Eli Lake reports. Within 24 hours of the 9-11 anniversary attack on the United States consulate in Benghazi, U.S. intelligence agencies had strong indications al Qaeda–affiliated operatives were behind the attack, and had even pinpointed the location of one of those attackers. Three separate U.S. intelligence officials who spoke to The Daily Beast said the early information was enough to show that the attack was planned and the work of al Qaeda affiliates operating in Eastern Libya. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/09/26/u-s-officials-knew-libya-attacks-were-work-of-al-qaeda-affiliates.html The word I think you're searching for is "UNCLE!".
Friday, September 28, 2012 2:43 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Ya should have taken the blue pill if you didn't want to face reality, pal.
Friday, September 28, 2012 3:15 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: ...
Friday, September 28, 2012 3:25 PM
Friday, September 28, 2012 3:42 PM
Saturday, September 29, 2012 6:30 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Kwickie, you're just childishly making shit up, simply to counter anything I say, and because you literally don't have anything but your blind love for this administration. Libyan officials said from the start they knew it wasn't 'spontaneous', and was the result of a planned attack.
Quote: The Obama administration first said this was JUST about a video, nothing else, and that everyone loves us , all over the middle East.
Quote: You're must embarrassing yourself.
Saturday, September 29, 2012 7:48 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:Extremists from groups linked to al Qaida struck the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, in a “deliberate and organized terrorist attack,” the top U.S. intelligence agency said Friday. The statement from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence appeared to have the goal of updating the public on the latest findings of the investigation into the assault. “In the immediate aftermath (of the assault), there was information that led us to assess that the attack began spontaneously following protests earlier that day at our embassy in Cairo,” spokesman Sean Turner said in the statement. “We provided that initial assessment to executive branch officials and members of Congress." In his statement, Turner said that U.S. intelligence agencies’ understanding of what happened in Benghazi, Libya’s second largest city, has evolved as they’ve collected and analyzed information on the incident. “As we learned more about the attack, we revised our initial assessment to reflect new information indicating that it was a deliberate and organized terrorist attack carried out by extremists,” he said. The statement did not quiet the political backlash. Shortly after it was issued, Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., called for the resignation of Susan Rice, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, who was the first to detail the initial account that the attack was spontaneous during appearances on Sunday morning television talk shows. Rice’s spokeswoman, Erin Pelton, responded by noting that Rice’s comments “were prefaced at every turn with a clear statement that an FBI investigation was underway” and that she was providing “the best information . . . that the administration had at the time . . . provided by the U.S. intelligence community.” Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, came to Rice's defense, saying that he was "deeply disturbed by efforts to find the politics instead of finding the facts in this debate. Everyone who cares about the four fallen Americans in Benghazi would do well to take a deep breath about what happened." http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2012/09/28/170078/intelligence-office-says-it-got.html
Saturday, September 29, 2012 4:43 PM
Saturday, September 29, 2012 5:24 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: I don't know what the FUCK you're talking about...l
Sunday, September 30, 2012 2:06 AM
Quote: US Intelligence Takes Blame for Obama Administration's 'Contentious Remarks' on Libya Consulate attack 30/09/2012 13:52:00 A top intelligence official in the United States appeared to take the blame for the Obama administration's changed narrative on the US Consulate attack in Libya, saying that the administration officials who initially claimed the attack was spontaneous, did so on the guidance of intelligence officials. The statement by Shawn Turner, spokesman for Director of National Intelligence James Clapper was released after the Obama administration experienced a tumultuous week post the attack in the Libyan city of Benghazi. Fox News quoted Turner, as saying: "In the immediate aftermath, there was information that led us to assess that the attack began spontaneously following protests earlier that day at our embassy in Cairo. "We provided that initial assessment to Executive Branch officials and members of Congress, who used that information to discuss the attack publicly and provide updates as they became available. Throughout our investigation we continued to emphasize that information gathered was preliminary and evolving," he added. Earlier, following the attack, the White House had to steadily backpedal over its initial claims that the attack was inspired by protests in Cairo over an anti-Islam film and was not pre-planned. "As we learned more about the attack, we revised our initial assessment to reflect new information indicating that it was a deliberate and organised terrorist attack carried out by extremists," Turner said. "It remains unclear if any group or person exercised overall command and control of the attack, and if extremist group leaders directed their members to participate. However, we do assess that some of those involved were linked to groups affiliated with or sympathetic to Al Qaeda," he added. http://www.tripolipost.com/articledetail.asp?c=1&i=9235
Sunday, September 30, 2012 5:01 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:Obama was soooo concerned about the welfare of our ambassador, he went to bed.
Quote:That President SUCKED, flat out, for all his incompetence. And Americans died for it.
Sunday, September 30, 2012 5:34 AM
Sunday, September 30, 2012 5:35 AM
Quote:You're actually comparing a storm, an act of nature, to a terrorist attack and murder of a US ambassador ?
Quote:You think that Bush could have turned back Katrina... by raising up his hand and demanding the hurricane not hit land ?Your delusion is... beyond all description.
Sunday, September 30, 2012 5:47 AM
Sunday, September 30, 2012 5:50 AM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: ha ha.
Sunday, September 30, 2012 12:40 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Kwickie, you're just childishly making shit up, simply to counter anything I say, and because you literally don't have anything but your blind love for this administration. Libyan officials said from the start they knew it wasn't 'spontaneous', and was the result of a planned attack. Cites? Links? Quote: The Obama administration first said this was JUST about a video, nothing else, and that everyone loves us , all over the middle East. Can you get me a quote on those claims? Some kind of cite for the claim that the Obama admin said "that everyone loves us, all over the middle East"? Or are you just "childishly making shit up" again?
Sunday, September 30, 2012 12:45 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: So, we're to believe that Obama is this guy's sock puppet ? Really? Quote: US Intelligence Takes Blame for Obama Administration's 'Contentious Remarks' on Libya Consulate attack 30/09/2012 13:52:00 A top intelligence official in the United States appeared to take the blame for the Obama administration's changed narrative on the US Consulate attack in Libya, saying that the administration officials who initially claimed the attack was spontaneous, did so on the guidance of intelligence officials. The statement by Shawn Turner, spokesman for Director of National Intelligence James Clapper was released after the Obama administration experienced a tumultuous week post the attack in the Libyan city of Benghazi. Fox News quoted Turner, as saying: "In the immediate aftermath, there was information that led us to assess that the attack began spontaneously following protests earlier that day at our embassy in Cairo. "We provided that initial assessment to Executive Branch officials and members of Congress, who used that information to discuss the attack publicly and provide updates as they became available. Throughout our investigation we continued to emphasize that information gathered was preliminary and evolving," he added. Earlier, following the attack, the White House had to steadily backpedal over its initial claims that the attack was inspired by protests in Cairo over an anti-Islam film and was not pre-planned. "As we learned more about the attack, we revised our initial assessment to reflect new information indicating that it was a deliberate and organised terrorist attack carried out by extremists," Turner said. "It remains unclear if any group or person exercised overall command and control of the attack, and if extremist group leaders directed their members to participate. However, we do assess that some of those involved were linked to groups affiliated with or sympathetic to Al Qaeda," he added. http://www.tripolipost.com/articledetail.asp?c=1&i=9235 So, we're to believe that Obama is this guy's sock puppet ? Really?
Sunday, September 30, 2012 4:14 PM
CATPIRATE
Sunday, September 30, 2012 4:31 PM
Sunday, September 30, 2012 4:39 PM
Sunday, September 30, 2012 5:31 PM
Quote:Originally posted by CATPIRATE: In Nevada after 7pm I pick up LA, SF, and Seattle AM radio clear as a bell. They continue to say it was the film that caused the killings. Now they say it should be hate speech if films are made against Islam. America is 1st amendment country backed by the 2nd. Them scum bag libs. But anyhoo, Black September a off shoot of the PLO after the Palestian Jordan civil war in 1970. They attacked the jew athletes in Munich Sept 5, 1972. Now look at September dates of terrorism. Can you put it together. 9/11 the ambassador was raped and murdered. It's what they do. The Holy Mulsims are shit birds. Attacking KFC,Pizza Hut, and Hardees is American symbols just like TWA and PAN AM. The arab world is a conspiracy and symballic world. Learn that and you can protect yourself better. Hillary said she would protect America after 9/11. Ok Stevens was her boy. Then who put that shitbird Peneta as secretary of defense. He was secretary of transportation when Value Jet crashed. Put the whole industry in jeporady for cheap flights. Said a bad airline was safe to fly. These people are no good. Their traitors. How many check points in Afghanistan do Americans and allies go through with Afghans as security and no American force there. I know cause I have been through them. That is why so many contractors and Americans die. "It's a Mad House"
Sunday, September 30, 2012 5:35 PM
Quote:Originally posted by CATPIRATE: AU, your right on as usual. The regime knew late in the game as usual. The Lebanese media came out at the same time Stevens was reported at the hospital. That he was dead and had been raped and tortured. Nobody helped him till after he was dead. The picture of him being carried to the hospital shows he is dead, his belt off, pants down to his crack with no underwear, no socks or shoes, and a stain tee shirt put on backwards.
Quote: Kinko will not see it as it is. Cause he is a liberal and is not racist which is important. But this is there guy. The fools are in over there head. Kinko likes to believe he is smart. Oh you misspelled a word, grammar, and Nikki 3 back me up I can't argue this point.
Quote: Kinko is the first college graduate of his family. I mean come on when you get a degree from Southern West Texas Plains State of the Rio Grande that's something, BOY!
Sunday, September 30, 2012 5:37 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: "The picture of him being carried to the hospital shows he is dead, his belt off, pants down to his crack with no underwear, no socks or shoes, and a stain tee shirt put on backwards." Links please.
Sunday, September 30, 2012 7:04 PM
Sunday, September 30, 2012 7:42 PM
Monday, October 1, 2012 2:02 AM
Quote:Originally posted by CATPIRATE: God you are an ignorant fuck, But hey go to BestGore.com and see the pictures. You know you how many times you misspell shit. I don't care about that because you are petty. I leave clues for you to waste your time.
Monday, October 1, 2012 11:43 AM
Tuesday, October 2, 2012 7:03 AM
Tuesday, October 2, 2012 9:32 AM
GEEZER
Keep the Shiny side up
Quote:House committee: security requests denied in Libya Despite two explosions and dozens of other security threats, U.S. officials in Washington turned down repeated pleas from American diplomats in Libya to increase security at the U.S. consulate in Benghazi where the U.S. ambassador was killed, leaders of a House committee asserted Tuesday. In a letter to Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, Chairman Darrell Issa and Rep. Jason Chaffetz of the Oversight and Government Reform Committee said their information came from "individuals with direct knowledge of events in Libya." Issa, R-Calif. and Chaffetz, R-Utah said the Sept. 11 attack in Benghazi that killed Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans was the latest in a long line of attacks on Western diplomats and officials in Libya in the months before Sept. 11. The letter listed 13 incidents, but Chaffetz said in an interview there were more than 50. Two of them involved explosive devices: a June 6 blast that blew a hole in the security perimeter. The explosion was described to the committee as "big enough for forty men to go through"; and an April 6 incident where two Libyans who were fired by a security contactor threw a small explosive device over the consulate fence. "A number of people felt helpless in pushing back" against the decision not to increase security and "were pleading with them to reconsider," Chaffetz said. He added that frustrated whistleblowers were so upset with the decision that they were anxious to speak with the committee.
Tuesday, October 2, 2012 9:52 AM
Tuesday, October 2, 2012 10:23 AM
Tuesday, October 2, 2012 10:30 AM
Tuesday, October 2, 2012 11:08 AM
Quote:The FBI has yet to set foot in Benghazi. We have been told that it is too dangerous for them to go there. But we know that's a bold-face lie. In just 3 days after the attack, CNN reporters had no problem sorting thru the rubble that is now the US consulate.
Tuesday, October 2, 2012 11:22 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:The FBI has yet to set foot in Benghazi. We have been told that it is too dangerous for them to go there. But we know that's a bold-face lie. In just 3 days after the attack, CNN reporters had no problem sorting thru the rubble that is now the US consulate. Huh. According to your post, it's not dangerous for U.S. government officials to be there. Was that how you meant that to sound?
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