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Saturday, December 15, 2012 9:12 AM

AURAPTOR

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The State Department issues a statement saying Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton suffered a concussion after fainting, and is now recovering at home.



Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, already ill with a virus, is now recovering from a concussion sustained after fainting, her office said Saturday.

Clinton "will continue to be monitored regularly by her doctors," said a statement from spokesman Philippe Reines.

"At their recommendation," Reines added, "she will continue to work from home next week, staying in regular contact with Department and other officials. She is looking forward to being back in the office soon."

In explaining her injury, Reines said: "While suffering from a stomach virus, Secretary Clinton became dehydrated and fainted, sustaining a concussion.


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2012/12/15/hillary-clinton
-concussion-state-department/1771423
/


I thought they had already tried to claim she wouldn't testify, even before they came up w/ this b.s.

Of course, this should have taken place already, even BEFORE the election, but too many in cowards in DC didn't push the issue.

"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the soul with evil." - Socrates

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Saturday, December 15, 2012 6:51 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

The Associated Press, citing unnamed aides, reported that Clinton is not expected to testify at a Thursday congressional hearing on the Benghazi attack that killed four Americans.



Sounds like she was not expected to testify, and still isn't expected to testify. Do you have any solid evidence that this is "BS" and there is no concussion, or do you just enjoy tossing out accusations as "claims" with no basis in "fact"?



Wait - we all know the answer to that already.



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"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

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Sunday, December 16, 2012 2:17 AM

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She WAS definitely expected to testify,next Thursday, before this " event ".

Secretary Clinton had been scheduled to testify on Capitol Hill Thursday about the deadly attack in Benghazi, Libya, in September that killed four Americans, including the U.S. ambassador.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/15/us/us-hillary-clinton-concussion/index.h
tml


She's the Sec of State. It's HER business to testify, as it should have been HER who appeared on those 5 Sun a.m. t.v. shows, instead of Susan Rice.

"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the soul with evil." - Socrates

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Sunday, December 16, 2012 5:26 AM

NIKI2

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Yup, Mike, we sure do. I didn't see anywhere it said she WOULDN'T testify, did you? I assume it will be put off until she is well enough; I don't see her having suffered a concussion as stopping her from testifying when she's recovered.

And oh, how sweet...a HARD-working woman gets a bug, gets dehydrated, faints and gets a concussion, and all Rap can do is sneer "conspiracy!" His blind, determined hatred is really sad; nobody else here on the left is SO determined in their hatred of anything and everything on the right. He is so consumed by his, it must leave little else for him to enjoy in his life.

I hope she feels better soonest. No surprise she didn't take care of herself, as much as she runs all over the world for the country.

Tit for tat got us where we are today. If we want to be grownups, we need to resist the ugliness. If we each did, this would be a better reflection on Firefly and a more welcome place. I will try.

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Sunday, December 16, 2012 6:07 AM

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Billary's Pretzel Moment...



This latest 2 shootings this week sure were "convenient" propaganda distrations for Hilliary's brain damage excuse to avoid testilying to Congress and going straight to jail hell.

Google "JAMESTOWN MASSACRES" -- not JONEStown CIA coolaid you flunkies!

400 years ago Native AMERICANS wiped out 350 British Communist terrorists AND THERI SCHOOL CHILDREN using ROCKS to defeat firearms, then came back 10 years later while UNARMED and butchered another 500 British terrorists and their school kids using only the Brit terrorists' own FARM TOOLS.

Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it, or die trying.


Obama genocided over 10-million black AMERICAN babies so far

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Sunday, December 16, 2012 6:11 AM

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Niki - The timing , you can't deny , is suspect.

Also, this is the woman who, after having had the Rose Law Firm papers subpoenaed for almost 2 years , suddenly 'found' them, in her own office, in the White House.

http://www.nytimes.com/1996/01/06/us/elusive-papers-of-law-firm-are-fo
und-at-white-house.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm




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Wednesday, December 19, 2012 5:45 AM

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Wednesday, December 19, 2012 6:17 AM

BYTEMITE


Hillary Clinton is pretty much pure evil, but, since this Benghazi thing is probably bogus, I suspect she's just trolling conservatives now. She'll probably skip the next hearing too out of spite.

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Wednesday, December 19, 2012 1:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Hillary Clinton is pretty much pure evil, but, since this Benghazi thing is probably bogus, I suspect she's just trolling conservatives now. She'll probably skip the next hearing too out of spite.






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Wednesday, December 19, 2012 1:33 PM

AURAPTOR

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John Bolton called it a 'diplomatic illness', or more appropriately, the Benghazi Bug.




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" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Wednesday, December 19, 2012 1:34 PM

NIKI2

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Memo to PN and his buddies: Yes, you ARE stupid! And crazy, to boot!

Tit for tat got us where we are today. If we want to be grownups, we need to resist the ugliness. If we each did, this would be a better reflection on Firefly and a more welcome place. I will try.

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Wednesday, December 19, 2012 2:09 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:

Memo to PN and his buddies: Yes, you ARE stupid! And crazy, to boot!



And you're gullible.

"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the soul with evil." - Socrates

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Wednesday, December 19, 2012 3:37 PM

HERO


Poor Hillary got a boo boo.

Hero...must be right on all of this. ALL of the rest of us are wrong. Chrisisall, 2012

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Sunday, December 30, 2012 4:07 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/30/politics/hillary-clinton-hospitalized/?h
pt=hp_t1



Probably faking that blood clot, too, right?



And no doubt HW Bush is faking being in intensive care as well...



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Sunday, December 30, 2012 5:20 PM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Probably faking that blood clot, too, right?



And no doubt HW Bush is faking being in intensive care as well...
>


The lie was that she was not as sick as they said she was. I started wondering how bad off she was last week when it was well past the normal recovery time for the flu and a concussion.
.
I don't understand the deception. We already knew how old she is and let's face it, she's been looking worse and worse for about the last year.

I hope she recovers soon. As for Bengazi I'm not sure what more she can add. Major screw up, lots of blame, nobody responsible.


H

Hero...must be right on all of this. ALL of the rest of us are wrong. Chrisisall, 2012

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Sunday, December 30, 2012 5:33 PM

SIGNYM

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Probably faking that blood clot, too, right?
Hey, I sense another Krazy Konspirasy Theory coming! Because the concussion story wasn't really Obama's feeble attempt to keep Hillary from testifying... no siree! I was a prelude to the blood clot story, which is Obama's way of torpedoing Hillary's nascent 2016 run. Yep, THAT'S it. (Just trying to keep ahead of the loony tunes here.)

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Sunday, December 30, 2012 9:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Probably faking that blood clot, too, right?
Hey, I sense another Krazy Konspirasy Theory coming! Because the concussion story wasn't really Obama's feeble attempt to keep Hillary from testifying... no siree! I was a prelude to the blood clot story, which is Obama's way of torpedoing Hillary's nascent 2016 run. Yep, THAT'S it. (Just trying to keep ahead of the loony tunes here.)



And JFK's brain is still in the National Archives.

Blood clot, 'birth certificate'...whatever it takes.

Perhaps Billary will send her 'new' spawn to testilie in her stead?


http://piratenews-tv.blogspot.com/2012/12/bill-clinton-is-sterile-chel
sea-clinton.html

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Monday, December 31, 2012 4:46 AM

AURAPTOR

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Anyone notice a pattern here ? Flu, concussion, blood clot. What next...cancer? Good grief. While I don't doubt she's a terrible wreck, health wise ( I mean, just look at her! ) this story gets more and more bizarre.

They discover this blood clot on a " follow up " visit to the doctor. Excuse me, but don't you have to first SEE a doctor, before you can then have a follow up visit ? Through all this, I don't recall at any time where she saw a doctor until the " follow up" visit. Which is weird, because most folks who suffer a concussion DO go see a doctor.( where upon there's an actual diagnosis of said trauma. )

"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the soul with evil." - Socrates

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, December 31, 2012 4:54 AM

ANTHONYT

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Hello,

I'm not sure why there's reason to doubt that Mrs. Clinton is seeing a doctor now and has seen a doctor before?

--Anthony


Note to Self:
Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term applies.)
Context: http://tinyurl.com/d6ozfej
Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps....
http://tinyurl.com/bdjgbpe
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.
Context: http://tinyurl.com/afve3r9

“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -T. S. Szasz

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Monday, December 31, 2012 4:57 AM

AURAPTOR

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When, in the past month, before this blood clot discovery, did Hillary see a doctor ?

"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the soul with evil." - Socrates

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, December 31, 2012 5:05 AM

ANTHONYT

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Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

When, in the past month, before this blood clot discovery, did Hillary see a doctor ?

"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the soul with evil." - Socrates

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "



Hello,

I don't know, Mr. Raptor. I'm not privy to her intimate life. Since you are, when was the last time she saw her gynecologist? Who condcted her last breast exam? Inquiring minds don't need to know.

Unlike you, I make the logical assumption that someone who gets very ill, misses a lot of work, and conks out unexpectedly has seen a physician.

--Anthony




Note to Self:
Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term applies.)
Context: http://tinyurl.com/d6ozfej
Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps....
http://tinyurl.com/bdjgbpe
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.
Context: http://tinyurl.com/afve3r9

“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -T. S. Szasz

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Monday, December 31, 2012 5:09 AM

AURAPTOR

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We knew of her flu, her concussion, and now her blood clot. Spare me this childish stuff about her 'intimate life'. She's the SecState, and not a private citizen.

"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the soul with evil." - Socrates

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, December 31, 2012 5:12 AM

ANTHONYT

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http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/27/politics/clinton-back-to-work/index.html

Quote:

Clinton spent the holidays with her family after working from home for the past week. Clinton's doctors, in a statement released last weekend, said they told her to cancel all work events and "rest and avoid any strenuous activity."


Hello,

You're right, Mr. Raptor. She is a public figure. I suppose if she'd seen a doctor, and someone actually cared enough to know about it, they could learn of the fact after a ten second web search.

--Anthony

Note to Self:
Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term applies.)
Context: http://tinyurl.com/d6ozfej
Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps....
http://tinyurl.com/bdjgbpe
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.
Context: http://tinyurl.com/afve3r9

“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -T. S. Szasz

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Monday, December 31, 2012 6:07 AM

AURAPTOR

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I'm guessing the statement was signed " Hillary's Doctor " , huh ?

In all of her public life, spanning back 20 years, where she's been drama free w/ regards to her health, it just seems odd to me that, all of a sudden, as the Benghazi hearings are on the schedule, she's suddenly beset with maladies, injuries and then a medical condition.


You may not think anything of it, but I sure as hell do. Could be that her conscious is weighing on her, and this is the outcome. Who knows ? We're TOLD that she's still going to testify, even before John Kerry is confirmed. I still think, at the very least, what she knows will show incredible incompetence, up and down the line, if nothing else. The media will spin it, of course, as it's already done, to give cover to Obama and his administration.

"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the soul with evil." - Socrates

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, December 31, 2012 7:02 AM

NIKI2

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Thank you, Anthony. The fact that, because it wasn't splashed all over the front pages, Rap didn't believe she'd seen a doctor, was pretty amazing. One generally DOES see a doctor when one passes out and has a concussion, doesn't one? And who, I wonder, would determine she HAD a concussion, except a doctor?

He sometimes really does approach PN in his tin-hat thinking. A statement mentioning her seeing a doctor MUST have been signed "a doctor"...the stress she's been under for the past four years at her age couldn't POSSIBLY account for all the health problems she's having, it MUST be her conscience causing it all. There simply MUST be a conspiracy here, there must, there must, 'cuz normal life just isn't possible for her, or Obama, or anyone on the left...it's all gotta be a conspiracy, all of it.

So sad. Especially when he'll go to the lengths he does to come up with some kind of theory that fits his preconception..

Tit for tat got us where we are today. If we want to be grownups, we need to resist the ugliness. If we each did, this would be a better reflection on Firefly and a more welcome place. I will try.

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Monday, December 31, 2012 7:09 AM

SIGNYM

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Yanno, rappy is willing to be crazy and PN is unable to be sane. I say, let's give our two residents a prize of some sort, leave this thread to the crazies and let it die the death it so richly deserves.

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Monday, December 31, 2012 8:08 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

We knew of her flu, her concussion, and now her blood clot. Spare me this childish stuff about her 'intimate life'. She's the SecState, and not a private citizen.




"We knew of her flu, her concussion..." - and yet somehow you failed to "know" that she'd seen a doctor for either of those conditions? Did you imagine that she self-diagnosed her concussion? Looked it up on WebMD, maybe?

And are you now taking the position that no civil servant should have any privacy at all, not even details of doctor's visits?





"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Monday, December 31, 2012 8:14 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

I'm guessing the statement was signed " Hillary's Doctor " , huh ?

In all of her public life, spanning back 20 years, where she's been drama free w/ regards to her health, it just seems odd to me that, all of a sudden, as the Benghazi hearings are on the schedule, she's suddenly beset with maladies, injuries and then a medical condition.




Tell us all, O oracle, what do you make of HW Bush's sudden decline in health? I mean, three years ago he was skydiving, fer chrissakes! And now he's suddenly and mysteriously in the hospital for some unnamed illness. What are the Bush family trying to cover up, exactly?

And remember, the last time HW was so publicly sick, he was heaving into the lap of the Japanese Prime Minister - again at a key time of economic turmoil! Coincidence? Or cover-up?

Quote:


You may not think anything of it, but I sure as hell do. Could be that her conscious is weighing on her, and this is the outcome.




What do you make of Rush Limbaugh's health issues? Conscience? Guilt? Some kind of irony in a guy losing his hearing after shouting in everyone's ears for decades, eh?







"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Monday, December 31, 2012 8:48 AM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yanno, rappy is willing to be crazy and PN is unable to be sane. I say, let's give our two residents a prize of some sort, leave this thread to the crazies and let it die the death it so richly deserves.



I guess some @ NBC are 'crazy' too, huh?

The top science reporter for NBC News raised questions Monday about Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s hospitalization, raising the possibility the blood clot causing isn’t linked to an earlier concussion.


“All we have is a statement from her office. The hospital isn’t saying anything and the statement from her [office] says that she had this blood clot that stemmed from the concussion and she’s being treated with blood-thinning drugs,” Bazell continued. “The problem is that usually when blood clots come from concussions, they can’t be treated with blood [thinners.] So either it’s not really related to the concussion and she’s got a blood clot in her leg or something, or there’s something else going on that we’re not being told. And right now, we’re just sort of seeking that clarification and hoping for the best as she’s being observed.”


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2012/12/nbc-reporter-raises-hillary-ques
tions-85611.html#ixzz2GelCMpxs



Just to show ya, it isn't just ME asking these questions and it's not FOX News , either.

There's more going on here, and Hillary's story still isn't adding up.

There's a LOT that doesn't add up w/ these folks.



"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the soul with evil." - Socrates

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, December 31, 2012 9:17 AM

JONGSSTRAW


She had this condition before, a possible embolism in her leg. They give her anti-coagulates to treat. It's not related to the concussion. People who fly a lot are more susceptible to it.

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Monday, December 31, 2012 9:27 AM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
She had this condition before, a possible embolism in her leg. They give her anti-coagulates to treat. It's not related to the concussion. People who fly a lot are more susceptible to it.



If the blood clot is unrelated to the concussion, then why is it being claimed as such ? Would make more sense to say, that in treating her, they found something else, and just stick with the facts. And the NBC reporter does have a point, as to why we're just hearing from Hillary's people, and nothing from the doctors who treated her.

"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the soul with evil." - Socrates

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, December 31, 2012 9:51 AM

JONGSSTRAW


"Dr. Sanjay Gupta, CNN chief medical correspondent, says the fact that Clinton's clot is being treated with anticoagulants may offer a clue to the clot's location.

"I think it's very unlikely this is a blood clot on top of the brain or around the brain specifically, because you just don't treat blood clots on the brain that way," Gupta said. "That would worsen the bleeding."

Gupta aslo mentioned her extensive air travel and recent inactivity as possible causes."





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Monday, December 31, 2012 10:03 AM

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So, now CNN and NBC are both on the crazy conspiracy train ?



Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Monday, December 31, 2012 10:08 AM

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Just to show ya, it isn't just ME asking these questions and it's not FOX News , either.


Hello,

You're not asking questions. You're jumping to conclusions. First her illness was invented, a timely excuse. Then she never actually saw any doctors. Until she did. Now she has a real illness or condition, but it is being treated in a way that makes you think... well, it doesn't make you think much. You're sort of just shouting "Ah ha!" every time anyone says anything about her. But even if you get an "Ah ha!" about her treatment being for something as yet undeclared, you'd be forced to admit her illness itself wasn't the timely fabrication you hoped for.

But it doesn't matter how often you are wrong. As long as you find something, somewhere that seems remotely peculiar, you're a winner.

--Anthony




Note to Self:
Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term applies.)
Context: http://tinyurl.com/d6ozfej
Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps....
http://tinyurl.com/bdjgbpe
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.
Context: http://tinyurl.com/afve3r9

“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -T. S. Szasz

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Monday, December 31, 2012 10:12 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


I adore how some will blindly follow what ever is spoon fed them, and never ask any questions, what so ever.

It's cute. Really.

"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the soul with evil." - Socrates

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, December 31, 2012 10:16 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I adore how some will blindly follow what ever is spoon fed them, and never ask any questions, what so ever.

It's cute. Really.

"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the soul with evil." - Socrates

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "



Hello,

I wish you were the skeptic you pretend to be.

--Anthony


Note to Self:
Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term applies.)
Context: http://tinyurl.com/d6ozfej
Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps....
http://tinyurl.com/bdjgbpe
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.
Context: http://tinyurl.com/afve3r9

“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -T. S. Szasz

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Monday, December 31, 2012 10:48 AM

JONGSSTRAW


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Originally posted by AURaptor:

So, now CNN and NBC are both on the crazy conspiracy train ?



You're hanging on too tight. You've lost the edge. Surrender to the zombie apocalypse.



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Monday, December 31, 2012 10:50 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!




More of a skeptic than you can possibly imagine.

But keep up w/ that tit for tat 'tude you've got going for ya. Should serve you well in 2013.

"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the soul with evil." - Socrates

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, December 31, 2012 11:06 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Yeah, Jong, I heard Gupta saying exactly that. What exactly would be the conspiracy if her office got screwed up, considering the recent concussion, and thought they were connected? Are they doctors? What would be the gain of a "conspiracy" around that??

Or, more like (but far less dramatic for Rap):
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More likely, the concussion led more indirectly to the clot. Patients recovering from such a fall often stick to a period of bed rest and immobility that can trigger a clot outside of the brain. “If there is post concussive syndrome, you have persistent headaches, dizziness, nausea, and you feel poorly, so people end up lying in bed, which is a set up for a clot developing in the leg,” says Scwamm.

Clinton apparently has a history of blood clots. She was treated for one that formed behind the right knee in 1998 while campaigning for the Senate. Her extensive travel schedule — she is the most traveled Secretary of State in U.S. history — may also put her at increased risk. Lengthy plane rides with limited mobility are known to increase the chances of clot formation, especially for those who may be predisposed to them, either due to their genetic makeup or medications they may be taking, such as oral contraceptives or hormone treatments that boost the risk of clots. http://healthland.time.com/2012/12/31/hillary-clinton-hospitalized-for
-blood-clot-how-concussions-and-clots-connect/?iid=tsmodule


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You're hanging on too tight. You've lost the edge. Surrender to the zombie apocalypse.

Yeah. That. Give it up, little man. Find another conspiracy theory to milk. This one is just making you look sillier than usual.

Tit for tat got us where we are today. If we want to be grownups, we need to resist the ugliness. If we each did, this would be a better reflection on Firefly and a more welcome place. I will try.

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Monday, December 31, 2012 11:17 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Awww Niki, did I make fun of your wonder woman, Hillary ?

Faux health conditions aside, you can't deny the timing of all this, and the report on Benghazi. And about that, 4 Americans were killed, and not a damn thing was done about it.

Why were US military leaders told to stand down ?

Navy Replaces Admiral Leading Mideast Strike Group Because of Ongoing Investigation

In an unusual move, the Navy has replaced an admiral commanding an aircraft carrier strike group while it is deployed to the Middle East. The replacement was prompted by an Inspector General’s investigation of allegations of inappropriate leadership judgment.
Rear Adm. Charles M. Gaouette, the commander of the USS John C. Stennis strike group, is being returned to the United States for temporary reassignment.
In a statement the Navy said it had approved a request made by Vice Adm. John W. Miller, the Commander of U.S. Naval Forces Central Command, to temporarily reassign Gaouette “pending the results of an investigation by the Navy Inspector General.”

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/10/navy-replaces-admiral-lea
ding-mideast-strike-group-because-of-ongoing-investigation
/

"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the soul with evil." - Socrates

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, December 31, 2012 11:23 AM

STORYMARK


Its sad seeing idiots look so hard for conspiracies everywhere.




Excuse me while I soak in all these sweet, sweet conservative tears.

"We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." -- Rick "Frothy" Santorum

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Monday, December 31, 2012 11:25 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Yeah, Mark, it's pretty sad, isn't it? Like a dog with a bone (which has already been chewed and all the marrow eaten), he'll just keep chewing and chewing, 'cuz SOMETHING has to be true...



Tit for tat got us where we are today. If we want to be grownups, we need to resist the ugliness. If we each did, this would be a better reflection on Firefly and a more welcome place. I will try.

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Monday, December 31, 2012 11:36 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



4 dead Americans, no response by the military, Navy reassigning Rear Admirals... yep. Just another typical day in the Obama administration.

Don't ask, so no one will have to tell, huh?



"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the soul with evil." - Socrates

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, December 31, 2012 3:32 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by AURaptor:

So, now CNN and NBC are both on the crazy conspiracy train ?




Well, to hear you tell it, they're both biased sources and not to be trusted.

Are you saying you mischaracterized them?



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Monday, December 31, 2012 3:37 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by AURaptor:

4 dead Americans, no response by the military, Navy reassigning Rear Admirals... yep. Just another typical day in the Obama administration.

Don't ask, so no one will have to tell, huh?




Kinda like how the right insists that nothing be done when there are 20 dead American school children, no response from the NRA, and the so-called "leadership" in the GOP calls for more guns. Just a typical brain-dead day for conservative fucktard teabaggers like Rappy.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Tuesday, January 1, 2013 7:43 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Ooops, turns out we were wrong after all:
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Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was treated with blood thinners on Monday at a New York hospital to help dissolve a blood clot in her head and doctors were confident she would make a full recovery.

Clinton was admitted to New York Presbyterian Hospital on Sunday due to the clot that was discovered during a follow-up exam related to a concussion she suffered this month.

The clot was located in the vein between the brain and and the skull behind Clinton's right ear and did not result in any stroke or neurological damage, her doctors said in a statement.

Clinton was treated with blood thinners to help dissolve the clot and would be released once the medication dose had been established, they said. http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/31/politics/hillary-clinton-hospitalized/in
dex.html?hpt=hp_t2


So I guess Rap can go back to his original conspiracy theory...I'm sure he will be heartened by the news.

Has nothing to do, of course, with the fact that things come out over time and the MSM reports what it knows (or thinks) at the time...of course not...

Tit for tat got us where we are today. If we want to be grownups, we need to resist the ugliness. If we each did, this would be a better reflection on Firefly and a more welcome place. I will try.

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Tuesday, January 1, 2013 8:05 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I'll see ya one crazy and raise ya two...

Yanno, if you want to talk about TIMING... well, during the Iran Contra investigation, Congress was busy going up the chain of command by crawling up the ass of each person involved, emerging through the mouth, and entering the ass of the next person up the ladder. They were determined to find out who had knowledge of that little illegal fiasco. They had just gotten through with Ollie North and were about to depose (head of CIA) William Casey when,... well, wouldn't ya know "he died". Of a brain tumor, no less! I guess that made him pretty permanently unavailable for questioning, eh?

What was the brain tumor made of? Lead?

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Tuesday, January 1, 2013 10:52 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


And then Reagan conveniently got Alzheimer's and couldn't remember whether he was taking a shit or eating spaghetti.

Again, VERY convenient, eh?



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Tuesday, January 1, 2013 11:14 AM

FREMDFIRMA


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
They had just gotten through with Ollie North and were about to depose (head of CIA) William Casey when,... well, wouldn't ya know "he died". Of a brain tumor, no less! I guess that made him pretty permanently unavailable for questioning, eh?


Yep, apparently he got up right in the middle of lunch, and then went kayaking for no reason and suddenly got real dead...
*eyeroll*
It wasn't that they did it, it was not even trying to hide it that pissed me off, and I *still* burn whenever anyone mentions that whole goddamn mess in Nicaruagua....

I hated North, mind you, but he had a certain "stays-bought" kind of integrity I respected, and was quite competent despite being the scum of the earth - not to mention having been all manner of clever in his testimony, leaving them chasing their tails for the most part.
Didn't make me hate him even one whit less.

-Frem

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Tuesday, January 1, 2013 12:40 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



More believable than the Hillary lies...



"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the soul with evil." - Socrates

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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