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Benghazi: A Damning Report
Thursday, December 20, 2012 4:19 AM
GEEZER
Keep the Shiny side up
Quote:A senior US security official has quit and three others are suspended after a damning report into a deadly attack on a US mission in Benghazi. The state department said diplomatic security chief Eric Boswell resigned and three other unnamed officials had been put on administrative leave. US envoy to Libya Christopher Stevens and three other officials were killed in the attack on 11 September. An internal report said "grossly inadequate" security led to the deaths. However, the report did not suggest disciplinary action be taken against any individuals. Political fallout "The Accountability Review Board identified the performance of four officials, three in the Bureau of the Diplomatic Security and one in the Bureau of Near East Asia Affairs," state department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said in a statement. "The secretary has accepted Eric Boswell's decision to resign... The other three individuals have been relieved of their current duties." US media have named one of Mr Boswell's deputies, Charlene Lamb, and Raymond Maxwell, deputy assistant secretary for the Maghreb, among those relieved of their duties. ... Benghazi report: Key findings There were "systematic failures at senior levels" within two bureaus of the state department, but no individual official ignored their duties Reliance on armed "but poorly skilled" local militiamen and contract guards was "misplaced" US personnel had "performed with courage and readiness to risk their lives to protect their colleagues in a near-impossible situation" There was "no immediate, specific" intelligence about the 11 September attack or threats to the consulate The Libyan government's response to the attack was "profoundly lacking"
Thursday, December 20, 2012 5:11 AM
BYTEMITE
Thursday, December 20, 2012 5:50 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Thursday, December 20, 2012 6:10 AM
STORYMARK
Thursday, December 20, 2012 6:28 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Much like the Bush years...
Thursday, December 20, 2012 5:18 PM
Thursday, December 20, 2012 5:40 PM
JONGSSTRAW
Friday, December 21, 2012 4:32 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Geezer: Okay. So, but for the usual "But Bush..." the Obama/Hillary/Susan Rice supporters have no comment?
Friday, December 21, 2012 6:26 AM
Friday, December 21, 2012 6:29 AM
ANTHONYT
Freedom is Important because People are Important
Quote:Yeah. I might not think this is a conspiracy, but the government really did screw up on this one.
Friday, December 21, 2012 6:31 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AnthonyT: Hello, Byte probably said it best. Quote:Yeah. I might not think this is a conspiracy, but the government really did screw up on this one. --Anthony Note to Self: Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term applies.) Context: http://tinyurl.com/d6ozfej Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps.... http://tinyurl.com/bdjgbpe Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die. Context: http://tinyurl.com/afve3r9 “The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -T. S. Szasz
Friday, December 21, 2012 10:23 AM
DREAMTROVE
Quote:Storymark Much like the Bush years...
Friday, December 21, 2012 10:30 AM
Quote:Originally posted by DREAMTROVE: Quote:Storymark Much like the Bush years... Is story confessing that Obama is pretty much just like Bush?
Friday, December 21, 2012 11:00 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Quote:Originally posted by DREAMTROVE: Quote:Storymark Much like the Bush years... Is story confessing that Obama is pretty much just like Bush? Just pointing out that the same douchebags who think the Admin needs to be brought down over 4 deaths felt there should be no accountability for 3000 deats under the previous admin.
Friday, December 21, 2012 11:11 AM
M52NICKERSON
DALEK!
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Obama's admin DID lie.
Friday, December 21, 2012 11:42 AM
Friday, December 21, 2012 11:45 AM
Quote:Originally posted by m52nickerson: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Obama's admin DID lie. More caps and it might make it true!
Saturday, December 22, 2012 7:08 PM
Sunday, December 23, 2012 12:11 PM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:Originally posted by BYTEMITE: Yeah. I might not think this is a conspiracy, but the government really did screw up on this one.
Quote:Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-UT) said today that he voted to cut funding for U.S. embassy security amid political attacks from Republicans that the Obama administration did not do enough to secure the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya that was attacked last month.Quote:O’BRIEN: Is it true that you voted to cut the funding for embassy security? CHAFFETZ: Absolutely. Look, we have to make priorities and choices in this country. We have — think about this — 15,000 contractors in Iraq. We have more than 6,000 ....And we’re talking about can we get two dozen or so people into Libya to help protect our forces? When you’re in tough economic times, you have to make difficult choices how to prioritize this. For fiscal 2013, the GOP-controlled House proposed spending $1.934 billion for the State Department’s Worldwide Security Protection program — well below the $2.15?billion requested by the Obama administration. House Republicans cut the administration’s request for embassy security funding by $128 million in fiscal 2011 and $331 million in fiscal 2012. (Negotiations with the Democrat-controlled Senate restored about $88 million of the administration’s request.) Last year, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton warned that Republicans’ proposed cuts to her department would be “detrimental to America’s national security” — a charge Republicans rejected. [GOP vice presidential nominee Paul] Ryan, [Rep. Darrell] Issa and other House Republicans voted for an amendment in 2009 to cut $1.2 billion from State operations, including funds for 300 more diplomatic security positions. Under Ryan’s budget, non-defense discretionary spending, which includes State Department funding, would be slashed nearly 20 percent in 2014, which would translate to more than $400 million in additional cuts to embassy security. More at http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/10/10/985191/chaffetz-absolutely-funding-embassy-security/] So unquestionably, yes, the government screwed up; but let's try to keep things in perspective (that's a laugh...). The GOVERNMENT screwed up; there's plenty of blame to go around on both sides. Oh, by the way, I just spotted this:Quote:Among the recommendations of a highly anticipated State Department report on preventing future failures akin to the ones leading up to the Sept. 11 attack on a diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, many share a common thread: restoring GOP cuts to State’s budget. More at http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/12/20/1366171/benghazi-review-restore-gop-cuts/ Tit for tat got us where we are today. If we want to be grownups, we need to resist the ugliness. If we each did, this would be a better reflection on Firefly and a more welcome place. I will try.
Quote:O’BRIEN: Is it true that you voted to cut the funding for embassy security? CHAFFETZ: Absolutely. Look, we have to make priorities and choices in this country. We have — think about this — 15,000 contractors in Iraq. We have more than 6,000 ....And we’re talking about can we get two dozen or so people into Libya to help protect our forces? When you’re in tough economic times, you have to make difficult choices how to prioritize this.
Quote:Among the recommendations of a highly anticipated State Department report on preventing future failures akin to the ones leading up to the Sept. 11 attack on a diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, many share a common thread: restoring GOP cuts to State’s budget. More at http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/12/20/1366171/benghazi-review-restore-gop-cuts/
Sunday, December 23, 2012 3:14 PM
FREMDFIRMA
Quote:Originally posted by DREAMTROVE: The situation in Benghazi is a symbol of the collosal fuckup that is our Libyan operation. As one of our CIA guys put it, our CIA guys were backing a group whose actual name in arabic translated as "Blacks out of Libya." Anyway, we kill 30,000+ people in Libya, not just 4. The other thing about Benghazi was the blatant lying. Very much like Bush, with the blatant lying. It's just all the suckers who punched a button for one or the other got emotionally invested in defending them, as if just because they pushed a button in a voting booth with the guys name on it that they were somehow responsible for everything that schmuck did. The powers plays us like hexbug battlebots.
Monday, December 24, 2012 3:02 PM
Monday, December 24, 2012 10:39 PM
PIRATENEWS
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