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So, Johnny Depp left enlightened, progressive France for... Tennessee ?
Saturday, February 23, 2013 4:18 AM
AURAPTOR
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Quote: Johnny Depp Left France To Avoid The Tax Man American citizenship came in handy for Johnny Depp after all. France’s new socialist president Francois Hollande promised, if elected, to increase the tax rate on rich people (those earning the equivalent of over $1.28 million USD) to 75 percent, but Johnny Depp didn’t stay around for the laws to be changed. The A-List actor, who in the past has been highly critical of American culture and has described the US as “dumb” while heaping praise on his adopted home of France, moved back here anyway well before the election. Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/326241/johnny-depp-left-france-to-avoid-the-tax-man/#gQi4mC2wawfe3rdG.99
Saturday, February 23, 2013 11:18 AM
AGENTROUKA
Saturday, February 23, 2013 3:44 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AgentRouka: At least he didn't have to head to Russia like Gerard Depard-ew.
Saturday, February 23, 2013 4:24 PM
JONGSSTRAW
Sunday, February 24, 2013 12:56 AM
MAGONSDAUGHTER
Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:18 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by AgentRouka: At least he didn't have to head to Russia like Gerard Depard-ew. I hear Russian babes are hawt.
Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:04 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Magonsdaughter: And this is newsworthy because.....?
Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:45 AM
Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:56 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AgentRouka: Unless he specifically praised tax schemes as the one afoot in France, it's not really hypocrisy. He might still approve of all those cultural differences but simply disapprove of the new French tax law enough to evade it. Where is the hypocrisy?
Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:07 AM
Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:33 AM
Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:56 AM
Monday, February 25, 2013 6:48 AM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Monday, February 25, 2013 9:46 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AgentRouka: How is the rest of it unreal? You're insinuating some kind of hypocrisy again. It's not like Depp was advocating for this sort of taxation before choosing to evade it.
Monday, February 25, 2013 10:11 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by AgentRouka: How is the rest of it unreal? You're insinuating some kind of hypocrisy again. It's not like Depp was advocating for this sort of taxation before choosing to evade it. Some critics have accused Depp of being a wanna-be European. I guess much in the same way folks noticed Madonna's on again,off again British accent. So, in some respects, that's the 'unreal' part. I never insinuated hypocrisy in the first place, so how can I be doing it again? That was you who used that word, not I.
Monday, February 25, 2013 10:24 AM
Monday, February 25, 2013 10:39 AM
Quote: Why else would you repeatedly emphasize that he approved of French culture
Monday, February 25, 2013 10:44 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Depp spoke disparagingly of the US, and moves to where? France. Quote: Why else would you repeatedly emphasize that he approved of French culture Well, he DID move there, right ? And I didn't emphasize anything. I just said France appealed to him. So much so , that he moved there. It's really not all that complicated. Depp left the US in the early 2000's, claiming he didn't want to raise his kids here. So he went to France. But the cost of adhering to his ideals was too much for even him to bear, so he left France. Where'd he end up ? Back in the USA, where he said he didn't want to raise his kids. But he didn't move back to CA. He moved to where ? TN, which has no state income taxes. Again, make of it what you will. ( But please, don't ascribe motives to me which aren't mine, or claim I said something I never did. I NEVER said thing about FRENCH culture. All my comments pertaining to that were in regards to Depp not caring for US culture. I never said 1 thing about French culture. )
Monday, February 25, 2013 10:55 AM
Monday, February 25, 2013 10:58 AM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Monday, February 25, 2013 11:08 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: If folks would merely address what I SAID, or take time to ASK me what I meant, instead of knee jerk reactions to things I never did say, there'd be a whole lot less confusion.
Monday, February 25, 2013 11:10 AM
Monday, February 25, 2013 11:11 AM
STORYMARK
Monday, February 25, 2013 11:17 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AgentRouka: I understand that you might dislike me ascribing motives to you, but you also haven't really given a solid opinion on this subject, in a thread you yourself posted, leaving a lot of room for assumptions. What about this made you think it makes an interesting post? And I'm not saying it isn't, I just want to know what you actually think of it.
Monday, February 25, 2013 11:24 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Quote:Originally posted by AgentRouka: How is the rest of it unreal? You're insinuating some kind of hypocrisy again. It's not like Depp was advocating for this sort of taxation before choosing to evade it. This kind of error happens when one tosses about a word as a weapon, without actually understanding the meaning. Granted, it seems to only happen to one particular type of person, and only one specific individual around here...
Monday, February 25, 2013 11:26 AM
Monday, February 25, 2013 11:31 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: If folks would merely address what I SAID, or take time to ASK me what I meant, instead of knee jerk reactions to things I never did say, there'd be a whole lot less confusion. You've been asked, point blank.
Quote: By the way, did you take the time to ASK Johnny Depp exactly why he wanted to move?
Monday, February 25, 2013 11:37 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AgentRouka: "Make of it what you will" regards my own opinion, which is why I asked yours. The two obviously don't have to match, but there's nothing wrong with wanting to know yours, why is that something you regard as a problem?
Quote: I wish you would just come out with saying "I think this shows the downside of this sort of tax policy" instead of going the "Isn't it interesting?"-route of just implying your opinion. You all but did, eventually, but why didn't you do it outright? It's not like it's an invalid opinion. Instead of starting an interesting discussion about the subject and your opinion on it, you left people guessing as to what you meant to express with your thread, and unsurprisingly we didn't necessarily guess right. As it happens I agree, this tax policy has utterly led to rich people fleeing France, many opting for Belgium and other countries. I don't expect it to last forever and find it to be a pretty silly political gimmick.
Monday, February 25, 2013 11:49 AM
Monday, February 25, 2013 11:59 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: If folks would merely address what I SAID, or take time to ASK me what I meant, instead of knee jerk reactions to things I never did say, there'd be a whole lot less confusion. You've been asked, point blank. No, I hadn't.
Quote: Quote: By the way, did you take the time to ASK Johnny Depp exactly why he wanted to move? My contact info for him must be out of date. What's his cell phone # ?
Monday, February 25, 2013 12:00 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AgentRouka: Do you really think stating you own opinion would have stopped people here from forming and arguing their own?
Quote: You started the thread, so you must have wanted to discuss the subject, but you didn't do much to get the ball rolling. One person very early even asked what the point of it was. Stating your own opinion would have kept things on focus, instead you were pretty vague and heavy with implications, so really it's no accident this thread was easily derailed.
Quote: I'm not saying there is no generally hostile atmosphere on this board, which also contributed, but you certainly didn't do much to prevent obfuscation.
Monday, February 25, 2013 12:03 PM
Monday, February 25, 2013 12:09 PM
Monday, February 25, 2013 12:22 PM
Monday, February 25, 2013 12:47 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: At 6 different times (that I bothered to quote) little rappy states his opinion - Depp left France due to proposed high taxes. The only thing he left out to widdle his personal scent on his opinion was to post IN MY OPINION. His opinion is clear. The fact that's it's wrong - Depp reestablished US residency in 2011 - has gone by him - as factual things which can be verified with a LEETLE bit of effort always do. That he repeatedly ascribed motivations to Depp, while bitterly complaining that others did that to him, just makes it more deliciously stupid.
Quote: "American citizenship came in handy for Johnny Depp after all. France’s new socialist president Francois Hollande promised, if elected, to increase the tax rate on rich people (those earning the equivalent of over $1.28 million USD) to 75 percent, but Johnny Depp didn’t stay around for the laws to be changed."
Quote: "US citizen, big time movie celeb, goes to France, because he claims he's not happy with US culture. But when taxes are raised in France, gee... that culture doesn't seem to be that much an issue any more."
Quote: "The thing which recently has changed, which appears to be driving many top earners from inside the borders of France, just happens to coincide w/ Depp's change of heart."
Quote: "Just a sober look at the real world consequences of socialistic views, and how the " rich " won't sit idly by and just allow their $ to be taken by the state. Be it in France, or here , in the US.
Quote: And yes, Depp's appreciation for the French way of life is fine and dandy, up until they start taking more of his $. Then it becomes 'real', and we see how his priorities change."
Quote: "Depp left the US in the early 2000's, claiming he didn't want to raise his kids here. So he went to France. But the cost of adhering to his ideals was too much for even him to bear, so he left France. Where'd he end up ? Back in the USA, where he said he didn't want to raise his kids. But he didn't move back to CA. He moved to where ? TN, which has no state income taxes."
Quote: "For one, Depp isn't the only notable high income individual to leave France in response to the high taxes which were put in by a newly elected socialist President."
Monday, February 25, 2013 12:51 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: @ Kwickie - AgentRouka asked, and I replied. Of what significance is it to this thread that anyone here has my cell phone # ? Odd question to ask, on your part.
Monday, February 25, 2013 12:56 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: It's funny. I get mocked for NOT having an opinion, as well as having one.
Monday, February 25, 2013 1:01 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: It's funny. I get mocked for NOT having an opinion, as well as having one. Yes, the one constant here is that you get mocked.
Monday, February 25, 2013 1:04 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: It's funny. I get mocked for NOT having an opinion, as well as having one. Yes, the one constant here is that you get mocked. That only shows the inanity of those who mock me, as they can't make up their mind what the hell they want.
Monday, February 25, 2013 1:05 PM
Monday, February 25, 2013 1:23 PM
Monday, February 25, 2013 2:58 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: No it doesn't. ikiki was wrong , and deserves all manner of mockery. Me? Not so much.
Monday, February 25, 2013 3:06 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Poor little rappy. You have yet to explain why Depp re-established his US residency in 2011 well BEFORE the newly proposed French taxes.
Quote:September 28: The French government today unveiled proposed corporate and individual tax measures that are to be included in the Draft Finance Law for 2013 (Loi de Finances 2013). ... Summary of individual tax proposals New income tax rate of 45%: A new individual income tax rate of 45% would be imposed on income exceeding €150,000 per “household coefficient” share. “Exceptional” tax rate of 75%: A new income tax rate would apply in 2013 (i.e., with respect to 2012 income) and in 2014 (for 2013 income) on income exceeding €1 million per person, when generated by certain activities—e.g., from employment, pension, “non-commercial” activities, business activities, excluding capital income.
Monday, February 25, 2013 3:11 PM
Tuesday, February 26, 2013 4:07 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Magonsdaughter: Seems to me that Rappy might think that moving outside of the US is downright unpatriotic. I wonder why people can't choose to live where they want, and then change their mind.
Tuesday, February 26, 2013 4:10 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: No it doesn't. ikiki was wrong , and deserves all manner of mockery. Me? Not so much. How was she wrong exactly? Was it her use of facts that threw you off?
Tuesday, February 26, 2013 6:37 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Somehow, Depp has managed to procure a time machine with money he should have used to pay taxes! He went back a year before these rates were proposed and established residency in Tennessee! That dastard. That rapscallion. How dare he travel back in time to shirk his responsibilities! "I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero "I was wrong" - Hero, 2012 Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!" Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."
Tuesday, February 26, 2013 8:13 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by Magonsdaughter: Seems to me that Rappy might think that moving outside of the US is downright unpatriotic. I wonder why people can't choose to live where they want, and then change their mind. Only, it seems what you think doesn't sync up with the point I'm making. Lots of 'wealthy' have left France, are leaving, or are considering it. And it's for one reason, more than any other. Doesn't matter if they're American or French or what ever. Has nothing to do with patriotism, for the US, or any other country.
Tuesday, February 26, 2013 12:06 PM
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