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Friday, March 22, 2013 1:05 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Ain't this music owesome?????





Wish I was 8 years old again.........

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Friday, March 22, 2013 1:11 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Ha.

I recently saw Wreck it Ralph, and there was quite the homage to 80's era video games.

Too funny.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

Resident USA Freedom Fundie

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Friday, March 22, 2013 5:29 PM

FREMDFIRMA



I myself am cheesed off that they didn't have a licensed pack-in Sugar Rush racing game coded and ready to go, I mean hell they could have used the basic code from Super Sprint if they wanted to, but nope.
How on earth could their marketing dept so totally FUMBLE a call that easy, it's money in the bank waiting to be collected!

I loved Jane Lynch's voice acting in this though, she manages to sound incredibly brutal and profane without ever once stepping over the PG line, I think R Lee Ermey would be proud, heh heh.

-F

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Friday, March 22, 2013 6:06 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Zamfir's pan flute is better.

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Sunday, March 24, 2013 2:26 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Awwwwww.....

Nobody actually listened to the best music the NES era ever had to offer.... :(



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Sunday, March 24, 2013 2:39 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Dave's Theme from Maniac Mansion:



Twilight from Shadowgate:



Final Fantasy Opening Theme:







It's hard to play a good song in guitar.... i can't imagine how these geniuses were able to make so much happen in the late 80's with so little working for them......

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Sunday, March 24, 2013 2:55 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Anyone who can agree how awesome that last song was could probably understand how pumped a 12 year old who played that game when he was only 9 years old felt when the "remix" was in 16 bit!







Even awesomeer (that's surely not a word), when the London Philharmonic did it!

I felt like such a dork when I told my friends I knew what the "elevator music" we were listening to was before the X-Games movie we were wating to watch in Chicago at the IMAX was, but I didn't give a shit... That was the most exciting part of my day, to see that an orchestra did that music!



Maybe I'd LOVE most Japanese music if I grew up there... I wouldn't know. My only experience has been secondhand from video games.....

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Sunday, March 24, 2013 4:00 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Still probably my favoriteist song from a video game done "orchestra".....

Breezy from Final Fantasy 8.....



I can play the shit out of it with my guitar, but I wish I could make the windwoods, keyboards, birds and waves crash on the side

The only thing this nearly perfect song is missing is the Angel Chords......



Anyone who hears the original compared to the otherwise superior Orchestral version who knows anything about music knows what I'm talking about....




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Sunday, March 24, 2013 7:06 PM

FREMDFIRMA



You missed one - the deliberately retro Final Fantasy IX, which I did like quite a bit, and it's original theme, Melodies of Life.

Sung here by Vocaloid Hatsune Miku.



-F

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Tuesday, March 26, 2013 10:28 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


No fair Frem....

I don't play those newfangled systems....

The only FF song with voices I ever heard was this....



No doubt, the "masses" will love this song infinitely more than what either of us have posted....




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Tuesday, March 26, 2013 6:40 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Katamari Damacy Theme: "Katamari On the Rocks"





"Que Sera Sera (A Single Star)"










"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Wednesday, March 27, 2013 7:28 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Grrrrrr Frem.... She's the one who got "Heaven is a Place on Earth" stuck in my brain for about 3 months!!!!!


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Wednesday, March 27, 2013 7:34 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Holy shit Kwick! That's first song is just way too much stuff coming at me at one time!!!!!!!!!!! The music alone was probably great, but the voices just made it a hammer to my brain!!!!!

I actually really dig that Japan/Sinatra hybrid in the second song though.... LOL... I'm sure not a single one of my friends would ever "get it" or listen to it. I'm going to send it to my bro and sis-in-law. I'm sure they'll love it. I bet they would have played it during "dinner" at their wedding along with the Fallout 3 songs :)

Thanks for sending that my way. I'll have to get the MP3. Great song. :)

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Wednesday, March 27, 2013 7:42 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


If you're really stuck on that first song Kwick, I can give you a great Final Fantasy rival (although there are no lyrics to it).

Final Fantasy IV's "Boss Theme" or what was known in the US as Final Fantasy II for SNES:



Probably my favorite song ever on a video game before I got laid :)

Forgive me Kwick (and the ladies).... I just definitely judged all video games "B.S." (before sex) much different than "A.S.". To tell you the truth... pretty much everything else changed "A.S." as well....

Haha... I remember, in fact, while playing this very game that I thought that I just wasn't interested in politics and that they'd never matter to me.

To be a stupid kid again.......... sigh....

Here's the Orchestral version of what might have been the most awesome 16-bit theme ever created!::::



I hope you enjoy it half as much as I did the first time Kwick ;)



EDIT: Or this one.....




EDITED TO ADD: LOL!!!!! A Mario Paint version of one of the greatest 8-16 bit songs ever made!!!!!




And this dude somehow gets laid 3 times more a year than I do.



Because he's awesome!!!!!


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Wednesday, March 27, 2013 7:51 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Goddamn....... The more I know, the more I can't stay away.....

I have to post the original SNES version of this song before I post what I found to be the most beautiful Orchestral version of a game I've ever heard so far.....

Final Fantasy II Overworld Theme (IV Japan):



Orchestra version (I hope there is a longer version of it!!!!!):




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Thursday, March 28, 2013 3:37 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Holy shit Kwick! That's first song is just way too much stuff coming at me at one time!!!!!!!!!!! The music alone was probably great, but the voices just made it a hammer to my brain!!!!!

I actually really dig that Japan/Sinatra hybrid in the second song though.... LOL... I'm sure not a single one of my friends would ever "get it" or listen to it. I'm going to send it to my bro and sis-in-law. I'm sure they'll love it. I bet they would have played it during "dinner" at their wedding along with the Fallout 3 songs :)

Thanks for sending that my way. I'll have to get the MP3. Great song. :)




There's something like a 4-disc soundtrack CD that they sold in Japan for that game. A buddy of mine loaned it to me some years ago, and I copied it into my iTunes, but sadly lost it all when my hard drive went tits-up a while later.

That's how I learned to back up my computer. :)



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Thursday, March 28, 2013 3:41 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Oh, and if you've never played Katamari Damacy, it's hella fun. Silly, ridiculous fun.

There are other follow-on games out there - We Love Katamari, Katamari Forever, etc., but only Katamari Damacy is that much fun for some reason. It's the gameplay, the stuff you're rolling up, the music - it all just works.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Friday, March 29, 2013 2:26 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
There's something like a 4-disc soundtrack CD that they sold in Japan for that game. A buddy of mine loaned it to me some years ago, and I copied it into my iTunes, but sadly lost it all when my hard drive went tits-up a while later.

That's how I learned to back up my computer. :)



Actually, my brother has that soundtrack. If you don't mind the prospect of "borrowing" it online, I may be able to get those back on your mp3 player. I'm sure he still has it if I asked him. He's got a TON of stuff like that. Actually, I turned him on to KPOP girls too and it drives his wife nuts when he's listening to that. :)

I wonder what's worse.... losing all your Final Fantasy tunes or losing a lot of pictures and things you wrote when a hard drive crashes. I once fragged an 80GB hard drive back in the days where 80GB cost you 100 bucks because I was stupid and placed the hard drive "bad side down" while working on my PC and it was still plugged in. That was also in my "living in my grandma's basement days" so just replacing that drive wasn't possible at the time. I had to revert to an old 10GB hard drive for over a year before I could afford a new one. If I was still capable of crying at 20 years old, I'm sure I would have cried myself to sleep that night.... :(

Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Oh, and if you've never played Katamari Damacy, it's hella fun. Silly, ridiculous fun.

There are other follow-on games out there - We Love Katamari, Katamari Forever, etc., but only Katamari Damacy is that much fun for some reason. It's the gameplay, the stuff you're rolling up, the music - it all just works.



I never even heard of KD before. What system(s) are they for?

It's a shame we're always talking about stupid political stuff Kwick. I get the feeling we would have been fast friends in my "B.S." days


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Friday, March 29, 2013 2:35 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


KD was a PS2 game. Not sure if they ever ported it to any other systems.


Yeah, I lost a ton of pix and stuff, but what really hurt was losing my music. More than 35GB of digital music I'd gathered from, well, everywhere, back when LimeWire was still alive and kicking. iTunes said if I hit "Play" and "Never Repeat", I'd have about 21 days of music if I just let it go non-stop.


I've rebuilt some of it, bit by bit, but some I doubt I'll ever recover. I bought a vinyl-to-MP3 turntable, but it's not the best sound quality. Still, it was worth it to rescue some old vinyl I hav that was never released on CD, much less on MP3. I also found an MP3 converter that takes YouTube videos and rips them to MP3 format, so that helped.

And now I keep multiple backups on external hard drives and jump drives, as well as on an old iPod.





"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Friday, March 29, 2013 3:11 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I've got an old PS2 lying around here somewhere. Maybe I'll give it a shot if I can scrounge up a few extra bucks.

Haha... 21 days. Yeah... at one point my music library was over 140GB. That is seriously crazy. It was the humorous result of downloading every single thing I could find because I was quite sure that by now "illegally" downloading music would be a thing of the past and I was just trying to make sure I "got 'em all!" before the dam closed. I never had a count like you, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if I had 6 straight months of music that I would never listen to.

Sadly, what that did was turn my mp3 player into the most nightmarish Pandora playlist if I just randomized it. Not only was there so many shitty bands I'd never listen to their Singles playing, but I also had to listen to every one of their B sides and the B sides of any decent band out there too. In that regard, you're probably better off that you were forced to start your playlist from scratch.

I totally sympathize with you on the hard to find stuff though. To this day, I can find about 99.9% of the music I want to hear without much effort, but when I think of all the un-listenable shit that is out there for easy download, it makes me sad that I can't find "Smoke wit'chu" or "Take a Walk on the Wild Side".... all three of them I later found out were just re-mixes that sampled classic rap songs made by obscure artists that have faded away since i borrowed "Thug Life 3" from my boy K-Dog back in 1999.

I haven't even listened to any new rap for probably going on 8 years, but if I heard any of those on the radio I'd be jammin' like I do whenever I hear Mowtown Philly by Boyz II Men.

That's the funny thing about getting old. I know that the songs were stupid, especially since I was a white middle class kid when I first heard them. They were more than just that though. They were part of a soundtrack to the best years of my life, and so they have a special place in my heart/mind because of that. I know that if they were made today I'd probably get a head ache listening to them and think it was some of the stupidest shit ever made.






Haha! I still can't find Smoke Wit Chu, but I found Walk on the Wild Side (Children of the Ghetto and Mac 10)!



Unless you're 19 years old, listening with bass speakers that rock the seat you're sitting in, smoking a blunt and driving around with a couple of teenage honeys, I seriously doubt you'll ever think this song is as great as I do.

Oh... and I just thought I'd add that this must have been the "MTV" version (assuming it aired anywhere outside of BET. They never said "homie" in the real version. "You got your health Nigga, you got your strength.".... It does sound kind of silly with the whole "homie" the clown thing in this version. Would love to find the real version somewhere.

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Friday, March 29, 2013 4:34 AM

MAL4PREZ


Check the music at 3:20. Though it's also worthwhile to watch the whole thing, for the brilliance of the player.



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Friday, March 29, 2013 5:10 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:


Sadly, what that did was turn my mp3 player into the most nightmarish Pandora playlist if I just randomized it. Not only was there so many shitty bands I'd never listen to their Singles playing, but I also had to listen to every one of their B sides and the B sides of any decent band out there too. In that regard, you're probably better off that you were forced to start your playlist from scratch.




Yeah, there was that... I had to start making playlists just so I could semi-group things together that wouldn't make me jump up and run across the warehouse when they came on in the middle of the work day!

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I totally sympathize with you on the hard to find stuff though. To this day, I can find about 99.9% of the music I want to hear without much effort, but when I think of all the un-listenable shit that is out there for easy download, it makes me sad that I can't find "Smoke wit'chu" or "Take a Walk on the Wild Side".... all three of them I later found out were just re-mixes that sampled classic rap songs made by obscure artists that have faded away since i borrowed "Thug Life 3" from my boy K-Dog back in 1999.



*IF* you can find a video of it, this might help:

http://www.mediaconverter.org/

It's the site that rips video to MP3. You lose the video, of course, but you get the song in an iTunes-friendly format.

Also, you might try Spotify. (I just checked, and "Can I Smoke Wit Chu" by Krazie Bone & Bone Thugs 'n' Harmony is on there, "N***a" and all.

Spotify is my new home for music. There's some bands and artists that are unrepresented or under-represented; Pink Floyd - none of the Roger Waters-era stuff is available, but all of his own solo stuff is. Why? Led Zeppelin - nada. Rolling Stones? Plenty. Beatles? Nope. King Crimson? Nearly zilch. Robert Fripp & The League of Gentlemen? Fuhgeddabouddit.

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I haven't even listened to any new rap for probably going on 8 years, but if I heard any of those on the radio I'd be jammin' like I do whenever I hear Mowtown Philly by Boyz II Men.



I'd suggest Michael Franti & Spearhead. Think "rap dragged through the back alleys of Bob Marley's Jamaica" and you're pretty close. For the most part, I don't much care for rap OR reggae, but somehow he puts the two together in a way that I can't resist. There are a tiny handful of artists out there about whom I can say, "I don't love every song they do, but I've yet to hear one I really hate." Franti is on that short list, along with Mike Doughty (used to be with Soul Coughing) and a very few others.

Oh, and Mike Doughty kind of "white guy" raps, too. He's more a performance artist/beat poet kind of guy. He actually "duets" with John Denver (via sampling) on his latest release, "Sunshine", and it sounds surprisingly better than you'd expect. "For real? For real, for real."

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That's the funny thing about getting old. I know that the songs were stupid, especially since I was a white middle class kid when I first heard them. They were more than just that though. They were part of a soundtrack to the best years of my life, and so they have a special place in my heart/mind because of that. I know that if they were made today I'd probably get a head ache listening to them and think it was some of the stupidest shit ever made.




Yup. There are songs today that have the ability to *instantly* transport me back in time - sights, sounds, smells, voices, the people around me - all of it comes starkly into view in my mind's eye just from hearing a few notes of a certain song. Every song I ever loved has a place in my memory, and my memories have a place in those songs. And through music, I can visit any place and time in my life, because all of those places and times have a soundtrack.

"Sukiyaki" by Kyu Sakamoto? There I am by the pool at the NCO club in Taipei City, Taiwan. I'm 3 or 4 years old, and the song is coming through a tiny, tinny transistor radio on a table under an umbrella. The weather is hot and humid, the sun is beating down, but I've just learned to dogpaddle, and everything's going to be all right because there are no air raid drills today. It's 1966.

"Claire" by Gilbert O'Sullivan? Boom - I'm in Pacific Grove, California, just outside Monterey. We're close to the beach, but I've got a high fever and can't go with my brothers and sister. The song is on in the kitchen, I'm having nightmares from the fever, but the song brings me out of it and lets me know my mom is there, and everything's going to be all right. It's 1973.

All of my life, there are these moments, these snapshots and soundbites in time. When important things happen in my life, my mind tends to file away the music in the background, or associate the popular song of the day with those events. It's how my mind catalogs events, it seems.

Nobody else will ever feel the sense of elation and just jaw-dropping awe I experienced the first time I put the first Van Halen cassette in the tape deck of my Opel GT and heard "Eruption" for the first time. A friend had cued the song up on the cassette, then given it to me with the ominous warning "Listen to this. Soon." Every single thing I thought I knew about music changed instantly. Nobody had ever sounded like that before, and I was already heavily into Hendrix, Sabbath, Judas Priest, Scorpions, Queen, Talking Heads, and Elvis Costello by then. "Eruption" changed rock music and changed the way the guitar is played, all in one single little instrumental song that lasted less than two minutes. The musical world was reshaped in a minute and forty-two seconds. It was 1978.

And so it goes...

"Smells Like Teen Spirit" found me in a new town, having just moved to Austin a month before. Coming into a new city and stumbling into the explosion of grunge music felt like kismet. Nearing 30, I was sure music had lost its ability to surprise or enthrall me. Boy, was I ever wrong about that.

Now, if I ever get bored with the state of current music, I just go back and explore more deeply the various eras I either wasn't aware of, was too late for, or was only dimly aware of at the time. I avoided disco in the 70s because it was just so plastic, so commercial, and so freaking pervasive; it was everywhere, and one could not escape. Even KISS and the Stones were making disco albums, for fuck's sake! But now I can go back and enjoy some of it, in small doses, because it takes me back to the good times I had back then. I branch into funk, explore outlaw country, dig deeper into blues, and even dabble in hair metal, the dreck that made me walk away from heavy metal in the early 80s...

And so it goes.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Friday, March 29, 2013 6:12 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by MAL4PREZ:
Check the music at 3:20. Though it's also worthwhile to watch the whole thing, for the brilliance of the player.





HAHA! 3:20....

What a cool "Doom Mix!"

Don't remind me how it makes me forget that I used to be bad-ass and now I largely rely on V.A.T.S. in Fallout games!!!

How far the mighty have fallen... sigh.......

I was one of the originals who had so little memory (2MB) on their computer that they had to hit shift F8 to get the computer to bypass windows only to be able to play DOOM 1 without sound...........




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Friday, March 29, 2013 6:39 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Forgive my lack of your posts here.... Hopefully you can figure them out Kwick :)

Hehe.... warehouse-shmerhouse... I got skewered one night at a Hold'em game because "Waiting for a Star to Fall" came on. Fuck them... I actually liked that song and weeded it out of the rest of the drudge, but not exactly the type of song you want coming after "Shorty Wanna Be a Thug" by Tupac. Fuck what they say... I bet Tupac liked that song.



Thanks for the conversion link Kwick, but I've been doing this stuff since back before Napster. If it's out there, I'll find it and make it work on whatever system I want to play it on. There are a billion different versions of "smoke with you", many will be Twista versions, but this actually had a full beat and hook just like MJ's '79 Rock with you. It even had a guy singing "Smoke With You" with MJ's voice and altered lyrics to the chorus JUST LIKE MJ. Had it not been such a popular song the year I was born and had Twista not made a "remake" it would probably be much easier to find, but every google search shows only 2 versions of it and neither one are it.

As far as the PF, RW, LZ, RS, Beatlz stuff you're talking about, I might be able to actually help you. If you rely on only YouTube stuff these days, you're basically screwed with about 1/2 of the artists. Sadly, the 1/2 of the artists you're legitimately screwed on I agree with. They're the ones who didn't sell their souls to Ford for rights to their music.

Is it inconvenient to us????

Sure.....

You've never watched a single "Doors" song on a Chevy or Horny Goat Weed commercial to this day though, have you?

I stopped listening to U2 when their "newest" video at the time was an Ode to Target stores. Fuck U2.




I appreciate your views on new music Kwick, but please show a few YouTube examples. I'm much more visceral when it comes to music than in any other aspect of my life.



Hehe... I don't even know most of the artists you were talking about with your personal views of "memories". I'm not laughing at them. I'm encouraging you to embrace them. If I don't know them (when I'm likely older than you.... or not...) whatever we listened to is surely and end of a generation.....


Goddammnit Kwick....

You're every inch as deep as I thought I was. I could, and very-well might spend a month explaining how much I love the songs that influenced or even changed my own life.

I'm just going to end this post with a much equally confusing song I love, by a much further pained genius....




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Friday, March 29, 2013 8:58 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Oh, hell - the stuff that latched onto my memories is just pure cheese, a lot of it.


Really, if you've never heard "Sukiyaki" or "Clair", you're in for an ear-shattering helping of pure schmaltz.

They're stuck in my head, forever, and I know fully how cheesy they are. But they're mine; they're my guilty pleasures.






Newer stuff:

Michael Franti & Spearhead: Yell Fire! - "Like Peter Tosh said: LEGALIZE IT!"





One of his more peppy and upbeat numbers: Sound of Sunshine




Something more gangsta and political: Oh My God




At his most incendiary: Bomb the World





Mike Doughty:

Sunshine





His antiwar song, "Fort Hood", blending his lyrics with the chorus of "Let the Sunshine In" from "Hair"



"My vote's a bet in a football pool; five on the red, six on the blue. Wake up, fool, there's no time for a shouting match. I smell blood and there's no blood around, blanked out eyes and a blanked-out sound, I see 'em coming back, motionless in an airport lounge."


"Put It Down" - just beat poetry, stream-of-consciousness stuff.





His old band, Soul Coughing:

"Screenwriter's Blues", sampling the keyboard riff from The Who's "Eminence Front" behind a beat/film-noir narrative of life in LA.




"Is Chicago, Is Not Chicago"



"A man drives a plane
into the Chrysler Building."

That came out in '93 or so, before driving planes into buildings was really fashionable...

Soul Coughing described their music as "deep slacker jazz", but I always called it cocaine jazz, because it sounded like you really needed a lot of coke to keep up with where their heads were at.


"Sugar Free Jazz"





That Soul Coughing stuff's all 20 years old or so now - they broke up by '98 or '99. But it's still got a place in my heart.








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Friday, March 29, 2013 9:25 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


By the way, Bowie's latest album is getting really good reviews. Apparently he's not done challenging our image of him just yet. He's 66 years old this year, I believe.


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Friday, March 29, 2013 2:29 PM

MAL4PREZ


Looooove Soul Coughing, and Screen Writer's Blues is my fave.

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Friday, March 29, 2013 3:01 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by MAL4PREZ:
Looooove Soul Coughing, and Screen Writer's Blues is my fave.




You really should give some of his solo stuff a listen. It's not Soul Coughing (and he refuses to talk about that band or perform any of the music they made), but it's good, in a different vein. More songwriterish.



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Sunday, March 31, 2013 3:29 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Haha Kwick...

I take back that I was older than you after this post. It wouldn't surprise me if my dad has a Gilbert O'Sullivan album in pristine condition. That Suikaki song you posted first sounds like 40 percent of the America songs my dad has on his mp3 player lol....

I really like "Fire". Kind of a "Rage Against the Machine" anthem as sung by Eddie Grant! This would have been on any Rage/Sublime mix cd I burned for my car in my late teens/early 20s. Sound of Sunshine definitely shows his range in contrast. It's like a Reggae cousin of Shiny Happy People, and that's not a bad thing. Oh My God reminds me of some of my favorite mellow-political Tupac songs like I Ain't Mad at 'Cha and Changes. "Bomb the World" makes me wish I still had an amp and two 12" speakers in my trunk.


Mike Doughty.... when he started the lyrics I had to admit I was surprised. For a guy who looks like "Bubbles" from "Trailer Park Boys" (an awesome movie and Canadian TV show if you've never seen it), I would never have expected what I heard. I'll have to listen more to his stuff... It's the type of music I think could grow on me if I get a stereo installed in my beat up car and really give it a listen on long rides. I'll have to ask my sis-in-law about it. If I remember right, Soul Coughing is one of the bands she liked that I had heard of but never listened to.


I knew I heard of them before... They broke up right around when I graduated High School. I'm kind of surprised that they never got any play on Chicago's Q101 Alternative station. They might not have been as prominant as Pearl Jam or Nirvana at the time, but that station played anything from Fiona Apple to Rage to REM to NIN to Blink 182 to Tool to Counting Crows. Actually to call the station "Alternative Rock" as they did was a bit of a misnomer. A better description of mid-90's to mid-2000's would be "Kiss FM for Whites, by Whites"......

I'm actually kind of pissed that I never heard any Soul Coughing on that station now. All of the bands I mentioned and tons more they played I liked, but I think Soul Coughing would have fit right in. I wonder why they were passed up. Had my parents banned MTV in my house or if I had an older brother or cousin that was a bad influence I'm sure I would have been a fan.

I'll have to check out Bowie's new shit. As far as I know, even at 66 he's never put out a Christmas album yet, so he's still relevant. I actually had a conversation with an older woman I work with who was talking about Rod Stewart a few weeks back. I guess whatever she was watching he was talking about Christmas Albums. I said, well anyone who puts one out has just ended their career. She laughed and said that Rod had said in the past he'd never do one but he just did. I wonder if we'll ever hear a "Rolling Stones Christmas"?



Anyways... thanks for the jams. I admit that I'm way too young to be so close minded about music like I am now, especially since I've listened to the stuff I like so much that it doesn't really evoke any real emotions like it did when I first listened to them. There are only a few of my old favorites that I can still listen to and feel anything at all. It's not that they aren't great songs still, but it just speaks more to what I am now. I really don't feel all that much anymore with these 4' concrete walls I've built around this ol' heart of mine.





At work last night, I actually heard a song that kind of hooked me like a snare on a fish a week or two before. I couldn't make out any of the words the last few times I heard it in the store, but last night I was closer to one of the speakers and could make out enough of the words to at least do a Google search to find it.

To most people now, I'm sure it's old news, but I'm a guy who doesn't listen to much radio since I had to remove the stereo in my car and I don't have cable TV... It was completely new to me. Not only did this song come out in late 2012 and I'm only hearing it now...... but REALLY?????? I'm going to have a song by Taylor Swift on my mp3 player tomorrow!!!

I Knew You Were Trouble - Taylor Swift



I don't know what it is about this song I love. Sure, it's different, but that doesn't always make a great song. I'm just glad that I really love the words to the song after having heard it. The first one or two times I heard it at work the "sonic" qualities that I could barely hear over the "hums" in the store REALLY made me want to find out who sung it so I could hear it. Now that I've listened to it about 10 times today I'm a believer. I won't say I'm a fan of Taylor Swift and her career so far since her other stuff isn't my thing, but if she makes more music of this caliber I'm all in.

I think what really gets me about the lyrics of the song is that it speaks to my duplicity so perfectly. The most addictive relationships I was in were with women who I could sing this song about without adding or removing any words. Pretty much all of the rest of the relationships I've been in, I was the subject matter of the song. It makes me take a moment to step back and realize that I've never actually felt anything that resembles "real..... mutual" love.

Somehow I've found myself in the position of having 100% "hand" or being 100% "handled"... The only middle ground I've ever had was when a girl was manipulating me, or I was manipulating a girl that deserved much better.

All the while, as unfulfilling as either side is in finding another human being to be your mutual corner-stone in life, there's a lot to say about how the very different but equally potent temporary euphoria you can experience during such a relationship and even from the emotions that can linger long after such a union is severed.

One of my favorite songs ever.....


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Sunday, March 31, 2013 4:52 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Glad you liked the tunes.

I grew up in a small town with only one "rock" station, and you couldn't even call it that. It was pure top 40, and they rarely played any but the top 20 of those! Growing up in the disco era was a challenge.

I got burned out on Led Zeppelin and Deep Purple at a pretty early age, because if anyone had real rock, that's what we'd listen to as much as we could. I can go the whole rest of my life without ever again hearing "Born to be Wild" or "Free Bird", thank you very much.

New Wave hit me like a ton of bricks, and I was hooked. Punk had already made me aware of some new stuff, and the idea that there were other bands out there trying to find a new sound and a new way of making music. Queen rocked me, Bowie challenged me, but Talking Heads freed me, I think. Well, them and Elvis Costello.

It tends to bug me when I hear anyone just blatantly dismiss an entire genre of music. (You haven't; just pointing it out in general that it bugs me when others do it) I've always said if you immerse me in a musical style, I'll find songs in it to love, be it country, reggae, hip-hop, trance, or what have you. Hell, I'm even starting to get into jazz lately. My brain tries to work out patterns, and tends to see them in most things, so jazz is becoming more fascinating to me as I try to find the patterns. It hit me watching "Homeland", and noting how Carrie is seeking to make order out of the mess in her mind, and how she likes jazz because it challenges her to make order of its seemingly random flow.

Playing SongPop on facebook, the Jazz playlist has become my secret weapon. I can generally tell who it is within two seconds or less just by hearing their style and sound.



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"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Sunday, March 31, 2013 5:01 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Seriously Kwick, I'm glad you posted. If we're total bastards to each other elsewhere, let's be like friends in this thread.

Aside:..... It's even a "hidden" thread because of the title lol.....

I didn't have limited access as far as TV or airwaves were concerned. I had a split decision with Mom and Dad and the courts decided with Mom so when she banned us from watching The Simpsons and Married with Children my dad knew better than to let us watch it because we were stupid kids with big mouths. No MTV for us either.....

I'm only 33 and if I have to hear "Stairway" one more time I will choke somebody... lol. I know what you're talking about. Now I understand what the Goo Goo Dolls said about "a tired song keeps playing on a tired radio". Really... F the Goo Goo Dolls besides "Name" at this point too. (I'm still not burnt out on that song).

Being able to embrace any type of music is great. I was once capable of that to a vast degree. I hate that I'm so closed minded now. I was anywhere from hating to much more than moderatly liking the videos you posted and I'm sure that some of them would just become some of my regular playlists after I really listened to them.

I mentioned with the Taylor Swift song that I didn't like Country. For the most part that's true, but I can think of one song at the moment I loved. It was something my step-dad had on a tape in his old Chevy S-10.

Don Williams - Got a Good Fire Goin'



This thread is good for me. Thanks for helping me keep my mind open Kwick. Most of my mp3 collection is getting moldy.

Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Glad you liked the tunes.

I grew up in a small town with only one "rock" station, and you couldn't even call it that. It was pure top 40, and they rarely played any but the top 20 of those! Growing up in the disco era was a challenge.

I got burned out on Led Zeppelin and Deep Purple at a pretty early age, because if anyone had real rock, that's what we'd listen to as much as we could. I can go the whole rest of my life without ever again hearing "Born to be Wild" or "Free Bird", thank you very much.

New Wave hit me like a ton of bricks, and I was hooked. Punk had already made me aware of some new stuff, and the idea that there were other bands out there trying to find a new sound and a new way of making music. Queen rocked me, Bowie challenged me, but Talking Heads freed me, I think. Well, them and Elvis Costello.

It tends to bug me when I hear anyone just blatantly dismiss an entire genre of music. (You haven't; just pointing it out in general that it bugs me when others do it) I've always said if you immerse me in a musical style, I'll find songs in it to love, be it country, reggae, hip-hop, trance, or what have you. Hell, I'm even starting to get into jazz lately. My brain tries to work out patterns, and tends to see them in most things, so jazz is becoming more fascinating to me as I try to find the patterns. It hit me watching "Homeland", and noting how Carrie is seeking to make order out of the mess in her mind, and how she likes jazz because it challenges her to make order of its seemingly random flow.

Playing SongPop on facebook, the Jazz playlist has become my secret weapon. I can generally tell who it is within two seconds or less just by hearing their style and sound.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."




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