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Regarding how we deal with rape...

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Friday, April 26, 2013 8:25 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


We need to change it. A few examples:
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Policy Says Women Who Report Domestic Violence Can Be Evicted

Norristown, PA's “three strikes” policy is unbelievable, but, as one abuse victim found out the hard way, all too real. The policy states that if the police are called to a residence for “disorderly behavior” three times, the residents can be evicted, as landlords and tenants are penalized for these police responses. The horrifying twist to this policy is that this includes punishing victims of domestic violence.

Lakisha Briggs, a resident of this town and a victim of domestic abuse, was a victim of this disgusting policy. Afraid of losing her home, Briggs was forced into silence and did not report the violence she suffered at the hands of her now ex-boyfriend – even when he abused her with a brick and stabbed her in the neck with a knife. However, other people called the police during these instances, who threatened her with eviction over the incidences, even though she was the one who was the victim of these crimes.

Luckily, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and ACLU of Pennsylvania got involved, and, even though the city had threatened Briggs with eviction, they did not carry out said threats, and agreed to repeal the ordinance. However, they still quietly passed one that is virtually identical. Yesterday, the ACLU, ACLU of Pennsylvania, and Pepper Hamilton law firm filed a Federal lawsuit on behalf of Lakisha Briggs.

Though cities across the nation have similar laws to the one in Norristown, they violate the First Amendment right to petition the government, which includes calling the police. They also violate the Violence Against Women Act, which protects abuse victims from eviction. Further, it violates the Fair Housing Act, which prohibits discrimination based upon sex.

These laws, often called “crime ordinances” or “nuisance ordinances” are dangerous to women. They really show what a misogynist, “blame the victim” culture we live in, and they scare abuse victims into silence. No matter what things say on paper, we still live in a rape culture, in a culture of abuse and disrespect and discrimination against women, and laws like this only make women become afraid to speak up. Further, people who say that the women should leave these situations are simply deluded. Abuse is often the after-product of control, and the women in these abusive situations are likely controlled in other ways- namely financially. When this is the case, leaving is often not an option without help, and laws like these ordinances scare victims into silence, perpetuating a vicious cycle of fear and abuse, often costing them their very lives. Shame on the people who make and support these laws. You have blood on your hands. http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/04/26/dangerously-stupid-policy-says
-women-who-report-domestic-violence-can-be-evicted/
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Rape Culture 101: Dartmouth Students Threatened With Rape Over Protests—About Rape

All undergraduate and graduate classes in the arts and sciences at Dartmouth College have been canceled for Wednesday after a student demonstration sparked a backlash that included violent online threats against the protesters.

The controversy began last Friday, during an event for prospective students called Dimensions at Dartmouth, when around 15 students with signs burst in and began to chant, "Dartmouth has a problem!" Members of the group decried what they called incidents of homophobia, racism, and sexual assault on the Ivy League campus as several hundred prospective students—-admitted to Dartmouth but yet not committed to attending—-looked on.

After the protests, Dartmouth students flocked to Facebook and Bored at Baker—an online forum named for the campus library but not officially affiliated with the college—to share their opinions, many of which took on violent tones. The comments offered streams of profanity-laced insults about the protesters' ostensible sexual orientations and appearance, and included calls for physical violence against them involving razor blades and other weapons.

Examples such as, “Wish I had a shotgun, would have blown those fucking hippies away,” and “It’s women like these that deserve to be raped” and “Go die in a ditch” do little to disprove that extreme hatred exists at the college.

"We were well aware that attempts to speak truth about personal discomfort on campus are socially punished at Dartmouth," said Karolina Krelinova, a junior who was one of the demonstrators, wrote in an e-mail to The Chronicle. "But we definitely did not expect anonymous death threats and other very hurtful comments and threats both online and in person from people we keep meeting on the sidewalks and in cafeterias."

That Dartmouth DOES have a problem has been well documented. Last year, Rolling Stone published an extensive examination of Dartmouth’s fraternity hazing as the source of much of the school’s culture of rape. Before that, in December 2010, The Dartmouth Review cited the results of a report on campus crime while criticizing the lack of action:
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“The report indicates that in the years 2008 and 2009, the combined number of reported sexual assaults at Dartmouth were the highest in the Ivy League… Distressingly, Dartmouth topped the list among a number of schools where the rates of sexual assault are already abnormally high: three-quarters of these elite institutions reported rates of sexual assault that were over 80% higher than the national rape average.”

When a problem goes on and on over a period of years, it’s not surprising that some students–especially the victimized–are upset and demanding attention. What is surprising is the degree of invective that has been directed at the activists.

To the credit of Dartmouth’s administration–tardy as they may be–they finally responded to this latest, blatant outpouring of threats. They cancelled classes on Wednesday in order to offer a more valuable education. In a letter to students, the college said they would hold: “…alternative programming… that promotes respect for individuals, civil and engaged discourse, and the value of diverse opinions.”

And in an even more encouraging sign, the alternative programming, while not mandatory, was surprisingly well-attended.


http://chronicle.com/article/Dartmouth-College-Calls-a/138753/]
At least that one shows an attempt to at least face the problem...
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'You Deserve Rape' sign causes controversy on UA campus

A University of Arizona student holding a sign that read “You deserve rape” ignited outrage across campus Tuesday, on the same day of a sexual assault awareness event, but administrators declined requests to remove him or his sign.

Dean Saxton — also known as Brother Dean Samuel — regularly preaches on the UA Mall in front of Heritage Hill and the Administration building. On Tuesday, his sermon drew the attention of onlookers, several of whom either personally confronted him or complained to the Dean of Students Office.

Saxton, a junior studying classics and religious studies, said his sermon was meant to convey that “if you dress like a whore, act like a whore, you’re probably going to get raped.”

“I think that girls that dress and act like it,” Saxton said, “they should realize that they do have partial responsibility, because I believe that they’re pretty much asking for it.”

Saxton’s sermon came ahead of the “Take Back the Night” event held Tuesday night, which aims to unite people against sexual violence. He said his decision to create the sign and display it was tied to the event and to the fact that April is Sexual Assault Awareness Month.

“[Saxton] is part of a larger societal culture that tolerates rape, and that’s exactly what the Oasis Program Against Sexual Assault and Relationship Violence is here to counteract,” said Megan McKendry, a violence prevention specialist with Oasis, a program out of Campus Health Service. “His message is an awful one that we condemn. No one deserves to be raped.”

http://www.wildcat.arizona.edu/article/2013/04/you-deserve-rape-sign-c
auses-controversy-on-ua-campus
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Off The Battlefield, Military Women Face Risks From Male Troops

Dora Hernandez gave a decade of her life to the U.S. Navy and the Army National Guard, but some of the dangers surprised her.

"The worst thing for me is that you don't have to worry about the enemy, you have to worry about your own soldiers," she says.

Sitting in a circle, a group of women nod in agreement. All are veterans, most have spent time in Iraq and Afghanistan, but they're also survivors of another war. According to the Pentagon's own research, more than 1 in 4 women who join the military will be sexually assaulted during their careers.

"I was assaulted while I was in boot camp in the Army, and I was raped when I went to the Navy," says Sabina Rangel, who is hosting the group in her living room outside El Paso, Texas.

The women introduce themselves with similar short, shocking accounts of their military careers. It's the first meeting of a group set up by Grace After Fire, an organization designed specifically to work with female vets on their journey back from active duty to civilian life. Not an easy task.

A 'Culture Change'

About 19,000 sex crimes take place in the military each year, according to the Pentagon's most recent estimate. Many of the victims are male, but men in the service face the same risk of sexual assault as civilian men do. It's a different story for women. Women who join the military face a much higher risk of sexual assault than civilian women.

"It's a complex problem because it involves a culture change," says Maj. Gen. Gary Patton, the head of the Pentagon's Sexual Assault Prevention and Response Office. "We have to see a culture change where those victims of this crime are taken seriously at their unit level by every member of their unit, so you don't see the divisiveness and the lack of support and the feeling of isolation that these victims feel."

That isolation, and the uphill fight to even get the crime of rape reported, is what drives a high number of women like Sabina Rangel away from a planned career in the military.

Rangel signed up after high school to serve her country and earn money for college. It started from day one, with her drill sergeant at basic training.

"I thought he was trying to mentor me, but it was 'How close I can get?' " she recalls.

Rangel didn't enlist in the Army after boot camp. She didn't talk about the attack — almost to convince herself it never happened.

The Pentagon estimates that only 14 percent of sexual assaults get reported. Many victims say their rapists outranked them, and sometimes the perpetrator was the same official they'd have to report the crime to. This was the case for Rangel.

She was young, and after the assault she moved on with her life, got married and had a daughter. She later divorced, and in June of 2000, she tried the military again, thinking it could lead to a better job, this time in the Navy Reserve. She was assigned to an Army joint command in El Paso.

Red tape held up Rangel's paychecks, and when she got called in to her command sergeant major's office, she thought he was going to help her solve the problem.

"He let me know that if I would meet up with him in a hotel he would give me money. And I was like, 'No, I just need my paycheck,' " she says.

But the propositions didn't stop.

"I finally asked his secretary that when he called me and closed the door [to] please knock on the door. And she said, 'Sabina, it happens to everybody,' " Rangel says.

Dozens of women interviewed for this story spoke about a culture where men act entitled to sex with female troops. One joked that rape is part of the job description. Rangel says she tried to avoid ever being alone with the sergeant major, but he greatly outranked her.

"Then I had a mission that I had to go on, and this command sergeant major was there," Rangel says. "He and another sergeant major outright told me that we were going to have sex."

She reported the rape to her superiors, including a female officer, and was told to keep quiet. Other officers started hinting that they knew about the rape. Another sergeant major asked her for sex.

Rangel says she was trying to fight and stay in the military. "Finally one day I thought, what am I fighting for? For these people to abuse me, to sexually assault me?" She says she knew it was time for her to leave.

"I was really at a breaking point; I was becoming depressed. I contemplated suicide," she says.

A Pervasive Crime

Women in the military face a higher risk of being raped multiple times, according to the Pentagon's research. Rangel was doing well; she got two master's degrees in the military, and she'd earned medals and citations for her work. But she left in 2006 feeling angry, like a failure, and thinking she'd never be able to trust anyone.

Rangel says serial sexual predators move up through the service while women like her are driven out.

She adds that the predators seek out vulnerable women who they think will keep quiet for the sake of their military careers, and women who come from abusive family lives who have sought refuge in the military. Much more at http://www.npr.org/2013/03/20/174756788/off-the-battlefield-military-w
omen-face-risks-from-male-troops
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And lastly, the fallout from Stubenville STILL continues:
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Steubenville Rape Case: Teens Charged With Making Online Threats Against Victim

March 18 (Reuters) - Two teenage girls were arrested in Ohio on Monday and accused of using social media to threaten the young victim in a high-profile rape trial that concluded this past weekend, state Attorney General Mike DeWine said.

A 16-year-old girl is charged with aggravated menacing after using Twitter to threaten the life of the victim, DeWine said in a statement. A 15-year-old girl is charged with one count of menacing after making a threat on Facebook, he said.

The charges came a day after a juvenile court judge found Steubenville High School football players Trent Mays, 17, and Ma'lik Richmond, 16, delinquent in the Aug. 12 sexual assault of a 16-year-old girl at a party while she was in a drunken stupor. More at http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/18/steubenville-rape-case-twitte
r-threats_n_2904463.html


As most of the articles show, the public and organizations are reacting to the problem, but how do we change the individuals who continue to live in a culture where rape is thought about as something women deserve and to which men are entitled?

We still have a very, very long way to go...

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Friday, April 26, 2013 12:18 PM

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College’s husky dog logo promotes rape, says student



Yep. That's what she sees. Rape.

You can't make this stuff up...

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The new logo for the University of Connecticut’s sports teams is a terrifying husky dog that calls to mind images of sexual assault, says one student.

The new logo was unveiled last week, receiving mixed-to-negative reviews from UConn fans who preferred the older, cuter husky dog.

But one student went much further, criticizing the new, meaner logo for being a pro-rape symbol.

In an open letter to UC President Susan Herbst, self-described feminist student Carolyn Luby wrote that the redesigned team logo will intimidate women and empower rape culture.

UConn basketball coach Geno Auriemma said the logo “is looking right through you and saying, ‘Do not mess with me.’ This is a streamlined, fighting dog, and I cannot wait for it to be on our uniforms and court.”

In response, Luby wrote, “What terrifies me about the admiration of such traits is that I know what it feels like to have a real life Husky look straight through you and to feel powerless, and to wonder if even the administration cannot ‘mess with them.’ And I know I am not alone.”

There were two sexual assaults at UConn involving athletes in the past year, Luby claimed.

The logo and the teams it represents are menacing to women, she wrote.


Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/26/colleges-husky-dog-logo-promotes-rap
e-says-student/#ixzz2RbsmaQcp





How can she even tell the logo is a male dog or not ?

Niki, I know I've asked before, but are blue eyes in Huskies more often found in a particular sex ?


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Saturday, April 27, 2013 4:08 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


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Originally posted by Niki2:
We need to change it. A few examples:
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Policy Says Women Who Report Domestic Violence Can Be Evicted

Norristown, PA's “three strikes” policy is unbelievable, but, as one abuse victim found out the hard way, all too real. The policy states that if the police are called to a residence for “disorderly behavior” three times, the residents can be evicted, as landlords and tenants are penalized for these police responses. The horrifying twist to this policy is that this includes punishing victims of domestic violence.




Just wanted to note that the elected officials of Norristown Boro who list a political affiliation are all Democrats.

http://munstatspa.dced.state.pa.us/ReportViewer.aspx?R=LocalOfficial&a
mp;MunicipalityId=460933&rendering=H



"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Saturday, April 27, 2013 4:17 AM

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Oh, I forgot to add... no one deserves rape.

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Saturday, April 27, 2013 4:52 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Huskies have many different color variations in their eyes; brown and blue are both co-dominant traits. Either color can show up, even if both parents have blue or brown eyes. It's genetic, has nothing to do with the sex of the dog. There's more than just simple "brown" or "blue", by the way, aside from bi-eyed and parti-eyed (as in, both colors can also show up in the same eyes), there are variations of brown and blue, and there's even green... http://www.huskycolors.com/eye.html]

Malamutes, on the other hand, SHOULD only have brown or amber eyes, never blue. Interbreeding has changed that. Blue-eyed Mals cannot be shown. Any eye color is acceptable in a Sibe.

As to the mascot, it's an image; what one sees in an image is subjective. "Terrifying" most likely reflects the feelings of the woman involved; I don't know her background, but it's certainly more "threatening", if you will. The way it appears to me, the eyes have been shaped to look aggressive, as in more "wolfish", which is what I assume she sees as threatening. The image is created to look that way, naturally, given it's a sports team. It is a major change from the previous logo, which was much less intimidating:

Personally, I take her point, but from a different perspective. University sports are quite violent enough, and rape and other aggression connected to sporting events too often as it is. It's not a healthy mentality, and given the "free pass" so many male athletes get in our society, I think it's stupid to encourage that. I resent the logo because it is more sinister and wolf-like, and see no benefit in encouraging the attitude it represents in male athletes, nor appreciate the reflection on huskies, which battle their own bad rap and misunderstanding. Some insurance companies won't sell you homeowners insurance if you own a husky, which is funnier than hell in a way, because huskies (which have not been made aggressive by their owners) are among the least aggressive of dogs...also TERRIBLE watch dogs or burglar deterrents, as they love everyone, but their appearance and size makes them deterrents nonetheless.

The eyes are drawn that way deliberately to enhance the aggressiveness, obviously. Interestingly, blue-eyed huskies DO tend to "squint" more than dark-eyed huskies, that's been shown to be true (they also get cataracts younger). The reason for both is that they have less pigment in their eyes, so don't block the sun as well. It's neither here nor there; the squinting can, yes, give them a more threatening appearance.

So while I think "terrifying" is a sad statement on the woman's psyche, I agree that the new logo is far more aggressive and threatening, and not necessarily a good thing for a university which has been dealing with issues of rape. In other words, I agree with her, with reservations.

ETA: Shame on the Norristown officials, whoever they are and whatever party they represent. They need to think through their ordinances; what they have is just plain wrong. I see the problem, but there needs to be a better solution. I'm happy for you that you were able to dig around and gleefully lay it at the feet of Dems; I don't know the makeup of the officials and the article didn't say, so I'm not going to chase it down. The mentality that needs changing exists in all parties and governments.


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Saturday, April 27, 2013 5:08 AM

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The new logo looks more 'Husky' like, imo. The older UConn logo looks more like a generic ' dog ', with its tongue hanging out.

I like the UW's Husky logos...

http://www.historylink.org/db_images/huskylogo.JPG

Proud, non threatening.


Northern Illinois U.'s logo looks more cartoonish, in a scruffy sort of way.


Yes, the UConn's new logo is looking directly head on, and those squinty blue eyes, with those teeth... more threatening. But "rape" ? All I have to say is... poor girl. She's been traumatized in her past some time.

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Saturday, April 27, 2013 6:07 AM

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Originally posted by Niki2:
As most of the articles show, the public and organizations are reacting to the problem, but how do we change the individuals who continue to live in a culture where rape is thought about as something women deserve and to which men are entitled?

We still have a very, very long way to go...



Here's how I "deal" with rape.....

I DON'T Rape... End of story.


As for any other concern or claim.... well... I wasn't there. Short of physical bruises, cuts and other wounds, how am I to say one way or the other it happened or it didn't happen? Even if these exist, how am I to condemn a man to prison given all of the other craziness in the world today?

I'm actually quite confident that given 5 minutes alone in a room with nothing more than my bare fists and common household tools like butter-knifes, I could make a compelling case that i was beaten and/or raped by anybody I could have tied to my place last night who didn't have a rock solid alibi.



I think what Niki is really asking for is a world-wide surveliance system, al' la Orwell's 1984 that would be able to re-wind and get a second-to-second recount of every sexual encounter any citizen has.

Knowing that any government official at any time could watch you take a shit in your own bathroom in your own house even would sure put an end to rape in a month... wouldn't it?



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Saturday, April 27, 2013 3:39 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Mmm, I agree Rap, I like the U.W. one, too, much classier. Speaking for huskies everywhere, "we" approve. ;o)

I think it's pretty hard to deny that there is a mentality of violence and aggression which is fostered in sports. Don't know how you avoid it, sports like football being basically full-contact violence in and of themselves, and sports in general being mankind's "outlet" for "war", as it were. But I think in this day and age there's no reason to make it more aggressive than it has to be, especially given the university in question has a history of problems along those lines.

To each their own, to me there's just no question that we need a "mentality do-over" where it comes to women and rape. I don't expect to see it in my lifetime, certainly not with cretins like Six still dragging their knuckles around...


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Thursday, May 2, 2013 11:37 AM

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Or, you COULD make the whole thing up, and blame it on conservatives.


A well-known female liberal blogger and radio host at the University of Wyoming (UW) is being accused by police of fabricating a rape threat against herself to appear as if it came from a conservative.


The obscene message directed at activist Meg Lanker-Simons was posted on a college “crush” Facebook page earlier this week and immediately ignited outrage from the college community.

“I want to hate f**k Meg Lanker-Simons so hard. That chick that runs her liberal mouth all the time and doesn’t care who knows it,” it read. “I think its hot and it makes me angry. One night with me and shes gonna be a good Republican bitch,” the post reads, according to a screenshot.



Before the post was removed, Lanker-Simons commented on it and on her own blog, calling it “disgusting, misogynistic, and apparently something the admins of this page think is a perfectly acceptable sentiment.”

She also encouraged the poster to seek help at the UW Counseling service and ends with the advice:

“Instead of focusing on how angry and turned on me ‘running my mouth’ makes you, perhaps you should listen instead. You might learn something.”

But on Monday, The University of Wyoming Police Department issued a citation to Lanker-Simons for “interference” for “false statements she made to the UW Police Department,” according to a UW statement referred to by Laramie Boomerang Online.

"Subject admitted to making a controversial post on UW Crushes webpage and then lied about not doing it," according to the citation.

The University of Wyoming also confirmed a statement that the police had “"obtained substantial evidence verifying that the offending Facebook post came from Lanker-Simons' computer, while the computer was in her possession.”


http://www.campusreform.org/blog/?ID=4731

Wow. 'hate fuck'. I think we all learned a new phrase today.

Isn't that special!


( And surprise An uber feminist with a hyphenated last name. What ARE the odds ? )







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