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Right Winged Extremism in France

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UPDATED: Thursday, May 23, 2013 11:45
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Wednesday, May 22, 2013 2:36 AM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


A lot is written about right winged lunacy in the US, but some of the most worrisome examples comes from France.

This is an example.

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A far-right French historian has killed himself at the altar of Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris after declaring that more radical action was needed in opposition to same-sex marriage in France.

Dominique Venner, 78, walked into the building at 4pm and put a letter on the altar before shooting himself through the mouth, according to local media reports. Hundreds of visitors were immediately evacuated from the site, which is the most visited Catholic monument in Paris.

The motive for the suicide and the contents of the letter were not immediately clear, although Marine Le Pen, head of the far-right Front National, tweeted her "respect" for Venner and said his death was an "eminently political" gesture.

Manuel Valls, the French interior minister, arrived as officers cordoned off the site. He told French TV: "At the time of this act, the suicide of a desperate man, there were 1,500 people in the cathedral. These people were evacuated very quickly."

He said worshippers and tourists must have been in shock, adding: "Notre Dame is one of the most beautiful symbols of the capital and our country, and we can measure the impact of such an act."
Police stand guard after evacuating the Notre Dame cathedral Police stand guard after evacuating the building. Photograph: Yoan Valat/EPA

The rector of Notre Dame, Monsignor Patrick Jacquin, said it was the first suicide in decades at the 850-year-old cathedral, which is visited by some 13 million people each year, and perhaps the first time anyone had taken their own life in the building. "It's unfortunate, it's dramatic and it's shocking," he said.

Venner, a historian and former member of the Secret Army Organisation that opposed Algerian independence in the early 1960s and waged a terror campaign against Charles de Gaulle's government, had written on his blog on Tuesday about his anger over the recent legalisation of same-sex marriage, which he called vile.

Referring to a rally planned for Sunday against the law, which also amended adoption rights, he said the demonstrators were "right to shout their impatience and anger".

He also wrote of what he described as the risk of "a France fallen to the power of Islamists", saying that for 40 years all governments and parties, except the Front National, businesses and the church had accelerated north African immigration. He added that there needed to be "new gestures, spectacular and symbolic" to "reawaken the memory of our origins". He added: "We're entering a time where words should be authenticated by actions."

The bill became law on Saturday after a parliament vote and months of street protests, political slanging matches and a rise in homophobic attacks.
Notre Dame cathedral in Paris, France The 850-year-old cathedral is among France's most popular landmarks, with some 13 million visitors a year. Photograph: Vincent Wartner/20 Minutes/Sipa

François Hollande had made the legislation his flagship social reform, but the move triggered the biggest conservative and rightwing street protests in 30 years, followed by skirmishes near parliament that led to more than 200 arrests.

France is the ninth country in Europe and the 14th globally to legalise same-sex marriage. A concert to celebrate the law was scheduled to be held at Bastille in Paris on Tuesday night.

The country's first gay marriage is scheduled to take place in Montpellier, in the south, on 29 May between Vincent Autin, 40, who works in the tourist office, and Bruno Boileau, 30, a public sector employee.

More than 172 hours of heated debate in the parliament and senate meant the bill was one of the most debated in recent history, with furious clashes and a near fist-fight in the National Assembly.

One rightwing MP claimed the government was "killing children" by allowing same-sex married couples to adopt, while a senator said gay marriage would pave the way for people being able to marry animals or objects.

MPs in favour of the bill – the most significant social reform since France banned the death penalty in 1981 – suffered death threats; skinheads attacked a gay bar in Lille, while rights groups reported a surge in homophobic attacks.

One victim of such an attack, a Dutchman who lives in Paris, Wilfred de Brujin posted a picture of his bloodstained face on Facebook. The image was captioned: "Sorry to show you this. It's the face of homophobia."
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Wednesday, May 22, 2013 2:48 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Well, one less homophobe in the world, but too bad he had to mess up folks' visits to the cathedral.


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Wednesday, May 22, 2013 11:21 AM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


An influencial homophobe, one of France's growing number of ultra right. Le Pen ackowledging his worth, I note.

A man kills himself publically in protest at gay marriage, and this is the interest shown on these boards? If it was in New York or LA would it generate more response?

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Wednesday, May 22, 2013 8:04 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


still no interest, I see

shame...

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Thursday, May 23, 2013 2:11 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
still no interest, I see

shame...



Not sure what reaction you're expecting.

The guy was a homophobe and against same-sex marriage. He had influence with other homophobes who are against same-sex marriage. He was nutsy enough to think that killing himself as a protest against same-sex marriage would accomplish something. Better himself than someone else.

We got a lot of his type in the U.S. as well, but more folks who think people should marry who they want to. More states are legalizing same-sex marriage, and I expect it would be getting more traction at the national level if all the recent scandals hadn't come up.


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Thursday, May 23, 2013 4:33 AM

REAVERFAN


I think there's not a lot of response because there's not a lot of activity on these boards. I like it here, though. If you like Firefly, you can't be all bad! LOL

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Thursday, May 23, 2013 4:59 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


I saw the story, Magons, and passed on it. I'm FULLY aware of the extremism in France, it's nothing new, so I guess I found other things more worth putting up (that's just MY internal decision process, not a comment on it's value as an issue). I'm not sure what to say about it, except that yeah, there are crazies everywhere, homophobia is weird, and I'm sad he did what he did.


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Thursday, May 23, 2013 11:45 AM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Just trying to keep my own interest up.

Just not that interested in only reading about US politics, especially the endless stories about Benghazi and IRS.

I can't see why we have to have multiple threads on these issues.

Obama did know, he didn't, he had a party. I'm just not interested.

It would be nice to get a bit more of a global perspectives on this board

I do what I can.


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