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Conservatives seek alternatives to climate denialism, come up short

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Monday, July 1, 2013 3:04 PM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


Good analysis:

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On climate change, the GOP faces the same situation it faces on many other issues (gay marriage, immigration, guns): The right-wing base holds extreme positions that embarrass more reasonable Republicans. But the party leadership remains terrified of the base, especially after the primary massacres of the last few cycles. So Republican politicians have to be extremely careful not to publicly cross the crazies. At the same time, they are trying to “rebrand” the party to appeal to new demographics (young people, minorities, women). It’s a difficult — perhaps impossible — tightrope to walk.

Witness their strategy on climate change. GOP insiders have talked to enough consultants and pollsters to realize that outright denialism sounds backward and crazy to everyone outside their core demographic of older white men. Nonetheless, the right-wing base is still very much denialist. More so than ever.



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Ah God love the crazies, running the GOP into the ground...

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Monday, July 1, 2013 3:15 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


This is true. I know people on the right of politics, who support fiscally conservative policies, but who also support investment in green energy alternatives and are interested in conservation.

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Monday, July 1, 2013 3:29 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
This is true. I know people on the right of politics, who support fiscally conservative policies, but who also support investment in green energy alternatives and are interested in conservation.



" Investment " is code for the Govt spending our tax dollars for boondoggles like Solynda, and wind energy. Both complete failures.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

Resident USA Freedom Fundie

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Monday, June 13, 2022 4:54 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Wildfire tears through California forest as temperatures rocket

https://www.rfi.fr/en/wildfire-tears-through-california-forest-as-temp
eratures-rocket

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Sunday, May 7, 2023 4:58 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Clean Nuclear Cold-Fusion a possible answer to energy needs?

Vietnam has recorded its highest ever temperature, just over 44C (111F) - with experts predicting it would soon be surpassed because of climate change.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-65518528

US to appoint its first Arctic Ambassador - BBC News
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-62699129

‘Phenomenal’ logjam in the Canadian Arctic stores millions of tonnes of carbon: study
https://battlefordsnow.com/2023/04/29/phenomenal-logjam-in-the-canadia
n-arctic-stores-millions-of-tonnes-of-carbon-study
/

Fusion breakthrough is a milestone for climate, clean energy
https://phys.org/news/2022-12-scientists-fusion-energy-breakthrough-1.
html


Fact check: Despite claims in old video, Antarctic ice melting, sea ice set record low
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/fact-check-despite-claims-old-21524351
9.html

The Antarctic ice sheet is melting, according to NASA. Antarctic sea ice recently reached a record low

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Sunday, May 7, 2023 5:31 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Fusion? Been in the works for 50 years. Don't count on it.

What we can do TODAY:

"One bad fire season undoes 18 years of California decarbonization"
Answer: Better forest management in the USA. Planned thinning, not clear-cutting. Planting more trees in American cities.

How about not burning down jungles to make room for palm oil plantations (Indonesia, Borneo, etc) or ranches and soy farms? (Brazil)


Largest single emitter of greenhouse gases in the world? USA DoD
Answer: How about scaling back the mission of our "defense" department from being "world cop/hegemon" to actually... yanno...defending our borders? That would allow other nations to scale back their militaries as well.

High use for transportation:
Answer: Requiring ALL vehicles to meet emission standards (except utility vehicles). Does that mean doing away with two-ton SUVs? Oh, well!
Revitalizing our railways.
Eliminating private jets.

Cover crops and regenerative farming.

There are a lot of things things that can be done but will require money.

Solar has its place, in sunny climes.



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Wednesday, May 10, 2023 4:10 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


While pursuing the topic of regenerative farming, I came across this...

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Farmland management changes can boost carbon sequestration rates
May 11, 2015
by J. Merritt Melancon
Converting to pastures managed using intensive grazing principles can capture up to 8 metric tons of carbon per hectare

Athens, Ga. – Well-maintained pastures prevent erosion, protect water and, as it turns out, can restore the soil’s organic matter much more quickly than previously thought, according to a team of researchers from the University of Georgia and the University of Florida.

Soil contains the largest terrestrial reservoir of carbon. Tilling fields every year to plant crops releases soil carbon into the atmosphere. It’s been known for a long time that transitioning cropland to pastureland where livestock grazes replenishes the soil’s carbon, but their study showed that the process can be much more rapid than scientists previously thought.

“What is really striking is just how fast these farms gain soil organic matter,” said Aaron Thompson, associate professor of environmental soil chemistry and senior author on the study. “In less than a decade, management-intensive grazing restores these soils to levels of organic matter they had as native forests. These farms accumulate soil carbon at rates as fast as ever measured globally.”


More at https://news.uga.edu/farmland-management-changes-boost-carbon-sequestr
ation-rates-0515
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