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USC student claims police told her she was NOT raped because the attacker didn't orgasm
Friday, July 26, 2013 3:26 PM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:University of Southern California students claim in a federal complaint that the school has ignored or mishandled dozens of sexual assault cases, including one case in which a woman was allegedly told by campus police that her rape report was groundless because the assailant did not orgasm. 'Because he stopped, it was not rape,' the student was allegedly told by a Department of Public Safety detective, according to the complaint, which details similar stories from more than 100 other students. 'Even though his penis penetrated your vagina, because he stopped, it was not a crime,' the detective allegedly said. As a result, the woman's case was not referred to the Los Angeles Police Department, the complaint says. The U.S. Department of Education is launching a federal investigation into the woman's claims, along with the dozens of other allegations lodged against the school in the 110-page complaint. USC official Jody Shipper says the school will cooperate with federal officials on the inquiry. Several students behind the complaint held a press conference Monday to talk about their cases. 'The process made me feel raped a second time,' said Tucker Reed, 23, who is a theater major at USC. Reed says her ex-boyfriend raped her in December 2010. When she took her claims to university officials in December 2012, she said her case was not properly investigated and that it was eventually dismissed. She says she had presented detectives with evidence of the assault, including a recording in which her alleged attacker admitted to the crime. Another student, Ariella Mostov, said officials ignored her claims that she was sexually assaulted and that afterwards, she was forced attend classes with the suspect for an entire semester. 'USC was unwilling to make any accommodations for me,' she said, her voice shaking with emotion. 'I was outraged.' When another student went to the school's Department of Public Safety to report a sexual assault at a fraternity event, an officer told her and a friend that women should not 'go out, get drunk and expect not to get raped,' according to the complaint. The federal investigation is the latest in a series of inquiries into whether colleges are complying with the guidelines of Title IX, a federal civil rights law that prohibits sex discrimination in education. Similar complaints have been filed against other schools around the nation, including Occidental College, UC Berkeley, Dartmouth, Swarthmore and Yale. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2375635/USC-student-rape-claims-police-told-NOT-raped-attacker-didnt-orgasm.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490
Friday, July 26, 2013 4:16 PM
REAVERFAN
Friday, July 26, 2013 4:59 PM
Friday, July 26, 2013 5:05 PM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Quote: 'Even though his penis penetrated your vagina, because he stopped, it was not a crime,' the detective allegedly said.
Friday, July 26, 2013 5:16 PM
Friday, July 26, 2013 5:21 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: What a bore. If anything's wrong, by gawd, It Must Be Obama's Personal Fault! What was someone saying about obsession...? Maybe Rap needs to get laid...?
Saturday, July 27, 2013 4:03 AM
Saturday, July 27, 2013 4:06 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: "Not 1 word, nor hint of accountability raised."
Saturday, July 27, 2013 4:59 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Saturday, July 27, 2013 5:08 AM
Quote:Clinton can prey on young interns....meh. No biggie. Private, personal matter between him and his wife. No NOW-gang outrage there.
Quote: Rapes-a-plenty in Obama's military - Meh. Not 1 word, nor hint of accountability raised.
Quote:Wiener sexting girls 1/2 his age, and Dems marvel at how BRAVE his wife Huma is, to stand by her man. Gosh, such an inspiration !
Saturday, July 27, 2013 5:20 AM
WHOZIT
Saturday, July 27, 2013 5:34 AM
Saturday, July 27, 2013 6:05 AM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor Clinton can prey on young interns....meh. Wiener sexting girls 1/2 his age... No biggie. Private, personal matter between him and his wife. No NOW-gang outrage there.
Saturday, July 27, 2013 6:10 AM
Saturday, July 27, 2013 6:11 AM
Saturday, July 27, 2013 6:20 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Campus cops. I read about this in another article, the campus security said "Well, every student has the option to report to the city police" (The USC campus is located in LA proper, and is technically under the jurisdiction of LAPD, altho the LAPD has some sort of arrangement with campus security about which areas are patrolled by which entity.) Campus security has their hands full- the campus is in the middle of a blighted, high crime area of LA. USC used to do "outreach" to the neighborhood, bringing local kids onto campus for programs and stuff, but that didn't stop the robberies and assaults, so they are just buying up the neighborhood, building out their footprint, and walling off. Supposedly, USC has become very sensitive to sexual harassment and rape issues because they had such a problem with their football team. But they still have a very active fraternity culture (yep, those things do still exist), and since the student population is so transient it's a lesson that needs to be repeated every year. Maybe twice a year. And since campus security seems to be focused on campus- neighborhood crimes, not student-student crimes, maybe it needs to be to beaten into campus security's head very often too.
Saturday, July 27, 2013 6:26 AM
Saturday, July 27, 2013 7:57 AM
Saturday, July 27, 2013 8:40 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: The topic of the thread was how campus POLICE handled RAPE. As to all the diversions offered, "Was there rape? MMMmmm - no. Were minors involved? Not even close. So, what IS the issue, again?" As for rape in the military, it is already well covered, in numerous threads; the outcry against it and call for accountability BY THE MILITARY is loud, consistent and ongoing. It has nothing to do with rape on our campuses, which is a problem being handled differently on different campuses and, per this thread, very badly on some. Everything else is just shit being thrown out for distraction by people who do that loudly, consistently and ongoing (ly) ;o).
Saturday, July 27, 2013 8:48 AM
Saturday, July 27, 2013 8:57 AM
Saturday, July 27, 2013 9:00 AM
Quote:Add USC to growing ‘Colleges Making Rapes Worse’ list It’s as if colleges and universities across the country are competing to see who can handle sex crimes the most poorly. Ask 21-year-old Ari Mostov, who says a fellow student raped her at the University of Southern California. When the screenwriting major went to the campus authorities, she says they told her pursuing the case with the LAPD would mean “tough detectives” and name-calling in court. Plus, it’s not like Mostov “technically” was raped anyway because “he didn’t orgasm.” (Somewhere with someone I’ve lost a bet that Todd Akin’s “legitimate rape” comment couldn’t be topped.) “The school did everything it could to dissuade me from talking about being raped and asking for help,” she told ABCNews.com. Mostov says the university wouldn’t even move around her or her alleged rapist’s class schedules so that she wouldn’t have to see him everyday for an entire semester. Another USC student, Tucker Reed, says she provided the university with evidence that she was raped, including a recording of her alleged attacker admitting to it. The investigation dragged on for six months. The school did not take disciplinary action against the alleged perpetrator. “The process made me feel raped a second time.” That’s Reed speaking earlier this week during a protest against the university’s handling of reports of sexual assault on campus. Frustrated with the response by USC officials to their reports of sexual abuse, more than a dozen students went over their heads on May 22 and filed a complaint with the feds. The U.S. Department of Education this week confirmed it has opened a Title IX sex discrimination investigation to determine whether USC violated the survivors’ civil rights. Unfortunately, rape, the number-one violent crime on college campuses, is bigger than USC. One in four college women surveyed are victims of rape or attempted rape, according to 2008 Department of Justice data. Colleges with 6,000+ students average one rape per day in a school year. Since the start of this year, students from the University of Colorado at Boulder, the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, Occidental College and Swarthmore College similarly have filed Title IX complaints. For anyone else who feels keeping a running tally of the colleges under fire for not taking appropriate action against sexual assaults is becoming increasingly difficult, I’ve made a list: ?Amherst College ?*University of California, Berkeley ?*University of Colorado, Boulder ?Dartmouth College ?Georgetown University ?University of Montana ?*University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill ?Notre Dame ?Occidental College ?Otterbein University ?Princeton University ?Swarthmore College ?*United States Naval Academy ?University of Virginia ?Wesleyan University ?*West Point ?William and Mary ?Yale University *These universities were named among Forbes’ Best Public Colleges in 2013 and then promptly called out for botching reports of sexual assaults in Jezebel. And those are just the most recent and highly publicized cases. After all, most college women who are raped (95 percent) never report to the police. Now for the good news. More students are speaking out, informing their peers of their rights and organizing nationwide to improve the way their schools deal with sexual assaults. And it’s working. Colleges and universities like Amherst, University of Montana, UNC, Occidental and Yale are beginning to address their rape problems by reviewing their procedures, talking with survivors and honestly reporting information. While these institutions’ actions more closely resemble a cleanup of a massive PR disaster than a concerted effort to protect their students from sexual assault, they are signs of progress. If we want to truly change rape culture on college campuses, we need to begin with open, meaningful and, yes, at times painful dialogue at home, in school and in the media. Instead of picking apart hookup culture, consensual sex and young women’s “empowerment” or “degradation” by participating in it, let’s focus on consent and the encounters that lack it (say sexual assaults on campus, for example). Let’s talk about the 84 percent of college men who committed rape and then said what they did definitely was not rape. Let’s talk about what that says about relationships and the need for proper sexuality education. That sexual assaults on college campuses are a national trend is bad. But covering it up, blaming survivors and not learning what it says about where we are as a society is much worse. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/she-the-people/wp/2013/07/26/add-usc-to-growing-colleges-making-rapes-worse-list/
Saturday, July 27, 2013 9:08 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Geez, does this guy even BOTHER with the news??? "Students Turn to Feds for Action on Alleged Rapes", http://abcnews.go.com/US/students-turn-feds-action-alleged-rapes/story?id=19763938&.tsrc=sun?date=40540407 "USC Students Who Claim School Mishandles Rape Cases Say Feds Are Investigating", http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2013/07/20/usc-students-who-claim-school-mishandles-rape-cases-say-feds-are-investigating/ (it's all over So. Ca. CBS news) "Student Group: USC Mishandles Rape Reports ", http://www.nbcnews.com/id/52538602/ns/local_news-los_angeles_ca/t/student-group-usc-mishandles-rape-reports/ (it's all over L.A. NBC stations, too) Videos on Bing about it: http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=USC+student+claims+police+&qpvt=USC+student+claims+police+&FORM=VDRE It's a story that's been going on for days, and it's being covered...you really need to do more than sit in front of your TV with your nose buried in FauxNews. It's about rape and in L.A., so it's mostly being covered there. Neither rape nor local stories are national news-worthy most of the time. Get a grip! (or not)
Saturday, July 27, 2013 9:20 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Just to be clear Whozit - this isn't about one rapist being protected by a wealthy and influential person on one campus. The USC story is about "dozens of sexual assault cases", but complaints have also been filed against, but not limited to, Occidental College, UC Berkeley, Dartmouth, Swarthmore and Yale. There are a number of things that lead up to this. One is the general discounting of rape if the man asked the woman out and paid for dinner, if the woman had been drinking or was drunk, if the woman said no but didn't forcibly resist, etc. When it comes to campus rape in particular, there are a series of incentives in place that put higher value on the institution's appearances and finances than on the safety of female students in relation to male students.
Saturday, July 27, 2013 9:45 AM
Saturday, July 27, 2013 10:25 AM
Saturday, July 27, 2013 10:44 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: I think the zit is losing it, poor little man. He's shocked, SHOCKED I tell you!, that Zimmerman, etc., are all over the news (not to mention the new British monarch-to-be) and rape isn't getting attention. He doesn't understand how the media works, apparently. This surprises exactly who?
Saturday, July 27, 2013 12:20 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor Clinton can prey on young interns....meh. Wiener sexting girls 1/2 his age... No biggie. Private, personal matter between him and his wife. No NOW-gang outrage there. Monica Lewinsky was 21. She was definitely 'of age' in any state, and no force was involved.
Quote: As for Weiner, these are the ages of the women he sexted with: Gennette Cordova 21, Meagan Broussard 26, Ginger Lee 28, Traci Nobles 35, Lisa Weiss 42. Since Weiner is around 48 years old, that would make women half his age 24 - not exactly young girls. Weiner is a putz, but sexting between adults is legal. If you're going to criticize him at least get some facts on board.
Quote: Oh, and what should the 'NOW-gang' be outraged about? Was there rape? MMMmmm - no. Were minors involved? Not even close. So, what IS the issue, again?
Saturday, July 27, 2013 4:37 PM
Sunday, July 28, 2013 1:22 AM
Sunday, July 28, 2013 1:38 AM
MAGONSDAUGHTER
Sunday, July 28, 2013 6:52 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Magonsdaughter: Different issues entirely Don't threadjack stick to topic
Sunday, July 28, 2013 6:58 AM
Sunday, July 28, 2013 7:21 AM
Sunday, July 28, 2013 7:42 AM
Quote:not that you would ever stray from your constant partisan sniping long enough to actually think about the issues in a larger contest.
Sunday, July 28, 2013 8:23 AM
Sunday, July 28, 2013 8:47 AM
Sunday, July 28, 2013 9:51 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Not sure what you mean. It's a disgrace that our military is being called out for being totally ineffective in stopping sexual assault? That they insist the status quo of the military handling it is okay, when obviously it's not? Please clarify.
Sunday, July 28, 2013 11:41 AM
Monday, July 29, 2013 1:56 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Bullshit, and everyone knows it. You haven't anything relevant to say, all you ever do is snark...and you wonder why everyone mocks you! So desperate to be noticed and so little life that he's just GOT to respond to every post...but nothing to say, so he just shows how pathetic he is.
Monday, July 29, 2013 5:12 AM
GEEZER
Keep the Shiny side up
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: For anyone else who feels keeping a running tally of the colleges under fire for not taking appropriate action against sexual assaults is becoming increasingly difficult, I’ve made a list: Amherst College University of California, Berkeley University of Colorado, Boulder Dartmouth College Georgetown University University of Montana University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill Notre Dame Occidental College Otterbein University Princeton University Swarthmore College United States Naval Academy University of Virginia Wesleyan University West Point William and Mary Yale University
Monday, July 29, 2013 6:29 AM
Tuesday, July 30, 2013 5:06 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: This surprises you? If so, I'm surprised...
Tuesday, July 30, 2013 6:01 AM
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