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Right-Wing Zealots Are Already Freaking Out About The Return Of Cosmos!

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Wednesday, March 12, 2014 4:18 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


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The reboot of Carl Sagan’s Cosmos is here and, as Ned Twyman predicted, the anti-science crowd is furious. Unfortunately, even though it aired on FOX, Cosmos presented viewers with a scientific view of the universe and, to some, that means the end of the world.

Neil DeGrasse Tyson, host of the show, continued in the tradition of walking us through the universe and presenting anti-Creation, anti-God propaganda. Can you believe he said that we are made of “star stuff” rather than invisible strands of Jesus’ love?

In all of our world’s 6,000 years there has not been a more ridiculous idea than that the world was not created in six days. All this reboot of the show accomplishes is to push the liberal, atheist viewpoint through anti-Christian propaganda!

After all, it was endorsed by Barack “Benghazi” Obama…right?

Just take a look at what these geniuses have to say about it:



























Amen.

For the above people, here’s an version edited for creationists.



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Wednesday, March 12, 2014 4:46 PM

STORYMARK


"Stop poking holes in our mythology!!"




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Wednesday, March 12, 2014 5:05 PM

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And these people vote Republican. Scary.

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Wednesday, March 12, 2014 5:27 PM

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And these people VOTE--that's what's really scary!


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Wednesday, March 12, 2014 5:34 PM

AURAPTOR

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The intro by Obama was a bit over the top, as he's done more to limit our spending in space exploration than any other President.

That aside, I found ep 1 of NdT's Cosmos to be rather bland. He basically repeated the same script from the original series. Star Stuff, billions of years old... just with fancier CG. Not much FX goin' on back in '79 vs 2013.

And yes. These are religious zealots. If they vote, they likely do vote Republican.

However , most of their kind stayed home during the 2012 election, so there is that. But they're no less 'scary' than the moon bats who wander out into the forest to hold cry parties around the trunks of trees, as they try to commune w/ mother Earth.

Takes all types, apparently.


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Wednesday, March 12, 2014 6:29 PM

BRENDA


Reading those tweets from "supposedly" intelligent human beings is just incredible.

I was 5 years old when I first understood evolution and knew that this is how the earth and the planets came into being. There was no poofing or magical being involved.

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Wednesday, March 12, 2014 6:38 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Reading those tweets from "supposedly" intelligent human beings is just incredible.

I was 5 years old when I first understood evolution and knew that this is how the earth and the planets came into being. There was no poofing or magical being involved.



5 is a bit young to be comprehending the matters of evolution, but what ever.

These tweets are from folks who are the product of group think, peer pressure and religious dogma. And like it or not, most of the humans on the planet think like this, or some similar manner.

Per the show, I knew there'd be ( and will be more ) commentary on the impact of climate change. That would fall right in line w/ Carl's message, that we humans must take care of the precious piece of real estate we have in the Earth. And I fully agree. But I think Dr. Sagan had are more immediate concern , that of mutually assured destruction from a geothermal nuclear war. Even if AGW were true, we'll have decades , if not centuries to adapt, and not all results would be negative. Same can't be said for the other.

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Wednesday, March 12, 2014 9:55 PM

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I just finally saw the first episode of the new Cosmos.

I can see why the zealots are freaked. This show made no attempt to accommodate their fantasies, thank goodness. It was frank about what our observations of the universe say about reality. This is how it is folks. If you don't like it, if you don't like evolution and the big bang and the age of the universe and climate change (yes, that was in there!) tough rocks. Reality is what it is. You can bitch and moan, but the scoreboard at the end of the game will tell you the truth. All your feeble arguments about reality will add up to nothing.

Yes, that was a dig at our RWAs.

The episode made me realize how much of my own life may have been determined by Carl Sagan and the old Cosmos. The RWED RWAs are as stupid as ever if they don't think young minds can't comprehend such complex ideas. I have a photograph of myself at the exact age of 5 (which I'd post but it's not on this computer), me sitting on an airplane with an open book on my lap and a furious frown on my face as I pondered... I don't know. Who knows what? I don't recall, but I know for sure that I was a thinker even then. My decision to be a physicist was grounded in an early curiosity and fascination with what is "out there." Carl got me going with this, the local library and their astronomy books kept it alive. Neil will have the same effect on the new generation, with even more power because the visuals are far better and the knowledge has expanded exponentially in the past few decades.

Which is all to say: good show.


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Wednesday, March 12, 2014 10:20 PM

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Still have no clue what 'RWA' is suppose to mean.

Oh well.

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Wednesday, March 12, 2014 10:33 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:


5 is a bit young to be comprehending the matters of evolution, but what ever.



I believe it. I was 5-6 when I realized the stuff they were selling me didn't make any sense. I played along for about six more years, but I remember rolling my eyes at it when I was really little... The only good thing I got outta the divorce was not having to go back to that.

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Wednesday, March 12, 2014 10:40 PM

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I'm not child psychologist, but it sounds more like being at the age of defiance than really understanding. Kids still buy into Santa at 5,but you're gonna question ...oh, never mind. If you believe that's what you thought at 5, then the matter is settled.

Goodonya.

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Wednesday, March 12, 2014 10:45 PM

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I was saddened by the Cosmos reboot. It showed the Asteroid belt as chunks if rock all easily in sight of each other, while the actual density of the belt is much less dense. The same with the Oort cloud. Wish they'd gone for real science rather than pretty pictures.


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Wednesday, March 12, 2014 11:07 PM

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I was saddened by the Cosmos reboot. It showed the Asteroid belt as chunks if rock all easily in sight of each other, while the actual density of the belt is much less dense. The same with the Oort cloud. Wish they'd gone for real science rather than pretty pictures.


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."



There was a bit of a disconnect in what they showed from what Neil was saying. He did bring up the fact that the 'neighbors' in the Oort cloud are further away from each other than ( Jupiter ?) is from the sun. Or something to that effect.

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Wednesday, March 12, 2014 11:27 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"I have a photograph of myself at the exact age of 5 (which I'd post but it's not on this computer), me sitting on an airplane with an open book on my lap and a furious frown on my face as I pondered... My decision to be a physicist was grounded in an early curiosity and fascination with what is "out there." Carl got me going with this, the local library and their astronomy books kept it alive."

My dad wad an accountant. My mom a nurse. So of COURSE I gravitated toward HER books with pictures of giants and midgets and tetanus tetany and circulatory systems. That was around the age of 4 or 5. Later I read Rachel Carson.

It was all so interesting. Still is.

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Wednesday, March 12, 2014 11:31 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"It showed the Asteroid belt as chunks if rock all easily in sight of each other ..."

I was thinking the other day - if I were to design a theme park ride - it would be based on 'if you were a beam of light headed out from the sun how long would it take you to get to, and past, each of the planets and what would it look like' ...

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Wednesday, March 12, 2014 11:46 PM

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I believe it. I was 5-6 when I realized the stuff they were selling me didn't make any sense. ...



Yep. Me too.
Plenty of people can & do think by the age of 5 & earlier.

See Scout in To Kill a Mockingbird.



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Thursday, March 13, 2014 12:23 AM

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"It showed the Asteroid belt as chunks if rock all easily in sight of each other ..."

I was thinking the other day - if I were to design a theme park ride - it would be based on 'if you were a beam of light headed out from the sun how long would it take you to get to, and past, each of the planets and what would it look like' ...



Ohhhh... cool...

Well, cool if the riders were all familar with the idea of mean free path... In reality, not so much. It'd likely slip right past folks.

As to other posts: The RWAs reveal their idiocy in that they are doorknob slaves to whatever was taught to them when they were 5. Hence (as they see things) all other children must be similarly stupid. Thank goodness, we're not all as dense as Rap and Jong and Zit and Geez. They'll never be able to *grok* that, but so it is.

Really wish I had that picture of young me to post. Truth be told, I was horrified when I first saw it some 20 years after it was taken. I was such a serious child! My dad only smiled and proudly told me about how I acted when I *got* it that maps model the roads in the real world and what I saw on paper corresponded to what I'd see at the next exit. He couldn't get map out of my hands after that.

All in all I'm nothing but grateful to be a person who THINKS. I don't know how it happened, I'm just glad it did. Wish it would it would happen for more people.



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Thursday, March 13, 2014 12:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Reading those tweets from "supposedly" intelligent human beings is just incredible.

I was 5 years old when I first understood evolution and knew that this is how the earth and the planets came into being. There was no poofing or magical being involved.



5 is a bit young to be comprehending the matters of evolution, but what ever.

These tweets are from folks who are the product of group think, peer pressure and religious dogma. And like it or not, most of the humans on the planet think like this, or some similar manner.

Per the show, I knew there'd be ( and will be more ) commentary on the impact of climate change. That would fall right in line w/ Carl's message, that we humans must take care of the precious piece of real estate we have in the Earth. And I fully agree. But I think Dr. Sagan had are more immediate concern , that of mutually assured destruction from a geothermal nuclear war. Even if AGW were true, we'll have decades , if not centuries to adapt, and not all results would be negative. Same can't be said for the other.




AU, I was one of those kids who understood what adults were talking about because I was around adults so much. And I would watch the news with my dad at that age. That was when I started thinking about politics and how the world worked.

I was in grade 3 when I started reading and I do mean READING history books on the Ancient world. Greece, Rome and Egypt before moving on to North America.

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Thursday, March 13, 2014 2:27 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


FWIW, I put a lot of thought into the ride - it's not a fast ride, but it has a lot of effects ...

... when you start out you start out on typical, and fairly bumpy, noisy and uneven, mini-railroad tracks

you roughly go around three (perhaps four) sharp corners with serious light and sound absorbing material

you transition to raised tracks in an open space, where the tracks are like captive air tables

around you it is very dark, very silent, very frictionless, and slightly cool

as I said, around you it is, it is dark, silent, and frictionless - except above, to the sides and below - are constellations and galaxies made of myriad small LED 'stars'

and then the ride, consisting of 3-D surround projections, begins, as does your journey as a beam of light through the solar system and beyond ...

... at least, that's how I imagined it.



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Thursday, March 13, 2014 8:41 AM

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Why should zealots be unhappy with the science of cosmology? Believing that God created the Cosmos makes them much happier than science. Why?

God, who created the Universe and even gave life to the Believer, has the power to smooth away problems in the Believer's life.

Even better, the Believer is not obligated to help other Believers more than a token amount because other people's problems are really God's problems.

And best of all, the World's bigger problems are exclusively for God to solve. This frees Believers to put most of their personal energy into looking after their own souls.

It is very liberating to toss all responsibilities, except for the ones your Shepherd preaches, onto God.




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Thursday, March 13, 2014 8:55 AM

GEEZER

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Quote:

Originally posted by MAL4PREZ:
As to other posts: The RWAs reveal their idiocy in that they are doorknob slaves to whatever was taught to them when they were 5. Hence (as they see things) all other children must be similarly stupid. Thank goodness, we're not all as dense as Rap and Jong and Zit and Geez. They'll never be able to *grok* that, but so it is.



One Liberal reveals his idiocy when he tries to lump folks who disagree with him into a group to which they do not belong. Auraptor is an atheist, I'm an agnostic, and I don't hear Jongs and Whozit complaining about the effect of Cosmos on religion.

Oh, and using a word from "Stranger In a Strange Land" is supposed to be all liberal-clubby? Please.


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Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:04 AM

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Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Yeah, Second, the "Jesus created it for us to enjoy" jumped out at me, too. Aside from the fact that JESUS didn't create it, even if you take the Bible literally...pretty sad when they can't even get their own beliefs right! Something rising in my throat...

And I will freely admit that I'm not one of the early-self-aware among us. I actually only have a few fragmentary memories of anything that young, my memories start a couple of years later, and I bought the whole package until I was older, never questioned a damned thing. I know I was INTERESTED in astronomy before 8, and one of the fragmentary memories is of dad coming home from work at night...he would grab me and swing me in the air, and I would call out the planets' names as he swung me in a circle. It's a treasured memory, one of very few. I remember a big astronomy book, and a book about dinosaurs, my two favorite subjects, but no, I never questioned anything. Of course, my parents weren't religious and didn't teach from the Bible or anything, but I wouldn't have questioned it if they had, I'm sure.


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Thursday, March 13, 2014 10:22 AM

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Originally posted by Niki2:

And I will freely admit that I'm not one of the early-self-aware among us. I actually only have a few fragmentary memories of anything that young, my memories start a couple of years later, and I bought the whole package until I was older, never questioned a damned thing. I know I was INTERESTED in astronomy before 8, and one of the fragmentary memories is of dad coming home from work at night...he would grab me and swing me in the air, and I would call out the planets' names as he swung me in a circle. It's a treasured memory, one of very few. I remember a big astronomy book, and a book about dinosaurs, my two favorite subjects, but no, I never questioned anything. Of course, my parents weren't religious and didn't teach from the Bible or anything, but I wouldn't have questioned it if they had, I'm sure.


Amanda Gefter has an entertaining new book, Trespassing on Einstein’s Lawn, about her very youthful interest in cosmology. Amanda and her Father accumulated a room full of astronomy books. She made science writing her career.
www.amazon.com/Trespassing-Einsteins-Lawn-Beginning-Everything-ebook/d
p/B00E2RYTJA
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Thursday, March 13, 2014 11:47 AM

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Originally posted by Brenda:

AU, I was one of those kids who understood what adults were talking about because I was around adults so much. And I would watch the news with my dad at that age. That was when I started thinking about politics and how the world worked.

I was in grade 3 when I started reading and I do mean READING history books on the Ancient world. Greece, Rome and Egypt before moving on to North America.



That's cool. I was totally unaware and not interested in politics or history all though my education. It wasn't until bush got in office that I realized that it DOES matter who is in charge. I started paying attention. Guess it mattered that my parents never talked politics, but my dad did talk science a lot. So I grew up with my head in the clouds, or above the clouds so to speak.




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Thursday, March 13, 2014 11:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
FWIW, I put a lot of thought into the ride - it's not a fast ride, but it has a lot of effects ...

... when you start out you start out on typical, and fairly bumpy, noisy and uneven, mini-railroad tracks

you roughly go around three (perhaps four) sharp corners with serious light and sound absorbing material

you transition to raised tracks in an open space, where the tracks are like captive air tables

around you it is very dark, very silent, very frictionless, and slightly cool

as I said, around you it is, it is dark, silent, and frictionless - except above, to the sides and below - are constellations and galaxies made of myriad small LED 'stars'

and then the ride, consisting of 3-D surround projections, begins, as does your journey as a beam of light through the solar system and beyond ...

... at least, that's how I imagined it.





Kind of reminds me of the first scene from the movie contact....

I'd buy a ticket for that!


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Thursday, March 13, 2014 11:51 AM

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Thursday, March 13, 2014 12:17 PM

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Originally posted by MAL4PREZ:

Judy m sleeps well at night knowing that she is the center of the universe and it all exists just for her!



Amen and Praise Jesus!

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Thursday, March 13, 2014 12:38 PM

STORYMARK


The Fox affiliate in Oklahoma broke into the show to air an ad over the sole mention of evolution.

Apparently, they were disappointed when this isn't what they got:






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Thursday, March 13, 2014 12:49 PM

AURAPTOR

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How many times must we see the same clip from Seth McFarlane's 'Family Guy' ?

Pretty sure FOX knew who Seth McFarlane was when he was tapped to be a part of the revised COSMOS series.





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Thursday, March 13, 2014 1:26 PM

STORYMARK


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Originally posted by AURaptor:


Pretty sure FOX knew who Seth McFarlane was when he was tapped to be a part of the revised COSMOS series.





Well, duh.

And this has what to do with... what, exactly?




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Thursday, March 13, 2014 1:39 PM

AURAPTOR

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" Not too bright, though "

FOX is supposedly watched by who ? Right-Wing "zealots" . So why then, did they choose a black guy and Seth McFarlane to make the Cosmos reboot, if their target audience was going to be so against it ?

I'm just taking the Left's idiotic premise out to its logical conclusion.

Go ahead. Post the clip just one more time.



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Thursday, March 13, 2014 1:51 PM

STORYMARK


Someone is having trouble distinguishing between Fox Network and Fox news....

You're taking an imagined idiotic premise - and owning it. Its what you do... "Not too bright" on soooo many goddamned levels, its impressive.




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Thursday, March 13, 2014 2:00 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Quote:

Someone is having trouble distinguishing between Fox Network and Fox news....


Yeah, made me smile when I read that..."duh" indeed.

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Thursday, March 13, 2014 2:02 PM

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Originally posted by Niki2:
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Someone is having trouble distinguishing between Fox Network and Fox news....


Yeah, made me smile when I read that..."duh" indeed.



Yeah, Im still laughing at it.

"Someone mentioned Fox.... and I don't think it was positive.... Knee jerk defense mode ON!"

Hilarious.




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Thursday, March 13, 2014 2:17 PM

AURAPTOR

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Originally posted by Storymark:
Someone is having trouble distinguishing between Fox Network and Fox news....




Ooooh. So, all these years of Firefly fans being angry at the suits of FOX Network had zero to do w/ FOX News ? Really?

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You're taking an imagined idiotic premise - and owning it. Its what you do... "Not too bright" on soooo many goddamned levels, its impressive.



You're not a lion, or even alliance, but in fact, a LIAR.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Thursday, March 13, 2014 2:44 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Someone is having trouble distinguishing between Fox Network and Fox news....




Ooooh. So, all these years of Firefly fans being angry at the suits of FOX Network had zero to do w/ FOX News ? Really?

Quote:



You're taking an imagined idiotic premise - and owning it. Its what you do... "Not too bright" on soooo many goddamned levels, its impressive.



You're not a lion, or even alliance, but in fact, a LIAR.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall



Right... Firefly fans weren't mad at Fox for cancelling Firefly.... but because of Fox News....

And your misunderstanding a post makes *me* a liar.

Riiiiiiight. Whatever helps you get through the day, sweetheart.

God, you are amazing. You never stop finding ways to be a bigger idiot. Impressive, Ill give you that much.

And thank you for being the poster child of brain dead wingnuts. You are exceptional at it.




"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Thursday, March 13, 2014 2:57 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


I'm not misunderstanding anything.

I'M the one who pointed out the nonsensical hatred for FOX News , years ago, by those who were angry at FOX Network.

I'M the one who mocked you idiots for barking up the wrong tree.


Crassic.


Storybook - you're the wrong gender for me, mate. Save your 'sweethearts' for those who play ball on your side of the plate. That ain't me.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Thursday, March 13, 2014 4:49 PM

BIGDAMNNOBODY


I can't believe Niki pasted 12 tweets that no one is going to read when two or three would have made her point.

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Thursday, March 13, 2014 6:15 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


I interrupt your daily petty bickering with your feel good science moment...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2580066/Engage-Fly-take
s-dizzying-journey-known-galaxies-races-universe-warp-speed.html


Ships' ready, Cap'n...

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Thursday, March 13, 2014 6:21 PM

BRENDA


Quote:

Originally posted by MAL4PREZ:
Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:

AU, I was one of those kids who understood what adults were talking about because I was around adults so much. And I would watch the news with my dad at that age. That was when I started thinking about politics and how the world worked.

I was in grade 3 when I started reading and I do mean READING history books on the Ancient world. Greece, Rome and Egypt before moving on to North America.



That's cool. I was totally unaware and not interested in politics or history all though my education. It wasn't until bush got in office that I realized that it DOES matter who is in charge. I started paying attention. Guess it mattered that my parents never talked politics, but my dad did talk science a lot. So I grew up with my head in the clouds, or above the clouds so to speak.






My dad did talk politics around me and my brother and with my mother. My dad had a limited education because of the time frame he was born in which was the early part of the 20th century, but as he got older and did his travelling in the Canadian army with WW2, he could see that the world was changing and understood that education was important. So, he always encouraged me with what I was reading or learning in school. History fell into my lap more after I was told that we were part American Indian. Archaeology was my big love and I still try and keep up with news on digs around the world and such.

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Thursday, March 13, 2014 6:25 PM

REAVERFAN


That's really cool, Brenda. I'm no expert, but that stuff is fascinating.

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Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:39 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


I agree; your dad was one of the special ones, Brenda. It's always been my belief that the world would be a better place if everyone had to travel when they were young--preferably to a culture as different as possible from their own. Your dad is a perfect example.

My mom is a different kind of example. She was born at the turn of the century, too, and having been an immigrant from France affected her; the result of which was that a love of language rubbed off on me, and stayed. Whatever else I may think of her, I'm grateful for that. If only they could give us more of those GOOD gifts, the world would be much different, too.


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Friday, March 14, 2014 12:33 AM

BRENDA


That stuff is fascinating Reaverfan and still is to me like I said. And it probably always will be.

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Friday, March 14, 2014 12:42 AM

BRENDA


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
I agree; your dad was one of the special ones, Brenda. It's always been my belief that the world would be a better place if everyone had to travel when they were young--preferably to a culture as different as possible from their own. Your dad is a perfect example.

My mom is a different kind of example. She was born at the turn of the century, too, and having been an immigrant from France affected her; the result of which was that a love of language rubbed off on me, and stayed. Whatever else I may think of her, I'm grateful for that. If only they could give us more of those GOOD gifts, the world would be much different, too.




Well, outside of visiting the States with his father and brothers, the war let him go through Europe. Not in a pleasant way but he got to experience what it was like to maybe not have his race called into question. As an adult, he was around 33years of age when he enlisted it would have been an eye opener for him. I like to think my dad was special.

I like languages and picking up words from different ones. My dad and his brothers and sisters spoke French when they were young but it was lost when my grandfather put his foot down and made my grandmother stop. My grandmother was Metis which in Canada means she was half-French/half-Indian.

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Friday, March 14, 2014 8:24 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
I interrupt your daily petty bickering with your feel good science moment...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2580066/Engage-Fly-take
s-dizzying-journey-known-galaxies-races-universe-warp-speed.html


Ships' ready, Cap'n...




Thanks

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Friday, March 14, 2014 9:28 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Hee, hee, hee; apologies for repeating myself, but you might have read my story about how my mom was brought here by her mother, who also brought her grandmother. Her mother, proud to be an immigrant, refused to ever speak French again, while her grandmother, who didn't want to come and never became a citizen, refused to learn English. So they made my mom translate between them for years. People can be verrrrry strange!

Back to the original topic:
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Oklahoma Fox Station ‘Accidentally’ Cuts Evolution From ‘Cosmos’

A Fox station in Oklahoma edited out a reference to evolution in Cosmos. While this could be seen as a simple editing error (not uncommon), the fact that it occurred during the only reference to evolution in that episode makes it a little too coincidental. According to the Los Angeles Times, the station blamed it on a “master control operator error.” However, there was no explanation as to what that actually means.

Oklahoma’s recent anti-science history.

Last year, lawmakers considered a bill that would have allowed students to argue untested, faith-based claims in their papers without it affecting their grades. That bill died, but lawmakers have has proposed another anti-science bill for this year. This one is supposed to allow different views on science in the classroom. It could also let teachers teach creationism instead of evolution in the classroom.

In 2009, the state legislature also critiqued Oklahoma University for hosting biologist Doctor Richard Dawkins. They were against his invitation because of his views on evolution. They called his speech “indoctrination” and said evolution “an unproven and unpopular theory.”

When they failed to prevent Dawkins’ speech, they started investigating the school itself. They asked for communications records between them and Dawkins prior to the speech. The state wanted to know who paid for the event, and they wanted an itemized list of all the costs involved. The truth is that Dawkins actually waived his speaking fee for the event. He instead donated $5,000 to the Oklahomans for Science Education. The university apparently treated the whole thing as an annoyance.

(Also, "Oklahoma is currently considering a law, SB 1765, that it sponsors say will help teachers encourage critical thinking in students when dealing with “scientific controversies,” including biological evolution, the chemical origins of life, global warming and human cloning. The National Center for Science Education, a watchdog group, says the bill is a backdoor way for the religious to teach creationism." http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/oklahoma-fox-station-cuts-evo
lution-segment-cosmos-article-1.1720481#ixzz2vwXzGHdA
)

This just a little piece of how Christian privilege is alive and well there. The irony of course is that the big bang was first theorized by the Catholic priest Georges Lemaître. Evolution is science, not a religion, so Oklahoma needs to teach it. It’s still entirely possible that the Fox affiliate just made a bad editing error. However, given how nutty Oklahoma seems to be, it’s more likely that they intentionally blotted out the sole mention of evolution in that episode because they didn’t want to even mention evolution. http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/03/13/oklahoma-fox-cosmos-censor-evo
lution
/


You can decide for yourselves at http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/oklahoma-fox-station-cuts-evo
lution-segment-cosmos-article-1.1720481
, which posts both how Cosmos was aired there and the complete version. They cut the episode at EXACTLY the minute he starts to talk about it being "9:45 in the cosmic year"... it seems pretty clear to me.


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Friday, March 14, 2014 9:40 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


I'm pretty sure this won't be the last time 'evolution' is mentioned or even focused on during the remaining 12 episodes of the series.

The 'edit' from the station may have nipped the first mention of human evolution,but the show then goes on to detail our journey, from 3 million to 30,000 years ago... Even if some yahoo Cletus from OK wanted to derail the show, he didn't do a very good job of it.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Friday, March 14, 2014 10:27 PM

BRENDA


People are strange Niki.

And Oklahoma is out of its ruttin' mind. Editing mistake my asgard. That was no mistake that was deliberate.

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Saturday, March 15, 2014 4:00 AM

OONJERAH



Just goes to show ya, not all branches of our family tree have Evolved equally.
And they don't want to.


====================== :>

The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it. ~George Orwell

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Wednesday, October 11, 2017 11:43 PM

OONJERAH


Trouble in Paradise? At BioLogos, Theistic Evolutionists Fall Out
Among Themselves
https://evolutionnews.org/2017/10/trouble-in-paradise-at-biologos-thei
stic-evolutionists-fall-out-among-themselves
/

{ When I was in High School, Oboy -- Did I love to argue about evolution
vs. Bible's Genesis! Lucky for me, there was one kid who loved to argue
the Genesis side. ... Maybe that's the problem for some of us who enjoy
a good argument: finding a willing & happy opponent.
    It was a long time ago. }


... oooOO}{OOooo ...

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