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Shootings!

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Wednesday, December 2, 2015 3:34 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


It's not the media, it's not politics, it's not black or white or alien, it's not the guns, it's not games, or movies, or additives in food...


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3343309/At-TWENTY-people-gunne
d-California-mass-shooting-police-search-three-suspects.html







IT'S PSYHOTIC PEOPLE.

Predominantly psychotic MEN people.

Why is this soooo hard to get?


That G-23 Paxilon Hyrochorate is lookin' better and better and betterer....

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Wednesday, December 2, 2015 4:05 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Yes shooting trending on twitter and reddit
possible explosive device.....


https://twitter.com/RWSurferGirl/status/672155063075209216

https://twitter.com/492_AMU/status/672148045233025024

https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/3v6jw5/mass_shooting_active_sho
oter_in_california_san
/

https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/3v6iq7/authorities_respond_to_2
0_victim_shooting
/

https://www.reddit.com/live/w0nn1o5hu90y


https://twitter.com/latimes/status/672147970075320323

https://twitter.com/ComplexPop/status/672145715045507072



Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:







IT'S PSYHOTIC PEOPLE.

Predominantly psychotic MEN people.




Don't jump to conclusions yet, the scumbag murderers might have loony political motivation, the barbaric killers might have have some wacko god or religion that inspires them to murder, they might be on drugs or a crzy ganglnd mafia hit gone wrong....you just don't know yet...there is even a small precentage of possiblity it could be a woman with some involvement, you know women have killed too? Catherine the Great? Myra Hindley? the European Countess Báthory? Delphine LaLaurie? Aileen Wuornos?...women historically have killed too and even the recent woman in Paris France who suicide bombed herself....although men are far more likely to commit violent crime it is a sad fact that women can also be equally able of doing such evils

Before saying anything as true I would say
wait for the reports from police, FBI, paramedic...wait until news interviews the victims the firefighters helping on the scene before you draw a picture



The twitter shows the buzz from newsfeeds, Cop to Dispatch Radio on Reddit website gives a feeling for what may be going on

You can read police dispatch or twitter witness...to develop a picture but I would say
We will have to wait for official statements

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Wednesday, December 2, 2015 4:09 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


P.S. that aside.... I have a problem... ironically with a female psychotic!

I have a neighbor(ish) and for two years I was cordial to as I walked the dog past their house. One day she decided that I was the only person around that she could "use". She calls EVERY DAY (I've stopped picking up the phone)
and leaves messages that I should call her, even though I've made it very clear I DO NOT CALL ANYONE. I don't even call family if I can avoid it. Her husband is a mean drunk and he gets drunk EVERY holiday, and last year shot out a window throwing a gun at her. She shows up at my house constantly wanting rides to go get her numerous medications. (I don't know why but she doesn't drive)

I don't want to get in an argument with her as it is very clear she is unstable, and she has proven she will not hesitate to confront my daughter over perceived slights...

Besides MOVING, do you have any suggestions?

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Wednesday, December 2, 2015 4:20 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


reports of nearby Shopping center - shots fired

Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:


Besides MOVING, do you have any suggestions?



they sound too stupid to grow up, so find a way of informing them to get a divorce, people in a toxic relationship just spread their bad vibes and spread noise pollution to everyone around them...if they seperate they might have better lives

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Wednesday, December 2, 2015 5:15 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


11 o clock shooting. active shooter situation. long rifle "shell casings" found? killers wore body armor, masks, camo army jacket? 3 people entered large facility, busy building. 14 badly wounded. massive medic aid response. suspects may have fled, may be at large, suspects spotted in black SUV. no motive at this time. wounded are being extrated. FBI local police working to find suspects, it may or it may not be terrorist incident. Reports 14 dead. do not yet have information from witnesses on whether suspects said anything during shooting. Suspects with long-gun have fled. People who done killing came prepared, dressed prepared, weapons prepared. no indication yet of global terrorism but at minimum may be a domestic terrorist type situation. men arrived on a mission. reports say masks were involved
Suspects STILL at large.
PRESS CONFERENCE taking place


in other news

Dow Jones industrial average lost 158.67 points, or 0.9 percent, to 17,729.68.
the Nasdaq composite index fell 33.08 points, or 0.6 percent, to 5,123.22.

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Wednesday, December 2, 2015 5:52 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:


...although men are far more likely to commit violent crime it is a sad fact that women can also be equally able of doing such evils...




Pleeeease. If you even skimmed the reports of the shooters, armor, ak-47s- you know these are guys. And women are just as ABLE, but DON'T. Says a lot.

STOP GIVING TESTOSTERONE A PASS. And I literally mean that.

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Wednesday, December 2, 2015 5:54 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:


they sound too stupid to grow up, so find a way of informing them to get a divorce,]




Neither of them has anywhere to go. And she would try to move in here, it ain't happenin...

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Wednesday, December 2, 2015 6:11 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Yes reports are of 3 men, three armed males on the run



Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
And women are just as ABLE, but DON'T. Says a lot.

STOP GIVING TESTOSTERONE A PASS. And I literally mean that.



what are you ranting about now

women do ocassional make violent crime, I recently read of an Egyptian woman beating her sinful daughter to death with a rock because she sinned by hanging around with boys, I have read another of a Palestinian mother putting and plastic bag over her daughters head and smothering her because her dress shamed the family, another of a mother and father killing their son who wanted to leave islam....women have done violent crime, they do it less than men but they still do it
I think you need to get over yourself, get over whatever wacko feminist views you got because girls and women also do crime, although statistically its a lower percent than men

people with ovaries and estrogen are also able to do violence













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Wednesday, December 2, 2015 6:17 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

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Wednesday, December 2, 2015 6:18 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


sh!*t i heard 'officer down'

hope its going to be ok :(


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Wednesday, December 2, 2015 6:22 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


'Requesting medical aid'

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Wednesday, December 2, 2015 6:22 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


suspected SUV come to a stop

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Wednesday, December 2, 2015 6:23 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Officer hit?

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Wednesday, December 2, 2015 6:27 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


*heavy gun fire* sounds ?

setting up perimiter

chopper noise?

talking about a school


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Wednesday, December 2, 2015 6:30 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Police in foot-pursuit of a suspect

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Wednesday, December 2, 2015 6:36 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Pipe bomb located

shots fired again?

SWAT team needed, (radio chatter is very busy hard for me to pick it all up)

somebody running through backyards

call for ballistic shield team

need support

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Wednesday, December 2, 2015 6:51 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Someone in church

one subject on 2nd level of building

Cops now calling houses near were a bomb was found

somebody running across airfield with phone

camo pants and orange shirt/suit? behind church

cop hear female arabic voice

bomb squad in bomb disposal called


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Wednesday, December 2, 2015 6:53 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Good news! Sounds like they got him surrounded!

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Wednesday, December 2, 2015 6:54 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Houses being evacuated

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Wednesday, December 2, 2015 7:06 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Talk of a latino man, shaved head hispanic looking man
3rd man being persued
AR-15 gun picked up
no further explosive devices
Code 3 'lights and siren'?
'no other explosive devices located'
another suspicious subject detained
other locations being looked at?


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Wednesday, December 2, 2015 7:08 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Officer injury not life threatening

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Wednesday, December 2, 2015 7:10 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


One Subject detained

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Wednesday, December 2, 2015 7:15 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


NBC tweet One officer injured, non-life-threatening, during police shootout with suspect
Trump twitter - 'Police and law enforcement seem to have killed one of the California shooters and are in a shootout with the others. Go police'
ABC news Two suspects being "dealt with"
Fox says Suspect may be barricaded in church
LA County Sheriff's retweets SB county
Suspicious vehicle reported to dispatch
seaScanner911 says 4 officers injured. 8 people transported to hospital
Marc Brown 'Possible additional suspect still inside the black SUV'
Michelle Tuzee twitter 'Bullet riddled dark SUV'
Suspicious two long beards drove by location twice
Call for public to avoid the area Gunfire exchanged w/suspects during follow up invest
patrol reports, dealing with active shooter in area
locking perimeter down

Residents told stay indoors
Other residents being evacuated

helicopter view




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Wednesday, December 2, 2015 7:34 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Snapchat has audio of gun battle in San Bernardino

SB county 'We are asking that all people in the SB area south of San Bernardino Ave east of Mt. View stay in their homes w/doors locked & secure'

Scanner is quiet now Dispatch reports: Radio difficulties.

u can decode cop radio messages here
http://www.radiolabs.com/police-codes.html

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Wednesday, December 2, 2015 7:35 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


Did you just confuse us with Twitter?

#ummmno?

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Wednesday, December 2, 2015 7:38 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:

people with ovaries and estrogen are also able to do violence ....although statistically its a lower percent than men




See, I don't even have to make my own point.

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Wednesday, December 2, 2015 7:44 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


In 2013 there were 102,400 adult females in local jails in the United States, and 111,300 adult females in state and federal prisons

In 2013 there were 628,900 adult males in local jails in the United States, and 1,463,500 adult males in state and federal prisons

1 to 6
1 to 14

Testosterone IS the problem.


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Wednesday, December 2, 2015 8:10 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


News media reports its a 'dispute' and not an act of global terrorism
news reporter says not terrorism but a gun event after 'argument at a party'
Buildings being shutdown, Offices at SB Airport are also closed, suspicious person near airport,
another report of suspect running near airport
EMTs need right away
someone hit by vehicle
yard to yard search
Drone in the air?
bomb threat at Med Center
Fox17 comments on Scanner Report suspect Farooq Saiid or Farouk Sayed
http://www.weaselzippers.us/243182-despite-no-previous-threats-against
-san-bernadino-homeland-security-sure-scrambled-this-plane-pretty-quickly-huh
/

two suspects dead? one is male, one female
explosion in a rear alley, child screaming, fire in D Avenue

20 victims reported, according to Fire Department
Read more at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=807_1449091802

chopper pilot says one of the dead suspects may be a female, unconfirmed report, but he says he saw the suspect wearing a red bra.

air view of car

https:// i.imgur.com/ e7FUVft.png

IED found?
Police being pulled back
FBI will be taking over

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Wednesday, December 2, 2015 8:34 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Farooq Saeed.

Name of one of the suspected shooters.


Make of that what you will.

* that name is now being said to have " washed out ", and isn't being sought as being connected , though terrorism is NOT being ruled out.

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Wednesday, December 2, 2015 10:21 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Yes I've seen and heard Farooq Saeed in San Bernardino with Suspect Muslim Female....I hear it on scanner, seen the name on twitter


Then I seen the media try say he wasn't a muslim

later he was a muslim once again

then it wasn't Saeed.....

....finally I see articles on this Saeed guy


...not sure what to make of the media frenzy


NEWS:
Police used a robot to search for possible explosive devices, and the police scanner noted of a possible IED....

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/san-bernardino-shooting/they-just-sta
rted-shooting-survivor-recounts-attack-n473181


Quote:

Two possible suspects, a man and a woman, were shot and killed in an exchange of gunfire with police hours after the after officers chased a vehicle that resembled one sought after the shooting, San Bernardino Police Chief Jarrod Burguan told reporters.

A police officer was also hurt, but the injury was not life threatening, she said.




The shooting erupted during a holiday party in a conference room. Fourteen people were killed.
At least 10 of the 17 wounded are in critical condition.
Authorities identified a possible suspect as Syed Farook and another as possibly his brother.
Police shot two suspects after a high-speed chase in a shootout hours later.
The suspects — a man and a woman — were killed.
A third person seen fleeing from the scene of the shootout is in custody.
A police officer was wounded in the shootout.



FBI say shooting in California 'may or may not have been a terrorist attack'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/12030160/Ca
lifornia-shooting-Multiple-victims-reported-in-San-Bernardino-live.html


Two law enforcement sources identified one of the suspects in the San Bernardino shooting as Syed Farook.

According to public records, a Syed R. Farook worked as an environmental health specialist for San Bernardino County. It's unclear whether that is the same person connected to the attack. The shooting occurred at an event for the county's public health department.

Two other federal law enforcement sources, while not revealing the name of the suspect they were referring to, said he was an American citizen.
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-san-bernardino-shooting-li
ve-updates-htmlstory.html

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Wednesday, December 2, 2015 10:38 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:


* that name is now being said to have " washed out ", and isn't being sought as being connected , though terrorism is NOT being ruled out.



they forgot how to do their news, quick fax them those charts



Fox's Rod Wheeler was on, he's waiting for reports of someone of the killers saying the words 'Alley Ackbor' or crying out the words Admiral Akbar before he can call it - if those words were not said then its work place violece
if those words got said then its terrorism....media is a joke now, they are unable to think for themselves

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Wednesday, December 2, 2015 11:11 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


They got the name backwards.

Saeed Farooq is now the name which HAS been released.

2 are dead, and apparently there's no 3rd individual.


Good grief.



Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Wednesday, December 2, 2015 11:53 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


This is the most bungled media whitewashing I have ever seen...

Right now it could've been Mr. Snuffleupagus and Mrs. White in the Vestibule with the semi-automatic Candelabra...
But we know there was a semi-automatic SOMETHING.
THAT'S the important part

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Thursday, December 3, 2015 1:17 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/03/us/how-often-do-mass-shootings-occur
-on-average-every-day-records-show.html?hpw&rref=us&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=well-region®ion=bottom-well&WT.nav=bottom-well


How Often Do Mass Shootings Occur? On Average, Every Day, Records Show




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Thursday, December 3, 2015 2:39 AM

JO753

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I hav the perfect way to chase her away.

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Thursday, December 3, 2015 4:55 AM

G

... fully loaded, safety off...


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
IT'S PSYHOTIC PEOPLE.

Predominantly psychotic MEN people.

Why is this soooo hard to get?



Hey! That's my schtick! Men love to kill! We have it in us because we might have to to defend our pride, and of the 2, male female, our build makes us better suited for it - total wa guess. Evolution.
You listed incarceration stats and how unbalanced they are, how about death stats???? Who's more responsible for killing who out there in the big world? (I went around and around with Byte about this many moons ago.)

Like you said: Why is this soooo hard to get?

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Thursday, December 3, 2015 6:09 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Husband and wife death team, it seems. They wore body armor and go-pro cams.

Yep. Just your typical work place violence. Nothing to see here.

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Thursday, December 3, 2015 6:45 AM

RAHLMACLAREN

"Damn yokels, can't even tell a transport ship ain't got no guns on it." - Jayne Cobb




How much do we know about the explosives that were found?

Is there any robotic means to remotely dissect the bombs, so things can be more thoroughly investigated? A possible missed opportunity.

How many reliable witnesses counted three suspects?

*Also, I want to know EXACTLY what the argument at the party was about.


It is scary how this shit was going down during my first viewing of Fahrenheit 9/11.

*ETA


Find here the Serenity you seek. -Tara Maclay

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Thursday, December 3, 2015 9:40 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Media drops ball

PBS NewsHour has a half hour of CAIR,.....big murder spree, IEDs, mass shooting, police gun battles and PBS runs straight to CAIR to ask why!? is it islamophobia!? why?
some in-law is speaking and you see the CAIR banners “I have no idea ... Why would he do something like this.”
CAIR recap: (rational wiki CAIR, is, depending on who you ask, either a human rights and civil liberties organization founded to protect the rights of Islamics or a Muslim Islamist lobby group with ties to the Muslim Brotherhood and terror group Hamas. It should be noted that it's perfectly possible for both to be true. CAIR has been listed as a terrorist organization by the UAE, mainly due to an ongoing pissing match between the UAE and the Muslim Brotherhood, whom the UAE feels is giving CAIR their marching orders. )

Here we go, people come to their own conclusions

Quote:


http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1602506&page=28
Gonna be a workplace gun violence incident.... regardless of how many times a day they prayed first, or how long the radical islamists were planning it, or how many IEDs they found, or whether they were from Qatar or not.
http://forum.slowtwitch.com/forum/Slowtwitch_Forums_C1/Lavender_Room_F
4/Mass_shooting_in_San_Bernardino%2C_12_dead_P5787531-7

According to one report there were two brothers. Both same initials, but different middle name starting with R. At press announcement for brother-in-law, a picture was shown of one brother, and they responded, no, that is the older brother. One was tax guy and other environmental inspector. Some stories conflate the two brothers.
http://heavy.com/news/2015/12/syed-sayeed-farouk-farook-inland-regiona
l-center-san-bernardino-shooting-suspect-gunman-name-identified-redlands-age-motive-photos-social-media-family-facebook-video-chase-shot-killed-dead
/
Burguan said the suspects, wearing “assault-style” tactical clothing and armed with assault rifles and handguns, died at the scene. A suspicious device, possibly an explosive, was found near the car, according to police. A possible explosive device was also found inside the Inland Regional Center, police said.

Police said the suspects fired at officers from the vehicle, and the officers returned fire. The SUV was riddled with bullets, and both of the suspects were killed.

A police officer was also wounded during the shootout, but is expected to survive.
http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/off-topic-humor-discussion/226201-
another-mass-shooting-now-san-bernardino-20-down-29.html

This morning is the first that I'm really hearing about and looking into the whole events that unfolded yesterday, and here's what I've put together on my own: An American born devout Suuni muslim goes to Saudi Arabia for a month earlier this year and comes back with a wife he didn't previously mention, and together they shoot up his office Christmas party with ARs, pistols, IEDs, and extra mags (and possibly armored) chest rigs, before shooting it out with the cops after a brief chase. This isn't speculation as it's all been confirmed by multiple sources.

I've had to put that together on my own because no MSM outlets will come out and say it like it is. Why strain at the neck to tap-dance around the issue this much? Are we really not going to address and continue to ignore the HUGE, GINORMOUS elephant in the room??
http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/showthread.php?481088-Mass-shooting-
in-progress-San-Bernardino/page2

national gun control is the only answer.
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/san-bernardino-ca/TRB1R1GSKPF4PEO9U
PS.....The media is trying to play it down, but it is clear that Farook was extremely religious.
http://www.xdtalk.com/threads/shooting-in-san-bernardino.282351/page-2
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Syed Farook's wife's name: Tashfeen Malik.
Half a dozen middle-eastern men going in and out of the condo in recent weeks, but neighbor didn't report out of fear of being called racist.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141277682
Apparently he met his wife/gf online and they both came back from Saudi Arabia
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/12/03/2-suspects-killed-shootout-san-be
rnardino-massacre-14-killed
/
Farook, who authorities said was born in Illinois, and raised in California and had worked as a $51,000-per-year restaurant inspector at the San Bernardino County Department of Public Health for five years, was described by co-workers as a "devout" Muslim, who lived in a home in nearby Redlands, which sources described as "an IED factory." Bomb squads working with robots swept the home late into the night Wednesday, and witnesses reported hearing several explosions.



Is CNN, is the ConfusedNoiseNetworks Anderson Cooper some kind of CIA shill lacky for defending Saudis, protecting islamism? Cooper went on and on about work place violence and mental health never once was terrorism mentioned.
Here is more from online blogs and forums and one quote RussiaT basically the USSR Pravda news of today
I never thought I would see the today where I be going to a Ruskie newspaper
to find out truth about some islamo nutcases killing people in California

Quote:



Burguan later contradicted Bowdich’s assessment, however: “At the minimum, we have a domestic terrorist-type situation here,” the police chief said, noting that the three suspects “came in with a purpose, they came in to do something.”
http://www.mycopper.net/Forum/yaf_postsm671857_FOX-News-Contributors-F
arooq-Saheed-Is-Shooting-Suspect-in-San-Bernadino-Shooting-VIDEO.aspx

FOX : “Faruq Saheed” Is Suspect in San Bernadino Shooting
shooting reload
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/religion-politics-world-events/629806-shootin
g-san-bernardino-12.html

https://www.rt.com/usa/324372-san-bernardino-active-shooter/
Now confirmed:
It's all a simple misunderstanding. A bunch of county employees had a Christmas party, and one of them disagreed with something that was going on. He then went home and grabbed his body armor, accomplice, pipe bombs, assault rifles and went on a shooting spree.

It's bad enough when a lone nut job goes on a shooting spree, but this was clearly a calculated, planned event.
https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/1836960-san-bernardin
o-ca-mass-shooting-p13.html

Police have identified the suspected shooters in today’s mass killings as Syed Farook, 28, and Tashfeen Malik, 27. Both were killed in a gun battle with police following a brief pursuit.

Syed Farook and Tashfeen Malik were married and have a 6-month-old baby. AP reports that Farook had traveled to Saudi Arabia earlier this year and returned with his wife.
http://www.survivalistboards.com/showthread.php?t=413805&page=66
Apartment was a IED making facility --
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=301136&am
p;page=11

They feel confident that the IEDs in the Redland residence and the center were real.
The female was named as Tashfeen Malik.
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/20/33701901-multiple-shootings-in-ca
lifornia.html

Just seen a graphic shot from the chopper that shows the deceased suspect, it was speculated that at least one is female, the reporter is speculating both deceased suspects are female, the image I just saw from the chopper appears to show this too.
http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?s=4ea245802af1
e923851aff9159f9fe9f&t=489167&page=13

So,
We have a dead shooter male is an American Devout Muslim who shot up a Christmas Party.
We have a dead female Muslim from Qatar who helped him.
Both attacked in full battle gear.
If that isn't Muslim Terrorism, then this is not a Moto Forum.
Female shooter identified. Tashfeen Malik
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=40c_1449109810
Chase, US citizen posts the event on social media, police bomb squad going through people's yards


http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f54/hahaha-workplace-violence-obama-s
aid-again-sb-shooting-sickening-3114989
/
"Workplace Violence!"
neighbors say he and his wife had been getting deliveries and working in the garage all night for a while now and when the police went to the residence, they described it as a "bomb making factory."
So hmm, Muslim, travels to Saudi Arabia, sets up bomb factory in his garage. Nah, must not be terrorism.
http://www.conservativesforum.com/cgi-bin/conservatives-forum/YaBB.pl?
num=1449085794/46

This is an embarrassment to us and across the world. They are ALL playing dumb. Yet they can tell us EXATLY how many rds they had of every different caliber...
https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/breaking-mass-shooting-reporte
d-in-san-bernandino-ca.366374/page-26


San Bernardino police chief Jarrod Burguan said late Wednesday that police have not ruled out terrorism as a motive in the mass shooting in Southern California. He said that, based on the armor and level of preparation, “there had to be some degree of planning in this.”

Authorities reportedly said that three explosive devices found at the scene of shooting were “disposed of.” While investigators believe the devices were a “pipe bomb-type design,” Burguan could not confirm that at this stage.
http://forums.officer.com/t202934-8/
Now the second suspects name is being retracted and claiming it was a hoax...

Phuck, I'm off to bed...



the mainstream media is a dinosaur, the mainstream media is dead

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Thursday, December 3, 2015 11:55 AM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


*Key Sentence*

"He then went home and grabbed his body armor, accomplice, pipe bombs, assault rifles and went on a shooting spree."

Only a terrorist or devout redneck "patriot" would just happen to have that laying around...

Every article is going out of the way to say "workplace violence"

And I'm glad to know we're on the same page about something, G.

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Thursday, December 3, 2015 12:56 PM

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... fully loaded, safety off...


Ironical:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2015/12/02/hours
-before-san-bernardino-mass-shooting-doctors-were-on-capitol-hill-petitioning-congress-to-lift-ban-on-gun-violence-research
/

Hours before San Bernardino shooting, doctors urged Congress to lift funding ban on gun violence research

On Wednesday morning, a group of doctors in white coats arrived on Capitol Hill to deliver a petition to Congress. Signed by more than 2,000 physicians around the country, it pleads with lawmakers to lift a restriction that for nearly two decades has essentially blocked the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention from conducting research on gun violence.

Joined by a handful of Democratic lawmakers, the doctors spoke about the need to view gun violence as a public health epidemic and research ways to solve it – as the country would with any disease causing the deaths of thousands of Americans each year.

[Gunmen slay 14 in Calif. in deadliest mass shooting since Sandy Hook]

“It is disappointing that we have made little progress over the past 20 years in finding solutions to gun violence," said Nina Agrawal, a New York physician and member of the advocacy group Doctors for America, according to the group's Twitter feed.

“As a pediatrician, I am deeply troubled that gun violence is a leading cause of death in children.” - Dr. Nina Agrawal

“We should all be able to agree that this debate should be informed by objective data and scientific research,” said Rep. David Price (D-N.C.).

The group cited a letter released by former Rep. Jay Dickey of Arkansas, who authored an amendment that restricted federal funding for research into gun violence and its effects on public health. He now regrets that effort.

"Research could have been continued on gun violence without infringing on the rights of gun owners," wrote Dickey, who has said he only wanted to ensure that no dollars went to gun control advocacy. "Somehow or someway we should slowly but methodically fund such research until a solution is reached. Doing nothing is no longer an acceptable solution."

After the speeches and presentations, after the group posed for pictures, Wednesday's event ended. The crowd dispersed. And hours later, another mass shooting began to unfold in San Bernardino, Calif. Multiple shooters, multiple victims – with 14 dead and even more wounded.

Perhaps that's not as much of a coincidence as it might seem, given that the United States has experienced an average of more than one mass shooting for every day of 2015.

"It’s ironic," Price said in an interview Wednesday evening, after the extent of the carnage in California became clearer. "It certain does underscore what we were saying earlier today about the scourge of gun violence, which has become such a feature of our daily lives."

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Thursday, December 3, 2015 5:55 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


News media clowns is this the begining of the end for US media? Is it better to go to the Onion, softcore site NakedNews, Colbert Report and MIBs Weekly World News for more accurate reports??
KTTV says gun control and said cops searching for 3 angry white males dressed in military gear…”
NBC reported 3 whites attacking near by the Planned Parenthood facility and 'gun control'
News from Dianne Feinstein, Barbara Boxer, regressive left political leaders = gun control, change gun laws, gun banning
Mark Knoller white males - gun control
Hillary Clinton tweeted “stop gun violence now.” or some sh!t
LA Times and the drugged out journalistic Socal nuts of California even now is still blabbing about evil conservatives, anti-immigration racism, islamophobia and the reality of work place violence
Sam Stein Huffington Post or Forbes? 'Planned Parenthood is 1.3 miles from shooting'
Geraldo - WTF!! The 2d Amendment is Stupid!!! Don't rationalize.
HuffPo writes a goof on religious people
When Salon hears a muslim name tweeted in active shooting “I guess you got what you say you wanted” RIGHTWINGERS
Bloomberg Business - San Bernardino Planned Parenthood(...seriously you can't make this sh1t up)
DNC chair Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL) blasts Republicans for “demonizing an entire religion.” She also renewed her push for Syrian refugees to be admitted to the country, arguing that Syrian migrants today are like Jews
Steve Miller - MSNBC The planned parenthood clinic is only a few blocks away"
Celebrity Hollyweird elites, seth green, rashida jones, debra messing, amy schumer, christina applegate....gun control, evil white men, gun control, ban guns, gun control, gun bannings, gun control
CAIR National hears a muslim might be involved writes WATCH OUT FOR ISLAMOPHOBIA (this is while the islamist IEDs, gun battles, pipebombs, while mass murders continued)
CNN’s Cooper reporting on gun control, work place violence, gun banning, racism against muslims.... what a f*cking Saudi loving idiot Cooper is, does he take it up the ass from Saudi for extra money?
Majority of US mainstream news media “workplace violence”?








Real news





http://canadafreepress.com/article/77229
[ there was also an anti-Obama rant in the article so i cut to the facts ]
Quote:


“Patrick Baccari, a co-worker of Farook who suffered minor wounds from shrapnel slicing through the building’s bathroom walls, told the Associated Press he been sitting at the same table as Farook at the banquet before his colleague suddenly disappeared, leaving his coat on his chair.

“Baccari also said that Farook had traveled to Saudi Arabia for about a month this past spring. When Farook came back, word spread that he had gotten married and the woman he described as a pharmacist joined him shortly afterward. The couple had a baby later this year. Baccari added that the reserved Farook showed no signs of unusual behavior, although he grew out his beard several months ago.

....

“FBI spokesman David Bowdich acknowledged that “adjustments” had been made in the investigation with an eye on the possibility terrorism was involved.


“In addition to the explosives found at the SUV, authorities discovered and detonated three pipe bombs late Wednesday at the Inland Regional Center, the complex where the initial shooting took place about 60 miles east of Los Angeles.

“Another source described a house in Redlands that was being searched in connection with the shooting as “an IED facility.” The source said investigators discovered multiple pipe bombs in the house, as well as small explosives that were strapped to remote-controlled cars.


....





http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/02/san-bernadino-mass-
shooting
/

Quote:

There appear to be two suspects, both Muslim, a husband-and-wife team named Syed Rezwan Farook, 28, and Tashfeen Malik, 27. Large portions of the city remain locked down.

The F.B.I. is treating its inquiry into the massacre here as a counter-terrorism investigation, two law enforcement officials said Thursday, based on materials the suspects stockpiled — including explosives — their Middle East travels and evidence that one of them had been in touch with people with Islamist extremist views, both in the United States and abroad.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3344350/Devout-Muslim-citizen-
Saudi-wife-living-American-Dream-identified-heavily-armed-duo-burst-office-holiday-party-slaughtered-14-leaving-baby-mother.html


Quote:


Radicalized US Muslim clashed with his Jewish co-worker over religion two weeks before he and Pakistani wife killed 14 at office holiday party using huge arsenal of weapons and pipe bombs

During an early-morning search of a residence in the city of Redlands associated with Farook or his family, Chief Burguan said agents came away with a massive arsenal of ammunition, including 2,000 9mm rounds, another 2,500 .223 rounds and several hundred long-rifle bullets, along with 12 pipe bombs and tools that could be used to construct IEDs.

Burguan noted that the couple were well-equipped to carry out another attack. He added that Farook had no criminal record that police were aware of.

The New York Times reported that the FBI had uncovered evidence that Farook was in communication with multiple Islamic extremists both in the US and abroad over the course of several years, among them at least one individual who was a terrorism suspect.




Terrible day for the US free speech and the United States news media, we basically have to go to nutty online blogs and forums and go to overseas news sites like RToday, basically the USSR Pravda news of today
It is a sad day for truth and free news speech, I never thought I would see the today where I be going to a Ruskie newspaper finding truth about some islamo nutcases killing people in California

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Thursday, December 3, 2015 7:35 PM

JAYNEZTOWN



IED-making tools, Boston Bomber-style explosives and 4,500 bullets: The arsenal inside the home of the San Bernardino terror couple that could have cost as little as $4,000

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3345021/Twelve-pipe-bombs-4-50
0-bullets-tools-making-explosives-police-home-San-Bernardino-suspects-design-bomb-used-Boston-bombers.html


The radicalized Muslim and his Pakistani wife who killed 14 people in San Bernardino used the same designs as the Boston Bombers to put together 12 pipe bombs, reports suggest.

Police raided the home of US-born Syed Farook, 28, and Tashfeen Malik, 27, and found a chilling cache of 4,500 bullets they didn't use for the attack, and tools used to make explosives such as IEDS.

The armory they developed, which included the 1,600 bullets and four weapons they took to the scene of the shootout with police, could have cost them as little as $4,000.

The pair seemed to be using blueprints found in many issues of Inspire, Al Qaeda's extremist online publication in the Arabian Peninsula.

The magazine in the past has outlined how to make the bomb from household goods and without using metal components. Articles have also encouraged lone-wolf attacks on the American 'super-rich' and published a 'kill list' of potential targets.



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Thursday, December 3, 2015 8:46 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


San Bernardino shooting: Syed Farook 'used social media to contact extremists watched by the FBI'

The FBI was last night treating America's latest massive shooting as a possible Islamist terror attack after investigators found a deadly arsenal at the home of the couple who killed 14 people and injured 21 others at a disabled people's centre.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/12030160/Ca
lifornia-shooting-Multiple-victims-reported-in-San-Bernardino-live.html


Farook, born in the US to a Pakistani family had worked at the centre for five years as a local authority environmental health inspector before turning on his colleagues in lethal fashion

The act was said to be out of character by survivors, who described Farook as a quiet man who appeared to be "living the American dream", according to the Los Angeles Times.

He was said to have travelled to Saudi Arabia in 2014 and returned with a new wife, Malik, whom he had met online. Malik is a citizen of Pakistan who was in America on a K-1 visa, according to the FBI.

Tashfeen Malik, the Pakistani-American woman killed in the San Bernardino shooting, was able to enter the U.S. through a visa program for foreigners engaged to American citizens, according to federal government sources.

Chris Christie, the Republican presidential candidate, said:

Quote I am convinced that was a terrorist attack.

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Thursday, December 3, 2015 10:54 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


We'll probably find out more later, but ...

You don't know San Bernardino like I know San Bernardino, I suspect. When I first moved to California, one of my co-workers who lived there told me people called it San Ber'draino'. There's a lot of poverty and extreme people off in that direction - bikers, gangs, 'desert rats', drugs, prostitution.

It's possible the man got disillusioned with the people around him and tried to find a more holy way to live, which led to him becoming more extreme. I can imagine him becoming profoundly alienated from the society he was living in.


One of the people who was killed, Thalasinos, was apparently quite a vocal Zionist. Or maybe Farook was working with some adamant Christians who made the workplace into alien, unwelcoming territory. Or both, or something else. He seems to have become isolated from his co-workers, exchanging pleasantries, but little else.

Certainly there are people who prey on those like Farook, who would use him as another pawn, fanning discontent and promising an answer.

This was a Christmas ('holiday') party. He left angry, and came back with his wife, guns and a plan they put into action. There was something about work, about his interactions with people there, and I suspect about religion that coalesced into this violence. I don't think it was primarily driven by radical Islam, or political. I think he's a man who just snapped.




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Thursday, December 3, 2015 11:24 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
..driven by radical Islam, or political. I think he's a man who just snapped.



Ummm. No. Neighbors said they've been getting hella lot of odd packages and acting weird. No one leaves a party and just happens to find $4000 worth of guns ammo and complicated rigged explosives in TWO HOURS.

No matter the reason, this was planned out for a WHILE. And whether they were part of a cell or not, they knew what they were about to do and what it would look like. If it looks like jihad and walks like jihad and yells "ahlalalalalala"...... it MUST BE JIHAD.

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Thursday, December 3, 2015 11:31 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"No matter the reason, this was planned out for a WHILE. If it looks like jihad ..."

But it doesn't. Not to me. Jihad targets maximum causalities of strangers, targets of maximum effect. It's strategic. This targeted a small, isolated gathering of people - co-workers, people he knew. He could have found much more damaging targets, like Ontario National Airport. Or the Inland Center, a large mall area. Hey, it's shopping season - right?

It wouldn't be the first time a mentally unbalanced person associated with, and found a rationale through, an extremist position. For example Jared Lee Loughner ('Gabby' Giffords' shooter).

ETA: It's always possible we'll find that his strain of violence had deep and enduring contacts with radical Islam. At this point, with the information available, to me he looks more like a pawn and less like a player.




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Friday, December 4, 2015 1:07 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Also, fwiw no armor or body cams. They did wear 'tactical gear' which allowed them to carry ammo.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/12/03/458277103/san-bernar
dino-shootings-what-we-know-one-day-after


Both were dressed in "tactical gear" (including load-bearing vests, but not ballistic or bulletproof vests) and carrying .223-caliber assault-style rifles and semiautomatic handguns, police say..


Man, you guys will believe anything if it fits some fantasy you already heave in your head.





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Friday, December 4, 2015 2:07 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


You seem to be trifling on what they were WEARING. No one here cares...

Hello, PIPE BOMBS=PLANNING.

This just might have been an opportune moment, but they meant to do what they did and where they did it to MAKE IT PERSONAL. They even took the kid to relatives and burned hard drives. They were going to do something at some point no matter what.

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Friday, December 4, 2015 3:56 PM

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... fully loaded, safety off...


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
You seem to be trifling on what they were WEARING. No one here cares...

Hello, PIPE BOMBS=PLANNING.

This just might have been an opportune moment, but they meant to do what they did and where they did it to MAKE IT PERSONAL. They even took the kid to relatives and burned hard drives. They were going to do something at some point no matter what.



Yes! Trivial distinction at best between armor and tactical gear anyway, and as has been the case for years, the various media outlets have to rush to compete with live news/net so they make a lot of mistakes.
I would guess the couple was going to do something else and THANK GOD, someone insulted him at the holiday party and his plans changed - perhaps he felt 2 birds with one stone, let's go for it.
I have heard one of his family's lawyers try and hint that maybe this was all a set-up, that something doesn't feel right, like everything was planted, that this wasn't like him. So get ready for plenty of conspiracy theories.

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