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Friday, September 23, 2016 2:03 AM
SHINYGOODGUY
Friday, September 23, 2016 10:58 PM
Saturday, September 24, 2016 12:04 AM
THX
Saturday, September 24, 2016 3:45 PM
JO753
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Saturday, September 24, 2016 5:19 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Here we go: The Tulsa police officer who shot an unarmed man has been brought up on charges.
Quote: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/tulsa-oklahoma-police-officer-charged-in-mans-death/ar-BBwsT9V?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp
Quote: Even the Donald has chirped his response. SGG
Sunday, September 25, 2016 4:46 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Here we go: The Tulsa police officer who shot an unarmed man has been brought up on charges. I have been wondering why this subject has not been posted here yet. I was eventually going to open one, but kept getting busy. Quote: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/tulsa-oklahoma-police-officer-charged-in-mans-death/ar-BBwsT9V?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp Initial reports I saw said that it was the U.S. Attorney who brought charges, not the locally elected Prosecutor. It seems unclear which is the actual case. As a U.S. Attorney, it would be just another Obamabot corruption of the Injustice Department, and Obamination's racist demagoguery. It does seem uncontested that the reason charges were brought were to reduce friction and tension with the public, to quell riot fears. She might have her charges dropped in a few weeks, once the OJ mania settles down. Quote: Even the Donald has chirped his response. SGG Big whoop for Trump - not a big voice for Justice or Honest Deliberation. From the very first reports I heard about this, it sounded like the media was working feverishly to paint a false picture. He had his hands up? That would suggest the police had not released him told him to take off. He was walking away from the cops while they had their weapons pointed towards him? That sounds like non-compliance, non-adherence to directives or orders, uncooperation with the police, and disobedience, or resisting arrest, which his record shows that he has tremendous practice with. He is trying to gain control of a deadly weapon, in defiance of police orders? Not only was he walking away from police, he appeared to be trying to gain control of a deadly weapon - namely, his vehicle. How many of us want the police to just let the criminal leave without being detained, with a dead body in the vehicle, or a bound victim ready for murder in the vehicle? Should the police let go the next Ted Bundy when he is not cooperative? The next Jeffery Dahmer when he doesn't succumb? The next Joel Rifkin that police encounter, should they do the opposite and let him take off and continue his killing spree, after only 17 murders (the 17th corpse in his vehicle)? There is a reason many of us do not want police to just let criminals go merely because they are uncooperative, and expect people to abide police commands by not resisting every time they get caught. Now it turns out that he was a career criminal thug, a few months out of prison for almost a decade, habitual obstructor of justice, apparently always resisted arrests, and on PCP at the time of his death - while Officer Shelby was trained in the detection of PCP consumers. How is it the media has neglected to mention all of the PCP found in his vehicle? Also, have any of you seen somebody on PCP, dealing with Law Enforcement or even bouncers? Bullets normally do not stop them, let alone stun guns - no wonder the taser had no effect. And he has 5 open and active warrants for his arrest? All since his release from prison in May? http://conservativetribune.com/truth-crutcher-bad-for-media/ http://www.worldnewspolitics.com/2016/09/21/breaking-truth-terence-crutcher-comes-bad-media/ http://heavy.com/news/2016/09/terence-terrence-terance-crutcher-officer-betty-shelby-tulsa-oklahoma-black-man-shot-unarmed-video-family-photos-car/
Sunday, September 25, 2016 5:09 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Monday, September 26, 2016 2:20 AM
Monday, September 26, 2016 3:48 AM
Monday, September 26, 2016 4:15 AM
Monday, September 26, 2016 4:36 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: By the way, did you hear anything about the Tulsa protests? Exactly! SGG
Monday, September 26, 2016 4:39 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Police don't know who they're dealing with - nor should they. The only thing that can justify the use of deadly force is if the person poses a deadly threat IN THAT INSTANT. You've made the argument that JUST BECAUSE SOME GANG MEMBERS (who happened to be black) were guilty of a crime at some other time, we should assume that THIS man (who happened to be black), at some different time, was also guilty of - something. (And may I remind you that gang members comes in all different colors - even white.) And now you seem to be saying that shooting this man was justified BECAUSE of his history. I assume the man was innocent until evidence shows otherwise. Because we've seen plenty of videos where completely innocent, non-threatening, unarmed black men were shot by police for no good reason. It does happen. I also assume the police were innocent until evidence shows otherwise. Right now there's no evidence either way.
Monday, September 26, 2016 8:00 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Here we go: The Tulsa police officer who shot an unarmed man has been brought up on charges. I have been wondering why this subject has not been posted here yet. I was eventually going to open one, but kept getting busy. Quote: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/tulsa-oklahoma-police-officer-charged-in-mans-death/ar-BBwsT9V?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp Initial reports I saw said that it was the U.S. Attorney who brought charges, not the locally elected Prosecutor. It seems unclear which is the actual case. As a U.S. Attorney, it would be just another Obamabot corruption of the Injustice Department, and Obamination's racist demagoguery. It does seem uncontested that the reason charges were brought were to reduce friction and tension with the public, to quell riot fears. She might have her charges dropped in a few weeks, once the OJ mania settles down. Quote: Even the Donald has chirped his response. SGG Big whoop for Trump - not a big voice for Justice or Honest Deliberation. From the very first reports I heard about this, it sounded like the media was working feverishly to paint a false picture. He had his hands up? That would suggest the police had not released him told him to take off. He was walking away from the cops while they had their weapons pointed towards him? That sounds like non-compliance, non-adherence to directives or orders, uncooperation with the police, and disobedience, or resisting arrest, which his record shows that he has tremendous practice with. He is trying to gain control of a deadly weapon, in defiance of police orders? Not only was he walking away from police, he appeared to be trying to gain control of a deadly weapon - namely, his vehicle. How many of us want the police to just let the criminal leave without being detained, with a dead body in the vehicle, or a bound victim ready for murder in the vehicle? Should the police let go the next Ted Bundy when he is not cooperative? The next Jeffery Dahmer when he doesn't succumb? The next Joel Rifkin that police encounter, should they do the opposite and let him take off and continue his killing spree, after only 17 murders (the 17th corpse in his vehicle)? There is a reason many of us do not want police to just let criminals go merely because they are uncooperative, and expect people to abide police commands by not resisting every time they get caught. Now it turns out that he was a career criminal thug, a few months out of prison for almost a decade, habitual obstructor of justice, apparently always resisted arrests, and on PCP at the time of his death - while Officer Shelby was trained in the detection of PCP consumers. How is it the media has neglected to mention all of the PCP found in his vehicle? Also, have any of you seen somebody on PCP, dealing with Law Enforcement or even bouncers? Bullets normally do not stop them, let alone stun guns - no wonder the taser had no effect. And he has 5 open and active warrants for his arrest? All since his release from prison in May? http://conservativetribune.com/truth-crutcher-bad-for-media/ http://www.worldnewspolitics.com/2016/09/21/breaking-truth-terence-crutcher-comes-bad-media/ http://heavy.com/news/2016/09/terence-terrence-terance-crutcher-officer-betty-shelby-tulsa-oklahoma-black-man-shot-unarmed-video-family-photos-car/
Monday, September 26, 2016 10:34 PM
Tuesday, September 27, 2016 2:40 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Tuesday, September 27, 2016 2:50 AM
Tuesday, September 27, 2016 4:26 AM
Tuesday, September 27, 2016 4:48 AM
Tuesday, September 27, 2016 5:05 AM
Wednesday, September 28, 2016 3:50 AM
Quote:and not a single black person is talking about her for straight up murdering a civilian with nothing more than saying "I was afraid".
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: No offense, SGG, but I'm not going to read any of your BS. In most jurisdictions, Almost EVERYWHERE, there is no such thing as "hate crimes" or that bullshit. A fucking crime is a crime is a crime is a crime..... That very young white woman in Tulsa is going to court for manslaughter, and not a single black person is talking about her for straight up murdering a civilian with nothing more than saying "I was afraid". Last week, she was on paid suspension. Now she's being tried for manslaughter. It's on good citizens like you to make sure that she gets convicted. "You're snoring......" "Sorry" In the Meantime...... While you're looking left, man-cub, you're not watching Obama commit us to World War fucking III on the right... Do Right, Be Right. :)
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