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How Trump is already failing

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Saturday, November 12, 2016 6:36 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


People are just itching to discuss Trump's failings already. So here is the thread that many seem to want so badly.

Open season!

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Saturday, November 12, 2016 6:39 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


TPP already dead.

We likely avoided Nuclear War with Russia, at least for 7 weeks.




Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, November 12, 2016 6:43 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Hmmm .... looks like there needs to be a thread where Trump is succeeding too! Like here! http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60998



"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

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Saturday, November 12, 2016 6:51 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

But this isn't a Dem v GOP issue, because the Repub party faces the same problem: It's leadership is tied to the wealthy just as much as the Dems, and if the GOP- with Trump as its new mascot- fails to bring meaningful improvement to people's lives, all hell will break loose - again. - SIGNY

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Trump has already failed you, Sygnym. All hell should break loose today. It is in America’s Interest that it knows what Trump has planned for Americans.
Though it was obscured from the voters during the campaign, Trump has a very clear stated agenda on finance, and it’s a bonanza of tax cuts and massive deregulation.
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/9/13573294/donald-trump-financ
ial-regulation
Similarly, Trump’s plan for economically struggling whites is to drastically reduce their income by signing Paul Ryan’s plan to roll back the social welfare state.
/ www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/9/13572172/donald-trump-white-
working-class- SECOND

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SECOND - Firstly, Trump's policies are something we should hear from the Trump administration, not something we should hear from a hostile source.
Secondly, I intend to take the discussion in a very different direction. While Trump's policies deserve discussion, I'm going to look at this from a NONPARTISAN POV.
Feel free to bitch and kvetch about Trump all you want - I'm sure there will be PLENTY to bitch about* - but not in this thread http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60986 . You can start an infinite number of OTHER threads for your purpose of bagging on Trump, 'mkay?

*I'm going to judge Trump's performance on the three things, and ONLY the three things, that I voted for:

1) Ending our pointless wars and making nice with Russia and everybody else. That means reining in the CIA and the State Dept and their endless "interventionism" abroad. And good luck with THAT, Donald!

2) Backing out of the "free trade" agreements that we seem to have negotiated in favor of the transnationals. The only trade agreement that I might be willing to let stand is the WTO ... and maybe not even that.

3) Getting rid of illegal immigration and deporting illegal immigrants.

I don't expect Trump to make a lick of sense on climate change, I doubt VERY much that he will be able to materially increase manufacturing in the USA because his policy is incomplete, and healthcare is going to be a nightmare.
But this whole discussion belongs elsewhere.- SIGNY



And so, it was moved from there http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60986 to here!





"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

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Sunday, November 13, 2016 1:31 AM

JO753

rezident owtsidr

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Sunday, November 13, 2016 11:45 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

http://www.smh.com.au/world/us-election/hotline-to-moscow-bank-reveale
d-as-fbi-probe-kremlins-fiveyear-trump-plan-20161101-gsfcay.html
- JO

At this point in time with so much Trump backlash, I know that the billion or so media outlets in the world will be taking advantage of that sentiment and posting little tasty morsels like this to satisfy our appetites. I hope it's true but I'll remain a skeptic until I see more. Having said that... I don't doubt he has done plenty of scandalous things that are making him shake, that will come to light in the first 100 days.- G



Already reported and discussed b4 the election.



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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

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Sunday, November 13, 2016 2:01 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Good! Let's keep it alive for the sake of the country.- G
difficult to do, since the server has gone silent, and with no ongoing communication it's impossible to understand who was communicating with whom. For all I know, Melania Trump was transferring her wealth for the day when she becomes another "ex"wife.



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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

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Tuesday, November 15, 2016 8:13 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I don't know if any of this is true, but personally, I feel Trump is failing if he appoints a Supreme Court Justice that is so far "Right" that he will try to overturn Row vs. Wade.

Anybody who paid attention to my previous posts here in the last half year knows what I think. "She Who Shall Not Be Named" aborted my kid without any input from me whatsoever and I pretty much have hated Women ever since. Meanwhile, my best friend wanted an abortion and didn't get one. She then used the courts to milk money out of him for the next 18 years even though she moved 100 miles away, got remarried, didn't need his money anymore and never let him see his own kid until he finally spent enough money on a third lawyer that was good enough to at least grant him one weekend per month.




My opinion on Supreme Court Justices is that he should find somebody 100% in support of the 2nd amendment, but basically a centrist (Constitutionalist) in all other aspects of the law.

This would keep a majority of his support happy, while also giving hope to everyone screaming that "WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!" on the left as well.


THAT is how much I believe in the 2nd Amendment.

I'm willing to negotiate on things to make everyone moderately happy.

Even something that means something that much to me at the core of my being.


Obama never did that, and yet nobody really noticed. If he couldn't pass something with Congress, or couldn't be bothered to even ask, he just signed an Executive Order. Everyone was so in love with him they didn't even question him on any of it.

Besides.... GWB started it after the Patriot Act.






Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, November 20, 2016 8:51 PM

WISHIMAY


Dear Shit-for-brains Conservatives.

I hope the next four years get so bad that the backlash lasts another hundred years.

I hope you all become the NEW second class citizens. I hope you can't get jobs, housing, or wedding cakes. I hope Zika learns to attack your one brain cell and you become the zombies on the outside that you are on the inside.

LEAVE MY GAYS ALONE, YOU COWARDS. I would rather live with 100 of them than just ONE of you morons.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/house-lgbt-amendment-discriminat
ion-fight-223366


(PS, Yes, I know this was from six months ago, but it popped up again tonight like a bad omen.)

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Monday, November 21, 2016 2:51 AM

WISHIMAY


And you know what...while I'm on the subject...


Y'all are Cunts.

And Niggers..


Fuck your tree swinging nigger lovin' ways.

Blah blah something that happened to me, but not really that was horrible blah blah but soo happy I'm single blah blah.


SEE WHAT YOU LOOK LIKE, JACK? DOES THIS LOOK FAMILLIAR TO YOU??


But yeah, women are awful because they won't let me knock them up while I sit around on my ass complaining about me teeth and being a welfare
nigger ...

But I neeeeeeeeeed to post every obnoxious youtube video I've ever seen while I get drunk on cheap beer and try to convince everyone what a genius I am. I don't know shit about shit, but I'm loud and annoying and persistent in my ignorance, so they have to listen right???

Meanwhile my prospects dwindle ever day while I sit and talk about myself...
and touch myself, there's LOT's of touching myself...


Jack you are a douche. Probably the most deluded douche I've ever seen. It could be so easy to blame mental illness, but I think under it you're just an idiot. No one talks to you because they smell the fucking crazy off you a mile away, and they don't want to get caught up in it...

That Rappy, Riverlove, and JSF are ALSO conservatives prove my point to a TEE. You all have some major mental issues, but still think EVERYONE needs to do what you say....even though y'all fucking NUTS But, hey, ya got followers into your deluded douchedom. Literally HALF the country are fascist lovers. Seething IDS, masturbating to their hate-froth. Must feel good to have such benevolent company, right? To know your hate is the "right" side to be on, huh?

Fucking Jedi's would MURDER YOU ALL IN YOUR SLEEP, you dishonorable freaks.


You are all stupid angry cunts that have NO FUCKING CLUE WHAT YOU ACTUALLY NEEED TO BE ANGRY AT.


Except... Mommy said Gays are bad. Have to spank the gays.

Oh no that sounded dirty, don't wash my mouth out with soap, mommy!!



Paranoia, fear, and stupidity and ZERO facts to back any of it up with.

You follow a STONE AGE book of wisdom that advocates rediculous punishments for eating shellfish or wearing bells on your toes or mixing fabrics...


BECAUSE THAT WAS THE SHIT THAT THE MENTALLY ILL STONE AGE FUCK WORRIED ABOUT.

THERE IS NO "GOD" you MORONS.

Actually there is five times the evidence that we are in a Matrix than there ever was that any "God" anywhere EVER existed.

But keep following the stupid people, 'cause it has RULES that make no damn sense, but we have to have RULES...

Mommy said.

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Monday, November 21, 2016 7:47 AM

REAVERFAN


Well said.

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Monday, November 21, 2016 1:42 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I don't think Jack is religious. He has many proble fault issues, but religion doesn't seem to be one of them.




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Monday, November 21, 2016 2:54 PM

THGRRI


Wow wishie, I guess you had something to say; and did.

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Monday, November 21, 2016 3:16 PM

WISHIMAY


Tired of tip-toeing. He ain't getting it...

Was nice to have the "filter" off for an hour. Don't understand how anyone could do that on a daily basis, though. Too much effort.




(I don't think Jack is religious)

That was just my rant. Dealing with religious idiots for the next month makes me want to scream. We always went to Florida for winter break for like... 15 years of my childhood because my parents couldn't deal with the commercialistic crap either. I never have gotten used to the noise...

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Monday, November 21, 2016 6:24 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Believe it or not, I try to do helpful, proactive, positive things on a daily basis - not because I'm kindly, or religious, but because it's what I can do at that moment to make the world a better place. But when people acknowledge it with a 'god bless you' it grates on my nerves. I wish I could tell them the world would be a better place with less self-serving religion and more action.

Aside from me thinking you were calling Jack religious, I found your post refreshing and a quite eloquent rant.




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Monday, November 21, 2016 7:24 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:

Aside from me thinking you were calling Jack religious, I found your post refreshing and a quite eloquent rant.




Um, ok. Thanks, I think.

I just hope he can see that he needs to move on with his life.

And for what it's worth, I bought environment plates for our new vehicle.

Yay for the environment!

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Monday, November 21, 2016 8:31 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


And YAY ! for you.




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Tuesday, November 22, 2016 2:54 PM

WISHIMAY


Yeah, I didn't think the media "meeting" with the Groper would go well.
I honestly think he's always wanted to scream at the media for deigning to call him out, and he just took this as a chance to wanker off in public...


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3961228/F-Emotional-TV-anchors
-execs-hit-bluffing-blowhard-Trump-turning-media-summit-showdown-Monday.html


"After hearing Trump's criticisms of the media, one participant said the President-elect 'truly doesn’t seem to understand the First Amendment'

'He thinks we are supposed to say what he says and that’s it.'

'He is like this all the time. He’ll freeze you out and then be nice and humble and sort of want you to like him,' said the participant

HELLO, PERSONALITY DISORDER.

And it sounds like Conway took a Xanax beforehand...



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