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Trump Changes NASA Focus From Junk/Climate Science To Real Science

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Saturday, July 1, 2017 5:29 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Like Space Travel.

http://www.thegwpf.com/nasa-budget-shifts-focus-from-climate-science-t
o-space-exploration
/

https://thelibertarianrepublic.com/new-nasa-budget-shifts-focus-climat
e-science-space-exploration
/

NASA resort to Space Science (or any other Real Science) instead of drumming up fake reports of climate science?
That's just crazy talk.

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Saturday, July 1, 2017 5:59 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Space travel is a fantasy. They've figured out that humans really don't do well physically the more time they spend in space ... and then, the cosmic rays will get you.

None of these physical problems are remotely fixable at present, even though god knows, they've tried to ameliorate the bone thinning, muscle weakness and cardiovascular deconditioning by strapping people tightly against treadmills with bands to exercise (though that does nothing for the dizziness, brain swelling, and other problems). And they've blown off even trying to shield space travelers from cosmic rays as scientifically impossible. Also, they have no ingenious ideas for future trials.




Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Saturday, July 1, 2017 8:55 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


Well, lookee there...something we both agree on.

We might make it to Mars once, but we ain't getting out of this solar system unless we get handed the tech by aliens or something.

We need to focus on fixing the PEOPLE on this planet more than ANYTHING.



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Saturday, July 1, 2017 9:56 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Hey - wonder of wonders. We DO agree on something!




Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Sunday, July 2, 2017 8:52 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



I do hope that we're continuing to make NASA remind all those Muslim nations how great their contributions to science are and to help them feel better about themselves !!



NOT

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Monday, July 3, 2017 8:50 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


If everybody is agreeing, does that kill the thread?

Is This Trump's way of bringing everybody together?

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Thursday, July 6, 2017 6:43 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

I do hope that we're continuing to make NASA remind all those Muslim nations how great their contributions to science are and to help them feel better about themselves !!



NOT

Have you one of those handy linkys for fleshing out your comment?

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Thursday, July 6, 2017 9:05 PM

OONJERAH


Handy linkys:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_alphabet
"The history of alphabetic writing goes back to the consonantal
writing system used for Semitic languages in the Levant in the 2nd
millennium BCE. Most or nearly all alphabetic scripts used throughout
the world today ..."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_mathematics
"The most ancient mathematical texts available are Plimpton 322
(Babylonian c. 1900 BC), the Rhind Mathematical Papyrus (Egyptian
c. 2000–1800 BC) and the Moscow Mathematical Papyrus (Egyptian
c. 1890 BC). All of these texts concern the so-called Pythagorean
theorem, which seems to be the most ancient and widespread math-
ematical development after basic arithmetic and geometry."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cradle_of_civilization
"The cradle of civilization refers to locations where, according
to current archaeological data, civilization is understood to have
emerged. Current thinking is that there was no single "cradle",
but several civilizations that developed independently, with the
Fertile Crescent (Mesopotamia and Ancient Egypt) understood to be
the earliest. Other civilizations arose" ...

Oonj sayeth: Other civilizations arose concurrently in Asia &
America.
Fairly advanced cultures in both North & South America flourished
for centuries ... then fell into ruin. I don't know why.

They lacked horse-power, could be a drag.



... oooOO}{OOooo ...

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Friday, July 7, 2017 5:42 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


The climate has changed and some of this change has been man-made

...in regard to culture, history, religion
I have come to the conslusion that islam, is a horrible religious political cult system founded by an insane war mongering pedophile slaver named mohammed...and that the 'islamic golden age' is highly over-rated

Climate Science is Real, to say it is Fake is both ignorant and stupid....however that is not to say there are poltical aghendas running, some deny mankind can pollute the enviornment, while others over-exaggerate the problem creating a hyped up doomsday tomorrow type scenario

So how did the Western world, United States of America, Europe, the USA, the Western European culture get so far ahead when all these ancient cultures knew so much. The basica European is said to have come from an ancient upright man...who was once monkey...an upright man with tools and language from Africa? maybe North Africa into the Middle East, into India, the Cacuss maountains of Asia, South Russia, into mainland Europe. They are Iceage peoples born of hardships during the last Great Climate Change? Born during the last Ice Ages as the Missoula Floods and giant Glacial Seas burst ripping open holes in the lands, a time Geologists refer to the Great Anicent Ages of Ice and Snow and Anicent Cataclysmic floods.

So in ancient times cilivsation knew many things, Europe was still barbarian, running around with spears, bones, tibal, hunting....yet in the Far East Asia, in parts of India, Assyrian land, Mesopotamia,
Babylon, Egyptian land, China people were using science, building temples, using math, creating devices...and in Europe existed a tribal peoples, ice cold, light skin, fair skinned, golden yellow haired, brown hair, fair wooden color hair, red firey hair, blue eyed, orange cooper eyes, silver grey eyes, green eyes....different primitie tribes. European DNA may be something kind of 'Unique' a population genetics with autosomal, Y-chromosomal, traits of mitochondrial DNA, ancient-human DNA details dawn of Neanderthals who would later mix and breed with other Europeans finally dying out as an old caveman Spain but continuing in the blood of Europeans, closely related to a group called Denisovans — known from remains found thousands of kilometres away in East Asian or Siberia....these Europeans were still a type of barabarian caveman primitive.

Slowly Europe embraces 'Civilisation' the wandering Tribes of women and men grow to sdomething else, Barbarians, Hunters ...they modernize, Greeks come, Germanic Tribes, the Celts, Etruscans, the Romans and the City of Rome, Merovingian Franks....cultures conquer Europe, first the old Gods of tribalism and first Big Civilisation the Greeks, Zeus, Hera, Posiedon, Hermes. Next Rome with New Gods same as the Old but with new names Jupiter, Mars, Venus, Neptune...but at the same time man pagan, tribal cultures existed, the no mans land of Slavic areas, the Viking culture. What Greek and Roman culture did bring was a period of science, philospohy and enlightenment. Rome eventually goes Christian, Europe reconquer for Christendom. Next Rome falls, the Eastern Roman Empire Byzantine falls, a new religion foudned by a war monger pedophile psychopath named Mohammed comes from the Middle East, a religiion of jihad called 'Islam' Spain gets attacked by muslims and in East Europe a different type of islamist jihad invades, cutting and beheading its way through the Balkans and Eastern Europe.

Looking at Europe they were so far behind, but next comes a re-birth of science and philosphy the Renaisance, Michelangelo di Lodovico Buonarroti, Reformation, the Ages of Exploration and the Industrial Revolution....No Doubt North America was already known, Native Tribes existed and a series of civilisations in Meso America, Maya, Aztec, Inca, Cahokia a possible ancient North American city, it was also possible tribes of eskimo siberians inuits were making the crossing from Asia to America or Europe to America, also evidence to show Scandanavian or Viking Culture or China or ancient Chinese culture arrived earlier on US shores. However the new competing Europe brings an age of enlightenmenty, competiotion, exploration, conquest and imperialism, Ferdinand Magellan, Vasco da Gama, Captain Cook, Lewis and Clark, Christopher Columbus worked out pretty shit for the Native American but it establishes the White Anglo Saxon British Culture and the Spanish Latin Europe cultures as the dominant force the past 2-3 Century.

The fact the West, the USA or Europe caught up so quick just goes to show how far and how quick they came.


America the the Western world was born during this age of thinking, hardship, colonisation, science conquest and exploration...that is what NASA is origainally made as, EXPLORERES in competition with the Soveits during the science Race of the ColdWar era

The Middle East once had great Civilisations but Islam sets it backward thousands of years, islam itself is an Intellectual Corpse, known for Islamic Anti Science - many of islam's inventions are flasely claimed as so, instead they were looted and hijacked by stealers, killers and dumb islamist bandits, they invetions and science were infact Babylonian, Egyptian, Persian, maybe the Moongod worshiper stole from Hindu Vedic culture? we do know Islam STOLE or HIJACKED almost all its science and inventions from other cultures, a notable figure in Islamic Anti Science - al Hammad Abu Ghazali and his Math is the Work of the Devil marks a rapdid decline in the Middle East science as pointed out so famously by Neil deGrasse Tyson? Islamic interpretations forcing its way into social system, life, law, more of a cult not just a religion, the islamic 'culture' rises and science and debate slowly dies, the religion of a war monger pedoophile prophet only goes so far, next the Mongol Sack of Baghdad, the Collapse of the Fatimid Caliphate, and the Spanish Reconquista, what happens when a Moongod al Lah culture takes over, people see the Quran or Koran as the perfect book and think a war monger pedophile prpphet to be the perfect man, islam has sent the region backward thousands of years

As for Western nations, the USA, Japan, European nations, Israel, S.Korea and Russia if you accept Russia as 'Western'? They are all leaders in the scientific, now lead the world in math, biology, science. NASA has used this science and sateliites to study the effect on our enviornment, the atmospehere, the climate, pollution, taking measurement, looking from space into the details of our planet. Measurments can be taken watching Earth, examining climate change, looking outward at our Sun, look at different spectra of the Planet, the Magnetospehere, taking data on the Atmospehere, noting Pollution, watching Climate Change and mapping decades of global warming. Global average temperature goes from heat record to heat record, yet the sun is at its dimmest for half a century.


No doubt if trends continue it may eventually lead to impacts on civlisations, more floods, more droughts, more storms, more forest fires, there are still peoples and culture who live near the coasts at low sea levels

What changes will happen to these peoples


NASA must continue with its age of exploration, costs of economic and political corruptions, the huge spending on War and the costly loss of Shuttle has allowed otehrs like the Indians and Chinese catch up, also competition from Europe, Russia, Japan...and Space is Big Business... so NASA must keep its edge in exploration and science

but it also must continue using that very same science back home on Earth and to minitor the enviornment

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Friday, July 7, 2017 7:22 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

I do hope that we're continuing to make NASA remind all those Muslim nations how great their contributions to science are and to help them feel better about themselves !!



NOT

Have you one of those handy linkys for fleshing out your comment?



You're joking, right ? Do you honestly need a link to remember this ?

Barack Obama: Nasa must try to make Muslims 'feel good'

The head of the Nasa has said Barack Obama told him to make "reaching out to the Muslim world" one of the space agency's top priorities.

By Toby Harnden in Washington 8:00PM BST 06 Jul 2010

Charles Bolden, a retired United States Marines Corps major-general and former astronaut, said in an interview with al-Jazeera that Nasa was not only a space exploration agency but also an "Earth improvement agency".

Mr Bolden said: "When I became the Nasa administrator, he [Mr Obama] charged me with three things.

"One, he wanted me to help reinspire children to want to get into science and math; he wanted me to expand our international relationships; and third, and perhaps foremost, he wanted me to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science, math, and engineering."

He added: "It is a matter of trying to reach out and get the best of all worlds, if you will, and there is much to be gained by drawing in the contributions that are possible from the Muslim [nations]."

Byron York, a conservative columnist for the Washington Examiner, characterised Mr Obama's space policy shift as moving "from moon landings to promoting self-esteem"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/space/7875584/Barack-Obama-Nas
a-must-try-to-make-Muslims-feel-good.html

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Friday, July 7, 2017 1:12 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

I do hope that we're continuing to make NASA remind all those Muslim nations how great their contributions to science are and to help them feel better about themselves !!



NOT

So dumb. Jesus.

Trump continues to deny indisputable science. It's a Republican thing. They hate facts.

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Friday, July 7, 2017 5:47 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Oonjerah:
Handy linkys:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_alphabet
"The history of alphabetic writing goes back to the consonantal
writing system used for Semitic languages in the Levant in the 2nd
millennium BCE. Most or nearly all alphabetic scripts used throughout
the world today ..."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_mathematics
"The most ancient mathematical texts available are Plimpton 322
(Babylonian c. 1900 BC), the Rhind Mathematical Papyrus (Egyptian
c. 2000–1800 BC) and the Moscow Mathematical Papyrus (Egyptian
c. 1890 BC). All of these texts concern the so-called Pythagorean
theorem, which seems to be the most ancient and widespread math-
ematical development after basic arithmetic and geometry."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cradle_of_civilization
"The cradle of civilization refers to locations where, according
to current archaeological data, civilization is understood to have
emerged. Current thinking is that there was no single "cradle",
but several civilizations that developed independently, with the
Fertile Crescent (Mesopotamia and Ancient Egypt) understood to be
the earliest. Other civilizations arose" ...

Oonj sayeth: Other civilizations arose concurrently in Asia &
America.
Fairly advanced cultures in both North & South America flourished
for centuries ... then fell into ruin. I don't know why.

They lacked horse-power, could be a drag.

You are claiming that Semites of 2000 BC, the Babylonians of 1900BC, Mesopotamia and Ancient Egypt(2000-1800BC) were all ruled by the Muslim Religion?

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Friday, July 7, 2017 5:50 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
I do hope that we're continuing to make NASA remind all those Muslim nations how great their contributions to science are and to help them feel better about themselves !!

NOT

Have you one of those handy linkys for fleshing out your comment?

You're joking, right ? Do you honestly need a link to remember this ?

Barack Obama: Nasa must try to make Muslims 'feel good'

The head of the Nasa has said Barack Obama told him to make "reaching out to the Muslim world" one of the space agency's top priorities.

By Toby Harnden in Washington 8:00PM BST 06 Jul 2010

Charles Bolden, a retired United States Marines Corps major-general and former astronaut, said in an interview with al-Jazeera that Nasa was not only a space exploration agency but also an "Earth improvement agency".

Mr Bolden said: "When I became the Nasa administrator, he [Mr Obama] charged me with three things.

"One, he wanted me to help reinspire children to want to get into science and math; he wanted me to expand our international relationships; and third, and perhaps foremost, he wanted me to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science, math, and engineering."

He added: "It is a matter of trying to reach out and get the best of all worlds, if you will, and there is much to be gained by drawing in the contributions that are possible from the Muslim [nations]."

Byron York, a conservative columnist for the Washington Examiner, characterised Mr Obama's space policy shift as moving "from moon landings to promoting self-esteem"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/space/7875584/Barack-Obama-Nas
a-must-try-to-make-Muslims-feel-good.html


I was not joking. Thanks for the help. I do recall myself the incidents, but trying to find interweb linkies via the Libtard search engines (Yahoo, google) can be tedious or impossible.
memory good. biased search engines bad.

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Friday, July 7, 2017 8:53 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

I do hope that we're continuing to make NASA remind all those Muslim nations how great their contributions to science are and to help them feel better about themselves !!



NOT

So dumb. Jesus.

Trump continues to deny indisputable science. It's a Republican thing. They hate facts.



Hey Dickweed, look 1 post above yours. The only thing ' dumb' is Obama's directions to NASA. Which I even cited, for your small minded convenience.

Learn it
Know it
Live it.

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Wednesday, August 23, 2017 11:29 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Tonight has Frost Advisory for Michigan, adjacent Wisconsin.

Must be Global Warming generating Climate Justice.

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Thursday, August 24, 2017 9:03 AM

6STRINGJOKER


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Tonight has Frost Advisory for Michigan, adjacent Wisconsin.

Must be Global Warming generating Climate Justice.



Frost Advisory in Michigan on August 23rd???

That's cultural appropriation of Canada and I don't think Brenda or Trudeau should stand for it!

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Thursday, August 24, 2017 1:37 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Tonight has Frost Advisory for Michigan, adjacent Wisconsin.

Must be Global Warming generating Climate Justice.

Frost Advisory in Michigan on August 23rd???

That's cultural appropriation of Canada and I don't think Brenda or Trudeau should stand for it!

perhaps they should oppose climate appropriation as well. We'll trade for restoration of Dairy commerce.

The Frost Advisory spanned from Lake Superior to the Wisconsin border, which spans 2 Time Zones.

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Thursday, August 24, 2017 2:47 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Tonight has Frost Advisory for Michigan, adjacent Wisconsin.

Must be Global Warming generating Climate Justice.



Frost Advisory in Michigan on August 23rd???

That's cultural appropriation of Canada and I don't think Brenda or Trudeau should stand for it!



Hurricane to hit Texas, in August !! OMG !! AlGORE WAS RIGHT !!!!

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Thursday, August 24, 2017 3:36 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Tonight has Frost Advisory for Michigan, adjacent Wisconsin.

Must be Global Warming generating Climate Justice.

Frost Advisory in Michigan on August 23rd???

That's cultural appropriation of Canada and I don't think Brenda or Trudeau should stand for it!

Hurricane to hit Texas, in August !! OMG !! AlGORE WAS RIGHT !!!!

algore has always been the opposite of right: Left and Wrong.

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Thursday, August 24, 2017 5:57 PM

6STRINGJOKER


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Tonight has Frost Advisory for Michigan, adjacent Wisconsin.

Must be Global Warming generating Climate Justice.


Frost Advisory in Michigan on August 23rd???

That's cultural appropriation of Canada and I don't think Brenda or Trudeau should stand for it!


Hurricane to hit Texas, in August !! OMG !! AlGORE WAS RIGHT !!!!

algore has always been the opposite of right: Left and Wrong.




lol algore


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Thursday, August 24, 2017 6:42 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them. Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


I'm pretty sure your don't have any idea what real science really is.

-----------
By the way, GSTRING, I predicted your response PERFECTLY
* ... and then you'll say I'm "too wordy". And then you will - as always- refuse to address the pertinent points, and respond with even more lies and even more bullshit personal attacks.*

And voila! Here it is http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61835&mid=1
035581#1035581

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Thursday, August 24, 2017 10:31 PM

RIVERLOVE



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Thursday, August 24, 2017 11:13 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Riverlove:


Riverlove making a steady run of Post of the Week.

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Thursday, August 31, 2017 8:51 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Tonight has Frost/Freeze Advisory for Forest and Florence Counties of Wisconsin, plus north in Michigan's Upper Peninsula.

Must be Global Warming.

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Thursday, August 31, 2017 9:20 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Tonight has Frost/Freeze Advisory for Forest and Florence Counties of Wisconsin, plus north in Michigan's Upper Peninsula.



Climate Change predicted that too.


But seriously, Irma is in the hurricane pipeline. Be afraid. Be very afraid.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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