Dinosaur Turkeys by JEWELSTAITEFAN

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Originally posted by Brenda:
The more we dig up Planet Earth the more of its ancient history will be found.

That's also a pretty interesting find.

No argument, but we've been digging for generations, and it seemed like new discoveries were slow going for quite a few years, and now there's a big spurt. I haven't heard of a cause for this ebb or flow.

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Saturday, July 29, 2017 9:49 PM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by Brenda:
The more we dig up Planet Earth the more of its ancient history will be found.

That's also a pretty interesting find.
No argument, but we've been digging for generations, and it seemed like new discoveries were slow going for quite a few years, and now there's a big spurt. I haven't heard of a cause for this ebb or flow.

Man has been finding neat fossils in the ground for a very long time, but only since the industrial revolution , when mining for ore and coal did we really begin to take serious note. And it really wasn't until the 1800's , when ' dinosauria ' was first coined by Sir Richard Owen.

Then there were the great Bone Wars in the western USA, primarily between 2 men, Edward Drinker Copeland and O.C. Marsh.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bone_Wars

We can credit the more recent works by Dr. John Ostrom and his student, Dr.Robert Bakker, for recognizing that dinosaurs weren't just big , slow, cold blooded lizards, but were closely related to birds, and were quite active.

And of course there's Jurassic Park , which made dinos top billing to the public. Interest creates a demand, and demands must be funded... so the more stuff we find, the more interest is generated. Museums will pay top dollar for a great specimen, and 'Sue' is a perfect example.

The almost complete skeleton of Corythoraptor jacobi, including its skull and jaw,...

Complete skeletons, with skull, are damn rare. That it's also a brand new species, only makes it more of a prize.

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Saturday, July 29, 2017 10:48 PM

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Hey... look at that....

The Brontosaurus is back, baby.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-brontosaurus-is-back1/

Now all we have to do is go back to calling Pluto a planet and me and Science can be friends again.

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Sunday, July 30, 2017 1:37 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

And here I was thinking this was Pluto.

Trump is not the problem. He set himself against the Deep State's agenda. And the Deep State's been heading for WWIII for years.
As for you, you're just a Deep State useful idiot, furthering its agenda. So I hope you enjoy cesium in your coffee. You've earned it.

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Sunday, July 30, 2017 3:45 AM

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lol...

Mickey Mouse is having a nasty divorce with Minnie Mouse. Mickey spoke to the judge about the separation. "I'm sorry Mickey, but I can't legally separate you two on the grounds that Minnie is mentally insane..." Mickey replied, "I didn't say she was mentally insane, I said that she's fucking Goofy!"

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Sunday, July 30, 2017 9:25 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Those big huge clavicles! And those itty bitty little front arms. What did she do with them? Pick her back two teeth? Scratch her neck? Helplessly clench her little fists in rage?

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Sunday, July 30, 2017 9:55 AM

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It is a mystery as to what T.Rex did w/ those smallish arms, but the crests on the bones, which is where tendons attached, indicate they were quite muscular. Maybe they were on the way out, evolutionary speaking, but I doubt those on the eating end of her jaws gave them too much thought.

And those jaws ? 2x as large as any other carnivore, which go a long way in making T.Rex's bite the strongest in the natural world.

There may have been carnivores that stood taller, or were longer, but none had the power as T.Rex did w/ those jaws. Not even close.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Sunday, July 30, 2017 10:04 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Speaking of T Rex - the latest is that they couldn't run. Their bone structure couldn't withstand the forces of running.

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Sunday, July 30, 2017 10:07 AM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Speaking of T Rex - the latest is that they couldn't run. Their bone structure couldn't withstand the forces of running.

Cite ? Dr. Bakker and an array of other studies would disagree.

* Oh, nvm. I see. Some random 'study' makes noise and everyone reports it. Fine. Great.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Sunday, July 30, 2017 10:32 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

https://peerj.com/articles/3420/

Investigating the running abilities of Tyrannosaurus rex using stress-constrained multibody dynamic analysis

Abstract

The running ability of Tyrannosaurus rex has been intensively studied due to its relevance to interpretations of feeding behaviour and the biomechanics of scaling in giant predatory dinosaurs. Different studies using differing methodologies have produced a very wide range of top speed estimates and there is therefore a need to develop techniques that can improve these predictions. Here we present a new approach that combines two separate biomechanical techniques (multibody dynamic analysis and skeletal stress analysis) to demonstrate that true running gaits would probably lead to unacceptably high skeletal loads in T. rex. Combining these two approaches reduces the high-level of uncertainty in previous predictions associated with unknown soft tissue parameters in dinosaurs, and demonstrates that the relatively long limb segments of T. rex—long argued to indicate competent running ability—would actually have mechanically limited this species to walking gaits. Being limited to walking speeds contradicts arguments of high-speed pursuit predation for the largest bipedal dinosaurs like T. rex, and demonstrates the power of multiphysics approaches for locomotor reconstructions of extinct animals.

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Sunday, July 30, 2017 11:03 AM

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Sunday, July 30, 2017 12:05 PM

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Dinosaur Turkeys is redundant.

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Monday, July 31, 2017 3:59 AM

I was thinking Sue was from the 90's. I've known a few people working that one.

The last year or maybe 2 I've been hearing about new species found, quite a bit I thought. But for 10 or 20 years it seemed I wasn't hearing much about big finds, or new species, or new locations - maybe the news was just too filtered, I've lost my gurus of the geologic digs.

I did take advantage of the Jurassic Park craze, which was actually preceeded (for kids) by Barney. And now perhaps the generation which were kids then have now sprouted into adult successes in archaeology. I recall T-Rex was orinth family, but were brontosaur as well? I forget the details now.

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Tuesday, August 1, 2017 5:44 PM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I was thinking Sue was from the 90's. I've known a few people working that one.

The last year or maybe 2 I've been hearing about new species found, quite a bit I thought. But for 10 or 20 years it seemed I wasn't hearing much about big finds, or new species, or new locations - maybe the news was just too filtered, I've lost my gurus of the geologic digs.

I did take advantage of the Jurassic Park craze, which was actually preceeded (for kids) by Barney. And now perhaps the generation which were kids then have now sprouted into adult successes in archaeology. I recall T-Rex was orinth family, but were brontosaur as well? I forget the details now.

News is always coming, but you just have to go looking for it. Thankfully, the internets is a great tool in helping do just that. No need to wait until Time or some big news outlet DECIDES that this or that is " newsworthy " for the public to hear... I have my browser to highlight certain topics, ' Dinosaurs 'being one of them, and then there's great stuff like TED talks, if you're willing to spend a few minutes checking out the YouTubes.

" Gurus " of Paleontology ... Mine are Robert Bakker, Jack Horner, Phil Currie, although they're getting up in age now. Paul Sereno is more of a 'today's ' cool fossil guy, sort of a cross between Indiana Jones and the late Steve Irwin. There are more, of course, but that's a good starting point for what to keep up with in the field.

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Tuesday, August 1, 2017 6:52 PM

I meant my personal gurus, people I knew who were doing the actual digging, or were Professors in between their digs.

Some of them have passed on now.

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Wednesday, August 2, 2017 11:25 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I meant my personal gurus, people I knew who were doing the actual digging, or were Professors in between their digs.

Some of them have passed on now.

All I listed do dig , or did... you're so into the field you know some personally? Cool. I've met Dr Bakker & he signed a couple of books to me, but that's about it for me.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Wednesday, August 2, 2017 6:37 PM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I meant my personal gurus, people I knew who were doing the actual digging, or were Professors in between their digs.

Some of them have passed on now.

All I listed do dig , or did... you're so into the field you know some personally? Cool. I've met Dr Bakker & he signed a couple of books to me, but that's about it for me.

I have not dug myself, but my cousins have. And another one was a Prof who gave a special behind-the-scenes (or display) tour, handing out actual real dino bones (mostly just fragments) to all the kids who showed up for the tour. This was in the mid-90s, when the fad was big.

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Wednesday, August 2, 2017 7:42 PM

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Oh cool ! I got to go behind the scenes at the Field Museum , when I went to go visit Sue. Saw the Beetle room...and some other cool stuff. Soooo many incredible items they have behind the curtain.

Thought about digging, but knowing me, I'd either really really get into it, or very much not like it. Pretty sure in an alternate universe, I was / am a full time paleo guy. But not here. Oh well.

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Monday, August 21, 2017 7:15 PM