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Netanyahu to Putin: Iran must withdraw from Syria or Israel will ‘defend itself’
Wednesday, August 23, 2017 9:34 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote: Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu has warned Russian President Vladimir Putin that Israel is prepared to intervene in Syria to counteract the Iranian influence in the conflict. Moscow, which views Iran as key to resolving the crisis, said it will note Israeli interests. When the two leaders met in Sochi on Wednesday, Netanyahu told Putin that any peace deal in Syria must entail the full withdrawal of any Iranian forces from the area. "Iran is already well on its way to controlling Iraq, Yemen and to a large extent is already in practice in control of Lebanon," Reuters quoted Netanyahu as saying. "We cannot forget for a single minute that Iran threatens every day to annihilate Israel." "Israel opposes Iran's continued entrenchment in Syria. We will be sure to defend ourselves with all means against this and any threat." Iran supports Syrian President Bashar Assad in the civil war that has been gripping the country for six years. Israel considers the Lebanese Shiite militant group Hezbollah to be little more than a proxy of Tehran, and fears a Syrian government victory will further amplify Iranian influence at its borders and give Tehran access to the Mediterranean. Israel publicly considers Iran an even bigger threat to its security than Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL). "It is not an exaggeration to think that within a certain period of time, the Islamic State will lose its territorial footholds in Syria,"said Netanyahu, as quoted by Haaretz. "There will be a much better prospect for cutting the current civil war short and preventing a future war if Iran is not in Syria." "I made it clear to Putin that Iran's establishing itself in Syria will not aid stability in the region, and I told him that we want to prevent a future war and therefore it is important to warn in advance." Israeli officials may be particularly concerned about an Iranian presence near the Golan Heights, a disputed territory between Israel and Syria, part of which is under Israeli occupation. In July, the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) opened fire on Syrian positions in response to two stray shells landing on the Israeli-claimed side.
Quote:The Israeli Air Force (IAF) have repeatedly carried out air strikes on the Syrian territory since the beginning of the Syrian conflict. In July, it was reported that Israel has carried out dozens of strikes in Syria, allegedly targeting Hezbollah arms convoys. Netanyahu seemingly admitted to that during a meeting with the prime ministers of Hungary, the Czech Republic, Poland and Slovakia. “We built the wall because there was a problem with ISIS and Iran trying to build a terror front [in the Golan Heights]. I told Putin, when we see them transferring weapons to Hezbollah, we will hurt them. We did it dozens of times," the Israeli prime minister said at that time, referring to an earlier meeting with the Russian president. In April, Reuters reported that the IAF targeted Hezbollah’s “arms supply hub” near Damascus Airport used to stockpile weapons and ammunition coming from Iran on “commercial and military cargo aircraft.” At that time, Israeli Intelligence Minister Israel Katz commented on the issue by saying that the incident in Syria “corresponds completely with Israel’s policy to act to prevent Iran's smuggling of advanced weapons via Syria to Hezbollah.” In March, the Russian Foreign Ministry summoned the Israeli ambassador to Moscow, Gary Koren, to demand explanations for the airstrikes Israel conducted near the Syrian city of Palmyra after the IDF warplanes hit several targets near the ancient city, allegedly destroying advanced arms provided to Hezbollah. In January, Damascus accused Tel Aviv of bombing the Mezzeh military airport west of the country’s capital. Putin has not publicly responded to Netanyahu’s comments about Iran, which Moscow considers a partner in maintaining the de-escalation zones in Syria. However, on Tuesday Russia’s ambassador to Israel Alexander Petrovich Shein said that it will keep Israeli interests in mind when dealing with Syria. "We take the Israeli interests in Syria into account," Shein told Channel One television. "Were it up to Russia, the foreign forces would not stay." At the same time, Russia repeatedly emphasized the importance of the role that Iran plays in Syria. The Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov particularly praised the trilateral cooperation between Russia, Iran, and Turkey as the most effective way of resolving the Syrian crisis, adding that “the Russia-Iran-Turkey ‘troika’ has proven with actual deeds that it is in demand.” After the Sochi meeting, Netanyahu flew back to Israel, where he is due to sit down with US President Donald Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner to discuss the Palestinian-Israeli peace process.
Wednesday, August 23, 2017 10:56 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu has warned Russian President Vladimir Putin that Israel is prepared to intervene in Syria to counteract the Iranian influence in the conflict. Moscow, which views Iran as key to resolving the crisis, said it will note Israeli interests. When the two leaders met in Sochi on Wednesday, Netanyahu told Putin that any peace deal in Syria must entail the full withdrawal of any Iranian forces from the area. "Iran is already well on its way to controlling Iraq, Yemen and to a large extent is already in practice in control of Lebanon," Reuters quoted Netanyahu as saying. "We cannot forget for a single minute that Iran threatens every day to annihilate Israel." "Israel opposes Iran's continued entrenchment in Syria. We will be sure to defend ourselves with all means against this and any threat." Iran supports Syrian President Bashar Assad in the civil war that has been gripping the country for six years. Israel considers the Lebanese Shiite militant group Hezbollah to be little more than a proxy of Tehran, and fears a Syrian government victory will further amplify Iranian influence at its borders and give Tehran access to the Mediterranean. Israel publicly considers Iran an even bigger threat to its security than Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL). "It is not an exaggeration to think that within a certain period of time, the Islamic State will lose its territorial footholds in Syria,"said Netanyahu, as quoted by Haaretz. "There will be a much better prospect for cutting the current civil war short and preventing a future war if Iran is not in Syria." "I made it clear to Putin that Iran's establishing itself in Syria will not aid stability in the region, and I told him that we want to prevent a future war and therefore it is important to warn in advance." Israeli officials may be particularly concerned about an Iranian presence near the Golan Heights, a disputed territory between Israel and Syria, part of which is under Israeli occupation. In July, the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) opened fire on Syrian positions in response to two stray shells landing on the Israeli-claimed side. I was told by a (Zionist) student worker who visited Israel that "everyone knows" that Israeli interest in the Golan Heights is about water. Quote:The Israeli Air Force (IAF) have repeatedly carried out air strikes on the Syrian territory since the beginning of the Syrian conflict. In July, it was reported that Israel has carried out dozens of strikes in Syria, allegedly targeting Hezbollah arms convoys. Netanyahu seemingly admitted to that during a meeting with the prime ministers of Hungary, the Czech Republic, Poland and Slovakia. “We built the wall because there was a problem with ISIS and Iran trying to build a terror front [in the Golan Heights]. I told Putin, when we see them transferring weapons to Hezbollah, we will hurt them. We did it dozens of times," the Israeli prime minister said at that time, referring to an earlier meeting with the Russian president. In April, Reuters reported that the IAF targeted Hezbollah’s “arms supply hub” near Damascus Airport used to stockpile weapons and ammunition coming from Iran on “commercial and military cargo aircraft.” At that time, Israeli Intelligence Minister Israel Katz commented on the issue by saying that the incident in Syria “corresponds completely with Israel’s policy to act to prevent Iran's smuggling of advanced weapons via Syria to Hezbollah.” In March, the Russian Foreign Ministry summoned the Israeli ambassador to Moscow, Gary Koren, to demand explanations for the airstrikes Israel conducted near the Syrian city of Palmyra after the IDF warplanes hit several targets near the ancient city, allegedly destroying advanced arms provided to Hezbollah. In January, Damascus accused Tel Aviv of bombing the Mezzeh military airport west of the country’s capital. Putin has not publicly responded to Netanyahu’s comments about Iran, which Moscow considers a partner in maintaining the de-escalation zones in Syria. However, on Tuesday Russia’s ambassador to Israel Alexander Petrovich Shein said that it will keep Israeli interests in mind when dealing with Syria. "We take the Israeli interests in Syria into account," Shein told Channel One television. "Were it up to Russia, the foreign forces would not stay." At the same time, Russia repeatedly emphasized the importance of the role that Iran plays in Syria. The Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov particularly praised the trilateral cooperation between Russia, Iran, and Turkey as the most effective way of resolving the Syrian crisis, adding that “the Russia-Iran-Turkey ‘troika’ has proven with actual deeds that it is in demand.” After the Sochi meeting, Netanyahu flew back to Israel, where he is due to sit down with US President Donald Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner to discuss the Palestinian-Israeli peace process. https://www.rt.com/news/400702-bibi-putin-iranian-presence-syria/
Wednesday, August 23, 2017 10:59 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu has warned Russian President Vladimir Putin that Israel is prepared to intervene in Syria to counteract the Iranian influence in the conflict. Moscow, which views Iran as key to resolving the crisis, said it will note Israeli interests. When the two leaders met in Sochi on Wednesday, Netanyahu told Putin that any peace deal in Syria must entail the full withdrawal of any Iranian forces from the area. "Iran is already well on its way to controlling Iraq, Yemen and to a large extent is already in practice in control of Lebanon," Reuters quoted Netanyahu as saying. "We cannot forget for a single minute that Iran threatens every day to annihilate Israel." "Israel opposes Iran's continued entrenchment in Syria. We will be sure to defend ourselves with all means against this and any threat." Iran supports Syrian President Bashar Assad in the civil war that has been gripping the country for six years. Israel considers the Lebanese Shiite militant group Hezbollah to be little more than a proxy of Tehran, and fears a Syrian government victory will further amplify Iranian influence at its borders and give Tehran access to the Mediterranean. Israel publicly considers Iran an even bigger threat to its security than Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL). "It is not an exaggeration to think that within a certain period of time, the Islamic State will lose its territorial footholds in Syria,"said Netanyahu, as quoted by Haaretz. "There will be a much better prospect for cutting the current civil war short and preventing a future war if Iran is not in Syria." "I made it clear to Putin that Iran's establishing itself in Syria will not aid stability in the region, and I told him that we want to prevent a future war and therefore it is important to warn in advance." Israeli officials may be particularly concerned about an Iranian presence near the Golan Heights, a disputed territory between Israel and Syria, part of which is under Israeli occupation. In July, the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) opened fire on Syrian positions in response to two stray shells landing on the Israeli-claimed side. I was told by a (Zionist) student worker who visited Israel that "everyone knows" that Israeli interest in the Golan Heights is about water. Quote:The Israeli Air Force (IAF) have repeatedly carried out air strikes on the Syrian territory since the beginning of the Syrian conflict. In July, it was reported that Israel has carried out dozens of strikes in Syria, allegedly targeting Hezbollah arms convoys. Netanyahu seemingly admitted to that during a meeting with the prime ministers of Hungary, the Czech Republic, Poland and Slovakia. “We built the wall because there was a problem with ISIS and Iran trying to build a terror front [in the Golan Heights]. I told Putin, when we see them transferring weapons to Hezbollah, we will hurt them. We did it dozens of times," the Israeli prime minister said at that time, referring to an earlier meeting with the Russian president. In April, Reuters reported that the IAF targeted Hezbollah’s “arms supply hub” near Damascus Airport used to stockpile weapons and ammunition coming from Iran on “commercial and military cargo aircraft.” At that time, Israeli Intelligence Minister Israel Katz commented on the issue by saying that the incident in Syria “corresponds completely with Israel’s policy to act to prevent Iran's smuggling of advanced weapons via Syria to Hezbollah.” In March, the Russian Foreign Ministry summoned the Israeli ambassador to Moscow, Gary Koren, to demand explanations for the airstrikes Israel conducted near the Syrian city of Palmyra after the IDF warplanes hit several targets near the ancient city, allegedly destroying advanced arms provided to Hezbollah. In January, Damascus accused Tel Aviv of bombing the Mezzeh military airport west of the country’s capital. Putin has not publicly responded to Netanyahu’s comments about Iran, which Moscow considers a partner in maintaining the de-escalation zones in Syria. However, on Tuesday Russia’s ambassador to Israel Alexander Petrovich Shein said that it will keep Israeli interests in mind when dealing with Syria. "We take the Israeli interests in Syria into account," Shein told Channel One television. "Were it up to Russia, the foreign forces would not stay." At the same time, Russia repeatedly emphasized the importance of the role that Iran plays in Syria. The Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov particularly praised the trilateral cooperation between Russia, Iran, and Turkey as the most effective way of resolving the Syrian crisis, adding that “the Russia-Iran-Turkey ‘troika’ has proven with actual deeds that it is in demand.” After the Sochi meeting, Netanyahu flew back to Israel, where he is due to sit down with US President Donald Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner to discuss the Palestinian-Israeli peace process. https://www.rt.com/news/400702-bibi-putin-iranian-presence-syria/
Wednesday, August 23, 2017 11:12 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu has warned Russian President Vladimir Putin that Israel is prepared to intervene in Syria to counteract the Iranian influence in the conflict.
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: golly, the Obamabot liberal AntiSemites must be pulling their hair out! How can Israelis be allowed to defend themselves?
Thursday, August 24, 2017 12:24 AM
6STRINGJOKER
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: I kinda think to claim self defense you 1) have to have been attacked first and 2) have to be defending YOUR PHYSICAL BORDERS, not in some foreign country fighting soldiers from a third country.
Thursday, August 24, 2017 2:52 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu has warned Russian President Vladimir Putin that Israel is prepared to intervene in Syria to counteract the Iranian influence in the conflict. Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: golly, the Obamabot liberal AntiSemites must be pulling their hair out! How can Israelis be allowed to defend themselves? I kinda think to claim self defense you 1) have to have been attacked first and 2) have to be defending YOUR PHYSICAL BORDERS, not in some foreign country fighting soldiers from a third country.
Thursday, August 24, 2017 3:00 AM
SHINYGOODGUY
Thursday, August 24, 2017 3:08 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: This may shock you....but I agree. To claim self-defense, you must be in a defensive position. SGG Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu has warned Russian President Vladimir Putin that Israel is prepared to intervene in Syria to counteract the Iranian influence in the conflict. Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: golly, the Obamabot liberal AntiSemites must be pulling their hair out! How can Israelis be allowed to defend themselves? I kinda think to claim self defense you 1) have to have been attacked first and 2) have to be defending YOUR PHYSICAL BORDERS, not in some foreign country fighting soldiers from a third country.
Thursday, August 24, 2017 4:04 AM
Thursday, August 24, 2017 9:45 AM
Thursday, August 24, 2017 10:04 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: "Fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them over here" .... does that work, in the real world?
Thursday, August 24, 2017 1:12 PM
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