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Tuesday, June 12, 2018 7:28 PM

BRENDA




This is not something you see every day in Canadian Federal politics. But Trump has managed to unit all three major Federal parties behind the PM. They ALL fully support Trudeau in placing our own tariffs on other goods coming in from the US.

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Tuesday, June 12, 2018 9:14 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:


This is not something you see every day in Canadian Federal politics. But Trump has managed to unit all three major Federal parties behind the PM. They ALL fully support Trudeau in placing our own tariffs on other goods coming in from the US.



Brenda - please tell your Canadian friends and fellow Canadian citizens that we stand with them. Trump is a f*ckhead.

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Tuesday, June 12, 2018 10:00 PM

BRENDA


I will CaptainCrunch.

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Wednesday, June 13, 2018 2:21 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Well, I guess Canadians can thank Trump for their unity. It seems to be something they never achieved on their own.




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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Wednesday, June 13, 2018 11:47 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


So, for a more objective discussion of what's going on ...

As I have often said, I don't pay attention to what Trump SAYS; he says things for effect. Instead, pay attention to the RESULTS .... results, which btw include the reaction of other nations (which Trump may be deliberately manipulating).

Here is some underlying information:


Quote:

The United States has the world's largest trade deficit. It's been that way since 1975.
Hmmm... you can get way with it in the short run, but in the long run that's bad for the United States. So, to continue ...
Quote:

The deficit in goods and services was $566 billion in 2017. Imports were $2.895 trillion and exports were only $2.329 trillion. The U.S. trade deficit in goods, without services, was $810 billion. The United States exported $1.551 trillion in goods. The biggest categories were commercial aircraft, automobiles, and food. It imported $2.361 trillion. The largest categories were automobiles, petroleum, and cell phones....

Most of the trading partners that the United States has deficits with fall into the first two categories. The two largest are China and Japan. Some of the largest deficits are with countries in the last category. They include Canada, Mexico, and Germany.

... the top five [USA] trading partners also have the largest deficits. [THESE ARE, FOR GOODS ONLY] ...

China - $636 billion traded with a $375 billion deficit.
Canada - $582 billion traded with an $18 billion deficit.
Mexico - $557 billion traded with a $71 billion deficit.
Japan - $204 billion traded with a $69 billion deficit.
Germany - $171 billion traded with a $65 billion deficit.

This is what Trump meant by America being the "piggy bank" for so many nations (Well, that and our apparently endless military budget, "protecting" large swathes of the globe.)

Trump seems determined to start a trade war, and it doesn't seem to matter whether he frames it as a "security" issue or an "unfair trade" issue or an "intellectual property" issues; in reality Trump will use whatever rationale available to target those nations with which we have the highest trade imbalances. Nations which are dreading losing a large portion of their export markets will, of course object; and -like Trump- it doesn't matter HOW they frame their objections or which trade tribunal they take it to; in reality this is an economic and financial issue for them.

Trudeau, Merkel, et al who are eager to jump into a trade war with Trump could be thought of as playing into Trump's hands. One more reason for Trump to prosecute a trade war: Aside from the general problem (For the USA) of the USA being such a deadbeat nation, the globalists/ deep staters/ bankers make their money from transnational transactions, and any action which reduces those flows eventually reduces the money flowing into the coffers of the tansnationals.

Many people predict that a trade war will hurt the United States; I can imagine pain in the short run as American businesses struggle to replace missing items, and some American exports are blocked out by other nations. But in the long run, reducing our trade deficit will be a positive trend.



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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Wednesday, June 13, 2018 12:21 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


So, of all those words, this says it best:

Quote:

The G7 Summit Highlights Western Leaders' Hypocrisy

Other countries pretend to be interested in free trade; in reality they only care about their own advantage ...

OF COURSE THEY DO. That's what they SHOULD do. And SO SHOULD THE UNITED STATES. I wouldn't expect any other nation to slit its wrists for the USA's advantage ... nor do I expect the USA to slit its wrists for any other nation. But in our interactions with other nations, there are probably many points of overlapping self interest.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Wednesday, June 13, 2018 6:52 PM

WHOZIT


You guys have free health care correct? Does that mean your PM can get new phony eyebrows for free?

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Wednesday, June 13, 2018 8:54 PM

BRENDA


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
You guys have free health care correct? Does that mean your PM can get new phony eyebrows for free?



Yes, we do.

Sorry Trump has to pay for his own Toupees.

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Thursday, June 14, 2018 9:22 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
This is not something you see every day in Canadian Federal politics. But Trump has managed to unit all three major Federal parties behind the PM. They ALL fully support Trudeau in placing our own tariffs on other goods coming in from the US.

So Canadians are fans of 100% Tariffs on American goods for years now, but not fans of fair and balanced Tariffs the other direction?

How shocking that Canada has turned predatory.

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Thursday, June 14, 2018 10:04 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


I have no idea what you mean by 100% tariffs.

This is a good primer on the back and forth with Canada and dairy import/export between the 2:

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-front/2018/06/13/a-trumped-up-charge
-against-canadian-dairy-tariffs
/

President Trump and his Administration have based their public spat—and that is putting the term mildly—with Canada on that country’s “270 percent” tariffs on U.S. dairy imports. Some facts would help to put this claim in perspective.

First, Canada’s props up its dairy industry by using both import quotas and domestic production quotas. As part of this system, Canada has negotiated import quotas with each of its major trading partners. The U.S. has obtained a favorable quota and, as a result, exports more dairy products to Canada than it imports from Canada. In 2017, Americans sold $792 million in dairy products to Canada, while Canadians sold $149 million in dairy products to the U.S., creating a tidy trade surplus for the U.S. of nearly $650 million.

Second, Canada only imposes high tariffs on imports above the quota, not on all the dairy products U.S. producers sell to them. For example, Canadian tariffs on dairy products within the quota are often zero and never more than a few percent. Above the quota, tariffs on dairy products range from 200 percent to over 300 percent. As a practical matter, no dairy products are sold to Canada outside the quota, so no U.S. exports really pay a high tariff.

Third, in addition to subsidizing domestic dairy production, the U.S. also uses a quota system to elevate prices for many farm products, including dairy. U.S. import quotas for dairy products are so low, and tariffs for imports above quota are so high, that, except for cheese, imports of dairy products account for less than one percent of domestic U.S. sales. Canada’s tariffs on U.S. dairy products are based in part on the value of U.S. quotas and tariffs. This practice is the kind of reciprocity that the President claims he wants in all U.S. trade deals—but on dairy trade between the U.S. and Canada, it’s already happening.

As always, if Trump says something it has a very high probability of being a lie.

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Thursday, June 14, 2018 10:47 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Funny that GSTRING should focus on a single item- dairy products- to discuss our trade imbalance with Canada. Canada has been making money off the United States on a whole host of items (including oil, forestry products, and .. yes... dairy) for decades. Canada itself says so
Quote:

Canada’s trade surplus with U.S. soars to highest level in 3 years June 2017 https://globalnews.ca/news/3498100/canada-us-trade-surplus/


Each nation is going to use whatever rationale they can for dealing with that situation: The United States to reduce the deficit, and Canada to maintain its surplus. Canada is rightly, and expectedly, fighting for its interests. But why GSTRING wants to represent Canadian interests is beyond me.



-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Thursday, June 14, 2018 11:31 AM

JJ


Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
You guys have free health care correct? Does that mean your PM can get new phony eyebrows for free?



Yes, we do.

Sorry Trump has to pay for his own Toupees.



Ah Brenda, I see the haters hate even in a simple thread as this. I echo captiancrunch.

fuck trump, up with Canada...

T


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Thursday, June 14, 2018 5:29 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Funny that GSTRING should focus on a single item- dairy products- to discuss our trade imbalance with Canada.



Funny SIGNYM chooses to misrepresent what I posted again. Wait, not funny, typical. The Truth, of course, is not her friend (as usual). Factually, your God Trump has been tweeting and blathering about Dairy specifically as the example of why Canada has an unfair ( (270% bad!) advantage. Then the Truth comes in and lays a smack down on them - what's new?
Siggy even goes so far as to suggest Brenda should be grateful for Trump unifying Canadian parties. Maybe we should all be grateful that Trump is such a PoS that he is unifying all kinds of decent, honest, intelligent people from all over the world? Thanks Donnie! Thanks Siggy!

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Thursday, June 14, 2018 7:39 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

fuck trump, up with Canada...- THUGR
AH, I see the self-styled "patriot" hates the United States and loves Canada.

Not much of a patriot, are you, son?


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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Thursday, June 14, 2018 8:54 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
I have no idea what you mean by 100% tariffs.

This is a good primer on the back and forth with Canada and dairy import/export between the 2:

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-front/2018/06/13/a-trumped-up-charge
-against-canadian-dairy-tariffs
/

President Trump and his Administration have based their public spat—and that is putting the term mildly—with Canada on that country’s “270 percent” tariffs on U.S. dairy imports. Some facts would help to put this claim in perspective.

First, Canada’s props up its dairy industry by using both import quotas and domestic production quotas. As part of this system, Canada has negotiated import quotas with each of its major trading partners. The U.S. has obtained a favorable quota and, as a result, exports more dairy products to Canada than it imports from Canada. In 2017, Americans sold $792 million in dairy products to Canada, while Canadians sold $149 million in dairy products to the U.S., creating a tidy trade surplus for the U.S. of nearly $650 million.

Second, Canada only imposes high tariffs on imports above the quota, not on all the dairy products U.S. producers sell to them. For example, Canadian tariffs on dairy products within the quota are often zero and never more than a few percent. Above the quota, tariffs on dairy products range from 200 percent to over 300 percent. As a practical matter, no dairy products are sold to Canada outside the quota, so no U.S. exports really pay a high tariff.

Third, in addition to subsidizing domestic dairy production, the U.S. also uses a quota system to elevate prices for many farm products, including dairy. U.S. import quotas for dairy products are so low, and tariffs for imports above quota are so high, that, except for cheese, imports of dairy products account for less than one percent of domestic U.S. sales. Canada’s tariffs on U.S. dairy products are based in part on the value of U.S. quotas and tariffs. This practice is the kind of reciprocity that the President claims he wants in all U.S. trade deals—but on dairy trade between the U.S. and Canada, it’s already happening.

As always, if Trump says something it has a very high probability of being a lie.



OH DEAR GOD!! All this grief over butter and milk?! I thought Canada's biggest export was unfunny stand up comics? Can we put a tariff on Howie Mandel?

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Thursday, June 14, 2018 9:00 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


It seems rather silly that we're both selling dairy to each other.

What a waste of gas.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, June 14, 2018 9:43 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It seems rather silly that we're both selling dairy to each other.

What a waste of gas cow farts.

FIFY!


-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Friday, June 15, 2018 12:24 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


FIFY?

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Friday, June 15, 2018 2:25 AM

BRENDA


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
I have no idea what you mean by 100% tariffs.

This is a good primer on the back and forth with Canada and dairy import/export between the 2:

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-front/2018/06/13/a-trumped-up-charge
-against-canadian-dairy-tariffs
/

President Trump and his Administration have based their public spat—and that is putting the term mildly—with Canada on that country’s “270 percent” tariffs on U.S. dairy imports. Some facts would help to put this claim in perspective.

First, Canada’s props up its dairy industry by using both import quotas and domestic production quotas. As part of this system, Canada has negotiated import quotas with each of its major trading partners. The U.S. has obtained a favorable quota and, as a result, exports more dairy products to Canada than it imports from Canada. In 2017, Americans sold $792 million in dairy products to Canada, while Canadians sold $149 million in dairy products to the U.S., creating a tidy trade surplus for the U.S. of nearly $650 million.

Second, Canada only imposes high tariffs on imports above the quota, not on all the dairy products U.S. producers sell to them. For example, Canadian tariffs on dairy products within the quota are often zero and never more than a few percent. Above the quota, tariffs on dairy products range from 200 percent to over 300 percent. As a practical matter, no dairy products are sold to Canada outside the quota, so no U.S. exports really pay a high tariff.

Third, in addition to subsidizing domestic dairy production, the U.S. also uses a quota system to elevate prices for many farm products, including dairy. U.S. import quotas for dairy products are so low, and tariffs for imports above quota are so high, that, except for cheese, imports of dairy products account for less than one percent of domestic U.S. sales. Canada’s tariffs on U.S. dairy products are based in part on the value of U.S. quotas and tariffs. This practice is the kind of reciprocity that the President claims he wants in all U.S. trade deals—but on dairy trade between the U.S. and Canada, it’s already happening.

As always, if Trump says something it has a very high probability of being a lie.



OH DEAR GOD!! All this grief over butter and milk?! I thought Canada's biggest export was unfunny stand up comics? Can we put a tariff on Howie Mandel?



Thought you guys liked John Candy? Though we did let you have William Shatner but we really would like Nathan Fillion and Jewel Staite back.

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Friday, June 15, 2018 6:10 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


http://www.mediamatters.org/video/2018/03/16/msnbc-ali-velshi-and-step
hanie-ruhle-debunk-white-houses-claim-us-has-trade-deficit-canada/219664


Simply put, the US has a trade surplus rather than a trade deficit. When talking about trade you must specify, unless otherwise stated trade refers to Goods & Services.


SGG

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Friday, June 15, 2018 7:29 AM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
I have no idea what you mean by 100% tariffs.

This is a good primer on the back and forth with Canada and dairy import/export between the 2:

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-front/2018/06/13/a-trumped-up-charge
-against-canadian-dairy-tariffs
/

President Trump and his Administration have based their public spat—and that is putting the term mildly—with Canada on that country’s “270 percent” tariffs on U.S. dairy imports. Some facts would help to put this claim in perspective.

First, Canada’s props up its dairy industry by using both import quotas and domestic production quotas. As part of this system, Canada has negotiated import quotas with each of its major trading partners. The U.S. has obtained a favorable quota and, as a result, exports more dairy products to Canada than it imports from Canada. In 2017, Americans sold $792 million in dairy products to Canada, while Canadians sold $149 million in dairy products to the U.S., creating a tidy trade surplus for the U.S. of nearly $650 million.

Second, Canada only imposes high tariffs on imports above the quota, not on all the dairy products U.S. producers sell to them. For example, Canadian tariffs on dairy products within the quota are often zero and never more than a few percent. Above the quota, tariffs on dairy products range from 200 percent to over 300 percent. As a practical matter, no dairy products are sold to Canada outside the quota, so no U.S. exports really pay a high tariff.

Third, in addition to subsidizing domestic dairy production, the U.S. also uses a quota system to elevate prices for many farm products, including dairy. U.S. import quotas for dairy products are so low, and tariffs for imports above quota are so high, that, except for cheese, imports of dairy products account for less than one percent of domestic U.S. sales. Canada’s tariffs on U.S. dairy products are based in part on the value of U.S. quotas and tariffs. This practice is the kind of reciprocity that the President claims he wants in all U.S. trade deals—but on dairy trade between the U.S. and Canada, it’s already happening.

As always, if Trump says something it has a very high probability of being a lie.



OH DEAR GOD!! All this grief over butter and milk?! I thought Canada's biggest export was unfunny stand up comics? Can we put a tariff on Howie Mandel?



Thought you guys liked John Candy? Though we did let you have William Shatner but we really would like Nathan Fillion and Jewel Staite back.



John Candy is dead, (God rest him) Jewel just does Cons these days and Nathan doesn't work Fridays. I am now going to put AMERICAN milk from an AMERICAN cow into my coffee....moo

P.S. We're keeping Shatner, he's one of us now

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Friday, June 15, 2018 8:01 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


John Candy was amazing.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, June 15, 2018 10:13 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


FIFY = fixed it for you

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Friday, June 15, 2018 2:33 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
John Candy was amazing.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



"Uncle Buck" is one of my fav flicks, the scene with Buck and the drunk Clown is one of the funniest scenes in motion picture history...at least I think that.

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Friday, June 15, 2018 5:23 PM

BRENDA


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
I have no idea what you mean by 100% tariffs.

This is a good primer on the back and forth with Canada and dairy import/export between the 2:

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-front/2018/06/13/a-trumped-up-charge
-against-canadian-dairy-tariffs
/

President Trump and his Administration have based their public spat—and that is putting the term mildly—with Canada on that country’s “270 percent” tariffs on U.S. dairy imports. Some facts would help to put this claim in perspective.

First, Canada’s props up its dairy industry by using both import quotas and domestic production quotas. As part of this system, Canada has negotiated import quotas with each of its major trading partners. The U.S. has obtained a favorable quota and, as a result, exports more dairy products to Canada than it imports from Canada. In 2017, Americans sold $792 million in dairy products to Canada, while Canadians sold $149 million in dairy products to the U.S., creating a tidy trade surplus for the U.S. of nearly $650 million.

Second, Canada only imposes high tariffs on imports above the quota, not on all the dairy products U.S. producers sell to them. For example, Canadian tariffs on dairy products within the quota are often zero and never more than a few percent. Above the quota, tariffs on dairy products range from 200 percent to over 300 percent. As a practical matter, no dairy products are sold to Canada outside the quota, so no U.S. exports really pay a high tariff.

Third, in addition to subsidizing domestic dairy production, the U.S. also uses a quota system to elevate prices for many farm products, including dairy. U.S. import quotas for dairy products are so low, and tariffs for imports above quota are so high, that, except for cheese, imports of dairy products account for less than one percent of domestic U.S. sales. Canada’s tariffs on U.S. dairy products are based in part on the value of U.S. quotas and tariffs. This practice is the kind of reciprocity that the President claims he wants in all U.S. trade deals—but on dairy trade between the U.S. and Canada, it’s already happening.

As always, if Trump says something it has a very high probability of being a lie.



OH DEAR GOD!! All this grief over butter and milk?! I thought Canada's biggest export was unfunny stand up comics? Can we put a tariff on Howie Mandel?



Thought you guys liked John Candy? Though we did let you have William Shatner but we really would like Nathan Fillion and Jewel Staite back.



John Candy is dead, (God rest him) Jewel just does Cons these days and Nathan doesn't work Fridays. I am now going to put AMERICAN milk from an AMERICAN cow into my coffee....moo

P.S. We're keeping Shatner, he's one of us now



You are more than welcome to Shatner.

Got news for you. Canadian milk went on my cereal this morning and right now I am sitting down to ice cream made in Canada.

Tonight for supper I will be eating a CANADIAN chicken as well as CANADIAN brussel sprouts.

So there.

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Friday, June 15, 2018 5:32 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
I have no idea what you mean by 100% tariffs.

This is a good primer on the back and forth with Canada and dairy import/export between the 2:

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-front/2018/06/13/a-trumped-up-charge
-against-canadian-dairy-tariffs
/

President Trump and his Administration have based their public spat—and that is putting the term mildly—with Canada on that country’s “270 percent” tariffs on U.S. dairy imports. Some facts would help to put this claim in perspective.

First, Canada’s props up its dairy industry by using both import quotas and domestic production quotas. As part of this system, Canada has negotiated import quotas with each of its major trading partners. The U.S. has obtained a favorable quota and, as a result, exports more dairy products to Canada than it imports from Canada. In 2017, Americans sold $792 million in dairy products to Canada, while Canadians sold $149 million in dairy products to the U.S., creating a tidy trade surplus for the U.S. of nearly $650 million.

Second, Canada only imposes high tariffs on imports above the quota, not on all the dairy products U.S. producers sell to them. For example, Canadian tariffs on dairy products within the quota are often zero and never more than a few percent. Above the quota, tariffs on dairy products range from 200 percent to over 300 percent. As a practical matter, no dairy products are sold to Canada outside the quota, so no U.S. exports really pay a high tariff.

Third, in addition to subsidizing domestic dairy production, the U.S. also uses a quota system to elevate prices for many farm products, including dairy. U.S. import quotas for dairy products are so low, and tariffs for imports above quota are so high, that, except for cheese, imports of dairy products account for less than one percent of domestic U.S. sales. Canada’s tariffs on U.S. dairy products are based in part on the value of U.S. quotas and tariffs. This practice is the kind of reciprocity that the President claims he wants in all U.S. trade deals—but on dairy trade between the U.S. and Canada, it’s already happening.

As always, if Trump says something it has a very high probability of being a lie.



OH DEAR GOD!! All this grief over butter and milk?! I thought Canada's biggest export was unfunny stand up comics? Can we put a tariff on Howie Mandel?



Thought you guys liked John Candy? Though we did let you have William Shatner but we really would like Nathan Fillion and Jewel Staite back.



John Candy is dead, (God rest him) Jewel just does Cons these days and Nathan doesn't work Fridays. I am now going to put AMERICAN milk from an AMERICAN cow into my coffee....moo

P.S. We're keeping Shatner, he's one of us now



You are more than welcome to Shatner.

Got news for you. Canadian milk went on my cereal this morning and right now I am sitting down to ice cream made in Canada.

Tonight for supper I will be eating a CANADIAN chicken as well as CANADIAN brussel sprouts.

So there.



I do not want to go to war with Canadian Browncoats, fine, you win

P.S. I love you...but you have cooties.

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Friday, June 15, 2018 8:49 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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John Candy was amazing.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



"Uncle Buck" is one of my fav flicks, the scene with Buck and the drunk Clown is one of the funniest scenes in motion picture history...at least I think that.



Loved that movie. lol the scene where he's got the boyfriend in the trunk.

I actually owned a 77 LTD. I wasn't even aware that it was Uncle Buck's car until my boss pointed it out to me and we looked it up on Google.

Now that I'm an uncle myself, I wish I still had that car.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, June 15, 2018 10:01 PM

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I have no idea what you mean by 100% tariffs.

This is a good primer on the back and forth with Canada and dairy import/export between the 2:

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-front/2018/06/13/a-trumped-up-charge
-against-canadian-dairy-tariffs
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President Trump and his Administration have based their public spat—and that is putting the term mildly—with Canada on that country’s “270 percent” tariffs on U.S. dairy imports. Some facts would help to put this claim in perspective.

First, Canada’s props up its dairy industry by using both import quotas and domestic production quotas. As part of this system, Canada has negotiated import quotas with each of its major trading partners. The U.S. has obtained a favorable quota and, as a result, exports more dairy products to Canada than it imports from Canada. In 2017, Americans sold $792 million in dairy products to Canada, while Canadians sold $149 million in dairy products to the U.S., creating a tidy trade surplus for the U.S. of nearly $650 million.

Second, Canada only imposes high tariffs on imports above the quota, not on all the dairy products U.S. producers sell to them. For example, Canadian tariffs on dairy products within the quota are often zero and never more than a few percent. Above the quota, tariffs on dairy products range from 200 percent to over 300 percent. As a practical matter, no dairy products are sold to Canada outside the quota, so no U.S. exports really pay a high tariff.

Third, in addition to subsidizing domestic dairy production, the U.S. also uses a quota system to elevate prices for many farm products, including dairy. U.S. import quotas for dairy products are so low, and tariffs for imports above quota are so high, that, except for cheese, imports of dairy products account for less than one percent of domestic U.S. sales. Canada’s tariffs on U.S. dairy products are based in part on the value of U.S. quotas and tariffs. This practice is the kind of reciprocity that the President claims he wants in all U.S. trade deals—but on dairy trade between the U.S. and Canada, it’s already happening.

As always, if Trump says something it has a very high probability of being a lie.



OH DEAR GOD!! All this grief over butter and milk?! I thought Canada's biggest export was unfunny stand up comics? Can we put a tariff on Howie Mandel?



Thought you guys liked John Candy? Though we did let you have William Shatner but we really would like Nathan Fillion and Jewel Staite back.



John Candy is dead, (God rest him) Jewel just does Cons these days and Nathan doesn't work Fridays. I am now going to put AMERICAN milk from an AMERICAN cow into my coffee....moo

P.S. We're keeping Shatner, he's one of us now



You are more than welcome to Shatner.

Got news for you. Canadian milk went on my cereal this morning and right now I am sitting down to ice cream made in Canada.

Tonight for supper I will be eating a CANADIAN chicken as well as CANADIAN brussel sprouts.

So there.



I do not want to go to war with Canadian Browncoats, fine, you win

P.S. I love you...but you have cooties.



I don't want to go to war with American Browncoats. Let's call it a draw.

P.S. The feeling is mutual.

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Saturday, June 16, 2018 12:34 AM

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For me, Uncle Buck us way up there, but I think Canadian Bacon topped it. With some Akroyd guy, plus Steven Weight.

I feel safe from Canadian Invasion because Wisconsin has a Lake covering our shared border.

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Saturday, June 16, 2018 3:28 AM

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Wait........you got Cinema all over my RWED (just sayin')


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For me, Uncle Buck us way up there, but I think Canadian Bacon topped it. With some Akroyd guy, plus Steven Weight.

I feel safe from Canadian Invasion because Wisconsin has a Lake covering our shared border.


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Saturday, June 16, 2018 11:26 AM

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Wait........you got Cinema all over my RWED (just sayin')


SGG


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For me, Uncle Buck us way up there, but I think Canadian Bacon topped it. With some Akroyd guy, plus Steven Weight.

I feel safe from Canadian Invasion because Wisconsin has a Lake covering our shared border.


I didn't start it, just correcting an oversight.


Who You Gonna Call.....Forum Gestapo!

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Saturday, June 16, 2018 11:45 AM

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Sig, JSF is beckoning you.

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Saturday, June 16, 2018 11:52 AM

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John Candy was amazing.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



"Uncle Buck" is one of my fav flicks, the scene with Buck and the drunk Clown is one of the funniest scenes in motion picture history...at least I think that.



Loved that movie. lol the scene where he's got the boyfriend in the trunk.

I actually owned a 77 LTD. I wasn't even aware that it was Uncle Buck's car until my boss pointed it out to me and we looked it up on Google.

Now that I'm an uncle myself, I wish I still had that car.



Do Right, Be Right. :)



Sorry 6 but Bucks car was a 1975 Mercury

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Saturday, June 16, 2018 12:00 PM

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John Candy was amazing.

Do Right, Be Right. :)


"Uncle Buck" is one of my fav flicks, the scene with Buck and the drunk Clown is one of the funniest scenes in motion picture history...at least I think that.


Loved that movie. lol the scene where he's got the boyfriend in the trunk.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Many times when brushing my fangs, I recall the Crime Scene Investigators testing the toothbrush for traces of toothpaste.

Pancakes is a whole nother matter.

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Saturday, June 16, 2018 8:34 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Originally posted by whozit:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
John Candy was amazing.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



"Uncle Buck" is one of my fav flicks, the scene with Buck and the drunk Clown is one of the funniest scenes in motion picture history...at least I think that.



Loved that movie. lol the scene where he's got the boyfriend in the trunk.

I actually owned a 77 LTD. I wasn't even aware that it was Uncle Buck's car until my boss pointed it out to me and we looked it up on Google.

Now that I'm an uncle myself, I wish I still had that car.



Do Right, Be Right. :)



Sorry 6 but Bucks car was a 1975 Mercury



No shit? Looks a lot like my LTD did. It was the same color anyways. Mine was in much better shape though lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, June 17, 2018 7:02 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Here's the car I had:



Here's Uncle Buck:



Close, but I can see the differences now. I guess I didn't question it at the time. Actually, I think the LTD was probably even bigger.

I loved that car, but I didn't know how to keep fixing it and didn't have a place to store it. When I finally found a new home for it, gas prices by me were nearly $4.50 a gallon, and that thing only got about 7 to 8 miles in the city.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, June 17, 2018 7:19 AM

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Here's the car I had:






That's a damn gorgeous car - looks like it was in great shape too. I wish you could have kept it - sold it to Hollywood or the Smithsonian.

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Sunday, June 17, 2018 7:29 AM

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That's a damn gorgeous car - looks like it was in great shape too. I wish you could have kept it - sold it to Hollywood or the Smithsonian.



Man... it was gorgeous. That pic isn't actually the one I had, but it was in just as nice shape. No rust on the outside at all. It was the only car that I religiously washed and waxed every week. People's heads would turn when I drove it around.

It kills me that I have a two car garage now, but I didn't have anywhere to store it at the time. Nobody had room to park a land yacht on their driveway, and a car like that deserved to be garage kept like the first and only owner did for 30 years before I bought it anyway.

(I did call around to junk yards until I found a guy who was interested in paying me to tow it away and pay a bit more than the junk price. It was important to me that it would get a good home. The guy was all smiles who came and picked it up for himself. I don't think he was expecting it to be in that nice of shape, and I'm sure he got her running for about 50 bucks in parts).

If you look around, you can actually find them in great shape still for pretty cheap. I lucked out and got mine for $1,800 when I bought it back in 2007. The story I got that pic from was from 2016 and the guy said somebody was selling that very car for only $2,500.

https://barnfinds.com/full-size-fancy-ford-1977-ford-ltd/

I'd imagine that even if you were in a hurry for some reason to buy one and couldn't wait for a great deal to pop up somewhere you could still get on for around $5,000 with a little effort.

They do require a lot of maintenance, and the 7 to 8 MPG in the city is a killer with the high gas prices. I don't think there's a huge market for these cars.

It would be an awesome 2nd car for going out on the town on the weekends though. :)






After that, I bought a dumpy Camry for only 200 bucks more and it's lasted me 10 years (about 6-7 times longer than I had the LTD). Once I put a few hundred bucks in it for new tires, brakes and a windshield, assuming I can fix the oil leak, I should get about another 5 years out of it at least.

So far, except for all the extra motor oil I've had to buy the last 6 months to keep it running, I haven't put any money into it for the last 10 years. The Japanese make one hell of a car, that's for sure.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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