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Saturday, September 29, 2018 2:35 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


As I mentioned in another thread, climate feedback loops will drive future climate warming long after we've ceased putting greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. Not that I think we're going to stop adding more greenhouse gases any time soon, since there are far too many vested interests for rational thought to be persuasive.

The current studies indicate we're still 1degC away from invoking these feedback loops. In the meantime, more evidence exists of global damage that's already happened.


http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2018/07/31/1810141115 Tipping Elements Could Make Earth a Warming ‘Hothouse’
https://www.rdmag.com/news/2016/11/get-used-heat-records-study-predict
s-far-more-future

https://www.rdmag.com/article/2018/08/study-finds-greater-global-warmi
ng-risk

http://www2.cnrs.fr/en/3148.htm
https://phys.org/news/2018-08-scientists-corals-deeper-stress.html
http://news.berkeley.edu/2018/09/24/national-parks-bear-the-brunt-of-c
limate-change
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Saturday, September 29, 2018 3:02 PM

REAVERFAN


I thought Russian trolls were supposed to deny climate change?

TRUMP ADMINISTRATION TO POLLUTERS: EARTH IS DOOMED, SO GO HOG WILD
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/09/trump-administration-to-pollut
ers-earth-is-doomed-so-go-hog-wild


They went from "It's not real" to "Not enough evidence" to "Too late, it's all fucked up and there's nothing we can do" very quickly, don't you think?

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Saturday, September 29, 2018 3:16 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
I thought Russian trolls were supposed to deny climate change?

TRUMP ADMINISTRATION TO POLLUTERS: EARTH IS DOOMED, SO GO HOG WILD
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/09/trump-administration-to-pollut
ers-earth-is-doomed-so-go-hog-wild


They went from "It's not real" to "Not enough evidence" to "Too late, it's all fucked up and there's nothing we can do" very quickly, don't you think?



Another super intelligent post, buddy.

kiki's always talked about climate change. But you're too busy spitting your Leftist media induced vitriol everyday to even notice that.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, September 29, 2018 3:36 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Not due to Global Warming, but heard about Orca Whales expected to die out due to pollution.

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Saturday, September 29, 2018 3:40 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted:
I thought Russian trolls were supposed to deny climate change?

TRUMP ADMINISTRATION TO POLLUTERS: EARTH IS DOOMED, SO GO HOG WILD
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/09/trump-administration-to-pollut
ers-earth-is-doomed-so-go-hog-wild


They went from "It's not real" to "Not enough evidence" to "Too late, it's all fucked up and there's nothing we can do" very quickly, don't you think?


Another super intelligent post, buddy.

kiki's always talked about climate change. But you're too busy spitting your Leftist media induced vitriol everyday to even notice that.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I don't think she was ever part of "its not real" or "not enough evidence" about algore's invention.

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Saturday, September 29, 2018 3:40 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Speaking of a vested interest having rational thought bounce off its head ...
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
I thought Russian trolls were supposed to deny climate change?

TRUMP ADMINISTRATION TO POLLUTERS: EARTH IS DOOMED, SO GO HOG WILD
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/09/trump-administration-to-pollut
ers-earth-is-doomed-so-go-hog-wild


They went from "It's not real" to "Not enough evidence" to "Too late, it's all fucked up and there's nothing we can do" very quickly, don't you think?






THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."

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Saturday, September 29, 2018 5:01 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I thought we had already invoked those feedback loops?

1) Methane release from melting permafrost
2) Carbon dioxide release from drying, carbon-rich soils that were previously swampy
3) Carbon dioxide and nitrous oxide release from forest fires
4) Re-release of previously-absorbed carbon dioxide from warming oceans

The only one that we haven't triggered yet AFAIK is
5) Release of methane from ocean-floor clathrates

*****

I noticed that they called this age The Anthropocene.
MY vote is still with The Plasticene.

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Saturday, September 29, 2018 5:18 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I thought we had already invoked those feedback loops?

1) Methane release from melting permafrost
2) Carbon dioxide release from drying, carbon-rich soils that were previously swampy
3) Carbon dioxide and nitrous oxide release from forest fires
4) Re-release of previously-absorbed carbon dioxide from warming oceans

The only one that we haven't triggered yet AFAIK is
5) Release of methane from ocean-floor clathrates

And don't forget albedo!

But that's the ultimate question. Perhaps we'll figure it out in hindsight, assuming we'll have enough time.




THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."

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Saturday, September 29, 2018 5:27 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
And don't forget albedo!

But that's the ultimate question. Perhaps we'll figure it out in hindsight, assuming we'll have enough time.

Oh yeah... albedo.
DOH!
I forgot!
Nothing like melting ice and carbon soot to make the earth's surface more absorptive.

Did you notice that the first paper brought up the specter of "hothouse earth"?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Saturday, September 29, 2018 5:37 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Sadly ... sigh ... yes.




THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."

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Saturday, September 29, 2018 6:55 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Sucks, doesn't it?

I try to be accepting of the future, even if it's a dire future that nobody wants. If we're too stupid to ensure our own survival, then we'll die. I regret all of the other species that'll be wiped out, but there will be no people to look back and shake a finger at us, no god to tsk-tsk, and most likely no future intelligent species to puzzle out why we did what we did. Our story will be as if it had never been.

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