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I see that Ghost to Ghost will be broadcast from beautiful downtown Burbank from 10PM to 3AM on KFI ("KFI in the sky" news and traffic) 640.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I see that Ghost to Ghost will be broadcast from beautiful downtown Burbank from 10PM to 3AM on KFI ("KFI in the sky" news and traffic) 640.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Science ( Stephen Hawking ) said ghosts aren't possible, so ... no ghosts. Sorry.

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We see stuff. Stuff that isn't always really there.

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I don't believe in 'em, but hell, if there's a creepier photo ever taken than this, I've never seen it, and sure as hell don't ever want to.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
We see stuff. Stuff that isn't always really there.

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Why do we stuff that is not there now, and will be there in the future, just like we saw? Double blind studies, proving precognition, but without our being aware of it.

Double blind studies showing things are seen, just not in the immediate proxity, but seen exactly as they are at that moment, just countries or continents away?

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We see stuff. Stuff that isn't always really there.

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Why do we stuff that is not there now, and will be there in the future, just like we saw? Double blind studies, proving precognition, but without our being aware of it.

Double blind studies showing things are seen, just not in the immediate proxity, but seen exactly as they are at that moment, just countries or continents away?

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Pretty sure those ' studies ' haven't been validated. Otherwise, they'd have claimed the James Randi prize of over a million dollars or so. Last I checked, no one has cashed in yet.

https://web.randi.org/home/jref-status

* Seems that since Mr. Randi has retired and the challenge hasn't had any serious takers, the $ set aside is being directed to uses of education. Still, I bet they'd still consider any dedicated offers.

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Did you not get that I was posting about people I know personally, IRL, Jack? And that my observation didn't extend to you? That I in fact made no comment at all about you?

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The source was a CIA article from 2001, with no follow-up success or verification; a lot like cold fusion.

If consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds, then scientists must have really small minds, because they keep looking for consistencies. And in this case, there don't seem to be any. Lots of things can happen once by sheer coincidence. So repeatability is key.

And I think if they could use it reliably and successfully, we wouldn't have gone with massive spying, data-capture on everyone, AI because a human mind can't make sense of it all, and so on. We'd just have remote readers sussing things out.

Anyway, I put this in my bin of 'needs evidence to be accepted'.

BTW, it's not that I haven't had my own experiences of having blinding knowledge of things I couldn't ordinarily know. But I put those to simply having my intuitive side (which takes a severe nearly 100% back seat to my logical/reductionist side) shouting at me in a way I finally couldn't ignore.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Can anybody access this one?

https://eteponge.blogspot.com/2010/04/


I can access that on my phone, but the computer I'm using today is wonky and won't allow me to view.

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I've read too many debunking efforts to think that stories - even published stories - are accurate.

I remember one, supposedly a near death experience where the guy almost died in a hospital room and supposedly found himself floating out of the window, where he saw a pair of sneakers on a ledge, and accurately described them.

Except that there never were any sneakers on the ledge that anyone attested to. No sneakers removed by maintenance, no sneakers noticed by any hospital staff, or visitors ... and so on. It was quite a lengthy, thorough debunking.

If there's something I want to post, I usually research it a bit, and I always look for solid evidence.

Anyway, I briefly tried to vet your sources. Most links to 'source' went to a blank page or 404 error. A few went to 'The Intelligencer' which is NOT a government publication of its results. And so on.

I didn't find any links to original government data or papers for any specific incidents. So, yanno, I'll consider it if you can find original sources. But I'm not going to spend more time than I have, trying to find original information.

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Can anybody access this one?

https://eteponge.blogspot.com/2010/04/


I can access that on my phone, but the computer I'm using today is wonky and won't allow me to view.

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Works for me.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Jack

I'm absolutely 100% certain there's stuff 'out there' we don't understand. We can't even unscramble the physics of photosynthesis or the entropy of life! I'd say on a fundamental level, we understand close to zero about our universe.

But in a macro, sensory-limited, brain-heuristics way, I personally haven't had any unexplainable events, nor, as far as I can tell, have the people I personally know irl.

I'm OK with people telling me online they've had them, like you. I just have no way of verifying it. So I'm not saying you're lying. I'm just saying I'm not putting it into my 'fact' bin, fwiw.

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Jack

I'm absolutely 100% certain there's stuff 'out there' we don't understand. We can't even unscramble the physics of photosynthesis or the entropy of life! I'd say on a fundamental level, we understand close to zero about our universe.

But in a macro, sensory-limited, brain-heuristics way, I personally haven't had any unexplainable events, nor, as far as I can tell, have the people I personally know irl.

I'm OK with people telling me online they've had them, like you. I just have no way of verifying it. So I'm not saying you're lying. I'm just saying I'm not putting it into my 'fact' bin, fwiw.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
So, do you believe that some people experience Deva Ju?
Precognition?
Seeing or hearing ghosts?
Seeing or hearing spirits?
Being aware of when their loved ones die?
Twin telepathy?
Out of Body Experience?
Able to see the 4th human color (a frequency of yellow similar to what bees see)?
Able to draw or describe what they intuit or hunch but cannot see?

But you have not experienced any of these?
Do you believe that those who do are merely hallucinating?

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Remote viewing is bunk. So is bending spoons via one's mind. Or telekinesis. Makes for great sci-fi, but as a skeptic, I take the ' show me ' view first, before believing anything.

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Alien visitation is far more likely than ghosts, RV, or some such stuff. And I've made my views known on the chances of the former.


Look, if ghosts are real, and we've heard reports of 1800's era soldiers and their horses both appearing in ghost form, why not more animals ? This has been a long standing problem I've had w/ the ' ghost ' issue. Humans make up a tiny fraction of life that's ever appeared on Earth. 100's of millions of years of life , we should be seeing all manner of ghosts, right ? Well, finally this idea gets put on screen, with the Netflix episode of ' Love + Death + Robots ' .

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Jack

I'm absolutely 100% certain there's stuff 'out there' we don't understand. We can't even unscramble the physics of photosynthesis or the entropy of life! I'd say on a fundamental level, we understand close to zero about our universe.

But in a macro, sensory-limited, brain-heuristics way, I personally haven't had any unexplainable events, nor, as far as I can tell, have the people I personally know irl.

I'm OK with people telling me online they've had them, like you. I just have no way of verifying it. So I'm not saying you're lying. I'm just saying I'm not putting it into my 'fact' bin, fwiw.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
So, do you believe that some people experience Deva Ju?
Precognition?
Seeing or hearing ghosts?
Seeing or hearing spirits?
Being aware of when their loved ones die?
Twin telepathy?
Out of Body Experience?
Able to see the 4th human color (a frequency of yellow similar to what bees see)?
Able to draw or describe what they intuit or hunch but cannot see?

But you have not experienced any of these?
Do you believe that those who do are merely hallucinating?

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I think people can have the mental impression of those things, but they haven't been tested out irl to figure if they're verifiable fact or just a brain fart.

Did you ever have the dream that you're falling, and you reach out to try and catch yourself, and you jerk and it wakes you up? It turns out the brain simply misremembers the sequence of events. What happens is you jerk in your sleep as you transition back to a deeper sleep state, and your brain confabulates a 'reason' in a dream, which it then stores in memory as before-the-fact. So brains is tricky things.

Anyway - deja vu (before seen) is a very common experience, and it consists of a FEELING that you've experienced something earlier; I've never seen someone use information from that felt experience to know something not in current experience.

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There's a similar but opposite experience called jamais vu (never seen) where something familiar looks completely strange. I've felt both of them at one time or another, but they were just feelings, unrelated to anything irl.

When it comes to hearing things that aren't there (especially voices or conversations, I'm presuming), some people have a lot more connections between their auditory processing centers and various parts of their brain. These non-schizophrenic people hear voices. I personally don't hear voices, but I do confabulate music in pink noise (I also dream original music at times); and experience some synesthesia between sounds and sights.

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Out of body experiences can be recreated by activating part of the brain - I forget which part, I'd have to look it up. So can the feeling that someone is standing behind or beside you, watching you. I've never had that though I know someone who did. But It was in the context of deep, relaxed concentration before going to sleep, so it may have been a dream.

The 4th human color is caused by women having an extra DNA code for a color receptor most people don't have (on the X chromosome). As far as I know, except for looking at genetics, there's no visual test for it since the rgb codes used don't carry enough signal to create those differences, to be able to test who might or might not see them.

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Anyway, a lot of weird experiences have physical explanations.

Did I address what you're interested in?

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