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I want to know the reasoning or purpose or intent of America's Military actions.

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I want to know the reasoning or purpose or intent of America's Military actions.

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Are you looking for the REAL reasons, or the reasons that we're told?

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I think it's a good idea to number the various points but I'm not sure what you mean in terms of implementation. I guess you're trying to consolidate all of the arguments into one thread?

Vietnam Anti #3
Your history of Vietnam is wrong. Vietnam was NEVER part of that Post WWII grand bargain in Yalta. Vietnam had been a colony of France and was part of FRENCH INDOCHINA before WWII.

After WWII, as a result of Potsdam Conference, the British took control of the southern end of Vietnam while the northern end was given to China (pre-revolutionary China, under Chiang Kai-shek, before Mao). China accepted the leadership of Hi Chi Minh, who was both an anti-colonialist as well as a socialist, but the British -in essence- "gave back" the southern end of Vietnam back to FRANCE, VIETNAM'S FORMER COLONIAL MASTER. The French attempted to militarily re-assert control over all of Vietnam. This led to a running - and ultimately successful- guerrilla war against the French, which led to a formal division of North and South Vietnam in 1954. (The end of the Fist Indochina War)

Once the nation was divided, the war continued in the south. Thus the war in South Vietnam was BOTH an independence war as well as a turn towards socialism. The first USA presence entered South Vietnam in 1955 to SUPPORT THE FRENCH COLONIALISTS. Unfortunately for the west, "anti-communism" was inevitably blended with "pro-colonialism" since France was still attempting to control S Vietnam. This was the beginning of the Second Indochina War AKA The Vietnam War AKA The American War.

http://www.localhistories.org/viethist.html



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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I think it's a good idea to number the various points but I'm not sure what you mean in terms of implementation. I guess you're trying to consolidate all of the arguments into one thread?

Vietnam Anti #3
Your history of Vietnam is wrong. Vietnam was NEVER part of that Post WWII grand bargain in Yalta. Vietnam had been a colony of France and was part of FRENCH INDOCHINA before WWII.

After WWII, as a result of Potsdam Conference, the British took control of the southern end of Vietnam while the northern end was given to China (pre-revolutionary China, under Chiang Kai-shek, before Mao). China accepted the leadership of Hi Chi Minh, who was both an anti-colonialist as well as a socialist, but the British -in essence- "gave back" the southern end of Vietnam back to FRANCE, VIETNAM'S FORMER COLONIAL MASTER. The French attempted to militarily re-assert control over all of Vietnam. This led to a running - and ultimately successful- guerrilla war against the French, which led to a formal division of North and South Vietnam in 1954. (The end of the Fist Indochina War)

Once the nation was divided, the war continued in the south. Thus the war in South Vietnam was BOTH an independence war as well as a turn towards socialism. The first USA presence entered South Vietnam in 1955 to SUPPORT THE FRENCH COLONIALISTS. Unfortunately for the west, "anti-communism" was inevitably blended with "pro-colonialism" since France was still attempting to control S Vietnam. This was the beginning of the Second Indochina War AKA The Vietnam War AKA The American War.

http://www.localhistories.org/viethist.html

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I think it's a good idea to number the various points but I'm not sure what you mean in terms of implementation. I guess you're trying to consolidate all of the arguments into one thread?

Vietnam Anti #3
Your history of Vietnam is wrong. Vietnam was NEVER part of that Post WWII grand bargain in Yalta. Vietnam had been a colony of France and was part of FRENCH INDOCHINA before WWII.

After WWII, as a result of Potsdam Conference, the British took control of the southern end of Vietnam while the northern end was given to China (pre-revolutionary China, under Chiang Kai-shek, before Mao). China accepted the leadership of Hi Chi Minh, who was both an anti-colonialist as well as a socialist, but the British -in essence- "gave back" the southern end of Vietnam back to FRANCE, VIETNAM'S FORMER COLONIAL MASTER. The French attempted to militarily re-assert control over all of Vietnam. This led to a running - and ultimately successful- guerrilla war against the French, which led to a formal division of North and South Vietnam in 1954. (The end of the Fist Indochina War)

Once the nation was divided, the war continued in the south. Thus the war in South Vietnam was BOTH an independence war as well as a turn towards socialism. The first USA presence entered South Vietnam in 1955 to SUPPORT THE FRENCH COLONIALISTS. Unfortunately for the west, "anti-communism" was inevitably blended with "pro-colonialism" since France was still attempting to control S Vietnam. This was the beginning of the Second Indochina War AKA The Vietnam War AKA The American War.

http://www.localhistories.org/viethist.html

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