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Wednesday, November 7, 2018 2:58 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Cya Jeff!

Trump on fire... watch out!

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Wednesday, November 7, 2018 4:19 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Cya Jeff!

Trump on fire... watch out!



Epic meltdown!

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Wednesday, November 7, 2018 5:24 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


This is good for weed.

Also good for weed: 3 of the 4 states that voted on legalization passed it yesterday.




My suggestion to Trump now is to offer to legalize weed on a federal level in exchange for another moderate tax cut. When the Democrats inevitably deny this, they will alienate a large part of the people who just voted them in. Good way to start the new session.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, November 7, 2018 6:00 PM

WHOZIT


You'd have thought the Prez would have waited until after Christmas before kicking him to the curb.

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Wednesday, November 7, 2018 6:01 PM

THG


Just saw this thread. I watched Trumps press conference. Man there were fireworks. I can see him in a rage afterwards. Sessions didn't stand a chance of making it through the day.

Mueller says tick tock

T


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Wednesday, November 7, 2018 8:16 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Bring it Mueller.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, November 8, 2018 12:05 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I can hardly wait to see Mueller's big TRUMP!!!RUSSIA!!!COLLUSION!!! reveal.




tic tac

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Thursday, November 8, 2018 12:44 AM

WISHIMAY

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
I can hardly wait to see Mueller's big TRUMP!!!RUSSIA!!!COLLUSION!!! reveal.




Followed by the tax returns. And a coke overdose. Unless he's fried enough brain cells and it'll just be a diet coke overdose because he'll have forgotten the difference...

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Thursday, November 8, 2018 12:51 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
I can hardly wait to see Mueller's big TRUMP!!!RUSSIA!!!COLLUSION!!! reveal.

Quote:

Originally posted by WISHYWASHY:
Followed by the tax returns. And a coke overdose. Unless he's fried enough brain cells and it'll just be a diet coke overdose because he'll have forgotten the difference...

So it's NOT about RUSSIA!!RUSSIA!!RUSSIA!! Tell me, how does it feel to be so easily manipulated your mind frictionlessly pivots with every piece of propaganda?




tic tac

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Thursday, November 8, 2018 2:22 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
I can hardly wait to see Mueller's big TRUMP!!!RUSSIA!!!COLLUSION!!! reveal.

Quote:

Originally posted by WISHYWASHY:
Followed by the tax returns. And a coke overdose. Unless he's fried enough brain cells and it'll just be a diet coke overdose because he'll have forgotten the difference...

So it's NOT about RUSSIA!!RUSSIA!!RUSSIA!! Tell me, how does it feel to be so easily manipulated your mind frictionlessly pivots with every piece of propaganda?



tic tac

Could you possibly run a tally, in the OP, of the different newest topic to exchange, with the date it was presented?

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Thursday, November 8, 2018 5:56 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


You seem overconfidently secure in your belief that Mueller and company have nothing on Mr. Drumpf. I don't know Kiki, but some folk have pleaded guilty and some are in jail, and some about to go. Plus charges have been brought
against our little Russian friends.

Then why oh why did Sessions recuse himself, and why did Comey get fired, and why is Manafort in jail, and why is Cohen cooperating with Mueller and turning
states evidence....shall I go on?

The Deep State can't be everywhere, not all at once. Well, if Drumpf gets his lackey to fire Mueller or put the kibosh on the investigation, we'll get to see just how deep the rabbit hole goes. My guess is that Trump is so nervous
about what Mueller has on him that he may well pull the trigger and have him fired. He needs to do this pronto because the new Congress will report for duty in January. So I expect that within the month or so trump will get Whitaker to either fire Mueller or curtail his investigation. Man, talk about
drama. Trump sure knows how to create a firestorm.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
I can hardly wait to see Mueller's big TRUMP!!!RUSSIA!!!COLLUSION!!! reveal.

Quote:

Originally posted by WISHYWASHY:
Followed by the tax returns. And a coke overdose. Unless he's fried enough brain cells and it'll just be a diet coke overdose because he'll have forgotten the difference...

So it's NOT about RUSSIA!!RUSSIA!!RUSSIA!! Tell me, how does it feel to be so easily manipulated your mind frictionlessly pivots with every piece of propaganda?




tic tac


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Thursday, November 8, 2018 8:29 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
I can hardly wait to see Mueller's big TRUMP!!!RUSSIA!!!COLLUSION!!! reveal.




Followed by the tax returns. And a coke overdose. Unless he's fried enough brain cells and it'll just be a diet coke overdose because he'll have forgotten the difference...




I used to joke that I tried snorting Coke once, but I got an ice cube stuck up my nose.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, November 8, 2018 12:49 PM

THG


According to the law, you don't place someone who is going to be nominated into the position before his/her nomination. This leads me to believe someone else will get the nod. It also looks like whomever replaces Sessions temporarily has to be someone who has been confirmed by the senate and is already in the justice departments upper echelon.

This may just be about this guy finding out everything Mueller's investigation has uncovered. I am starting to believe he is a paper tiger, we'll see.



T


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Thursday, November 8, 2018 7:15 PM

THG


T



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Thursday, November 8, 2018 7:46 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

You seem overconfidently secure in your belief that Mueller and company have nothing on Mr. Drumpf. I don't know Kiki, but some folk have pleaded guilty
Of nothing to do with Russia
Quote:

and some are in jail
about nothing to do with Russia
Quote:

and some about to go.
Of nothing to do with Russia

Quote:

Plus charges have been brought against our little Russian friends.
On the assumption that these Russian entities would NEVER show up in court to defend themselves. But when one of them did, Mueller's team choked, and would't, or couldn't produce the evidence.

Quote:

Then why oh why did Sessions recuse himself
Because he had a conversation with a Russian.

Quote:

and why did Comey get fired
Seriously? Because he and his band of merrie men have been assiduously working for Hillary and against the Trump campaign and Presidency since whenever

Quote:

and why is Manafort in jail
of nothing to do with Russia

Quote:

and why is Cohen cooperating with Mueller and turning states evidence
About nothing to do with Russia

Quote:

shall I go on?
No, that's OK. I think the point that you were making is ... nothing having to do with Trump was about Russia.

Quote:

The Deep State can't be everywhere, not all at once.
That's like saying that banks can't be everywhere all at once. But hey, with enough time and money anything can be everywhere all at once.The Deep State has had decades and decades to insinuate itself into the DC bureaucracy (especially the State Department), the M$M (including the EU's) and USA/UK- affiliated NGOs.

Quote:

Well, if Drumpf gets his lackey to fire Mueller or put the kibosh on the investigation, we'll get to see just how deep the rabbit hole goes. My guess is that Trump is so nervous about what Mueller has on him that he may well pull the trigger and have him fired. He needs to do this pronto because the new Congress will report for duty in January. So I expect that within the month or so trump will get Whitaker to either fire Mueller or curtail his investigation. Man, talk about drama. Trump sure knows how to create a firestorm.
Another interpretation is that the new DOJ leader will start aggressively investigating collusion, corruption, and sedition within the DNC and the deep state.

Only time will tell which interpretation is correct ... possibly neither.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Thursday, November 8, 2018 7:49 PM

THG


Wow, I think comrade sig is more worried than usual.

T


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Thursday, November 8, 2018 7:52 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

I used to joke that I tried snorting Coke once, but I got an ice cube stuck up my nose.
HAHAHAHAHA!!!


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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Thursday, November 8, 2018 7:54 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
I can hardly wait to see Mueller's big TRUMP!!!RUSSIA!!!COLLUSION!!! reveal.

Quote:

Originally posted by WISHYWASHY:
Followed by the tax returns. And a coke overdose. Unless he's fried enough brain cells and it'll just be a diet coke overdose because he'll have forgotten the difference...

So it's NOT about RUSSIA!!RUSSIA!!RUSSIA!! Tell me, how does it feel to be so easily manipulated your mind frictionlessly pivots with every piece of propaganda?




tic tac

What's it like being a Russian troll who doesn't know shit about shit, but just likes to lie all the time?

Same question to Siggy.

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Thursday, November 8, 2018 10:05 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by SHITHITTHEFAN
Trolling ... trolling ... and more trolling



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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Friday, November 9, 2018 12:08 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

You seem overconfidently secure in your belief that Mueller and company have nothing on Mr. Drumpf. I don't know Kiki, but some folk have pleaded guilty
Of nothing to do with Russia
Quote:

and some are in jail
about nothing to do with Russia
Quote:

and some about to go.
Of nothing to do with Russia

Quote:

Plus charges have been brought against our little Russian friends.
On the assumption that these Russian entities would NEVER show up in court to defend themselves. But when one of them did, Mueller's team choked, and would't, or couldn't produce the evidence.

Quote:

Then why oh why did Sessions recuse himself
Because he had a conversation with a Russian.

Quote:

and why did Comey get fired
Seriously? Because he and his band of merrie men have been assiduously working for Hillary and against the Trump campaign and Presidency since whenever

Quote:

and why is Manafort in jail
of nothing to do with Russia

Quote:

and why is Cohen cooperating with Mueller and turning states evidence
About nothing to do with Russia

Quote:

shall I go on?
No, that's OK. I think the point that you were making is ... nothing having to do with Trump was about Russia.

Quote:

The Deep State can't be everywhere, not all at once.
That's like saying that banks can't be everywhere all at once. But hey, with enough time and money anything can be everywhere all at once.The Deep State has had decades and decades to insinuate itself into the DC bureaucracy (especially the State Department), the M$M (including the EU's) and USA/UK- affiliated NGOs.

Quote:

Well, if Drumpf gets his lackey to fire Mueller or put the kibosh on the investigation, we'll get to see just how deep the rabbit hole goes. My guess is that Trump is so nervous about what Mueller has on him that he may well pull the trigger and have him fired. He needs to do this pronto because the new Congress will report for duty in January. So I expect that within the month or so trump will get Whitaker to either fire Mueller or curtail his investigation. Man, talk about drama. Trump sure knows how to create a firestorm.
Another interpretation is that the new DOJ leader will start aggressively investigating collusion, corruption, and sedition within the DNC and the deep state.

Only time will tell which interpretation is correct ... possibly neither.

Thanks for providing the answers yet again, it must be so tedious.

But at least Whitaker already wanted to pursue Hilliary's Crimes a few years ago, so Justice may prevail after all.

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Friday, November 9, 2018 12:45 AM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:

Followed by the tax returns.....



So it's NOT about RUSSIA!!RUSSIA!!RUSSIA!!



Does it understands, Precious, that "followed by" implies I ALSO would like to see what Mueller has AS WELL AS what's in Twitlers taxes that he's hiding??

Well, Precious....English isn't its first language... so maybes not.

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Friday, November 9, 2018 2:50 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


That was an insane press conference indeed. Best part was the microphone Tug of War with the press corp lackey and the CNN reporter, that was fucking awesome!

Then Trump "harumphing" like Mel Brooks in Blazing Saddles and walking back and forth not knowing what to do. I thought he would blow a gasket or something. I about fell out my chair, best press conference EVER!




SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Just saw this thread. I watched Trumps press conference. Man there were fireworks. I can see him in a rage afterwards. Sessions didn't stand a chance of making it through the day.

Mueller says tick tock

T



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Friday, November 9, 2018 3:53 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Quote:

But at least Whitaker already wanted to pursue Hilliary's Crimes a few years ago, so Justice may prevail after all.


The Law says.........



It must be frustrating being right all the time!


SGG

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Friday, November 9, 2018 4:05 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Me too!

And here is the perfect song to reveal the BIG SURPRISE!



Chicago sure does the trick.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
I can hardly wait to see Mueller's big TRUMP!!!RUSSIA!!!COLLUSION!!! reveal.




tic tac


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Friday, November 9, 2018 5:35 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Ummm.... er... are you posting drunk, SHINY?



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Friday, November 9, 2018 6:51 AM

THG

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Friday, November 9, 2018 8:03 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Well... I was the only one that was right about Trump being elected in the first place. I was the only one right about the 2018 midterms.

Let's see if my streak continues and Mueller comes out and says that there was no collusion.

That's my prediction, and there's really not much else to say about it until we know.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, November 9, 2018 4:06 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Ummm.... er... are you posting drunk, SHINY?

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

Trump is appointing Attorney Generals while Trump is drunk: Only two days after selecting him to be in charge of the Justice Department, Trump is saying he doesn’t know Matt Whitaker:

"Matt Whitaker, I don’t know Matt Whitaker. Matt Whitaker worked for Jeff Sessions. And he was always extremely highly thought of, and he still is. But I didn’t know Matt Whitaker. He worked for Attorney General Sessions."

On Fox News in October, Trump called Whitaker “a great guy” and said the literal words “I know Matt Whitaker” an assertion that would seem to conflict with his Friday position about whether he knows Matt Whitaker—which, to remind you, was “I don’t know Matt Whitaker.”

Why did Trump already throw his possibly Illegal Hot Tub–Scam Attorney General under the bus? Because his appointee Matt Whitaker is dirty:
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/11/trump-throws-attorney-gene
ral-matt-whitaker-under-bus.html



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, November 9, 2018 4:39 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Does it understands, Precious, that "followed by" implies I ALSO would like to see what Mueller has AS WELL AS what's in Twitlers taxes that he's hiding??

Well, Precious....English isn't its first language... so maybes not.

Does it understands, Precious, the concept of sarcasm? Maybe too difficult English for a bent brain to understand.




tic tac

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Friday, November 9, 2018 5:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Does it understands, Precious, the concept of sarcasm? Maybe too difficult English for a bent brain to understand.

1kiki, your sarcastic "TRUMP!!!RUSSIA!!!COLLUSION!!!" is pure smoke and mirrors. The Trump Russia Saga summarized in 200 words:

US intelligence agencies believe Russia tried to sway the election in favour of Mr Trump and a special counsel is looking into whether anyone from his campaign colluded in the effort.

Any evidence?
Senior members of Mr Trump's team met Russian officials. Several of these meetings were not initially disclosed.

What meetings?
Ex-national security adviser Michael Flynn lied to the FBI about meeting the Russian ambassador to the US before Mr Trump took office. The president's son, Donald Jr, met a Russian lawyer during the campaign who had "dirt" on Hillary Clinton, and adviser George Papadopoulos has admitted lying to the FBI about meetings with alleged go-betweens for Russia.

Who else is involved?
Former campaign chairman Paul Manafort was charged by the special counsel with financial crimes unrelated to the election, and has been convicted of some counts.

And the president?
Since he fired the man leading one of the investigations, ex-FBI Director James Comey, there are questions whether the president has obstructed justice. The subsequent firing of Attorney General Jeff Sessions this week has ignited fears that special counsel Robert Mueller may be undermined.

www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40138733

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, November 10, 2018 6:40 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Trump took office on Jan. 20, 2017, a day after the New York Times reported that U.S. intelligence agencies were investigating connections between Russian officials and Trump’s associates. A week after he was sworn in, Trump summoned FBI Director James Comey to a one-on-one dinner and pressed him for personal loyalty. Three weeks later, after National Security Adviser Michael Flynn resigned for concealing his contacts with Russia, Trump cornered Comey again and asked him to “let this go.”

Soon, Trump enlisted other subordinates to squelch or contain the investigation. He directed his White House Counsel Don McGahn to stop then–Attorney General Jeff Sessions from relinquishing control of the inquiry. When Sessions recused himself anyway, Trump excoriated Sessions for failing to protect him. The president asked then–CIA Director Mike Pompeo and Dan Coats, the director of national intelligence, to get Comey to back off. In phone calls, Trump urged Comey to “lift the cloud” of the investigation. And he advised Flynn to seek legal immunity from the “witch hunt.”

None of this stopped the investigation. So Trump fired Comey. The president orchestrated a fake rationale for the firing, leaving an inadvertent paper trail and a slew of witnesses: McGahn, Sessions, and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein. The next day, in a backstage meeting at the White House, Trump told Russia’s foreign minister that by firing Comey, he had relieved “pressure” on the U.S.-Russia relationship.

A week after the Comey firing, Rosenstein appointed Mueller to take over the Russia probe. Mueller’s purview explicitly included any “crimes committed in the course of, and with intent to interfere with, the Special Counsel’s investigation, such as perjury, obstruction of justice, destruction of evidence, and intimidation of witnesses.”

In front of McGahn, Vice President Mike Pence, and other officials, Trump accused Sessions of “disloyalty” for recusing himself. The president blamed Mueller’s appointment on Sessions and said the attorney general should resign. Weeks later, Trump ordered McGahn to tell Rosenstein to fire Mueller. McGahn refused.

Meanwhile, Trump scrambled to cover up contacts between his campaign and Russia. In July 2017, when the Times discovered that Donald Trump Jr. and other campaign aides had secretly met with Russian emissaries in Trump Tower, the president dictated, on his son’s behalf, a false account of the meeting. Trump’s lawyers compounded the deception by denying he had played any role in the statement — in effect, covering up the cover-up.

In the year and a half since Mueller’s appointment, Trump has berated Sessions for failing to control the investigation. He tried to pressure Comey’s successor at the FBI, Andrew McCabe. He tried again to fire Mueller. He discussed pardoning himself and other targets of the investigation, and he issued pardons that signaled his willingness to protect friends who withheld evidence.

Four months ago, Mueller obtained an indictment that documented the role of Russian intelligence officers in hacking the 2016 election. Trump responded by blaming “the Rigged Witch Hunt” for hurting “our relationship with Russia.” Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI, but Trump insisted Flynn was innocent. Paul Manafort tampered with witnesses, but Trump said Manafort was being persecuted. Three months ago, Trump began to revoke the security clearances of former U.S. intelligence officials, complaining that they had “led” the “rigged witch hunt.” On Twitter, the president declared that Sessions should “stop this Rigged Witch Hunt right now.”

Sessions failed to comply. So on Wednesday, after the midterms, Trump fired him. Again, Trump tried to disguise his own role, making the termination look like a resignation. In Sessions’ place, Trump appointed Whitaker, who is connected to targets of the investigation.

Whitaker’s assignment with respect to the Russia investigation could scarcely be more obvious. He has dismissed the idea of collusion with Russia, endorsed the Trump Tower meeting, defended Trump’s attempts to pressure Comey, protested the FBI raid on Manafort, urged Rosenstein to restrain Mueller, and declared that Trump has absolute authority to shut down the investigation. Last year, after Trump fired Comey, Whitaker said there was “no case for obstruction of justice.” Whitaker suggested that Trump could use a “recess appointment” to replace Sessions with an attorney general who would cut Mueller’s budget to the point where “his investigation grinds to almost a halt.”

More at https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/11/matthew-whitaker-russia-in
vestigation-donald-trump-robert-mueller.html


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Saturday, November 10, 2018 8:29 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Trump took office on Jan. 20, 2017, a day after the New York Times reported that U.S. intelligence agencies were investigating connections between Russian officials and Trump’s associates. A week after he was sworn in, Trump summoned FBI Director James Comey to a one-on-one dinner and pressed him for personal loyalty. Three weeks later, after National Security Adviser Michael Flynn resigned for concealing his contacts with Russia, Trump cornered Comey again and asked him to “let this go.”

Soon, Trump enlisted other subordinates to squelch or contain the investigation. He directed his White House Counsel Don McGahn to stop then–Attorney General Jeff Sessions from relinquishing control of the inquiry. When Sessions recused himself anyway, Trump excoriated Sessions for failing to protect him. The president asked then–CIA Director Mike Pompeo and Dan Coats, the director of national intelligence, to get Comey to back off. In phone calls, Trump urged Comey to “lift the cloud” of the investigation. And he advised Flynn to seek legal immunity from the “witch hunt.”

None of this stopped the investigation. So Trump fired Comey. The president orchestrated a fake rationale for the firing, leaving an inadvertent paper trail and a slew of witnesses: McGahn, Sessions, and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein. The next day, in a backstage meeting at the White House, Trump told Russia’s foreign minister that by firing Comey, he had relieved “pressure” on the U.S.-Russia relationship.

A week after the Comey firing, Rosenstein appointed Mueller to take over the Russia probe. Mueller’s purview explicitly included any “crimes committed in the course of, and with intent to interfere with, the Special Counsel’s investigation, such as perjury, obstruction of justice, destruction of evidence, and intimidation of witnesses.”

In front of McGahn, Vice President Mike Pence, and other officials, Trump accused Sessions of “disloyalty” for recusing himself. The president blamed Mueller’s appointment on Sessions and said the attorney general should resign. Weeks later, Trump ordered McGahn to tell Rosenstein to fire Mueller. McGahn refused.

Meanwhile, Trump scrambled to cover up contacts between his campaign and Russia. In July 2017, when the Times discovered that Donald Trump Jr. and other campaign aides had secretly met with Russian emissaries in Trump Tower, the president dictated, on his son’s behalf, a false account of the meeting. Trump’s lawyers compounded the deception by denying he had played any role in the statement — in effect, covering up the cover-up.

In the year and a half since Mueller’s appointment, Trump has berated Sessions for failing to control the investigation. He tried to pressure Comey’s successor at the FBI, Andrew McCabe. He tried again to fire Mueller. He discussed pardoning himself and other targets of the investigation, and he issued pardons that signaled his willingness to protect friends who withheld evidence.

Four months ago, Mueller obtained an indictment that documented the role of Russian intelligence officers in hacking the 2016 election. Trump responded by blaming “the Rigged Witch Hunt” for hurting “our relationship with Russia.” Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI, but Trump insisted Flynn was innocent. Paul Manafort tampered with witnesses, but Trump said Manafort was being persecuted. Three months ago, Trump began to revoke the security clearances of former U.S. intelligence officials, complaining that they had “led” the “rigged witch hunt.” On Twitter, the president declared that Sessions should “stop this Rigged Witch Hunt right now.”

Sessions failed to comply. So on Wednesday, after the midterms, Trump fired him. Again, Trump tried to disguise his own role, making the termination look like a resignation. In Sessions’ place, Trump appointed Whitaker, who is connected to targets of the investigation.

Whitaker’s assignment with respect to the Russia investigation could scarcely be more obvious. He has dismissed the idea of collusion with Russia, endorsed the Trump Tower meeting, defended Trump’s attempts to pressure Comey, protested the FBI raid on Manafort, urged Rosenstein to restrain Mueller, and declared that Trump has absolute authority to shut down the investigation. Last year, after Trump fired Comey, Whitaker said there was “no case for obstruction of justice.” Whitaker suggested that Trump could use a “recess appointment” to replace Sessions with an attorney general who would cut Mueller’s budget to the point where “his investigation grinds to almost a halt.”

More at https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/11/matthew-whitaker-russia-in
vestigation-donald-trump-robert-mueller.html


Wow. I had not realized until now that Trump was a million times smarter than Hilliary. I'd thought Hilliary was just an Evil Witch, not just incredibly stupid.

With a mere casual but Honest glance, gobs of Evidence of Hilliary's Crimes including Collusion fall out of the woodwork.
But an 2 year colonoscopy by Mueller and goons has turned up Zero Evidence of this story you have spun.

That is an amazing illustration of the brilliance of Trump.

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Saturday, November 10, 2018 8:35 AM

THG


Let us see if Trumps brilliance destroys him and his family.

T


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Saturday, November 10, 2018 8:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Let us see if Trumps brilliance destroys him and his family.

T




Yes. Let's.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, November 10, 2018 10:38 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Trump took office on Jan. 20, 2017, a day after the New York Times reported that U.S. intelligence agencies were investigating connections between Russian officials and Trump’s associates. A week after he was sworn in, Trump summoned FBI Director James Comey to a one-on-one dinner and pressed him for personal loyalty. Three weeks later, after National Security Adviser Michael Flynn resigned for concealing his contacts with Russia, Trump cornered Comey again and asked him to “let this go.”

Soon, Trump enlisted other subordinates to squelch or contain the investigation.

More at https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/11/matthew-whitaker-russia-in
vestigation-donald-trump-robert-mueller.html


Wow. I had not realized until now that Trump was a million times smarter than Hilliary. I'd thought Hilliary was just an Evil Witch, not just incredibly stupid.

With a mere casual but Honest glance, gobs of Evidence of Hilliary's Crimes including Collusion fall out of the woodwork.
But an 2 year colonoscopy by Mueller and goons has turned up Zero Evidence of this story you have spun.

That is an amazing illustration of the brilliance of Trump.

Starting in his first week as President, Trump has obstructed an investigation into Trump's campaign connections. Obama didn't. Hillary didn't obstruct, either. She actually testified several times under oath. Many, many times Trump said he would testify, but never seems to get around to answering questions under oath.

Some things were clear and many were not in such a complex, tangled investigation. There was no perfect X-ray, no tapes, no engineer’s drawing. Trump lawyer John Dowd "believed" that the president had not colluded with Russia or obstructed justice. But in the man and his presidency Dowd had seen the tragic flaw. In the political back-and-forth, the evasions, the denials, the tweeting, the obscuring, crying “Fake News,” the indignation, Trump had one overriding problem that Dowd knew but could not bring himself to say to the president: “You’re a fucking liar.”

More about Dowd at
http://time.com/5386203/donald-trump-jay-sekulow-john-dowd-mock-interv
iew
/
Dowd was well paid to "believe" his client was "innocent". When a lawyer loses that belief, an ethical lawyer will resign. Funny how Dowd resigned.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, November 10, 2018 11:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Wow. I had not realized until now that Trump was a million times smarter than Hilliary. I'd thought Hilliary was just an Evil Witch, not just incredibly stupid.

With a mere casual but Honest glance, gobs of Evidence of Hilliary's Crimes including Collusion fall out of the woodwork.



If that were true then why hasn't the genius, hate-filled Trump, with a compliant and GOP controlled Congress who also hate Hillary - why haven't they been able to lock her up? They had everything they needed for 2 years and they didn’t even charge her with jay walking. If she was so guilty of so many crimes as you suggest, why is she still walking free?

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Sunday, November 11, 2018 9:37 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Matthew Whitaker is, by any standard, a wildly unsuitable choice to serve as Attorney General of the United States, replacing Jeff Sessions.

He’s a small time crook who finished fourth in the Iowa GOP Senate primary back in 2014. He apparently got his job as Chief of Staff in the Justice Department because Trump liked his TV hits, experience that would at best qualify him to one the DOJ’s chief spokesperson not to be chief of staff and certainly not to run the Justice Department. Meanwhile, Kellyanne Conway’s husband, a prominent Washington attorney, says Whitaker’s appointment is illegal.

The question of legality would simply never arise in a normal administration. The Justice Department is full of competent, professional, Senate-confirmed officials who would be more suitable than Whitaker on both substance and procedural grounds. It’s commonplace in liberal circles to see Whitaker as an inappropriate selection in light of his previous comments about Robert Mueller’s investigation, but the truth is the Mueller issue is his only conceivable qualification for the job. Trump’s problem with the senior staff at the Justice Department is he has no way of knowing whether or not they share with Jeff Sessions and Ron Rosenstein a reluctance to fatally compromise the rule of law in pursuit of Trump's personal self-interest.

With Whitaker he’s sure, and that’s good enough for Trump.


More at www.vox.com/2018/11/11/18078994/matthew-whitakers-unqualified

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, November 11, 2018 10:22 AM

THG


I am growing more confident by the day that he can't touch Mueller.



Hey, you guys know what white supremist hate more than Jews, Polaks. Who here fits that description? kiki and sig to name two. Who loves the Polak hater Trump, kiki and sig to name two.

Fucking dummies. T


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Sunday, November 11, 2018 1:39 PM

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From time to time, Trump feels impelled to install a nincompoop like Whitaker in an important job to help cover up his own corruption or Trump’s personal corruption encourages other cabinet appointees like Tom Price, Scott Pruitt, and Ryan Zinke to think less about the GOP policy agenda and more about their own personal agenda. Did you forget who Price, Pruitt, and Zinke are? Read:
www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/ryan-zinke-scott-pruitt-highlights-utter
-failure-trump-s-drain-ncna922156


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Sunday, November 11, 2018 5:33 PM

THG


Trying to do this with my phone. It won't look like my typical post but that's okay.



Hey, you guys know what white supremist hate more than Jews, Polaks. Who here fits that description? kiki and sig to name two. Who loves the Polak hater Trump, kiki and sig to name two.

Fucking dummies. T


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Monday, November 12, 2018 4:07 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


...and the People's Choice Award for political predictions goes to....

Take a bow there Six!


sgg


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Well... I was the only one that was right about Trump being elected in the first place. I was the only one right about the 2018 midterms.

Let's see if my streak continues and Mueller comes out and says that there was no collusion.

That's my prediction, and there's really not much else to say about it until we know.

Do Right, Be Right. :)


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Monday, November 12, 2018 4:16 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


He usually backtracks (lies) whenever he wants to cover his ass, in case anyone calls him on it. In other words, he knows he's fucked, so he tries to distract and confuse everyone by making these outrageous claims. He's definitely losing it. Poor man-baby!

Fuck him and the stupid people who follow him. He should have been briefed that placing Whitaker as AG is totally unconstitutional. So anything that he does is bogus. Trump and company are playing checkers, while Mueller is playing chess. He's at least 3 or 4 steps ahead of Trump, but the poor bastard
thinks he's the smartest man on the planet.

Somebody please put this man out of his misery.


sgg


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Ummm.... er... are you posting drunk, SHINY?

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

Trump is appointing Attorney Generals while Trump is drunk: Only two days after selecting him to be in charge of the Justice Department, Trump is saying he doesn’t know Matt Whitaker:

"Matt Whitaker, I don’t know Matt Whitaker. Matt Whitaker worked for Jeff Sessions. And he was always extremely highly thought of, and he still is. But I didn’t know Matt Whitaker. He worked for Attorney General Sessions."

On Fox News in October, Trump called Whitaker “a great guy” and said the literal words “I know Matt Whitaker” an assertion that would seem to conflict with his Friday position about whether he knows Matt Whitaker—which, to remind you, was “I don’t know Matt Whitaker.”

Why did Trump already throw his possibly Illegal Hot Tub–Scam Attorney General under the bus? Because his appointee Matt Whitaker is dirty:
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/11/trump-throws-attorney-gene
ral-matt-whitaker-under-bus.html



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Monday, November 12, 2018 8:17 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
...and the People's Choice Award for political predictions goes to....

Take a bow there Six!


sgg


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Well... I was the only one that was right about Trump being elected in the first place. I was the only one right about the 2018 midterms.

Let's see if my streak continues and Mueller comes out and says that there was no collusion.

That's my prediction, and there's really not much else to say about it until we know.

Do Right, Be Right. :)






Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, November 12, 2018 9:15 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Wow. I had not realized until now that Trump was a million times smarter than Hilliary. I'd thought Hilliary was just an Evil Witch, not just incredibly stupid.

With a mere casual but Honest glance, gobs of Evidence of Hilliary's Crimes including Collusion fall out of the woodwork.
But an 2 year colonoscopy by Mueller and goons has turned up Zero Evidence of this story you have spun.

That is an amazing illustration of the brilliance of Trump.



Bump for JSF:

"If that were true then why hasn't the genius, hate-filled Trump, with a compliant GOP controlled Congress - who also hate Hillary - why haven't they been able to lock her up? They had everything they needed for 2 years and they didn’t even charge her with jay walking. If she was so guilty of so many crimes as you suggest, why is she still walking free?"

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Monday, November 12, 2018 9:44 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Trump took office on Jan. 20, 2017, a day after the New York Times reported that U.S. intelligence agencies were investigating connections between Russian officials and Trump’s associates. A week after he was sworn in, Trump summoned FBI Director James Comey to a one-on-one dinner and pressed him for personal loyalty. Three weeks later, after National Security Adviser Michael Flynn resigned for concealing his contacts with Russia, Trump cornered Comey again and asked him to “let this go.”

Soon, Trump enlisted other subordinates to squelch or contain the investigation. He directed his White House Counsel Don McGahn to stop then–Attorney General Jeff Sessions from relinquishing control of the inquiry. When Sessions recused himself anyway, Trump excoriated Sessions for failing to protect him. The president asked then–CIA Director Mike Pompeo and Dan Coats, the director of national intelligence, to get Comey to back off. In phone calls, Trump urged Comey to “lift the cloud” of the investigation. And he advised Flynn to seek legal immunity from the “witch hunt.”

None of this stopped the investigation. So Trump fired Comey. The president orchestrated a fake rationale for the firing, leaving an inadvertent paper trail and a slew of witnesses: McGahn, Sessions, and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein. The next day, in a backstage meeting at the White House, Trump told Russia’s foreign minister that by firing Comey, he had relieved “pressure” on the U.S.-Russia relationship.

A week after the Comey firing, Rosenstein appointed Mueller to take over the Russia probe. Mueller’s purview explicitly included any “crimes committed in the course of, and with intent to interfere with, the Special Counsel’s investigation, such as perjury, obstruction of justice, destruction of evidence, and intimidation of witnesses.”

In front of McGahn, Vice President Mike Pence, and other officials, Trump accused Sessions of “disloyalty” for recusing himself. The president blamed Mueller’s appointment on Sessions and said the attorney general should resign. Weeks later, Trump ordered McGahn to tell Rosenstein to fire Mueller. McGahn refused.

Meanwhile, Trump scrambled to cover up contacts between his campaign and Russia. In July 2017, when the Times discovered that Donald Trump Jr. and other campaign aides had secretly met with Russian emissaries in Trump Tower, the president dictated, on his son’s behalf, a false account of the meeting. Trump’s lawyers compounded the deception by denying he had played any role in the statement — in effect, covering up the cover-up.

In the year and a half since Mueller’s appointment, Trump has berated Sessions for failing to control the investigation. He tried to pressure Comey’s successor at the FBI, Andrew McCabe. He tried again to fire Mueller. He discussed pardoning himself and other targets of the investigation, and he issued pardons that signaled his willingness to protect friends who withheld evidence.

Four months ago, Mueller obtained an indictment that documented the role of Russian intelligence officers in hacking the 2016 election. Trump responded by blaming “the Rigged Witch Hunt” for hurting “our relationship with Russia.” Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI, but Trump insisted Flynn was innocent. Paul Manafort tampered with witnesses, but Trump said Manafort was being persecuted. Three months ago, Trump began to revoke the security clearances of former U.S. intelligence officials, complaining that they had “led” the “rigged witch hunt.” On Twitter, the president declared that Sessions should “stop this Rigged Witch Hunt right now.”

Sessions failed to comply. So on Wednesday, after the midterms, Trump fired him. Again, Trump tried to disguise his own role, making the termination look like a resignation. In Sessions’ place, Trump appointed Whitaker, who is connected to targets of the investigation.

Whitaker’s assignment with respect to the Russia investigation could scarcely be more obvious. He has dismissed the idea of collusion with Russia, endorsed the Trump Tower meeting, defended Trump’s attempts to pressure Comey, protested the FBI raid on Manafort, urged Rosenstein to restrain Mueller, and declared that Trump has absolute authority to shut down the investigation. Last year, after Trump fired Comey, Whitaker said there was “no case for obstruction of justice.” Whitaker suggested that Trump could use a “recess appointment” to replace Sessions with an attorney general who would cut Mueller’s budget to the point where “his investigation grinds to almost a halt.”

More at https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/11/matthew-whitaker-russia-in
vestigation-donald-trump-robert-mueller.html


Wow. I had not realized until now that Trump was a million times smarter than Hilliary. I'd thought Hilliary was just an Evil Witch, not just incredibly stupid.

With a mere casual but Honest glance, gobs of Evidence of Hilliary's Crimes including Collusion fall out of the woodwork.
But an 2 year colonoscopy by Mueller and goons has turned up Zero Evidence of this story you have spun.

That is an amazing illustration of the brilliance of Trump.

bump for G-String.

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Tuesday, November 13, 2018 12:39 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Wow. I had not realized until now that Trump was a million times smarter than Hilliary. I'd thought Hilliary was just an Evil Witch, not just incredibly stupid.

With a mere casual but Honest glance, gobs of Evidence of Hilliary's Crimes including Collusion fall out of the woodwork.
But an 2 year colonoscopy by Mueller and goons has turned up Zero Evidence of this story you have spun.

That is an amazing illustration of the brilliance of Trump.



Ahh, I get it. When you said, "the brilliance of Trump" you were being sarcastic. Good one!

Seriously, JSF - why hasn't he locked her up?

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