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Wisconsin Voter Turnout
Thursday, November 5, 2020 2:07 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Thursday, November 5, 2020 2:34 PM
REAVERFAN
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Monday, November 9, 2020 3:04 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: Wisconsin Clerks May Have Unlawfully Altered Thousands of Absentee Ballots By Dan O'Donnell Nov 7, 2020 County and municipal clerks and poll workers across Wisconsin may have unlawfully altered witness statements on thousands of mail-in ballots across the state, "The Dan O'Donnell Show" has learned. Wisconsin Statute 6.86 provides that an absentee ballot must be signed by a witness, who is also required to list his or her address. If a witness address is not listed, then the ballot is considered invalid and must be returned to the voter to have the witness correct. Instead, multiple sources tell "The Dan O'Donnell Show," municipal clerks and vote counters across the state simply filled out witness signatures themselves. Acting on false and unlawful advice from the Wisconsin Elections Commission (WEC), these clerks may have inadvertently invalidated thousands of absentee votes. "The statute is very, very clear," said retired Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice Michael Gableman, who worked as a poll watcher in Milwaukee on Election Day. "If an absentee ballot does not have a witness address on it, it's not valid. That ballot is not valid." The WEC sent uniform instructions to voters with their mail-in ballots that informed them that "your witness must sign and provide their full address (street number, street name, city) in the Certification of Witness section" and warned that "if any of the required information above is missing, your ballot will not be counted." However, on October 19th, the WEC sent instructions to clerks that they can simply fill in the witness address themselves so that the ballot would not be invalidated. "Please note that the clerk should attempt to resolve any missing witness address information prior to Election Day if possible, and this can be done through reliable information (personal knowledge, voter registration information, through a phone call with the voter or witness)," WEC wrote. "The witness does not need to appear to add a missing address." "In defiance of and direct contradiction to the statute, the Wisconsin Elections Commission gave guidance--that is, cover--to all 72 county clerks and turned the statute on his head," Gableman said. "They said, 'Gee, we know the law says an absentee ballot without the witness address is not valid, but county clerk, you have a duty to go ahead and look up on your own the witness' address if there's no address on the absentee ballot." Anticipating a legal challenge to this seemingly highly unlawful advice, the WEC instructed clerks to write in these witness addresses in red pen so that they would be easy to find during a recount or audit of the vote. The Republican Party of Wisconsin estimates that thousands of witness addresses may have been changed, thus invalidating the ballots on which they appeared. The statutory remedy for this is to subtract a commensurate number of votes for the candidates for whom those ballots were cast, meaning that vote totals may substantially change. President Trump's campaign is investigating the scale to which clerks and election workers were altering ballots as well as several other incidents that it has termed "irregularities." President Trump has also publicly called for a recount of Wisconsin's vote. Former Vice President Joe https://newstalk1130.iheart.com/featured/common-sense-central/content/2020-11-07-wisconsin-clerks-may-have-unlawfully-altered-thousands-of-absentee-ballots/Biden won the state by roughly 20,000 votes, a margin of less than one percent. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake #WEARAMASK
Quote: Wisconsin Clerks May Have Unlawfully Altered Thousands of Absentee Ballots By Dan O'Donnell Nov 7, 2020 County and municipal clerks and poll workers across Wisconsin may have unlawfully altered witness statements on thousands of mail-in ballots across the state, "The Dan O'Donnell Show" has learned. Wisconsin Statute 6.86 provides that an absentee ballot must be signed by a witness, who is also required to list his or her address. If a witness address is not listed, then the ballot is considered invalid and must be returned to the voter to have the witness correct. Instead, multiple sources tell "The Dan O'Donnell Show," municipal clerks and vote counters across the state simply filled out witness signatures themselves. Acting on false and unlawful advice from the Wisconsin Elections Commission (WEC), these clerks may have inadvertently invalidated thousands of absentee votes. "The statute is very, very clear," said retired Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice Michael Gableman, who worked as a poll watcher in Milwaukee on Election Day. "If an absentee ballot does not have a witness address on it, it's not valid. That ballot is not valid." The WEC sent uniform instructions to voters with their mail-in ballots that informed them that "your witness must sign and provide their full address (street number, street name, city) in the Certification of Witness section" and warned that "if any of the required information above is missing, your ballot will not be counted." However, on October 19th, the WEC sent instructions to clerks that they can simply fill in the witness address themselves so that the ballot would not be invalidated. "Please note that the clerk should attempt to resolve any missing witness address information prior to Election Day if possible, and this can be done through reliable information (personal knowledge, voter registration information, through a phone call with the voter or witness)," WEC wrote. "The witness does not need to appear to add a missing address." "In defiance of and direct contradiction to the statute, the Wisconsin Elections Commission gave guidance--that is, cover--to all 72 county clerks and turned the statute on his head," Gableman said. "They said, 'Gee, we know the law says an absentee ballot without the witness address is not valid, but county clerk, you have a duty to go ahead and look up on your own the witness' address if there's no address on the absentee ballot." Anticipating a legal challenge to this seemingly highly unlawful advice, the WEC instructed clerks to write in these witness addresses in red pen so that they would be easy to find during a recount or audit of the vote. The Republican Party of Wisconsin estimates that thousands of witness addresses may have been changed, thus invalidating the ballots on which they appeared. The statutory remedy for this is to subtract a commensurate number of votes for the candidates for whom those ballots were cast, meaning that vote totals may substantially change. President Trump's campaign is investigating the scale to which clerks and election workers were altering ballots as well as several other incidents that it has termed "irregularities." President Trump has also publicly called for a recount of Wisconsin's vote. Former Vice President Joe https://newstalk1130.iheart.com/featured/common-sense-central/content/2020-11-07-wisconsin-clerks-may-have-unlawfully-altered-thousands-of-absentee-ballots/Biden won the state by roughly 20,000 votes, a margin of less than one percent.
Monday, November 9, 2020 3:11 PM
Monday, November 9, 2020 6:00 PM
Quote:Differentials in Voter Turnout Calculations Much of the confusion can be traced to the use of different voter turnout equations. Clerks around the state will at times use voter registrations as the denominator for measuring turnout, a number that is essentially always smaller than the actual number of the voting age population in a municipality or county. The Wisconsin Elections Commission doesn’t use that denominator–and neither do many election officials. Instead, the WEC measures turnout using the voting age population metric as defined by the Wisconsin Demographic Services Center, a division of the Department of Administration. That denominator has been used for all statewide turnout estimates, which range from 57% (1996) to 72.9% (2004), the current highest turnout when measured by population rate. Unofficial results indicate a 72.67% voter turnout for Tuesday’s Wisconsin election statewide, the second-highest in the state and a far cry from the misleading social media claims citing a much higher and very misleading turnout number as an implication of suspicious activity. When using different baselines, the results get distorted–and can be confusing. Turnout measured by the (smaller) registration number yields a higher result, and is frequently used by clerks when releasing preliminary turnout. There isn’t a standardized statewide approach to calculating turnout at the county and municipal level, WEC’s Reid Magney said. That’s in part because turnout measured by voter registrations is an easier software calculation for some clerks, and also because voter registrations in Wisconsin have only been required since 2006 in municipalities of under 5,000. That was when the Help America Vote Act took effect in Wisconsin, a federal law that introduced sweeping changes to the voting process in the United States.
Monday, November 9, 2020 6:34 PM
Monday, November 9, 2020 11:58 PM
Tuesday, November 10, 2020 3:38 PM
Quote:Seven City of Milwaukee voting wards reported more 2020 U.S. Presidential election votes than they had registered voters, according to an analysis of results and Secretary of State files. Five of them are in the city’s eleventh aldermanic ward, on the city’s far Southwest Side. Vice President Joe Biden carried the five in 2020 with 3,768 votes to President Donald Trump’s 2,883— a margin of 885, or eight times what it was in 2016, when Trump earned 1,904 votes to Hillary Clinton’s 2,012.
Tuesday, November 10, 2020 4:07 PM
Thursday, November 12, 2020 2:19 PM
Thursday, November 12, 2020 2:22 PM
Quote:Originally posted: Look at that! They started reporting Democratic area votes, and the Dems Election Fraud was displayed. Fancy that!
Thursday, November 12, 2020 2:59 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: https://chippewa.com/news/state-and-regional/robin-vos-directs-assembly-committee-with-subpoena-power-to-review-election-administration/article_74bf7261-a6d5-5049-b884-24dc5c8b05e8.html “I am directing the committee to use its investigatory powers under Wisconsin SS 13.31 to immediately review how the election was administered,” Vos said in a statement. “With concerns surfacing about mail-in ballot dumps and voter fraud, Wisconsin citizens deserve to know their vote counted. There should be no question as to whether the vote was fair and legitimate, and there must be absolute certainty that the impending recount finds any and all irregularities.”
Thursday, November 12, 2020 3:42 PM
Thursday, November 12, 2020 6:50 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Thursday, November 12, 2020 6:58 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: News reports Brown County (Green Bay) finding dead people on the voter rolls. Shockers.
Saturday, November 14, 2020 12:59 PM
Saturday, November 14, 2020 1:11 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/breaking-exclusive-system-glitch-also-uncovered-wisconsin-reversal-19032-votes-removes-lead-joe-biden/ Looks like the problem occurred in Rock County, Where the Janesville GM Assembly Plant went on Strike in 2007 to object to having jobs, and the Plant was idled in 2008, closed in 2009.
Thursday, November 19, 2020 6:08 PM
Thursday, November 19, 2020 10:15 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: trump Team requested recount of only Milwauykee and Dane Counties, the 2 most populous Counties. Bot sure if that was wise, not including a few others. https://ca.news.yahoo.com/wisconsin-recount-gets-off-rough-105529981.html
Wednesday, November 25, 2020 2:22 PM
Quote:Recall, Wisconsin suspended counting on election night when President Trump was ahead of Joe Biden by approximately 130,000 votes. Advertisement - story continues below Then suddenly a day after Election Day at 3:42 AM, Joe Biden received a dump of 143,379 votes. President Trump tweeted out the graph showing Wisconsin’s time stamped entries and the massive ballot dump shows a huge spike at 3:42 AM on Wednesday, November 4.
Wednesday, November 25, 2020 10:17 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Thursday, November 26, 2020 12:02 AM
Thursday, November 26, 2020 1:25 AM
Friday, November 27, 2020 3:45 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Those pesky water mains breaking. I bet the Bubblers leaked so much water that the entire building was flooded out and there was no possible way they could continue counting. EDITED TO ADD: 3:42 was right around the time I was arguing with people online that Trump was going to lose Georgia because of how many urban votes had yet to be counted, but that was going to be the equal and opposite reason why he won both Michigan and Wisconsin, and thus the election. But then they stole Michigan and Wisconsin and Pennsylvania with fraudulent mail in votes. SCOTUS should be eliminating them before next election though so this can never happen again. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Friday, November 27, 2020 3:47 PM
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Saturday, November 28, 2020 6:53 AM
Saturday, November 28, 2020 12:47 PM
Friday, December 4, 2020 8:20 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Those pesky water mains breaking. I bet the Bubblers leaked so much water that the entire building was flooded out and there was no possible way they could continue counting.
Quote: EDITED TO ADD: 3:42 was right around the time I was arguing with people online that Trump was going to lose Georgia because of how many urban votes had yet to be counted, but that was going to be the equal and opposite reason why he won both Michigan and Wisconsin, and thus the election. But then they stole Michigan and Wisconsin and Pennsylvania with fraudulent mail in votes. SCOTUS should be eliminating them before next election though so this can never happen again. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Friday, December 4, 2020 10:21 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Those pesky water mains breaking. I bet the Bubblers leaked so much water that the entire building was flooded out and there was no possible way they could continue counting.Except for Libtard Dem counters (in secret, until Honest watchers returned 2 hours later to ask why are they still counting), and only counting from the secret hidden suitcases of ballots.Quote: EDITED TO ADD: 3:42 was right around the time I was arguing with people online that Trump was going to lose Georgia because of how many urban votes had yet to be counted, but that was going to be the equal and opposite reason why he won both Michigan and Wisconsin, and thus the election. But then they stole Michigan and Wisconsin and Pennsylvania with fraudulent mail in votes. SCOTUS should be eliminating them before next election though so this can never happen again. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Monday, December 7, 2020 7:23 PM
Monday, December 7, 2020 7:41 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Trump's lawyer in WI is Jim Troupis, scheduled to provide arguments on Thurs, Friday this week, to throw out 220,000 Illegal Votes in WI. He filed in Dane and Milwaukee Counties, but the Court consolidated them into one. Next step is WI Supreme Court.
Monday, December 14, 2020 7:34 PM
Friday, March 5, 2021 3:12 PM
Friday, March 5, 2021 4:00 PM
Saturday, March 6, 2021 1:54 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Heard a news report. WI Gov Evers has directed that a GOP Committee person walk away from a hearing which is questioning his conduct and shenanigans leading up to and during the Election. Looks like search engines have scrubbed it already. https://empowerwisconsin.org/stopping-election-commission-from-breaking-the-law/ https://www.wispolitics.com/2021/elections-commission-submits-notice-of-emergency-administrative-rulemaking-on-special-voting-deputies-for-spring-election/
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