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In a statement, Rendon said the bill was “woefully incomplete” because it did not address serious issues such as “financing, delivery of care, cost controls, or the realities of needed action by the Trump administration and voters to make SB 562 a genuine piece of legislation.” Rendon was echoing the main objection that the bill’s detractors—many of them Democrats—have made: that single-payer is too expensive.

A legislative analysis found that California’s single-payer plan would cost $400 billion to implement, $200 billion of which would be new spending. Critics were quick to point out that this “hefty” price tag is twice the state budget. Furthermore, the bill did not include a funding plan (although the bill’s language ensured that Healthy California would not launch unless it was funded).

However, a report by professors at the University of Massachusetts Amherst, commissioned in part by National Nurses United, estimated that after taking in the savings of single-payer, such as lower administrative costs and prices of pharmaceuticals, the actual cost of the plan would end up at around $331 billion. And, because 70 percent of the state’s current health care spending is covered by public programs like Medicare and Medi-Cal, California would only need to come up with $106 billion in new revenue, which researchers proposed could be done through two new taxes (a 2.3 percent gross receipts and sales tax), with exemptions for small businesses and tax credits to offset costs for low-income families. In exchange, nearly all of Californians’ medical expenses would be covered, doing away with premiums, copays, and deductibles.

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No. That's lies they tell idiots like you.

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Democrats aren't going to fix your problems until you take the money out of politics.

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Health expenditure as a percentage of gross domestic product (GDP) in selected countries in 2019. America is Far Too High compared to all other countries, and it is not accidental.

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Health expenditure as a percentage of gross domestic product (GDP) in selected countries in 2019. America is Far Too High compared to all other countries, and it is not accidental.

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Yup. I just told you why that is. And Democrats are just as much to blame for it as Republicans are.

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Health expenditure as a percentage of gross domestic product (GDP) in selected countries in 2019. America is Far Too High compared to all other countries, and it is not accidental.

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Yup. I just told you why that is. And Democrats are just as much to blame for it as Republicans are.

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How about the alternative explanation where the medical professionals are cheating everyone?

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That is not an alternative situation. That is reality.

The two are absolutely not mutually exclusive.

The sooner you come to terms with the fact that Democrats are just as bad as Republicans are, the sooner we can have legitimate conversations.

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That is not an alternative situation. That is reality.

The two are absolutely not mutually exclusive.

The sooner you come to terms with the fact that Democrats are just as bad as Republicans are, the sooner we can have legitimate conversations.

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Doctors are smart, they understand single payer is an attack on their income, and even more importantly, they understand the weakness of the political process.

Doctors know how, and have the money, to sabotage Democratic politicians. Doctors will never have to sabotage a Republican politician because there has never been a Republican politician that wanted to reduce doctors' income.

Republican voters might want single payer, but Republican politicians are not willing to kill their careers by fighting doctors. Some Democrats, not all, are willing but their tactics are as bad as in WWI, where soldiers run directly toward enemy machine gun fire. That was futile.

WWI was won by cutting off Germany's food supply, not by trench warfare. Too bad that some of the dumber Democrats haven't figured out how to win a war with Doctors and their Republican soldiers over single payer health care.
https://alphahistory.com/worldwar1/german-surrender/

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You know... I was going to say at first that this is another example of your hypocrisy getting you into trouble all the time...

But then it occurred to me that even though you're all in and believing all the lies they're told us about COVID, I don't seem to remember you having said one bad word about the Freedom Convoy.

I find this odd, since all of the fake news sites you regularly post links for all have bad things and lies to say about those people.

Here's your chance, bud. You don't even have to say anything here. Just start finding a way to get that money you keep saying you've got out there to help them. With tyrant Trudeau enacting Martial Law and freezing the bank accounts of good people, they could use it now more than ever.

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Do you really think the Freedom Convoy is something I would support, if only I wasn't a hypocrite? That's funny.

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You already flat out said that doctors are bribing Democratic politicians to not pass single payer.

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You already flat out said that doctors are bribing Democratic politicians to not pass single payer.

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I didn't say that.

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