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Alexei Navalny and other strange deaths...The powers and protections of US citizenship status & Gonzalo Lira

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Saturday, January 13, 2024 8:26 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


From what I read a strange anti-narrative controversial person. Some classical Democratic Libertarians and Prominent figures such as tech mogul Elon Musk and Fox News host Tucker Carlson advocated for his release.

I don't know what he was doing in Ukraine, was he in a scam before the war, just a tourist or trying to make movies? From Ukraine he posted to social media critical views on the Zelensky government and the Russia-Ukraine conflict. He lived in different parts of the USA, San Fernando Valley, Los Angeles, New York, Miami. He released a Spanish novel called Tomáh Errázurih

an American citizen?

He also contributed to a financial website called Zero Hedge.
I believe SIGNYM has sometimes linked ZeroHedge

Journalist Gonzalo Lira has died while in Ukrainian custody, according to his father.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/journalist-gonzalo-lira-reported-d
ead-ukrainian-custody-according-father


He has been reported dead a few times but this time it could be for real


Gonzalo Lira a US tv social content maker, a novelist, film director, Chilean-American, social media personality who was last reported living in Kharkiv, Ukraine. Then it seems Lira Conzalo was abducted by some kind of strange Ukrainian gang or group.

They accused him of running near the border, doing a crime, trying to cross the border and after allegedly spreading Russian propaganda then violating his bail conditions

Report: American Journalist Gonzalo Lira Has Died While Imprisoned In Ukraine

https://wsau.com/2024/01/12/report-american-journalist-gonzalo-lira-ha
s-died-while-imprisoned-in-ukraine
/

55-year-old American journalist Gonzalo Lira has reportedly died in a Ukrainian prison after nearly eight months of imprisonment.

Born in Burbank, United States and Died in some unknown unofficial place while held in Kharkiv, Ukraine. Lira explained cited violent acts and extortion against him in the unknown detention center and expressed fear for his life.

In Russia another name, Alexei Navalny a Russian opposition leader, lawyer, anti-corruption activist, and political prisoner.



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Saturday, January 13, 2024 8:32 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


a Clip from the Jimmy Dore show

https://www.bitchute.com/video/dzUMYRxExf0z/

describes him as a Citizen of Chile and also describes him trying to cross into Hungary

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Saturday, January 13, 2024 10:30 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Joe Biden and the US Media killed Gonzalo Lira.

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Saturday, January 13, 2024 11:04 PM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
From what I read a strange anti-narrative controversial person. Some classical Democratic Libertarians and Prominent figures such as tech mogul Elon Musk and Fox News host Tucker Carlson advocated for his release.

I don't know what he was doing in Ukraine, was he in a scam before the war,

He wound becoming a father with a Ukrainian woman. Apparently, according to Alex Christfouru of The Duran, who hosted him from time to time, he stayed in Ukraine to be close to his family.

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From Ukraine he posted to social media critical views on the Zelensky government and the Russia-Ukraine conflict. He lived in different parts of the USA, San Fernando Valley, Los Angeles, New York, Miami. He released a Spanish novel called Tomáh Errázurih

an American citizen?

Born in Burbank CA, so he was a natural born American citizen.

Quote:

He also contributed to a financial website called Zero Hedge.
I believe SIGNYM has sometimes linked ZeroHedge

I often link to ZH because they're the fastest new aggregator I know.

Quote:

Journalist Gonzalo Lira has died while in Ukrainian custody, according to his father.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/journalist-gonzalo-lira-reported-d
ead-ukrainian-custody-according-father

He has been reported dead a few times but this time it could be for real
Gonzalo Lira a US tv social content maker, a novelist, film director, Chilean-American, social media personality who was last reported living in Kharkiv, Ukraine. Then it seems Lira Conzalo was abducted by some kind of strange Ukrainian gang or group.

They accused him of running near the border, doing a crime, trying to cross the border and after allegedly spreading Russian propaganda then violating his bail conditions

Those who know him believe that he was encouraged (yes, encouraged, I heard how but the story is too long to tell) to flee the country bc the SBU was hoping to use him as bait, and catch any pro-Russians who might be helping him escape.

When they realized he was just an ordinary person without special in-Ukraine contacts, they threw him in jail, tortured him, and neglected him to death.

I remember hearing that Victoria Nuland hated him personally bc he said nasty (but truthful) things about her. That might explain why the State Department refused to help him thru their embassy in Kiev.

Both Dima on Military Summary Channel and Alex Christfouru on The Duran communicated with Lira by internet and spoke about him today.

*****


When in another country you have to live by their rules. In Ukraine, there's no such thing as freedom of speech. But unless you've committed a serious crime- espionage, sabotage, fraud, murder etc- it should possible to simply be deported.

It's like a rabid woman's libber in Saudi Arabia criticizing on social media how women are treated there. Smart? No. But does that mean she should be jailed, raped, and then stoned to death?


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Sunday, January 14, 2024 7:09 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Just remember that Putin won the WNBA draft when he traded pothead Brittney Griner for a Russian warlord and weapons dealer after the Biden* administration made her practically a household name, and nobody knew who Gonzalo Lira was until 2 days ago.

I wonder why that is?

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Saturday, February 17, 2024 2:44 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


The Observer view on Alexei Navalny’s murder: Putin must be shown he can’t kill with impunity

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/feb/17/observer-view-on
-alexei-navalny-murder-putin-cant-kill-with-impunity

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Saturday, February 17, 2024 2:48 PM

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A court in Moscow had already banned the Alexei Navalny 'movement' or banned political organizations linked to the jailed Kremlin critic, Alexei Navalny

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Saturday, February 17, 2024 3:21 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Yeah, and the US DOJ did away with Jeffery Epstein. (HE sure was a politically inconvenient landmine!)
Julian Assange has been imprisoned for years, just for being a journalist.
Gonzalo Lira, neglected.


Unlike Epstein, I don't think Navalny was killed by prison authorities. But he might have been abused by other prisoners and the authorities didn't do enough to protect him or provide the treatment he needed.

There is no "Navalny movement" AFAIK. There is an antiwar movement in Russia, THAT has been banned.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM



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Saturday, February 17, 2024 3:47 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yeah, and the US DOJ did away with Jeffery Epstein. (HE sure was a politically inconvenient landmine!)
Julian Assange has been imprisoned for years, just for being a journalist.
Gonzalo Lira, neglected.



What do you suppose the chances are that Tucker Carlson gets sent to the gulag by the current Administration for being a journalist?

For claiming to hate Russians and the Russian way of business, our current leadership strangely seems to really love behaving exactly the way they tell us Russia is behaving.

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Saturday, February 17, 2024 6:36 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


And to add to the list... what about the Jan 6 so-called "insurrectionists" who were kept in solitary confinement, not even having been tried and convicted but merely waiting for a trial? Whatever happened to the right to a speedy trial? (I think it's in the Constitution somewhere...)

How many ANTIFA/ BLM rioters have been jailed, hmmm....,?

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM



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Saturday, February 17, 2024 9:44 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And to add to the list... what about the Jan 6 so-called "insurrectionists" who were kept in solitary confinement, not even having been tried and convicted but merely waiting for a trial? Whatever happened to the right to a speedy trial? (I think it's in the Constitution somewhere...)

How many ANTIFA/ BLM rioters have been jailed, hmmm....,?



It's scary how easily some Americans are brainwashed.

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