The predictions thread

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1KIKI

Tuesday, June 9, 2015 6:42 AM (P)

"For the record I wouldn't rule out a messy Greek default myself, but for different reasons, e.g. Greece's crazy, far-left populist government."

I'm really curious if you can outline how an alternative to default is even possible, irrespective of government.

SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

1KIKI

Tuesday, June 9, 2015 7:22 AM (P)

Anything intelligent to post?

Greece may reject austerity; does a Grexit follow?
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=58938

SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

KPO

Friday, June 12, 2015 7:55 AM (P)

Fareed Zakaria: Saudia Arabia won't get a nuke in the next 10 years, regardless of Iran, because it can't- http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/saudi-arabias-nuclear-bluff/201
5/06/11/9ce1f4f8-1074-11e5-9726-49d6fa26a8c6_story.html

It's not personal. It's just war.

KPO

Friday, June 12, 2015 7:22 PM (P)

A prediction I missed, back in March 2014, soon after the toppling of Yanukovich:

kiki: "I too expect the current 'temporary' government to suspend elections"

It's not personal. It's just war.

SIGNYM

Monday, June 15, 2015 10:45 PM (P)

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For the record I wouldn't rule out a messy Greek default myself, but for different reasons, e.g. Greece's crazy, far-left populist government.

If a government is "populist", does that mean it reflects the will of the people? Because if it does, that means that the Greek PEOPLE are "crazy" and "far-left".

Or is this a word that needs more careful definition?

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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

KPO

Friday, July 3, 2015 3:26 AM (P)

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Originally posted by kpo:

I predict Signy and kiki will not like the conclusions of the official MH17 report when it comes out.

Shock, Russia doesn't like the way the official MH17 investigation is going (I wonder why?) - http://news.yahoo.com/russia-dissatisfied-mh17-report-dutch-safety-boa
rd-134954305.html

My prediction over Signy and kiki not liking the findings of the official report is looking good...

It's not personal. It's just war.

SIGNYM

Friday, July 3, 2015 4:59 PM (P)

Yanno, that's a REALLY stupid prediction. You want to know why? Of course not, but I'm going to tell you anyway: Because you have no way of knowing whether or not what you predict actually happens or not, unless you presume to know what I feel about specific events. (Assuming I feel anything at all.)

Of course, not knowing how I feel or what I think (or what I've written, apparently) has never stopped you, G, THUGR, RAPPY, or GEEZER from putting words in my mouth before, so ... hey, why not now too? For you, it's SOP!

Next time, try predicting something real - or at least something verifiable.

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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

KPO

Friday, July 3, 2015 6:09 PM (P)

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yanno, that's a REALLY stupid prediction. You want to know why? Of course not, but I'm going to tell you anyway: Because you have no way of knowing whether or not what you predict actually happens or not,

I'll know when the report is released and you and Kiki start threads attacking it, duh.

Of course now that I've predicted this maybe you will have to bottle up your sense of injustice at what the report says and bite your tongue... Either way I win

It's not personal. It's just war.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Thursday, July 9, 2015 3:08 AM (P)

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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For the record I wouldn't rule out a messy Greek default myself, but for different reasons, e.g. Greece's crazy, far-left populist government.
If a government is "populist", does that mean it reflects the will of the people? Because if it does, that means that the Greek PEOPLE are "crazy" and "far-left".

Or is this a word that needs more careful definition?

No further comment?

KPO

Thursday, July 9, 2015 3:25 AM (P)

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For the record I wouldn't rule out a messy Greek default myself, but for different reasons, e.g. Greece's crazy, far-left populist government.
If a government is "populist", does that mean it reflects the will of the people? Because if it does, that means that the Greek PEOPLE are "crazy" and "far-left".

Or is this a word that needs more careful definition?

No further comment?

Populists can be 'popular' but the words don't mean the same thing.

It's not personal. It's just war.

SIGNYM

Thursday, July 9, 2015 9:25 AM (P)

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Friday, July 10, 2015 4:33 AM (P)

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How expansive.

SIGNYM

Friday, July 10, 2015 5:20 PM (P)

Oh, I was going to make a nasty comment on how KPO can tell me what a word MIGHT SOMETIMES mean, but can't give me a definition. And that despite his attempts to appear like some "balanced" thinker, he's really just polishing propaganda-turds. But then I decided it was just trolling, and with too much Americanism for KPO to understand.

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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

KPO

Thursday, July 16, 2015 3:39 AM (P)

SHOCK:

Dutch MH17 report blames Russia-backed rebels for shooting down of passenger plane - http://edition.cnn.com/2015/07/15/politics/mh17-pro-russian-missile-cr
ash-ukraine/index.html?sr=cnnitw

Very timely, with the anniversary coming up, that the whole world (especially the relatives of the victims) knows who was responsible.

It's not personal. It's just war.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Thursday, July 16, 2015 4:22 AM (P)

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Originally posted by kpo:
SHOCK:

Dutch MH17 report blames Russia-backed rebels for shooting down of passenger plane - http://edition.cnn.com/2015/07/15/politics/mh17-pro-russian-missile-cr
ash-ukraine/index.html?sr=cnnitw

Very timely, with the anniversary coming up, that the whole world (especially the relatives of the victims) knows who was responsible.

I thought half the people on your side of the fence said that's just crazy talk.
Who is it again that believes everything cnn says?

KPO

Monday, July 20, 2015 3:40 PM (P)

Russia will veto any resolution to have a UN Security Council tribunal to prosecute the perpetrators of MH17

It's not personal. It's just war.

SIGNYM

Monday, July 20, 2015 8:16 PM (P)

Probably. KPO, just OOC do you remember what I've been saying all along about MH17 and the investigation?

Don't go off half-cocked because of something on social media. There are a lot of alternate theories out there. Let the investigation do its work, it has access to information that we don't have, including physical pieces of the plane. There is a lot of evidence to be analyzed, including analysis of munitions fragments and other physical data.

The report isn't out yet, this is a leaked draft sent out to solicit comments and corrections from various interested parties. I don't expect the final result to change, but it might. Hopefully, that evidence will come out along with the report.

The various entities have been positioning themselves for the last month or so: Russian military has its position (shot down by a second plane), the BUK manufacturers have theirs, even Kiev has it's position (They were saying that the truth will never come out because Rotterdam has too much trade with Russia to offend the bear).

But the best interpretation I heard so far was that this reports will be like the Kennedy assassination and 9-11 reports: endlessly debated. Personally, I think 9-11 was a LIHOP (let it happen on purpose) and Oswald would never have been able to get all those shots off by himself.

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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

KPO

Monday, July 20, 2015 9:01 PM (P)

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do you remember what I've been saying all along about MH17 and the investigation?

All of the RT talking points. Don't rush to judgement, consider all the other harebrained theories in Russian media, incriminating videos of Buks driving around don't count as evidence for some reason, wait for the report to be published (as if you'll accept its findings!!), etc etc

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Let the investigation do its work

Let a UN tribunal do its work as well - unless Putin has something to hide, in which case veto it.

It's not personal. It's just war.

SIGNYM

Monday, July 20, 2015 9:27 PM (P)

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do you remember what I've been saying all along about MH17 and the investigation?- SIGNY

All of the RT talking points. Don't rush to judgement, consider all the other harebrained theories in Russian media, incriminating videos of Buks driving around don't count as evidence for some reason, wait for the report to be published (as if you'll accept its findings!!), etc etc

When the western press (including your favorite, bellingcat, and Israel) was vociferously blaming Assad, I said the same things about the Syrian gas attack- there is physical evidence to be collected and analyzed: trace stabilizers and contaminants which point to specific manufacturers, shells (either of standard manufacture, or a hodge-podge of parts), etc. Funny thing is, after MI6 did a chemical analysis of the sarin residue, western governmental voices have gone quiet - to the point of inaudibility- on the topic.

Same thing with Iraq so-called WMD. Hans Blix was on the ground, collecting evidence. It was USA bombing that drove him out, on wave of American propaganda and fear-mongering. We should have collectively stuck with relying on evidence, not what the news media said, because it's quite clear that governments lie- including yours, and ours. IF the MH17 evidence is released, THEN I'll have a chance to look it over. If the evidence is patchy, and the gaps are filled with assumptions and suppositions, then I'll probably reject the findings, just as I rejected the 9-11 Commission and the Warren Report. If OTOH the evidence is solid, then I'll accept it.

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Let the investigation do its work- SIGNY
Let a UN tribunal do its work as well - unless Putin has something to hide, in which case veto it.-KPO

As I read the objection, the problem with setting up a tribunal NOW - BEFORE the final report has been released and the relevant nations have had a chance to comment - is that it puts one of the parties to the investigation in conflict with the investigation, which is not yet concluded. In other words, if Russia is named as the defendant, it taints their role in the investigation. Whatever evidence that they may yet provide, or whatever comments on the draft report they may have, will either be tainted by their role as a defendant, or be muzzled by their role as a defendant. It's a matter of sequence - what comes first. I know you're all hot to find Russia GUILTY! GUILTY! GUILTY! by any means possible and without delay, but just be a little more lawyerly about it.

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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

KPO

Tuesday, July 21, 2015 6:29 PM (P)

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Funny thing is, after MI6 did a chemical analysis of the sarin residue, western governmental voices have gone quiet - to the point of inaudibility- on the topic.

This sounds like something from one of the blogs that you read.

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If OTOH the evidence is solid, then I'll accept it.

You will say whatever the Russian government says, and whatever you can think up on your own to support the Russian government.

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the problem with setting up a tribunal NOW - BEFORE the final report has been released...It's a matter of sequence

It's a matter of spin, and clutching at straws. What about AFTER the report has been released, will you support a UN tribunal then, or will you take Russia's side?

It's not personal. It's just war.

SIGNYM

Tuesday, July 21, 2015 8:29 PM (P)

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This sounds like something from one of the blogs that you read.

That's funny, coming from a guy who sounds like bellingcat.

feel free to look up everything you can find about sarin in Syria. AFA what I said about sarin and the kind of evidence that is available, it wasn't from a blog, it comes from my experience working on a DoD project about detection of chemical weapons. AFA looking at evidence, I review detailed technical reports ALL of the time, and the most interesting (and dishonest) parts are the missing ones.

Do you have any similar knowledge about ... anything?

No, of course not. You only know what Twitter tells you. You have no analytical capability. No wonder you're reduced to making irrelevant/ unverifiable "predictions".

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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

KPO

Wednesday, July 22, 2015 7:25 PM (P)

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Auraptor - "Glenn Beck says to buy gold! He just may be onto something."

Gold price today, per ounce:

$1,288.50
€964.27

It's not personal. It's just war.

Gold price today, per ounce:

$1,222.10
€958.53

I guess it's a long term investment...

It's not personal. It's just war.

Gold price today, per ounce:

$1168.50
€937.22

It's not personal. It's just war.

Gold price today, per ounce:

$1090.80
€1001.08

It's not personal. It's just war.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Thursday, July 23, 2015 5:27 AM (P)

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Auraptor - "Glenn Beck says to buy gold! He just may be onto something."

Gold price today, 6 August 2014, per ounce:

$1,288.50
€964.27

Gold price today, 25 September 2014, per ounce:

$1,222.10
€958.53

I guess it's a long term investment...

Gold price today, 30 November 2014, per ounce:

$1168.50
€937.22

Gold price today, 22 July 2015, per ounce:

$1090.80
€1001.08

Edited for useful relevant data. Feel free to quote this post, and just delete the "quote from" me part.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Thursday, July 23, 2015 5:30 AM (P)

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Originally posted by JO753:
Interesting stuff. In sum other universe in wich I moved to Wall Street wen I wuz 18, I'm all about that shiz. Here, I'm just a poor working chump with the foolish notion that making real products shoud be a lucrativ endevour. Therefor, I never had any money to invest.

Sorry for the delay in mentioning this - I was trying at that time to post replies over several days.

Never have money to invest? If you have one of most types of retirement funds, likely you are either invested in the market or have the option to be invested in one of the market funds through your retirement account, and likely tax-deferred.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Thursday, July 23, 2015 5:45 AM (P)

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I rate it excellent. How did you know?

Prior to Obamanomics, the trigger hit end of Jan.

Sorry, I was running out of time.

For the century prior to Obamanomics ruining the US Economy, there was an excellent triggering indicator for significant Bear market. I was highly interested in this during the late 80s and all of the 90s, since I wanted to know when to time the market to avoid Bear. I wanted to partake in Bull, and avoid Bear.
Take the high market closing price of DJIA. Whenever a Bear market is about to hit, it will be predicated by a 15% drop from the high of the cycle. Then, at least historically, there will be a profit-taking bump, followed by the Bear.
During the 80s, before the juggernaut of Reaganomics took full effect, DJIA was at 777.
By early 2001 the DJIA had already hit a high of about 12,000. I think it was about April 2001 when the Dow dropped to about 10,200 - or at least 15% below it's high. I didn't notice until May or June, and at the time I had restrictions on my retirement account with something like a 2 month delay before interfund transfers could take effect. Plus I was away from home for a month, and my passwords were at home. However, I did inform friends and coworkers that a Bear market was imminent. Those that took my advice got out in July. My sellout took effect in August, with Dow still above 10,000. I forget how high the bump was, something like 8%, which I missed out on. By September 10th, Dow was dropping rapidly and under 10,000.

Those who took my advice did not lose the 45% of their life's savings like most did. I got a lot of free dinners in 2002 and 03.

In October 2007 the Rock the Vote Congress' first budget took effect, Dow peaked at 14,000.

Ran out of time again.
At the end of Jan 2008, like 28th or so, DJIA dropped to about 12,460 - or a 15% drop.
Now, the concern for me was, this was now the era of computer trading, and programs. Previously the bump and subsequent Bear took months, but could this all happen in a matter of weeks or days? So I got out around 4 or 6 Feb, and missed out on the profits of 6-8% during Feb and March.

So, me and the friends who listened to me in 2001 saved about 40% of our money (actually, we earned that 40% when we got back in at the bottom of Bear), and rode the wave from about 7,400 up to 14,000 - and then again saved in 2008 about 55% of our money, and again rode the wave from about 5 or 6,000 in 2009 up to, what, 17,000 now?

But under Obamanomics, the market is no longer a US economy, and may never be again.

I somewhat misstated the summary figures when I posted this. I may have been trying to simplify it, but for those who are or were trying to pay attention, I should clarify.

11,723 close on 14 January, 2000.
7,286 close on 9 October, 2002.
14,164 close on 9 October 2007.
12,635 close on 4 Feb, 2008.
6,547 close on 9 March 2009.

From the high of about 12,000 in 2000 to the low of about 7,400 (62%) the loss was about 38%. From the bump after trigger point of about 11,000 in summer 2001, the drop was about 34%.
The gain from getting back in at the bottom was 51% from 7,400 back to 11,000. And over 94% gain to over 14,000 in 2007.
From the high of over 14K in October 2007 to the low of 6,547 in March 2009 was a loss of 54%. From the days in Feb 2008 (following the trigger) at 12,635 it was a loss of 49%.
The gain from getting back in at the bottom on 9 Mar 2009 and riding up to 12,600 was 93%, and riding back up to 14K was 116%.

So while some choose to lose 34% and 49%, others chose to obtain gains of 51% and 93& solely from those episodes.

KPO

Friday, July 24, 2015 1:52 AM (P)

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AFA what I said about sarin and the kind of evidence that is available, it wasn't from a blog, it comes from my experience working on a DoD project about detection of chemical weapons. AFA looking at evidence, I review detailed technical reports ALL of the time, and the most interesting (and dishonest) parts are the missing ones.

Your experience on a DoD project doesn't make you an impartial expert, it makes you a hyper-partisan amateur with a teensy bit of exposure. And I don't care how many technical reports you've read, I'll believe your critical reading skills when I see them.

It's not personal. It's just war.

SIGNYM

Friday, July 24, 2015 11:06 AM (P)

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Originally posted by kpo:
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AFA what I said about sarin and the kind of evidence that is available, it wasn't from a blog, it comes from my experience working on a DoD project about detection of chemical weapons. AFA looking at evidence, I review detailed technical reports ALL of the time, and the most interesting (and dishonest) parts are the missing ones.

Your experience on a DoD project doesn't make you an impartial expert, it makes you a hyper-partisan amateur with a teensy bit of exposure. And I don't care how many technical reports you've read, I'll believe your critical reading skills when I see them.

It's not personal. It's just war.

What that makes me is infinitely more experienced than you, since any number divided by zero is infinity.

*sticks tongue out*

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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

KPO

Tuesday, August 11, 2015 5:19 AM (P)

Russian media, and their mouthpieces on this site, will still be speculating on the possibility of 'another Maidan' a year from now, it not having happened.

It's not personal. It's just war.

SIGNYM

Monday, August 31, 2015 10:56 PM (P)

Guardsman killed in protests as Ukraine MPs back more autonomy for rebel regions
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/31/us-ukraine-crisis-status-idU
SKCN0R00YV20150831

Not as I predicted. While I did predict a rebellion, it's not coming from the direction I thought. I should have known better: People who want to stroll the boulevards and sip coffee at coffee shops are not about to pick up a gun, or a hand-grenade, they're going to shelter at home or flee the country. All of the disturbances .... the firefight in the Transcarpathians, the shootings, the violent put-downs of miners strikes etc have all been from the right wing. They were the ones who petrol-bombed and shot at the riot police (not the coffee-sippers) and they're willing to be violent now, too.

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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

BYTEMITE

Friday, September 11, 2015 10:51 PM (P)

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I think she (Hillary) might be violently insane. Like sometimes it just seems like there's a rage under the surface, and she also seems really dishonest. Not to mention a bit careless about some issues. She strikes me as an intelligent psychopath, one of the manipulative ones who has poor impulse control and a lack of humility or regret.

I don't even think Benghazi was a thing, but I don't trust her at all. I think she's not-so-secretly racist against middle-eastern people and will start more wars than Trump ever would, and Trump's already a disaster that way.

~Byte

SIGNYM

Friday, September 11, 2015 11:06 PM (P)

If people don't run from Hillary, their tingly-spidey-sense is broken.

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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

BYTEMITE

Saturday, September 12, 2015 1:39 AM (P)

It's pretty vague in terms of predictions, but I still thought it might belong here.

If she doesn't get the presidency (and I hope not) but gets elected somewhere and supports a war, that might be enough to confirm.

KPO

Monday, October 12, 2015 6:47 PM (P)

Signy: "I'm not a military analyst, but my view is that as long as the USA sits out the situation in Syria, the terrorists will be mopped up in Syria and Iraq in about 6 months."

It's not personal. It's just war.

KPO

Monday, October 19, 2015 6:21 PM (P)

So many easy predictions that we all missed out on making about Russia's intervention in Syria...

- Russia focussing its bombing not on IS but other rebel groups, including the FSA
- The Syrian government going on the offensive not against IS but other rebel groups
- Russia's intervention making the refugee crisis dramatically worse - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-34570938

All so predictable. Anyone else kicking themselves for not bothering to write them here?

Also: http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60006

It's not personal. It's just war.

JAYNEZTOWN

Sunday, November 8, 2015 5:34 PM (P)

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I predict soylent green type products will be in use by 2020.

Did u predict planned parenthood?

THGRRI

Sunday, November 8, 2015 8:42 PM (P)

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Originally posted by kpo:

Signy:

"I'm not a military analyst, but my view is that as long as the USA sits out the situation in Syria, the terrorists will be mopped up in Syria and Iraq in about 6 months."

It's not personal. It's just war.

She has a lot of faith in her Russian Empire

KPO

Monday, November 9, 2015 5:21 PM (P)

"Unreformed Ukraine is turning into a failed state" - a bit strong, but convincing argument: http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-11-06/unreformed-ukraine-is
-self-destructing

It's not personal. It's just war.

JAYNEZTOWN

Tuesday, November 10, 2015 5:05 AM (P)

this gril called it 3 years back

JAYNEZTOWN

Sunday, November 15, 2015 12:58 AM (P)

good website http://www.usdebtclock.org/

THGRRI

Sunday, November 15, 2015 8:03 AM (P)

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
good website http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Jealous?

JAYNEZTOWN

Monday, November 16, 2015 10:15 PM (P)

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Funny that only you and George Soros knew when the market was gonna tank.

"A hundred million miracles,
a hundred million miracles,
are happening every day."

the chat out there is you ain't seen nothing yet, 'open borders w2eu'

KPO

Wednesday, November 18, 2015 3:17 AM (P)

Signy, on the Paris terrorist attacks:

"THE USA. Will certainly attempt to use the tragedy to unite various European nations/ entities (like NATO) to possibly put "boots on the ground" in Syria, to take over (or at least tag along) with the Russian anti-ISIL effort and ultimately topple Assad."

It's not personal. It's just war.

THGRRI

Wednesday, November 18, 2015 4:09 AM (P)

I predict JAYNZTOWN will shit himself with the next wave of refugees.

SIGNYM

Wednesday, November 18, 2015 5:14 AM (P)

THGUR on a potential conflict between NATO and Russia in Syria

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There would not be a confrontation because Russia would stand down.

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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

THGRRI

Wednesday, November 18, 2015 5:40 AM (P)

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
THGUR on a potential conflict between NATO and Russia in Syria
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There would not be a confrontation because Russia would stand down.

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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

Yep

JAYNEZTOWN

Friday, November 20, 2015 12:43 AM (P)

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Originally posted by kpo:
dbl

https://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com/2015/11/18/breaking-new
s-from-france-24-eight-suspected-terrorists-arrested-in-turkey-posing-as-refugees/

THGRRI

Friday, November 20, 2015 1:07 AM (P)

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dbl

https://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com/2015/11/18/breaking-new
s-from-france-24-eight-suspected-terrorists-arrested-in-turkey-posing-as-refugees/

It's nice to see you and I agree on the evilness of DAESH, and the need for us to be tolerant of Muslims in general because most are, well as you say below, caring and hardworking people.

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..JAYNEZTOWN, Sept. 8th 2004

Hot headed reactions like these are kind of understandable. I saw much worse ideas than this Flynn guy on the Yahoo-news and MSN-news board

It's true that these Islamic terrorists are scum, and if they take human life, bomb hospitals or kill children they deserve to die.

However not all Arabs, Muslims or Islamics are like these radical nuts. Many are just ordinary folk and some don't give a damn about religion. Terrorism will always exist in some form, it is hard to defeat but it can be largely prevented.

Terrorism flourishes where there is ethnic hatred, radical political leaders, religious nuts and oppression..these are the places where it grows and gets strong.

The probelm is that some try to strike back using overkill methods only to see terror groups spring back in other places and sometimes stronger.

Take the example of Clinton, he was a bullcrap president and spent much time with Monica and cigars. However he done ok for the USA and was smart when it came to global politics and events. In Kosovo, we had different ethnic groups and races killing ecah other. Clinton was forced to act and planes bombed. Afterwards there were big problems, yet Clinton set up the smart framework so that the area would be secure, safe and free from dictators or terrorists again. Clinton also done good in parts of Asia, Northern Ireland and the Middle East.

Now take our idiot Bush, all fight but no brains instead of finding the evil Binladen and his Taliban friends Bush is off causing trouble in the Iraq. Meanwhile N-Korea is building long range Nukes that reach the west coast and Iran has a real WMD program. Terrorism flourishes where there is ethnic hatred, radical political leaders, religious nuts and oppression..these are the places where it grows and gets strong and this might be why it's now growing in Iraq, a place where Al-Quaida could not have existed some months ago as Saddam used to hatethem and other religious radicals. It seems Bush has plenty of bravado and fight in him, but no brains and tactics and no idea about peace, and security or winning the war.

There is no doubt these islamic extremists are evil and they should be killed for what they have done. However not respond by bombing a city
let's catch them , put them on trial and shoot them.

The worst thing Russia could do is play this like Bush has done, by pinning it on some other random city ( Baghdad-Iraq ) . When I speak of Clinton or Bush I don't just mean the presidents but the advisors and administartion which surrounds. Is Bush smart enough to win peace and security or are the terrorists coming back and more people going to die ?

JAYNEZTOWN

Saturday, November 21, 2015 5:01 AM (P)

Bonner dollar danger Agora Inc claim to call it correctly with predictions since the 70s

KPO

Sunday, November 22, 2015 6:02 AM (P)

G: "Wow, according to Russian state run media it sounds like Russia will have ISIL all mopped up by turkey (heh) day.
Thanks Russia!"

Signy: "Keep that one warm. According to Russia, it will take bout 6 months. I'll let you know when the thanks become appropriate. At that point, you probably should, because it will be no thanks to the USA, France, or NATO when that day comes."

It's not personal. It's just war.

KPO

Wednesday, November 25, 2015 10:22 PM (P)

Signy to kpo, G, THGRRI:

"I told you a month or so ago... that in a short while you would be cheering for ISIL."

It's not personal. It's just war.

JAYNEZTOWN

Tuesday, December 1, 2015 1:18 AM (P)

2012 a poor year
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=54818
lots of bad predictions on the online firefly community

Quote:
Originally posted by kpo:

Paul Krugman wonders if/suggests Japan will perform surprisingly well in the short/medium term because it has just launched fresh stimulus plans

It's not personal. It's just war.

If you want to see the future of looming elderly populations...in the West too, more people rent, they don't buy homes, women don't have kids there is contraception, abortion and the inconvenience of kids, the men they are buying cars, they become more effeminate with feelings, the men buy xboxs and gadgets.....the social changes are massive when you contrast USA of today with the ideal post WW2 nuclear family. the ideal American family is broken and many of the Europeans are not having children either, poor demographics or is the population just balancing itself?

look to Japan to see your future

JAPAN’S BOLD STEPS
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/retirement/retire-planni
ng/how-japan-is-coping-with-a-rapidly-aging-population/article27259703/
People over the age of 65 make up a quarter of Japan’s population, and it’s on track to reach 40 per cent. The top-heavy demographic creates huge challenges for government and the economy. Now the country is tackling the problem with innovative programs, including everything from comprehensive long-term-care insurance to robotics. This is part of the Globe and Mail’s week-long series on baby boomers and how their spending, investing, health and lifestyle decisions could affect Canada’s economy in the next 15 years. Is Canada ready for the boom?

long term trend?

this vid might help out
Notice how the economic ball shifts, it was heading in the direction of the USA and almost inside the USA but the economic sphere suddenly changes direction during Nam, maybe it starts first with the French leading retreat in IndoChina and the USA escalates, getting deeper involved in Vietnam and deeper into the Cold War-era proxy war, finally leading to a withdraw in April 1975...the economics and the movement of this sphere in the video reflect this power shift
Recently during the terms of Bush Jnr and Obama there has been a massive shift.

JAYNEZTOWN

Tuesday, December 1, 2015 7:00 AM (P)

Clock boy later loses his money in lawsuit, flies overseas escaping with the money to some Arabia place....he lives it up for a while until the sandbox he lives in implodes...

if the middle east civil war or random islamic mob don't get him, he dies of a drug overdose in year 2027

SIGNYM

Wednesday, December 2, 2015 8:55 PM (P)

Quote:
"I told you a month or so ago... that in a short while you would be cheering for ISIL."- SIGNY

And there is KPO- cheering whenever Russian planes are downed by ISIL. Prediction accomplished.

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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

JAYNEZTOWN

Wednesday, December 2, 2015 11:20 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
No Best Of 2013?

never seen the thread, anyways seems Trump may have been correct, ok not *thousand* that to me would be too much, maybe memories get fuzzy and the memory you recall gets distorted by the mists of time, police reports are notorious of how eye witness of events tell diluted or exaggerated tales of what really happens....i find it hard to believe a thousand or thousands celebrated but then again reports are coming in

anyways here is the clip, Trump may have been right

there were celebration reports

JAYNEZTOWN

Tuesday, December 8, 2015 7:25 AM (P)

Big changes in health care, socialism, medical benefit

and a rise of the right in the EU, rise of nationalism in Europe

Quote:
Originally posted by kpo:
Paul Krugman rounds up 6 conservative predictions on Obamacare: http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/06/26/zero-for-six/?_php=true&am
p;_type=blogs&module=BlogPost-Title&version=Blog%20Main&contentCollection=Opinion&action=Click&pgtype=Blogs®ion=Body&_r=0

It's not personal. It's just war.

and many of us predicted a rise of the nationalists and rightwing of Europe

she ditched her rightwing father, maybe the party will move from far-right to a position closer to the French center, a far right party slowly move to the political middle of France?

https://twitter.com/Bad_Sweary_Frog/status/627722273030569985

https://twitter.com/WorthingUKIP/status/673858255882461184

KPO

Wednesday, December 9, 2015 8:57 PM (P)

Signy - "Now, possibly, the USA is getting kicked out of Iraq, lock, stock, and barrel."

It's not personal. It's just war.

KPO

Thursday, December 10, 2015 6:56 PM (P)

Russia pledges not to stand in the way of Paris climate deal - http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/dec/07/russia-pledges-not-
to-stand-in-the-way-of-paris-climate-deal

kpo: I won't be surprised if Russian negotiators do in fact hold up the climate deal.

Bit of a tentative prediction, but an interesting one to watch...

EDIT: Having said that, here's some analysis that says that Russia has a good deck of cards and is unlikely to spring surprises - http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/paris-climate-talks-russia-will-use-its-huge-
forests-bargaining-chip-cop21-1529685

It's not personal. It's just war.

KPO

Thursday, December 10, 2015 11:53 PM (P)

Fierce Kremlin critic Garry Kasparov - "If oil goes below $20, Putin will cross #NATO borders"

It's not personal. It's just war.

SIGNYM

Friday, December 11, 2015 2:28 AM (P)

Quote:

Signy - "Now, possibly, the USA is getting kicked out of Iraq, lock, stock, and barrel."

I underlined the word "possibly" just in case you missed it. You should notice that I didn't even use the word "probably" ... which means"more likely than not" ... so my statement hardly qualifies as a "prediction", altho you seem pretty desperate to shoehorn it into that category.

Careful KPO, your biases are showing.

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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

KPO

Friday, December 11, 2015 4:41 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Signy - "Now, possibly, the USA is getting kicked out of Iraq, lock, stock, and barrel."

I underlined the word "possibly" just in case you missed it. You should notice that I didn't even use the word "probably" ... which means"more likely than not" ... so my statement hardly qualifies as a "prediction", altho you seem pretty desperate to shoehorn it into that category.

Careful KPO, your biases are showing.

Do you remember your long post of predictions for Ukraine back in early 2014, some of which came off? Do you remember how you introduced them?

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Plausible future news:

'Plausible' being another word for 'possible'. If you are going to crow repeatedly over your tentative predictions when they come off, as you have done, then you can't complain if all your other tentative predictions get recorded, so that people can see what your record is truly like.

It's not personal. It's just war.

1KIKI

Friday, December 11, 2015 8:31 AM (P)

So, you are going to call something a prediction when the word 'possibly' is underlined in the original?

Are you going to stand by that?

SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

KPO

Sunday, December 13, 2015 4:45 AM (P)

Signy - "The reform of the IMF lending policy is unlikely to help Ukraine avert default. Kiev may soon declare a technical default, the first step to bankruptcy."

It's not personal. It's just war.

KPO

Sunday, December 13, 2015 6:18 PM (P)

Hmm, ex-president of Georgia and sworn enemy of Putin Saakashvili predicted the Russian annexation of Crimea, and war in Ukraine:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/03/03/russia-is-looking-for
-a-hot-war-says-georgia-s-former-president.html

Quote:
“Right now my advice to the Ukraine government is to maintain maximum restraint, but to prepare for the worst, because I don’t think Vladimir Putin is going to stop where he is. He is not going to stop anywhere until he gets rid of the leadership in Kiev,” Saakashvili said in an interview with The Daily Beast on Monday. “The West should be ready that there might be a war here.”

...

There are multiple Russian intelligence organizations stirring up trouble all over Ukraine’s south and east with a goal of preparing a pretext for a large-scale military intervention, he said. The huge military exercises currently ongoing on the Russian side of the border are of the same scale to those that immediately preceded the Russian invasion of Georgia, he pointed out. Russia is also putting out massive amounts of propaganda to establish a narrative that could support a large scale intervention, again eerily similar to their actions in 2008.

Quote:

By 2011, Saakashvili was practically badgering U.S. officials to take seriously his warning that Putin would move on Crimea sooner or later. Another released cable revealed that Saakashvili pressed then Assistant Secretary of Defense Sandy Vershbow (now Deputy Secretary General of NATO) to prepare for this exact event.

“Saakashvili stressed repeatedly that he expected Russia to follow its 2008 invasion of Georgia with intervention in Crimea,” the cable stated. “He predicted that Russia would incite tension in the peninsula and then make a generous offer to Yanukovych (presumed as the next president) to help solve the problem. Saakashvili said that Putin wants to keep the pressure on Ukraine and Georgia as a lesson and a warning to others in the former Soviet Union.”

The signs were there, it seems.

It's not personal. It's just war.

JAYNEZTOWN

Monday, December 14, 2015 12:08 AM (P)

Quote:

Quote:

good website http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Jealous?

So will it break TWENTY by the time Obama finishes, I know it was a big scandal when Bush sent the debt from 9 trillion to 10 trillion breaking the NYC debt clock and forcing them to add an extra digit

1KIKI

Monday, December 14, 2015 12:47 AM (P)

Friday, December 11, 2015 5:16 AM
kpo - If I wanted to point out truth being 'manufactured' in Russian media, I wouldn't have to go back more than a couple of weeks.

The clock's ticking on this one.

SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

KPO

Tuesday, December 15, 2015 11:35 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Friday, December 11, 2015 5:16 AM
kpo - If I wanted to point out truth being 'manufactured' in Russian media, I wouldn't have to go back more than a couple of weeks.

The clock's ticking on this one.

If you want to make a prediction on this kiki why don't you go ahead and make one?

It's not personal. It's just war.

KPO

Tuesday, December 15, 2015 11:38 PM (P)

Quote:
So will it break TWENTY by the time Obama finishes

By my maths it's on course to break 19 trillion, but not 20.

It's not personal. It's just war.

JAYNEZTOWN

Wednesday, December 16, 2015 5:03 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
If people don't run from Hillary, their tingly-spidey-sense is broken.

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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

It's sad how the US mainstream media is done, I never thought I would see the today where I would be going to R today to here about reports inside the USA basically the pravda USSR Ruskie media...
Michael Rivero is a woo woo tinfoil head

but less woo woo tinfoil than Alex Jones, David Icke....

you got to admit its a sad day when some the tinfoil heads turn out to make more accurate reports than mainstream media, I guess that is why they call it dinosaur mainstream news. Both parties are a joke now, both are war parties, President Bush began a string of expensive financial bailouts. President Obama began accelerating that course. British Liberal leader of the Labour party Blair agreed to act as a glorified spin doctor for the President by presenting ‘public affairs lines’ to convince a sceptical public that Saddam had Weapons of Mass Destruction – when none existed.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3277402/Smoking-gun-emails-rev
eal-Blair-s-deal-blood-George-Bush-Iraq-war-forged-YEAR-invasion-started.html
Swedish Companies Accused Of Profiting Off Refugee Housing
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=16057
Why the Middle Class Is in Revolt and Susceptible to a Dangerous 'Strongman'
"It was only a matter of time before the anxious class would revolt."
http://www.alternet.org/economy/robert-reich-why-middle-class-revolt-a
nd-susceptible-dangerous-strongman
The Trump WWE WWF history
http://www.freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2015/11/donald-trumps-preside
ntial-heel-turn.html
With Soaring Rents and a Vanishing Middle Class, San Francisco Becomes a City for the Rich
http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/34031-with-soaring-rents-and-a-vani
shing-middle-class-san-francisco-becomes-a-city-for-the-rich

JAYNEZTOWN

Wednesday, December 16, 2015 5:29 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by kpo:
Quote:
So will it break TWENTY by the time Obama finishes

By my maths it's on course to break 19 trillion, but not 20.

Yes he's gone next year but you haven't even considered the true run of the lame duck Presidency, the usual October surprise followed by November 2016, if its a close election then re-counts? Lame duck politicians are serving out their final terms because they have lost a re-election or are no longer eligible to serve. ...the elected Presidents don't enter office until January 15th or 18th or something in 2017? On this final year they sometimes vaction overseas to shakehands with Euro celebrities, issue presidential pardons, or worse the possibility the President and the US admin drops the ball and fumbles totally as what happened in Carter and the hostage crisis.... no solid data just feelings from Goldman/ECB shutting the Greek Euro banks, the loss of US manufacturing to China and a slowdown in China, a heated Presidential campaign from both sides, the US now spending more money on more wars and other factors looming, I just have a feeling its going to break 20 Tril

JAYNEZTOWN

Wednesday, December 16, 2015 6:51 AM (P)

Anyone see the mass media is getting more and more stooopid

Quote:
Originally posted by kpo:
Signy, on the Paris terrorist attacks:

"THE USA. Will certainly attempt to use the tragedy to unite various European nations/ entities (like NATO) to possibly put "boots on the ground" in Syria, to take over (or at least tag along) with the Russian anti-ISIL effort and ultimately topple Assad."

It's not personal. It's just war.

not sure if anyone is putting more than a few thousand boots there, the middle east will always be an islamic sandbox hole and you might need at least 120,000 to make a differce there...not sure where the people would come from the, will they come USA or is that a political taboo? Allies like Turkey when Turkish are so keen on stabbing the US in the back? The other option is to turn Raqqa to dust as Quinn in the episode of homeland predicted

personally I'm non-interventionist, pull up the draw bridge, raise your fences, close the gates
muslims will continue killing themselves in the middle east and for the USA its gonna be damned if you do and damned if you don't
The solution is make a sound dollar, bunker down and batten down the hatches....then pump money in to the US economy, US military at home (vets), into science and get ready for the next decade....its time to write these failures off....the USA got so strong after WW2 simply because it was a non-interventionist nation that cared for itself, perpetual war and crony capitalism reversed this great trend

JAYNEZTOWN

Wednesday, December 16, 2015 8:15 AM (P)

this one is for the regressive liberals who hated the Republican VP and said they would never agree with Dick Cheney on anything

https://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com/2015/12/08/jeb-marco-di
ck-dont-get-it-bring-in-the-muslims/

Quote:
Dick Cheney is the latest of the Republican establishment to come out in support of MORE Muslim migration to America.

JAYNEZTOWN

Wednesday, December 16, 2015 8:27 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by kpo:
BBC correspondents' predictions for 2013

The BBC is a f*cking disaster some do predict they will continue standing up for war mongers, banker crooks and pedophiles like Savile for the next 30 years

JAYNEZTOWN

Friday, December 18, 2015 12:48 AM (P)

Some US space progam predictions from another thread

Quote:
Originally posted by Opus:

The shuttle was originally sold as a space truck, we'd be launching one every week.
The space station was going to be this enormous structure with a crew of 8 or 9 with two of the crew dedicated to station up keep. The station was redesigned smaller and the crew complement dropped to 6, then 3 , now we're down to 2.
NASA should be shut down, everyone fired, all it's buildings, records and equipment destroyed and we should start from scratch. It is a hoplessly flawed entity.
This country needs a cabinet level position for Space Operations, and it needs to decide once and for all do we really want a manned space program, make it a national referendum, have the people vote yes or no. If no, then cancel it completely, if yes give it the realistic funding the it requires.

Quote:
Originally posted by Peace:

NASA has a reservoir of talented people and know-how that should not be dismantled and cast aside. Moreover, NASA is not just manned space flight-- it is also aerospace research and unmanned missions, which, right now, are the gleaming bright spots of our space efforts (two operational Mars rovers and Cassini-- hard to beat that). That aside, your point that America's space efforts, esp. manned space missions, need direction, goals, and funding, is well taken. Since the end of the moon missions manned flight at NASA has been floundering, purposeless and without a sense of direction. Part of the problem is that, as noted by others, NASA's funding has always been a political football. In that respect, I think we agree-- come up with something sensible, comprehensive and attainable with manned flight, or get off the launch pad and let somebody else have a shot.

Oh, bugger! Now I have to wait for someone to wake up!

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

Glad we're on Mars again, props to NASA, for doing what it was DESIGNED to do, ( and not teach Muslim nations to feel good about themselves ) and here's to continued success for Curiosity and her team !

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
" We're all just folk. " - Mal

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

Quote:
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
...(...[NASA]Budget cuts....)
But plenty and to spare for spy satellites to invade the privacy of, and harrass, americans.

Not so many folk have been payin attention, but the Chinese killed a couple of our "secret" spy satellites over a period of weeks - forgive me, I have to be vague on the timeline to protect a source...

And then later gave our intel folks a couple of strong hints that anything in orbit they felt was a threat or nuisance, wouldn't BE in orbit very long.

The whole issue slid under the notice of most folk, but I am sure NRO was gnashing their teeth about it - me, I wonder about the how, we'd have spotted a missle launch, so I am thinkin HERF, directed EMP, or even guidance system hack/jamming.

Considering how easily the signals from most sats are to decrypt, I strongly suspect the latter.

NASA sucks ass anyway, ten times the money for one hundreth of the effort, as with any Gov sponsored monopoly locked in mutual embrace with the Mil-Industrial Complex.

But gorram it, SOMEBODY build me a spaceship so I can get off this rock before we blow ourselves to hell, ok ?

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

So are we ever going to put a base on the Moon and Mars?

KPO

Friday, December 18, 2015 8:10 AM (P)

The recent climate deal in Paris inspired me to look back at an old debate I had with Geezer, where we each made predictions about the course of China's CO2 emissions, and the likelihood of it signing up to an effective deal. Here it is - http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=57289&p=1

Geezer - "China has a history of promising carbon reductions it can't meet... I don't expect them to do anything different now."

Geezer expresses strong doubt at the idea that China would make 'substantial decreases in emissions' as part of a climate deal.

kpo states reasons why China might sign up to a climate deal with binding targets, and decrease their emissions, or at least slow their growth.

kpo - "China's emissions ARE going to stabilise, just like all other developed countries have. That's a pretty safe prediction. I would say almost certainly the curve will start to bend soon, and that it probably has already."

Geezer - "I see no evidence that China will agree to a treaty with binding emissions targets"

Geezer - "I don't doubt they'll sign a deal if they think they can get targets that don't require them to do much reduction, and that if they sign an agreement that does, they'll break it."

Geezer cites past data to suggest that China's recent dip in CO2 emissions is a blip, and that emissions will go 'right back up', and he challenges kpo's assertion that China's emissions will plateau.

Geezer seems certain that China will increase 'its emissions by 2.45 times in the next seven years' to over 6.6 billion tonnes in 2020.

Geezer - "in 20 years, China's annual emissions could be seven times what they are now, close to 19 billion tonnes. Considering that the total world emissions for 2013 were 9.6 tonnes, Are you okay with this?"

kpo - "Setting emissions targets that see poor countries minimise emissions, while their economies grow, and developed countries cut emissions to offset this growth, is workable, and could produce a sustainable global fall in emissions quite soon."

Geezer - "The deal you're suggesting above, with your determination that China and other developing countries should be allowed major emissions increases, is not going to actually do any good in reducing emissions."

kpo - "Wrong, a climate deal would make global emissions peak and start to fall quite soon."

Geezer - "As noted above, I and others expect that China's emissions per capita will equal those of the U.S. shortly (between 2020 and 2025)"

It's not personal. It's just war.

JAYNEZTOWN

Saturday, December 19, 2015 8:35 AM (P)

and its possible the far left and far-right ain't much different now, more theatre all part of one stage show....if Sanders fan club suffers is the blue party done will the Regressive Leftist movement collapse into a hole? Independents Sanders and Trump rocking the Establishment? No finer representation of the revolution the USA needs – one in which people, not profit, are given primary consideration – than socialist Bernie Sanders whooping billionaire Donald Trump.....although personally I don't vote, I'm not even American....Jim Webb or Rand the son of Ron Paul might be more my guys.....Bernie Sanders began as a grassroots progressive protester back in the 1960’s....Aside from their Brooklyn roots, another thing Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump have in common is that they’re both ‘outsiders’. Trump may be rich and Sanders may be a US Senator, but neither man is welcome in America’s plutocratic elite corporate ruling oligarchy.

Sanders is being blocked?

Or is the a one in a million chance? Sanders quits goes Independent....Trump quits the Reds and later runs as a loudmouth VP with SANDERS....possibly the best chance for the USA?
but you also got the whole 'race' thing I mean ethnicity and voting heritage

'White and Asian American millennials have similar partisan profiles, with about a third identifying as Republicans, a third as Democrats, and a third as independents.'
https://reason.com/poll/2014/07/16/millennials-arent-more-democraticth
eyre
Millennials Aren’t More Democratic—They’re Just Less Republican

JO753

Sunday, December 20, 2015 2:38 AM (P)

I predict that gasoline will not get up to 3$ per gallon agen until most carz on the road are electric. So sumtime around 2030.

The bell iz tolling for the internal combustion fart machinez. The Tesla alredy beats most super carz in 0-60 timez and the battery tek iz improving all the time.

The effect will be cheaper & cheaper gas to compete with electric. Its regularly dipping under 2$ now. Dont be suprized to see it go under 1$ in the next 10 yirz.

After electrics basicly replace gas enjin carz, you will need to special order gas for your antique and it wont be cheap.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.nooalf.com

1KIKI

Sunday, December 20, 2015 6:13 AM (P)

Friday, December 11, 2015 5:16 AM
kpo - If I wanted to point out truth being 'manufactured' in Russian media, I wouldn't have to go back more than a couple of weeks.

Well THAT'S a prediction that doesn't look like it'll come true.

SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

JAYNEZTOWN

Monday, December 21, 2015 3:11 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:

good website http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Jealous?

ouch, verbally eaten alive

KPO

Tuesday, December 22, 2015 10:59 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Friday, December 11, 2015 5:16 AM
kpo - If I wanted to point out truth being 'manufactured' in Russian media, I wouldn't have to go back more than a couple of weeks.

Well THAT'S a prediction that doesn't look like it'll come true.

Dearest kiki. You see those words "If I wanted to"? That means it's not a prediction, unless I want to.

#logic #you'rewelcome

It's not personal. It's just war.

1KIKI

Sunday, December 27, 2015 4:28 AM (P)

example only: If I wanted to, I could fly just by mental powers alone.

That's a prediction, exactly like your prediction, which needs to be proved true, or it remains false. Meanwhile, your deadline expired on Christmas. Hope it was merry death for your prediction.
Friday, December 11, 2015 5:16 AM

SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

KPO

Sunday, December 27, 2015 6:58 AM (P)

Quote:
example only: If I wanted to, I could fly just by mental powers alone.

That's a prediction,

Err no, because it's dependent on you wanting to.

Meanwhile:

Signy: "The unanimous UN Security Council resolution on the roadmap to peace, for which the American representative voted in the affirmative, indicates to me that deposing Assad is a dead issue, at least for the USA."

It's not personal. It's just war.

KPO

Thursday, January 7, 2016 8:24 PM (P)

Signy: "have you looked at the Baltic Dry Index, the USA participation rate, USA trucking indices, USA manufacturer's orders, and commodity prices lately? They are pointing to a huge - and I mean HUGE - contraction underway. And if you're Albertan, or you live in fracking state where large percentages of state income come from oil, well, it'll suck to be you."

Is this a prediction, or an analysis of the present, or both?? Well here it is, people can make up their minds.

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SIGNY: "You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns."

Grozny, Russia, 2000:

KPO

Friday, January 8, 2016 6:15 AM (P)

THGRRI: "As conditions in Russia worsen and Putin's favaroble numbers start to drop look to Putin to send troops into Kazakhstan or Belarus... Likewise, the Moldovan region of Transdniester is fairly ripe for Russian intervention."

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SIGNY: "You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns."

Grozny, Russia, 2000:

JAYNEZTOWN

Monday, January 11, 2016 8:04 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
"For the record I wouldn't rule out a messy Greek default myself, but for different reasons, e.g. Greece's crazy, far-left populist government."

I'm really curious if you can outline how an alternative to default is even possible, irrespective of government.

SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

Anyone see violence, rapes and riots and looting across Europe this Summer??

Sounds like the Police and Border patrol are in for a tough time

JAYNEZTOWN

Sunday, January 17, 2016 11:15 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
I could see how an attack by Israel on Iran could come out of the blue and really blow a lot of predictions out of the water

You missed this one

US Navy sailors are captured

SIGNYM

Sunday, January 17, 2016 11:49 PM (P)

JAYNZE, you post far too many vids. Sometimes vids simply cannot be summarized, but for a news item (Iran captures US sailors) it's hardly necessary!

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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

JO753

Tuesday, January 19, 2016 5:34 AM (P)

The prise uv gas iz dropping even farther than I expected.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2016/01/18/gas-price-fell-77-cents
-one-michigan-site/78957822/

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.nooalf.com

KPO

Saturday, January 23, 2016 6:08 PM (P)

Signy - "almost every nation on the globe is staring at an economic recession or outright collapse, and most western nations are staring at another potential financial collapse."

KPO

Saturday, January 23, 2016 6:53 PM (P)

Signy - "Russia seems to be adopting a different approach: Fortress Russia. Fill the moat, pull up the drawbridge, and wait until the trampling and panic elsewhere subsides. The plan seems to be to become self-sufficient in food, pharmaceutics, autos, and some other necessities and just wait out the disruptions.

The major USA export is money. Literally. But since the USD-denominated debt is something like 6-10 TIMES the world GDP, it's hard to see the USA delaying too much longer the day when those debts come due."

JAYNEZTOWN

Monday, January 25, 2016 6:40 AM (P)

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Originally posted by THGRRI:

notice you've gone quiet on this whole rioting, refugee, rape thing

lots of vids out there

all kinds of opinion, right, left, tinfoil conspiracy....

Czech President Says Muslim Are Not Civilized Enough For Europe

"Refugees, welcome" spirit wanes after Cologne attacks

MASS RAPE in Cologne Germany : Refugees STILL Welcome!

Eye witness-Muslims attack civilians and police in Cologne, Germany

Kassam Schools

Cologne Riot - Yet another first person account

White War Refugees not Allowed

France Announces Permanent Police State Until IS Militants Defeated

Aftermath of the #Cologne New Years Eve Attacks

It's Their Fault, They Where Sexually Assaulted!

JO753

Monday, January 25, 2016 10:50 AM (P)

Windowless carz!

Glass iz hevy and making up for the structural penalty uv interupting the surfase addz even more wate. So, with self driving carz bekuming common by 2025, glass will be unesusery. Insted, you will put on a VR vizor if you want to see outside andor there will be hemisferical view screenz.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.nooalf.com

KPO

Monday, January 25, 2016 5:12 PM (P)

Quote:
notice you've gone quiet on this whole rioting, refugee, rape thing

lots of vids out there

Jayneztown STOP spamming the thread with videos.

JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, January 28, 2016 8:33 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
If people don't run from Hillary, their tingly-spidey-sense is broken.

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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

with the whole Flint thing will 'water' or lack of or droughts or chemcial pollution, will these be an election issue?

JAYNEZTOWN

Tuesday, February 2, 2016 7:04 AM (P)

I predict the Regressive Left debate will start trending, off the charts

http://polsciblogg.blogspot.com/2015/10/the-regressive-left.html

The Regressive Left
We often spend a lot of time debating the ideologies of the Republicans and the Democrats that we forget that there are debates within their own camps. One of such debates in the Democratic camp is centered on the uprising of fundamentalist Islam and how we address this issue in our discourse.
Here is the divide- a majority of liberals are afraid to criticize the doctrine of Islam either because they see the theology of Islam as not the real problem or because they are afraid of the ramifications. This group of liberals have been phrased “the regressive left” by author and neuroscientist Sam Harris whom has been debating this topic since the attacks on 9-11.
They are called the regressive left because these liberals do not stand up for liberal principles. For example, when a terrorist attack occurred at Charlie Hebdo in France, even CNN pundits were asking questions like “did the cartoonists take a joke too far?” To ask this question is moral bankruptcy. As Sam Harris responded, “Cartoonists have died for making cartoons, end of moral analysis.”

---- civi --

The Seven Regressive Sins of Islam Apologetics

1. Deny the problem / blame the messenger

Despite its intellectual laziness, this sin is actually very common, and it is often used as the first cop-out in a discussion, especially by people who know very little about Islam, yet feel the regressive urge to "defend Muslims". When an Islam-related problem is mentioned, when, for example, the catastrophic situation of women throughout the Islamic world is brought up, the problem is simply denied. Either it doesn't exist at all, or it is much smaller and therefore essentially not worth discussing, or it has “nothing to do with Islam”.

And not only is the problem downplayed and ignored. Regressives don't stop there. Instead, they start smearing the person who brought up the problem. They blame the messenger. I find it truly fascinating how often I, as someone on the left, has been called a "right-wing bigot", a "neonazi", a "fascist", a "neocon", and whatever ridiculous labels have been thrown out there. And I am in good company. Geert Wilders, Sam Harris, Bill Maher, or Ayaan Hirsi Ali, to just name a few, are all left-leaning, liberal-minded people who have been smeared by use of all of the above terms. Rather then listen to the arguments these people have to make, it is so much easier to slander and thereby discredit them, and in consequence not to have to worry about anything they say, since the problems they mention are simply denied.

The "blame the messenger" attitude is not limited to individuals. When data, i.e. by surveys or statistics are brought up, many regressives will start questioning the studies. They would instantly use them for their own arguments if they supported their opinion (which, unfortunately for them, they never do when it comes to Islam), but since they don't like the conclusions of the study, the whole study is simply dismissed.

Gad Saad has coined the term "ostrich brigade". Like ostriches, regressives feel uncomfortable having to face certain real-world problems, so they stick their heads in the sand and pretend the problem doesn't exist. The difficulty, of course, is that denying a problem is essentially just as bad as the problem itself. If your leg is on fire, that is a problem. But denying that your leg is on fire, and possibly insulting the bystanders who inform you about the problem, is in effect just as consequential, since it removes the need to do anything about it.

2. Zoom out

If, due to the incoming overwhelming evidence, denying the problem is no longer possible without looking like an utter loon, regressives often resort to the zooming-out strategy. Instead of talking about certain subgroups of Muslims who display

KPO

Tuesday, March 8, 2016 8:39 PM (P)

Signy - "Erdogan's control over Turkey... [is] falling apart."

2016 elections predictions thread - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60411

KPO

Thursday, March 10, 2016 2:28 AM (P)

Reaverfan on Bernie Sanders - "I think he'll rout Hillary and become our next president"

THGRRI

Thursday, March 10, 2016 2:56 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by kpo:

Reaverfan on Bernie Sanders - "I think he'll rout Hillary and become our next president"

First off. The red type is hard to read. Secondly, wow I don't think reaverfan really understands that from here on out Sanders ( as much as I like him ) is about to lose the nomination to Hillary in short order. The states he was going to win are behind him now.

REAVERFAN

Saturday, March 12, 2016 2:49 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:
Originally posted by kpo:

Reaverfan on Bernie Sanders - "I think he'll rout Hillary and become our next president"

First off. The red type is hard to read. Secondly, wow I don't think reaverfan really understands that from here on out Sanders ( as much as I like him ) is about to lose the nomination to Hillary in short order. The states he was going to win are behind him now.

Actually, all the southern states are done voting. We're going into purple and blue states, which are a lot more like Michigan, where he enjoyed an unprecedented, historic upset.

If the folks who like him turn out to vote, he will win.

THGRRI

Saturday, March 12, 2016 3:21 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:
Originally posted by kpo:

Reaverfan on Bernie Sanders - "I think he'll rout Hillary and become our next president"

First off. The red type is hard to read. Secondly, wow I don't think reaverfan really understands that from here on out Sanders ( as much as I like him ) is about to lose the nomination to Hillary in short order. The states he was going to win are behind him now.
Actually, all the southern states are done voting. We're going into purple and blue states, which are a lot more like Michigan, where he enjoyed an unprecedented, historic upset.

If the folks who like him turn out to vote, he will win.

I'll just say there are some big states coming into play and that is going to end any chance he never really had. Also, I love the fact that Hillary now has to deal with outsourcing in a way she didn't before Bernie showed up.

KPO

Friday, March 18, 2016 5:49 AM (P)

1kiki - "If Trump was president, he'd have congressional opposition from BOTH the democrats AND the republicans.

He would literally not be able to get anything done. The idea of how dysfunctional his term would be is funny! "

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