Trump: Prostitutes, Golden Showers and 'Kompromat'
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Watersportsgate. The rumours have been swirling for months apparently, that Putin has seriously comprising material (or 'Kompromat') on Trump, from one or many of his Moscow business trips. Is this the reason Trump's rhetoric, foreign policy and cabinet picks are all so favourably configured towards Russia?
All unverified at the moment, but Obama and the president elect have both been briefed on this, so it's obvious the US security services are taking this seriously.
Some links:
Paul Wood, a senior BBC correspondent discusses his multiple sources corroborating the story - http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/01/can-donald-trump-really-compromis
ed-agent-russian-influence/
A background in the art of 'Kompromat' in Russia by the security services to discredit and control politicians - https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/01/kompromat-tr
ump-dossier/512891/
A profile of the British spy who put together the dossier (now in hiding, ostensibly in fear of his life) - a respected, ex-MI6 Russia expert who first cottoned on to the killing of Russian dissident Litvinenko by polonium tea -
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/12/intelligence-sources-v
ouch-credibility-donald-trump-russia-dossier-author?CMP=share_btn_tw
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This whole thing couldn't get any more surreal if you made it into an Twilight Zone episode. I keep waiting to find that one news article that explains why all this was allowed to happen like "We were trying to draw out a linchpin to stop WWIII" or some other piece of rational thought.
It was all just a joke, folks...
I didn't like Obama, but Trump makes Obama look like a saint.
I don't get it....
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They have to look into it KPO for reasons to numerous to list. I would suggest that it appears to be fake news. Since SIG, 1kiki, and Jaynztown are our purveyors of fake news, you should refrain from it to avoid the label of liar that they now hold.
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Quote:There Are Four Sources For Claims of Possible Trump-Russia Blackmail
Originally posted by THGRRI:
They have to look into it KPO for reasons too numerous to list. I would suggest that it appears to be fake news.
There are four sources, though obviously we don't know if they're all getting their information from the same place. Nor do we know if any of this is true. It might still all be baseless innuendo.
Still, four sources. The BBC's Paul Wood is either a world-class crank or a helluva reporter. And we never would have known any of this if BuzzFeed hadn't gone ahead and published that dossier.
Here are the four sources and yet more detail on allegations that the Russians have possession of blackmail tapes on Donald Trump:
1) Claims about a Russian blackmail tape were made in one of a series of reports written by a former British intelligence agent. As a member of MI6, he had been posted to the UK's embassy in Moscow and now runs a consultancy giving advice on doing business in Russia. He spoke to a number of his old contacts in the FSB, the successor to the KGB, paying some of them for information.
2) ....The former MI6 agent is not the only source for the claim about Russian kompromat on the president-elect. Back in August, a retired spy told me he had been informed of its existence by "the head of an East European intelligence agency".
3) Later, I used an intermediary to pass some questions to active duty CIA officers dealing with the case file — they would not speak to me directly. I got a message back that there was "more than one tape", "audio and video", on "more than one date", in "more than one place" — in the Ritz-Carlton in Moscow and also in St Petersburg — and that the material was "of a sexual nature". The claims of Russian kompromat on Mr Trump were "credible", the CIA believed.
....Last April, the CIA director was shown intelligence that worried him. It was — allegedly — a tape recording of a conversation about money from the Kremlin going into the US presidential campaign.
4) It was passed to the US by an intelligence agency of one of the Baltic States. The CIA cannot act domestically against American citizens so a joint counter-intelligence taskforce was created....A lawyer — outside the Department of Justice but familiar with the case — told me that three of Mr Trump's associates were the subject of the inquiry. "But it's clear this is about Trump," he said.
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/01/bbcs-paul-wood-there-are-four-s
ources-possible-trump-russia-blackmail
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Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:There Are Four Sources For Claims of Possible Trump-Russia Blackmail
Originally posted by THGRRI:
They have to look into it KPO for reasons too numerous to list. I would suggest that it appears to be fake news.
There are four sources, though obviously we don't know if they're all getting their information from the same place. Nor do we know if any of this is true. It might still all be baseless innuendo.
Still, four sources. The BBC's Paul Wood is either a world-class crank or a helluva reporter. And we never would have known any of this if BuzzFeed hadn't gone ahead and published that dossier.
Here are the four sources and yet more detail on allegations that the Russians have possession of blackmail tapes on Donald Trump:
1) Claims about a Russian blackmail tape were made in one of a series of reports written by a former British intelligence agent. As a member of MI6, he had been posted to the UK's embassy in Moscow and now runs a consultancy giving advice on doing business in Russia. He spoke to a number of his old contacts in the FSB, the successor to the KGB, paying some of them for information.
2) ....The former MI6 agent is not the only source for the claim about Russian kompromat on the president-elect. Back in August, a retired spy told me he had been informed of its existence by "the head of an East European intelligence agency".
3) Later, I used an intermediary to pass some questions to active duty CIA officers dealing with the case file — they would not speak to me directly. I got a message back that there was "more than one tape", "audio and video", on "more than one date", in "more than one place" — in the Ritz-Carlton in Moscow and also in St Petersburg — and that the material was "of a sexual nature". The claims of Russian kompromat on Mr Trump were "credible", the CIA believed.
....Last April, the CIA director was shown intelligence that worried him. It was — allegedly — a tape recording of a conversation about money from the Kremlin going into the US presidential campaign.
4) It was passed to the US by an intelligence agency of one of the Baltic States. The CIA cannot act domestically against American citizens so a joint counter-intelligence taskforce was created....A lawyer — outside the Department of Justice but familiar with the case — told me that three of Mr Trump's associates were the subject of the inquiry. "But it's clear this is about Trump," he said.
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/01/bbcs-paul-wood-there-are-four-s
ources-possible-trump-russia-blackmail
This has been in the background for months. Our intelligence and news agencies have tried to validate, ANY , of the talking points in the report. They have yet to do so. Therefore, I do not give any credence to it. Nor do I see any legitimate reason for a discussion of it in these threads or the mainstream news.
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Quote:The intel and news agencies know that Trump has no shame, so it is impossible to blackmail him with sex-tapes. Trump would say, "So what? She was 18. Show it on TV. I don't care." Remember when Trump said I could 'shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters'. It is the same old.
Originally posted by THGRRI:
This has been in the background for months. Our intelligence and news agencies have tried to validate, ANY , of the talking points in the report. They have yet to do so. Therefore, I do not give any credence to it. Nor do I see any legitimate reason for a discussion of it in these threads or the mainstream news.
How do you blackmail a guy like that?
www.cnn.com/2016/01/23/politics/donald-trump-shoot-somebody-support/
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Meanwhile Epstein has blackmail tapes on the Clintons on Lolita Express and Pedophile Island....
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Trust me, it's only going to get better from here on out. This little news cycle is the tip of the iceberg. And yes, this is the cruelest joke on all of us. FUCKING TRUMP!!!
He's going to get "presidential" any minute now!
SGG
Quote:
Originally posted by Wishimay:
This whole thing couldn't get any more surreal if you made it into an Twilight Zone episode. I keep waiting to find that one news article that explains why all this was allowed to happen like "We were trying to draw out a linchpin to stop WWIII" or some other piece of rational thought.
It was all just a joke, folks...
I didn't like Obama, but Trump makes Obama look like a saint.
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Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:The intel and news agencies know that Trump has no shame, so it is impossible to blackmail him with sex-tapes. Trump would say, "So what? She was 18. Show it on TV. I don't care." Remember when Trump said I could 'shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters'. It is the same old.
Originally posted by THGRRI:
This has been in the background for months. Our intelligence and news agencies have tried to validate, ANY , of the talking points in the report. They have yet to do so. Therefore, I do not give any credence to it. Nor do I see any legitimate reason for a discussion of it in these threads or the mainstream news.
How do you blackmail a guy like that?
www.cnn.com/2016/01/23/politics/donald-trump-shoot-somebody-support/
Not the point I think. Just as I believe he will probably do something to be impeached has nothing to do with the title of this thread.
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It's fake news. Just like WMD. Anyone who believes it is being played.
Worse, the people carrying this forward will irreparably ruin their credibility, like the boy who cried wolf. And IF by some chance they happen to stumble on something important, no one will listen.
How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
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for the record
Quote:
Originally posted by kpo:
Watersportsgate. The rumours have been swirling for months apparently, that Putin has seriously comprising material (or 'Kompromat') on Trump, from one or many of his Moscow business trips. Is this the reason Trump's rhetoric, foreign policy and cabinet picks are all so favourably configured towards Russia?
All unverified at the moment, but Obama and the president elect have both been briefed on this, so it's obvious the US security services are taking this seriously.
Some links:
Paul Wood, a senior BBC correspondent discusses his multiple sources corroborating the story - http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/01/can-donald-trump-really-compromis
ed-agent-russian-influence/
A background in the art of 'Kompromat' in Russia by the security services to discredit and control politicians - https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/01/kompromat-tr
ump-dossier/512891/
A profile of the British spy who put together the dossier (now in hiding, ostensibly in fear of his life) - a respected, ex-MI6 Russia expert who first cottoned on to the killing of Russian dissident Litvinenko by polonium tea -
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/12/intelligence-sources-v
ouch-credibility-donald-trump-russia-dossier-author?CMP=share_btn_tw
How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
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for the record
Quote:
Originally posted by G:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/11/us/politics/donald-trump-russia-int
elligence.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=a-lede-package-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
A good time line from NYT - it's a bit of a mess without a script!
So - show of hands: who thinks the president elect p*ssy grabber didn't get up to some naughty sh*t while being wined and dined in Russia? If that goofy elf from Entertainment Tonight can get him on tape anyone can. I bet it is epic stuff.
How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
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for the record
Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Trust me, it's only going to get better from here on out. This little news cycle is the tip of the iceberg. And yes, this is the cruelest joke on all of us. FUCKING TRUMP!!!
He's going to get "presidential" any minute now!
SGG
How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
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for the record
Quote:
Originally posted by Wishimay:
This whole thing couldn't get any more surreal if you made it into an Twilight Zone episode. I keep waiting to find that one news article that explains why all this was allowed to happen like "We were trying to draw out a linchpin to stop WWIII" or some other piece of rational thought.
It was all just a joke, folks...
I didn't like Obama, but Trump makes Obama look like a saint.
How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
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for the record
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
There are four sources, though obviously we don't know if they're all getting their information from the same place. Nor do we know if any of this is true. It might still all be baseless innuendo.
Still, four sources. The BBC's Paul Wood is either a world-class crank or a helluva reporter. And we never would have known any of this if BuzzFeed hadn't gone ahead and published that dossier.
Here are the four sources and yet more detail on allegations that the Russians have possession of blackmail tapes on Donald Trump:
1) Claims about a Russian blackmail tape were made in one of a series of reports written by a former British intelligence agent. As a member of MI6, he had been posted to the UK's embassy in Moscow and now runs a consultancy giving advice on doing business in Russia. He spoke to a number of his old contacts in the FSB, the successor to the KGB, paying some of them for information.
2) ....The former MI6 agent is not the only source for the claim about Russian kompromat on the president-elect. Back in August, a retired spy told me he had been informed of its existence by "the head of an East European intelligence agency".
3) Later, I used an intermediary to pass some questions to active duty CIA officers dealing with the case file — they would not speak to me directly. I got a message back that there was "more than one tape", "audio and video", on "more than one date", in "more than one place" — in the Ritz-Carlton in Moscow and also in St Petersburg — and that the material was "of a sexual nature". The claims of Russian kompromat on Mr Trump were "credible", the CIA believed.
....Last April, the CIA director was shown intelligence that worried him. It was — allegedly — a tape recording of a conversation about money from the Kremlin going into the US presidential campaign.
4) It was passed to the US by an intelligence agency of one of the Baltic States. The CIA cannot act domestically against American citizens so a joint counter-intelligence taskforce was created....A lawyer — outside the Department of Justice but familiar with the case — told me that three of Mr Trump's associates were the subject of the inquiry. "But it's clear this is about Trump," he said.
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/01/bbcs-paul-wood-there-are-four-s
ources-possible-trump-russia-blackmail
How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
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It really is pathetic how some are conducting themselves now. The level of outright disrespect by some crybabies is staggering. Calling the president elect "pussy grabber" is just the same as somebody here calling Obama the N word before he took office.
They sure do cry a lot.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It really is pathetic how some are conducting themselves now. The level of outright disrespect by some crybabies is staggering. Calling the president elect "pussy grabber" is just the same as somebody here calling Obama the N word before he took office.
They sure do cry a lot.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Trump and Clinton were possibly the scummiest two candidates for President in the history of the country. It's only natural that there was gonna be great animosity towards whoever won.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Calling the president elect "pussy grabber" is just the same as somebody here calling Obama the N word before he took office.
You're really just ...
unbelievable....You know they have him ON TAPE saying that, right?
He literally implied if you grab a woman by the pussy you can do what you want and they won't say anything.
He's a RAPIST if he's done that. Touching anyone's genitalia without permission is assault.
It's why reasonable people believe he's done all kinds of nasty with all kinds of prostitutes, and probably 13 yr old girls. Because he's a skeeve.
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Originally posted by Wishimay:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Calling the president elect "pussy grabber" is just the same as somebody here calling Obama the N word before he took office.
You're really just ...
You know they have him ON TAPE saying that, right?
He literally implied if you grab a woman by the pussy you can do what you want and they won't say anything.
He's a RAPIST if he's done that. Touching anyone's genitalia without permission is assault.
It's why reasonable people believe he's done all kinds of nasty with all kinds of prostitutes, and probably 13 yr old girls. Because he's a skeeve.
I saw the tape. The entire tape, not just the 2 seconds you and everyone else keeps saying.
I'm not going to defend the overall conversation, as he was no doubt degrading women (of dubious character themselves), but he also was bragging about how these gold diggers let you do whatever you want when you have money and power. He spoke of consent in the VERY SAME SENTENCE as the part you and 65 million other people keep taking out of context.
And there you go again, taking things from wrong to outright crazy by saying he probably molests 13 year olds cause "Reasons".
You seriously need to get on some pills or something Wish, and stop watching whatever feminist SJW crap you've been watching. When I first met you, you always seemed happy and you lovingly called your husband "Hubby" and talked about stuff you guys were doing. You're quickly turning into a bitter and judgemental man-hater.
EDITED TO ADD: Rather than argue with you, I've been largely ignoring your posts because I always liked you. I don't know if you realize that you seem to have a vendetta against me and you seem to personally attack me every chance you get. I can't say I appreciate that none to much.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Except that's not what he said. What he said was "... and when you're a star THEY LET YOU DO IT." Not that Trump is speaking very highly of women, but it's not what you think either. Why don't you judge for yourself.
You're really just ... unbelievable....
You know they have him ON TAPE saying that, right?
He literally implied if you grab a woman by the pussy you can do what you want and they won't say anything.= WISH
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If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
"If you aren't aware, Texans don't have much concern for the well-being of Yankees or Californians, even Yankee factory workers in Indiana "- SECOND
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And for the record:
It's not surprising that KPO, G, WISH, SECOND, and SHINY were bamboozled by a piece of fake news. Seriously, doods, isn't there anything more real to post about?
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If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
"If you aren't aware, Texans don't have much concern for the well-being of Yankees or Californians, even Yankee factory workers in Indiana "- SECOND
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And for the record:
It's not surprising that KPO, G, WISH, SECOND, and SHINY were bamboozled by a piece of fake news. Seriously, doods, isn't there anything more real to post about?
The scary thing is that it's not just them. My brother lived with me for a few years after he got out of the army. At the time he came out during the Bush administration, he was a "good soldier". It took me a few years to get him to see the bullshit and the lies. There was no way he was going to vote for Hillary, but he didn't vote for Trump either, and this was one of the reasons he spouted off about why he couldn't vote for Trump.
He doesn't keep up on news like he used to now that he has a wife and kid and a few dogs. He gets his news in sound bytes and word of mouth and it wasn't until after I showed him the video of this incident, as well as what he said about illegal immigrants that he was shocked at how wrong the narrative was.
People on the far Right and Left were always going to vote for their side. Fortunately, enough people "in the middle" are just so sick of the bullshit that these things didn't even matter to them in the end.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Except that's not what he said. What he said was "... and when you're a star THEY LET YOU DO IT."
THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE IN MINDSET.
HE STILL THINKS HE CAN DO WHAT HE WANTS TO WOMEN AND GET AWAY WITH IT.
I can't believe ANY of you would defend that in any way shape or form.
Truly disgusting.
The man is a PERV.He wouldn't have said it if he hadn't DONE it. And women usually don't want to say anything because they don't want to get in a battle of "he said, she said" knowing it would bankrupt them.
Not because they give a SHIT about getting his money.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You seriously need to get on some pills or something Wish, and stop watching whatever feminist SJW crap you've been watching.
I don't know if you realize that you seem to have a vendetta against me and you seem to personally attack me every chance you get. I can't say I appreciate that none to much.
You seriously need to stop defending skeeves because you both have a penis.
Saying you would kill yourself if Hillary got elected is the dumbest thing I've ever seen on this board and there is some freakishly stupid shit posted here.
I'm the only one calling you out because everyone else know you are NUTS and don't wanna GO THERE. I'm tired of tip-toing around the crazy.
You don't wanna be picked on?? Stop saying such stupid shit!
You want people to feel sorry for you and your teeth WHEN YOU DID IT TO YOURSELF, and probably STILL ARE. Why would ANYONE want to help someone who doesn't care enough about themselves to STOP???? Oh, that's right...You are only in this for the sympathy and the attention. Poor Six...He's so fucked....
You keep talking about what a genius you are FOR WORKING MINIMUM WAGE JOBS AND BRAGGING ABOUT RIPPING OFF OTHER PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR A LIVING!! Yer damn right I take offence to that!!
If you had your way you would've forced a woman to have a baby and raise it with a drunken deadbeat father. Throw in a little meth and you would make a perfect role model from hell. I'd bet your house looks like something from hoarders, and you haven't mowed the lawn in a couple years too
Finally, you go on benders and think RWED is your personal dumping ground for bad language, hundreds of pages of diatribe about YOU and YOUR music because YOU are a HUUUUGE NARCISIST, and I'm done enabling your behaviors.
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Originally posted by Wishimay:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Except that's not what he said. What he said was "... and when you're a star THEY LET YOU DO IT."
THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE IN MINDSET.
HE STILL THINKS HE CAN DO WHAT HE WANTS TO WOMEN AND GET AWAY WITH IT.
I can't believe ANY of you would defend that in any way shape or form.
Truly disgusting.
He wouldn't have said it if he hadn't DONE it. And women usually don't want to say anything because they don't want to get in a battle of "he said, she said" knowing it would bankrupt them.
Not because they give a SHIT about getting his money.
Don't hate the player, hate the game.
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Quote:Now THAT is pretty funny!
He wouldn't have said it if he hadn't DONE it.- WISHY
Didn't you hear the guys in the bus? They were sniggering like 13-year-olds. Whatever was going on sounded like nothing more than little boys trying to top each other. I think the whole conversation is disgusting, but not because anybody was "admitting" anything but because these men were so puerile. Why didn't they just take out their dicks and measure them?
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You think it was just a puerile discussion.
I think (after reading the accounts of a dozen women who have said that he's done it to THEM) that he's mental and believes he has a RIGHT to abuse women.
The fact is Clinton was accused and it came out later what he had done.
Obama was NOT accused and nothing has ever come out that he has done anything untoward with women.
Trump HAS been accused, and now it's all coming to the surface. This is how these things work. Money only can hide depraved and insane for so long....
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I think (after reading the accounts of a dozen women who have said that he's done it to THEM) that he's mental and believes he has a RIGHT to abuse women.- WISHY
Some of those women alleged things that couldn't possibly have happened, such as the woman who claimed Trump came on to her at a concert in FL when no such concert had been scheduled for anywhere near that time, or the woman who claimed that Trump groped her on a plane when the armrests between the seats were fixed, not able to be moved.
Except for events that appear to have been debunked, I neither believe nor disbelieve that they happened. Unless some EVIDENCE comes forward in either (or both!) directions, it takes more than an allegation (an accusation without evidence) to convince me. You seem to believe that a blizzard of allegations MUST mean there is something behind them .... yanno, like the blizzard of "Iraq WMD" allegations.
People with vested interests lie, WISHY, and as far as I can tell the CIA, State Department, and the various neocon hangers-on all have a vested interest - maybe even an existential one - in keeping Trump from office or (failing that) driving him out or (failing that) making him ineffective.
FAKE NEWS, WISHY. It abounds, and it doesn't even have to be CLOSE to reality in order to be in the mainstream press. Just put allegations into mental quarantine until you see evidence either for or against.
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wishi
Just to remind you - you signed on to the fake news 'watersportsgate'.
I will keep reminding you, individually and plural, of that. You believed it because it was in the 'news' purveyed by 'reliable sources', and because you all suffer from a severe case of confirmation bias.
The fact that you all signed onto this demonstrates you're all EXTREMELY gullible, and make exactly zero effort to check what you read. You just react. And that makes you the perfect target of propaganda. And you all just demonstrated what perfect, willing, obedient little targets you are - not only signing on to propaganda, but endorsing it, spreading it, embellishing it, and defending it.
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kpo: Watersportsgate.
WISHIMAY: ... Trump makes Obama look like a saint.
How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
People with vested interests lie, WISHY, and as far as I can tell the CIA, State Department, and the various neocon hangers-on all have a vested interest - maybe even an existential one - in keeping Trump from office or (failing that) driving him out or (failing that) making him ineffective.
Just as in myths of old, there is usually some truth behind the stories.
The fact is that he is a shitty businessman, during a time when drugs and girls were more plentiful than clean water. The sniffing thing doesn't take Sherlock to figure out. He's done a ton of drugs, and with drug use comes many other things.... like mental disorders and bad decision making processes.
The balance of probability lies with him being a scumbag. The fact that you and Kiki are always supporting socialism means that you have a vested interest in supporting a Russia friendly regime. Therefore, you have convinced yourself to support his clearly reprehensible behavior.
Self-brainwashing is even worse than allowing yourself to be brainwashed.
With his tweets being a brag one minute and then a back peddle the next, even you should be able to see the instable nature of the man. Not even with mentioning that he openly told people to buy LL Bean, using the office of POTUS to manipulate the economy, the man is incapable of understanding political ethics, let alone MORAL ONES...
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wishi
Just to remind you - you signed on to the fake news 'watersportsgate'.
It hasn't been proven false. There is a respected MI6 agent behind it, and when it was written he would have had no reason to make it up. It's not like Russia will corroborate now, not when they have already bought and paid for "their man".
I absolutely believe he did it and worse. The man is a pig. I'm not worried, though. In time he will be his own undoing.
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wishi
You piled unsupported assumption (he sniffs due to past drug use), on top of stupid conclusion (therefore he has brain damage), on top of unsupported assumption and redbaiting (we're socialists), on top of stupid conclusion (therefor we want a Russia-friendly admin), on top of strawman (we support Trump's behavior), on top of logical fallacy post hoc ergo propter hoc (his tweets show the instable nature of the man).
MEANWHILE
Just to remind you - you signed on to the fake news 'watersportsgate'.
I will keep reminding you, individually and plural, of that. You believed it because it was in the 'news' purveyed by 'reliable sources', and because you all suffer from a severe case of confirmation bias.
The fact that you all signed onto this demonstrates you're all EXTREMELY gullible, and make exactly zero effort to check what you read. You just react. And that makes you the perfect target of propaganda. And you all just demonstrated what perfect, willing, obedient little targets you are - not only signing on to propaganda, but endorsing it, spreading it, embellishing it, and defending it.
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kpo: Watersportsgate.
WISHIMAY: ... Trump makes Obama look like a saint.
How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
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You keep saying "proven false".
I do not think that you understand what those words MEAN. IN THE SLIGHTEST.
And it's called LOGIC, you should try it sometime.
Oh, and here's another strike against him in my book.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4122304/Chris-Cox-Bikers-Trump
-says-5-000-members-attend-inauguration.html
So his supporters are misogynists, biker gangs, the KKK, and socialists....
REALLY?
You throw your lot in with that, you lack even the basic two brain cells to rub together.
All that is needed now is "All prisoners on death row support Trump" to realize how stupid this is...
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Are you schizophrenic? I said nothing about it being 'proven false'. YOU did. "It hasn't been proven false." And then you repeated your words as if you were quoting me. "You keep saying "proven false"." Were you responding to the voices in your head as if they were me?
However BECAUSE YOU ARE SO OBVIOUSLY GULLIBLE AND BELIEVE ALL SORTS OF CRAP - let me point out to you that AT THE TIME other publications such as the NYTimes and WaPo refused to post the story because NOT ONE SINGLE ITEM COULD BE VERIFIED, and because there were many either false or erroneous statements.
Such as
ø The story claimed Michael Cohen, Trump's legal counsel, traveled to Prague. Not only did Cohen show his passport which had no visits to Prague listed, it was a different person altogether. http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/11/govt-source-confirms-trumps-lawyer-w
as-not-in-prague/
ø The author was a hired anti-Trump gun. "... the author of the damning memos was originally hired by NeverTrump Republican donors to do opposition research on Trump and then hired by pro-Clinton donors to keep doing opposition on Trump."
ø The info continuously refers to Alpha Bank, a major player in the story. It's ALFA Bank.
BTW, that's information that was available in the news the very next day to anyone with a passing interest in the story.
For a more comprehensive list of bogus claims and obvious problems with that ahem! news, look here: http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-russia-intelligenc
e-dossier-hacking-541626
MEANWHILE
Just to remind you - you signed on to the fake news 'watersportsgate'.
I will keep reminding you, individually and plural, of that. You believed it because it was in the 'news' purveyed by 'reliable sources', and because you all suffer from a severe case of confirmation bias.
The fact that you all signed onto this demonstrates you're all EXTREMELY gullible, and make exactly zero effort to check what you read. You just react. And that makes you the perfect target of propaganda. And you all just demonstrated what perfect, willing, obedient little targets you are - not only signing on to propaganda, but endorsing it, spreading it, embellishing it, and defending it.
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kpo: Watersportsgate.
WISHIMAY: ... Trump makes Obama look like a saint.
How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
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Quote:Thank you 1KIKI.
You piled unsupported assumption (he sniffs due to past drug use), on top of stupid conclusion (therefore he has brain damage), on top of unsupported assumption and redbaiting (we're socialists), on top of stupid conclusion (therefor we want a Russia-friendly admin), on top of strawman (we support Trump's behavior), on top of logical fallacy post hoc ergo propter hoc (his tweets show the instable nature of the man).
WISH, you're being 100% illogical.
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
wishi
Are you schizophrenic? I said nothing about it being 'proven false'. YOU did. "It hasn't been proven false." And then you repeated your words as if you were quoting me. "You keep saying "proven false"." Were you responding to the voices in your head as if they were me?
However BECAUSE YOU ARE SO OBVIOUSLY GULLIBLE
I did not mean those literal words, shit for brains. It was just a saying. You keep implying it has been it has been proven false, when it has not even remotely been proven false.
In fact, I HAVE NOT SEEN A SHRED OF EVIDENCE that it is not true. Just partisan idiots shouting "FAKE NEWS."
And anything coming from the queen of "Capitalism must go and I am so special I can make that happen" is the very hallmark of insanity and gullibility. Since the first time you made the argument I just immediately discount pretty much everything you say. Blah, blah, blah.
I think it's interesting that you discount his drug use because you smoke weed and don't want to acknowledge that it probably has affected your brain and decision making skills. It's still a DRUG, genius. It still has side effects. Like EVERYTHING does.
PS Spelling errors DON'T MEAN ANYTHING OTHER THAN A SPELLING ERROR, because it was written BY HUMANS. Derp.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-emoluments-clause_us_5879485
2e4b09281d0eaf212
If you can read, you might wanna...
But we all KNOW deep down, Trump is just running for Trump.
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Nobody wants to read the Huffington Post.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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kpo posted Thursday, January 12, 2017 12:50 PM
YOU were the VERY NEXT POST Thursday, January 12, 2017 1:26 PM
But NOW you're claiming you WEREN'T posting about what kpo posted.
Please note - there was no other topic, no other incident, no other ANYTHING posted between you and kpo that you could possibly dodge behind.
Even more, by your own words, what you posted was directed specifically right at this particular incident: "This whole thing couldn't get any more surreal if you made it into an Twilight Zone episode. I keep waiting to find that one news article that explains why all this was allowed to happen like "We were trying to draw out a linchpin to stop WWIII" or some other piece of rational thought."
And NOW you're saying you WEREN'T talking about that, exactly? "I did not mean those literal words, shit for brains." Really? Because you were pointing to that exact story.
Oh, btw, the rest of your post made me laugh. I understand your life is hard and you like to imagine that nobody has it better than you, because sometimes you need it to get to the end of a day. But, honestly, you were so far off the mark it sailed past and make me laugh.
How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
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BOMBSHELL: Israeli Spies Reveal Trump’s Pee Party Is Just The Tip Of A Fast-Melting Iceberg
“The former MI6 agent is not the only source for the claim about Russian kompromat on the president-elect. Back in August, a retired spy told me he had been informed of its existence by “the head of an East European intelligence agency,” Wood says, explaining that he used an intermediary to check into things. A U.S. intelligence contact told him that there was “more than one” tape, and that video and audio of Trump’s exploits in Moscow and St. Petersberg do exist.
According to Israeli news publication Yedioth Ahronoth, their country’s spies have been warned by the United States against sharing information with the Trump administration until they can determine whether he has been compromised by Putin:
These fears, which began upon Trump’s election, grew stronger following a meeting held recently between Israeli and American intelligence officials (the date of the meeting is not mentioned to protect the sources of the report). During the meeting, according to the Israelis who participated in it, their American colleagues voiced despair over Trump’s election, as he often lashes out at the American intelligence community. The American officials also told the Israelis that the National Security Agency (NSA) had “highly credible information” that Russia’s intelligence agencies, the FSB and GRU, were responsible for hacking the Democratic Party (DNC) servers during the elections and leaking sensitive information to WikiLeaks, which hurt Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.
The American officials further added that they believed Russia President Vladimir Putin had “leverages of pressure” over Trump – but did not elaborate. They were apparently referring to what was published Wednesday about embarrassing information collected by the Russian intelligence in a bid to blackmail the president-elect.
The Americans implied that their Israeli colleagues should “be careful” as of January 20, Trump’s inauguration date, when transferring intelligence information to the White House and to the National Security Council (NSC), which is subject to the president. According to the Israelis who were present in the meeting, the Americans recommended that until it is made clear that Trump is not inappropriately connected to Russia and is not being extorted – Israel should avoid revealing sensitive sources to administration officials for fear the information would reach the Iranians.
http://addictinginfo.org/2017/01/15...ty-is-just-the-tip-of-a-fast-mel
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Funny G, very funny. And so to the point aye. 
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Quote:When mere innuendo becomes fact. How about them bankers, rf? Did you know they're Jews?
According to Israeli news publication Yedioth Ahronoth, their country’s spies have been warned by the United States against sharing information with the Trump administration ...
How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
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Originally posted by 1kiki:Quote:When mere innuendo becomes fact. How about them bankers, rf? Did you know they're Jews?
According to Israeli news publication Yedioth Ahronoth, their country’s spies have been warned by the United States against sharing information with the Trump administration ...
Cites, any cites. Or is your post pure conjecture?
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You mean a direct quote of a post of an article isn't enough of a reference?
Or are you just being a stupid dick?
How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
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Originally posted by G:
That's PERFECT. I printed it out and put it in the back window of my van!
And kiki, I'm done with you. You are officially too dense to even get the basics what I'm saying. I got bigger fish to fry.
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
You mean a direct quote of a post of an article isn't enough of a reference?
Or are you just being a stupid dick?
Cites please
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Originally posted by Wishimay:Quote:
Originally posted by G:
That's PERFECT. I printed it out and put it in the back window of my van!
And kiki, I'm done with you. You are officially too dense to even get the basics what I'm saying. I got bigger fish to fry.
1kiki and SIG are Russian trolls wish.
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
BOMBSHELL: Israeli Spies Reveal Trump’s Pee Party Is Just The Tip Of A Fast-Melting Iceberg
“The former MI6 agent is not the only source for the claim about Russian kompromat on the president-elect. Back in August, a retired spy told me he had been informed of its existence by “the head of an East European intelligence agency,” Wood says, explaining that he used an intermediary to check into things. A U.S. intelligence contact told him that there was “more than one” tape, and that video and audio of Trump’s exploits in Moscow and St. Petersberg do exist.
According to Israeli news publication Yedioth Ahronoth, their country’s spies have been warned by the United States against sharing information with the Trump administration until they can determine whether he has been compromised by Putin:
These fears, which began upon Trump’s election, grew stronger following a meeting held recently between Israeli and American intelligence officials (the date of the meeting is not mentioned to protect the sources of the report). During the meeting, according to the Israelis who participated in it, their American colleagues voiced despair over Trump’s election, as he often lashes out at the American intelligence community. The American officials also told the Israelis that the National Security Agency (NSA) had “highly credible information” that Russia’s intelligence agencies, the FSB and GRU, were responsible for hacking the Democratic Party (DNC) servers during the elections and leaking sensitive information to WikiLeaks, which hurt Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.
The American officials further added that they believed Russia President Vladimir Putin had “leverages of pressure” over Trump – but did not elaborate. They were apparently referring to what was published Wednesday about embarrassing information collected by the Russian intelligence in a bid to blackmail the president-elect.
The Americans implied that their Israeli colleagues should “be careful” as of January 20, Trump’s inauguration date, when transferring intelligence information to the White House and to the National Security Council (NSC), which is subject to the president. According to the Israelis who were present in the meeting, the Americans recommended that until it is made clear that Trump is not inappropriately connected to Russia and is not being extorted – Israel should avoid revealing sensitive sources to administration officials for fear the information would reach the Iranians.
http://addictinginfo.org/2017/01/15...ty-is-just-the-tip-of-a-fast-mel
ting-iceberg/
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
According to Israeli news publication Yedioth Ahronoth, their country’s spies have been warned by the United States against sharing information with the Trump administration ...
Now, THUGGER, I realize you're a stupid ass. But I posted this so everyone - except you of course - will be able to see my cite.
How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
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opinion
http://lacrossetribune.com/news/opinion/editorial/columnists/rich-lowr
y-trump-turns-dossier-leak-into-a-victory/article_043e1cff-cc04-509b-9828-64878f18b929.html
By publishing the uncorroborated dossier, BuzzFeed has associated the Russia issue with fantastical rumors and hearsay.
Its decision to post the document has to be considered another chapter in the ongoing saga of the media and Democrats losing their collective minds. If the election had gone the other way, it is hard to see BuzzFeed publishing a 35-page document containing unverified, lurid allegations about President-elect Hillary Clinton that it didn’t consider credible. This was an anti-Trump decision, pure and simple.
How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4125272/Trump-calls-UK-investi
gate-ex-MI6-spy.html
Donald Trump has called on Britain to investigate ex-MI6 spy Christopher Steele
How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4120956/British-spy-s-dirty-do
ssier-claims-Trump-cavorted-prostitutes-Russia-garbage-says-former-intelligence-chief.html
British spy's dirty dossier on claims Trump cavorted with prostitutes in Russia is 'garbage', says former top US intelligence chief
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4120956/British-spy-s-dirty-do
ssier-claims-Trump-cavorted-prostitutes-Russia-garbage-says-former-intelligence-chief.html#ixzz4VzR2HR00
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How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61303&p=1
http://addictinginfo.org/2017/01/15...ty-is-just-the-tip-of-a-fast-mel
ting-iceberg/
Now, THUGGER, I realize you're a stupid ass. But I posted this so everyone - except you of course - will be able to see my cite.
Followed your links. First one brings us to the beginning of this thread, so nothing there. Second goes nowhere at all, so nothing there.
Again, cites asshole.
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
1kiki and SIG are Russian trolls wish.
Agreed. But what are the odds of TWO of them on this board anyway? What kinda nut thinks they can take down capitalism from an old TV show discussion board?? The whole thing is just bizarre!
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Originally posted by Wishimay:Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
1kiki and SIG are Russian trolls wish.
Agreed. But what are the odds of TWO of them on this board anyway? What kinda nut thinks they can take down capitalism from an old TV show discussion board?? The whole thing is just bizarre!
They didn't make the cut wish. Look at how they are revealed here. Exposed as Russian trolls. look at how their lies are shown to be lies. You need to be smart, covert to be of use to the Russian propaganda machine. They are neither.
Being exposed as they are they are a determent to the cause.
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Quote:Says the troll.
They didn't make the cut wish. Look at how they are revealed here. Exposed as Russian trolls. look at how their lies are shown to be lies. You need to be smart, covert to be of use to the Russian propaganda machine. They are neither.
Being exposed as they are they are a determent to the cause.
Let's go back to the topic of this thread: the "dossier" which every intelligence agency refused to validate.
Do you think it's true?
Yes or no?
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They have to look into it KPO for reasons to numerous to list. I would suggest that it appears to be fake news. THUGR
Probably the only intelligent thing you've ever posted here. And since you happen to agree with me, then I guess that makes you a "Russian troll" too!
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Originally posted by Wishimay:
You keep implying it has been it has been proven false, when it has not even remotely been proven false.
In fact, I HAVE NOT SEEN A SHRED OF EVIDENCE that it is not true. Just partisan idiots shouting "FAKE NEWS."
See my signature: "Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."
Hence Sig and Kiki in this thread:
"FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS..."
Ever willing drones for Russian propaganda.
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Its decision to post the document has to be considered another chapter in the ongoing saga of the media and Democrats losing their collective minds. If the election had gone the other way, it is hard to see BuzzFeed publishing a 35-page document containing unverified, lurid allegations about President-elect Hillary Clinton
Question: If the allegations are so completely unfounded, why did US intelligence feel the need to brief President Obama and the president elect about their contents?
It seems to me that one of these 3 must be true:
A) US intelligence has reason to believe the allegations may be true
B) They want to damage Trump
C) They are incompetent/gullible idiots
And now it seems to me that WHICHEVER WAY you look at it there IS a story here (If someone can suggest an alternative logical possibility I'd like to hear it. Kiki? Sig? Thgrri?).
Lurid rumours about politicians etc. are often fake. Anyone who's spent any time on the internet (hopefully) knows that. But when intelligence agencies start to take them seriously - seriously enough to brief the president - then the matter is now in the public interest, imo.
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Quote:FBI, 5 other agencies probe possible covert Kremlin aid to Trump
Originally posted by kpo:
Lurid rumours about politicians etc. are often fake. Anyone who's spent any time on the internet (hopefully) knows that. But when intelligence agencies start to take them seriously - seriously enough to brief the president - then the matter is now in the public interest, imo.
www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/article127231799.html
The FBI and five other law enforcement and intelligence agencies have collaborated for months in an investigation into Russian attempts to influence the November election....The agencies involved in the inquiry are the FBI, the CIA, the National Security Agency, the Justice Department, the Treasury Department’s Financial Crimes Enforcement Network and representatives of the director of national intelligence, the sources said.
....One of the allegations involves whether a system for routinely paying thousands of Russian-American pensioners may have been used to pay some email hackers in the United States or to supply money to intermediaries who would then pay the hackers, the two sources said....A key mission of the six-agency group has been to examine who financed the email hacks of the Democratic National Committee and Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta.
....The working group is scrutinizing the activities of a few Americans who were affiliated with Trump’s campaign or his business empire and of multiple individuals from Russia and other former Soviet nations who had similar connections, the sources said.
....The BBC reported that the FBI had obtained a warrant on Oct. 15 from the highly secretive Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court allowing investigators access to bank records and other documents about potential payments and money transfers related to Russia. One of McClatchy’s sources confirmed the report.
That's an awful lot of agencies investigating an awful lot of allegations against an awful lot of people. And as the article says, you can't get a warrant unless you can demonstrate at least some kind of plausible probable cause. That means these folks are working off a lot more than just the famous dossier produced by the ex-MI6 spy.
At this point, I flatly don't know what I believe anymore. This is all crazy stuff, but a whole bunch of investigators don't seem to be treating it as crazy. Either way, though, the guy at the center of all this is going to become president of the United States in two days.
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....The BBC reported that the FBI had obtained a warrant on Oct. 15 from the highly secretive Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court...
Must not be too highly secretive if you and I and the BBC know about it, huh?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Secretive enough that we didn't hear about it until after the election.
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Vladimir Putin's engagement in American politics on Trump's behalf continued on Tuesday when he called reports that Trump had been compromised by Russian intelligence "total nonsense" designed to "undermine the legitimacy" of Trump's presidency. Putin accused those spreading the information of being "worse than prostitutes," adding: "They have no moral boundaries."
You know we are entering a strange time when Putin, many of whose enemies wind up dead, is lecturing Americans about "moral boundaries." Then again, Putin must have been grateful when Trump told The Times of London this week that he still considers NATO "obsolete." Wrecking both NATO and the European Union, which Trump also demeaned, are central Putin objectives.
We still do not know exactly what ties Trump and his enterprises have to various Russian interests because he won't disclose basic financial information, including his tax returns, as his predecessors did.
In the meantime, Trump's refusal to truly separate himself from his businesses means that ethical conflicts could well start on Day One of his presidency. It is not paranoid to wonder whether foreign leaders will have ways of influencing Trump that we will know nothing about.
It is hardly reassuring that the Republicans who lead Congress are far more eager to attack those who want more transparency from Trump than to demand it of the man who is about to control our nation's fate.
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Quote:Because America- which is a war-mongering oligarchy which has killed at least a half-million people in its foreign adventures over the past 16 years - lectures everyone else? Your moral relativism is sickening. So is your big giant hypocritical double standard. So are you.
Originally posted by second:
Vladimir Putin's engagement in American politics on Trump's behalf continued on Tuesday when he called reports that Trump had been compromised by Russian intelligence "total nonsense" designed to "undermine the legitimacy" of Trump's presidency. Putin accused those spreading the information of being "worse than prostitutes," adding: "They have no moral boundaries."
You know we are entering a strange time when Putin, many of whose enemies wind up dead, is lecturing Americans about "moral boundaries."
Quote:NATO is obsolete, and the Eurocrats reigning from on high in Brussels ... and Frau Merkel with her shrill demands from Germany ... are doing a much better job making the EU a hated name than Trump could ever do.
Then again, Putin must have been grateful when Trump told The Times of London this week that he still considers NATO "obsolete." Wrecking both NATO and the European Union, which Trump also demeaned, are central Putin objectives.
Quote:We still do not know what ties SECOND has with the DNC, or when she stopped beating her husband, because she refuses to say. Or what ties Hillary and her Foundation had with Saudi Arabia, because she bleach-bitted all of her "personal" State Department emails. SECOND, how you (endlessly!) carp and whine about Trump's flaws while ignoring everyone else's is a wonder to behold. It really is. It's kind of sickening too, but fascinating in a train-wreck kind of way.
We still do not know exactly what ties Trump and his enterprises have to various Russian interests because he won't disclose basic financial information, including his tax returns, as his predecessors did.
Quote:Because Hillary and Obama and Bush had no other nations influence on them, being paragons of rectitude. Another example of SECOND's double standards.
In the meantime, Trump's refusal to truly separate himself from his businesses means that ethical conflicts could well start on Day One of his presidency. It is not paranoid to wonder whether foreign leaders will have ways of influencing Trump that we will know nothing about.
Quote:Whatever.
It is hardly reassuring that the Republicans who lead Congress are far more eager to attack those who want more transparency from Trump than to demand it of the man who is about to control our nation's fate.
Yanno what? SECOND, your endless carping about Trump is boring and paranoid. You STILL have not been able to define America's interests, and since your "goals" are so poorly thought out, that makes you a tool of anyone of grabs your attention. And boy, are you a tool!
Waiting for BUT RUSSIA! in three ... two ... one ...
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If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
"If you aren't aware, Texans don't have much concern for the well-being of Yankees or Californians, even Yankee factory workers in Indiana "- SECOND
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Secretive enough that we didn't hear about it until after the election.
Obama still ran the show then. Maybe if he wasn't so busy campaigning for Hillary and the DOJ wasn't working so hard to cover for her illegal activities somebody would have found it earlier?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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It's fake news. Just like WMD. Anyone who believes it is being played.
Worse, the people carrying this forward will irreparably ruin their credibility, like the boy who cried wolf. And IF by some chance they happen to stumble on something important, no one will listen.
How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
Fake news people are often well protected. Look at James O'Keefe and Jeff Gannon.
They've done horrible things, but nothing happened to them.
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Hillary Clinton refuses to answer about RussiaGate
https://www.weeklyblitz.net/world/hillary-clinton-refuses-to-answer-ab
out-russiagate/
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Was the Steele Dossier Used to Obtain a FISA Warrant Against Trump’s Campaign?
https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/12/steele-dossier-source-fisa-warr
ant-against-trump-campaign/
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Quote:of course it was.
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Was the Steele Dossier Used to Obtain a FISA Warrant Against Trump’s Campaign?
https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/12/steele-dossier-source-fisa-warr
ant-against-trump-campaign/
Will GOP-dominated House investigate this?
Prolly not.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
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Who is Stormy Daniels? What to know about the woman at the center of Trump's indictment.
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/videos/news/2023/03/31/who-stormy-da
niels-what-know-adult-film-star/11577055002/
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And for the record:
It's not surprising that KPO, G, WISH, SECOND, and SHINY were bamboozled by a piece of fake news. Seriously, doods, isn't there anything more real to post about?
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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
"If you aren't aware, Texans don't have much concern for the well-being of Yankees or Californians, even Yankee factory workers in Indiana "- SECOND
Seriously, these people should reflect on their stupidity. Except, being stupid, they can't.
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TBH I'm tired of reading more Trump Derangement Syndrome.
It's just a distraction from TPTB taking our country apart from under our very feet.
You go on and amuse yourselves with bullshit.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Was the Steele Dossier Used to Obtain a FISA Warrant Against Trump’s Campaign?
https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/12/steele-dossier-source-fisa-warr
ant-against-trump-campaign/] of course it was.
Will GOP-dominated House investigate this?
Prolly not.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
Same shit again and again. Hey comrade did you hear? Trump got arressted.
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A Guide to Trump Allies Who've Pleaded Guilty or Been Convicted of Crimes
https://www.newsweek.com/guide-trump-allies-whove-pleaded-guilty-been-
convicted-crimes-1735298
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Trump will be fine. 
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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.
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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Was the Steele Dossier Used to Obtain a FISA Warrant Against Trump’s Campaign?
https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/12/steele-dossier-source-fisa-warr
ant-against-trump-campaign/
SIGNY: of course it was.
Will GOP-dominated House investigate this?
Prolly not.
THUGR: Same shit again and again. Hey comrade did you hear? Trump got arressted.
Meanwhile, in the REAL WORLD (and not THUGR's fantasyland)
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I know I'm missing a number of items, but ..
Saudi Arabia accepts yuan for oil
Saudi Arabia makes peace with Syria.
Saudi Arabia becomes a candidate member of the SCO, seeks to join BRICs.
OPEC+ announces surprise production cut... and none of the producers and neither of the largest consumers (China, India) bothered to let Biden* in on the news.
China and Brazil sign non-dollar trade agreement.
Japan bows out of the anti-Russia oil price cap
Malaysia trades using Indian rupee.
This video explains how Biden's* foreign policy... which tramples friends and allies alike in its drive to destroy Russia... is bringing the petrodollar to it's knees.
TBH I'm tired of reading more Trump Derangement Syndrome.
It's just a distraction by TPTB from them taking our country apart from under our very feet.
You go on and amuse yourselves with bullshit.
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Pissgate and Fusion-GPS
Glenn Richard Simpson an American former journalist who worked for The Wall Street Journal
Fusion GPS is a commercial research and strategic intelligence firm based in Washington, D.C. The company conducts open-source investigations and provides research and strategic advice for businesses, law firms and investors, as well as for political inquiries, such as opposition research
Trump-era special counsel defends his report on Russia probe against Democrats' jabs
https://www.kvnf.org/npr-news/2023-06-21/trump-era-special-counsel-def
ends-his-report-on-russia-probe-against-democrats-jabs
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Re-reading THUGR's vacuous gullibility and SECONDS'S sociopathic trolling ... ah, sweet memories.
THUGR, alas, will always be a dupe, and SECOND will always be a sociopath.
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Quote:John Durham Admits Russia Helped Trump
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Re-reading THUGR's vacuous gullibility and SECONDS'S sociopathic trolling ... ah, sweet memories.
THUGR, alas, will always be a dupe, and SECOND will always be a sociopath.
(Durham is the man tasked by Trump with concluding whether the FBI’s investigation of Russia’s connections to the 2016 Trump campaign was appropriate.)
“I don’t think there’s any question that Russians intruded into — hacked into the systems, they released information,” Durham said.
“And that was helpful to the Trump campaign, right?” Schiff asked.
After trying to deflect the question, Durham agreed the Russians had been helpful to the Trump campaign.
“And Trump made use of that, as I said, didn’t he, by touting those stolen documents on the campaign trail over a hundred times,” Schiff said.
Durham said he didn’t “really read the newspapers, or listen to the news. So I don’t know that.”
“Were you totally oblivious to Donald Trump’s use of the stolen emails on the campaign trail more than a hundred times?” Schiff asked. “Did that escape your attention?”
Durham responded that he wasn’t aware of that.
At another point in the hearing, Schiff compared Durham and Mueller’s investigations.
“The only distinguishing thing between [Mueller's] investigation and yours is he refused to bring charges where he couldn't prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt and you did,” Schiff said.
Durham brought three charges forward, went to trial with two, and won convictions on zero — a point Democrats repeatedly brought up during the hearing.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/adam-schiff-gets-john-durham-20424
7109.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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This happened too...
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Quote:RFK Jr.’s conspiracy theories aren’t limited to medical issues. He has conspiracy theories about his own family. Specifically, he counts himself among those who think the CIA was involved in the assassination of his uncle, President John F. Kennedy, in 1963.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
This happened too...
“There is overwhelming evidence that the CIA was involved in his murder,” Kennedy said in an interview in May. “I think it’s beyond a reasonable doubt at this point … When my uncle was president, he was surrounded by a military-industrial complex and intelligence apparatus that was constantly trying to get him to go to war in Laos, Vietnam, etc. He refused. He said that the job of the American presidency is to keep the nation out of war.”
In that same interview, he said it was possible that the CIA had been involved in the killing of his father, as well. It’s not the first time the younger Kennedy has indicated he believed something was off about the official story of Robert F. Kennedy’s assassination by Sirhan Sirhan. For some time, RFK Jr. has thrown his weight behind the “second shooter” theory, insisting that Sirhan had been framed for his father’s death. The assassination has for years been a matter for speculation, based on competing testimonies from various experts over the number of bullets fired and the angle at which the elder Kennedy was shot.
Asked in his recent Joe Rogan interview how he would feel about his own safety were he elected president, RFK Jr. admitted he thought the CIA might come after him, as well. “Well, I’ve got to be careful,” he said. “You know, I’m aware of that danger, and I don’t live in fear of it at all. But I’m not stupid about it, and I take precautions.”
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/06/rfk-jr-conspiracy-theories
-vaccines-covid-fauci-5g.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:John Durham Admits Russia Helped Trump ...blah blah blah ... stolen documents ... blah blah blah
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Re-reading THUGR's vacuous gullibility and SECONDS'S sociopathic trolling ... ah, sweet memories.
THUGR, alas, will always be a dupe, and SECOND will always be a sociopath.
'Stolen documents'?
You mean the Podesta and DNC emails?
Son, everybody who's inestiagted that - from the NSA to Crowdstrike (hired by the DNC) to former intel officials - says there is NO EVIDENCE that Russia 'exfiltrated' those mails.
How many packets out of the hundreds of thousands of packets that would have been required to xmit that data across the internet ... on transational cables, even... did the NSA intercept?
None. That's why their 'confidence' in the conclusion was only 'moderate': bc they found NO EVIDENCE of exfiltration, it was all inference.
Crowdstrike did not find any data on the system logs indicating repeated access from suspect sources.
Furthermore, file timestamps indicated that the access speed was far higher than achievable across the inet, but since the timestamps were always in even numbers that was CLEARLY a USB format. SOMEONE with physical access to one of the computers on the DNC server and a valid password brought in a USB stick and downloaded them to their device, and physically passsed it on to Assange, who, even as we post, is STILL in jai.
Meanwhile, Seth Rich, a DNC staffer, was murdered in what police chalk up a sa botched robbery, even tho all of his valuables were still on him.
You keep regurgitating long-disproved lies in the hopes that someone will be convinced.
Aside from THUGR, who is irredeemably brainwashed, nobody here believes a word you post.
Troll.
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Why did Kennedy want to blast them into a thousand parts and scatter the pieces to the winds?
I mean they knew which PirateNews style conspiracy were true all these years and not true, they knew about Epstein's pedo shit for years and did jack shit.
C I mafia Gays
Guatemalan coup d'état
Irangate drug and gun running from Latin America to America's sworn enemy in Iran
Operation Mocking Bird media weaponized propaganda against people of the USA just as KGB did
Collaboration with Opium guys in Asscrackistan, getting drugs across the US border, working alongside with drug traffickers all around the world while some CI spook gays are literally out of their minds on drugs.
From Langley, Virginia, the CI gay homosexual is a widespread organization getting into bed with jihads, selling its anus to islamist terrorist and running a drug smullger operation spanning the globe.
Pedo shit with 'The Finders'
MK-Ultra drugs, brain washing, prostitutes, mind control
CIA using old Airforce, Militray and Marines equipment and Chilean armed forces commanded by General Augusto Pinochet bombed the presidential palace in Chile on 11 th of September 1973, overthrowing democratically elected president Salvador Allende, kidnapped, tortured and killed many trade-unionists. Of course media will be there to spin and Faggot Mafia Spooks are smarter than your KGB and Never refer to a CI homosexual Gay employee as an "agent." They are a YMCA spooky crackhead "officer."
Conducting psychological torture on Americans, bizarre medical experiments, rape and physical abuse, driving many of them permanently insane.
Taking Stealing Billions of Tax payer US Dollars Running their own Covert Program and Failing to eliminate Fidel Castro, hundreds of times and failing to make the hair on his beard fall out!
Bezos Lawdy of da Rangz and the Washington Compost, CIA awarded a $600 million contract to Amazon Web Services for a computing cloud system which would allow all 17 agencies of the US intelligence community to coordinate and share information or
Confusion, Disinformation, telling a lie for example Saddam did 911 – False information spread deliberately to deceive
taking over media allows them to boost a politician or to promote their preferred candidate
Spying on the Senate Intelligence Committee, though typical of the homosexual spook agency, denying it first.
Giving guns, terroristic tactics, bombs and missiles to bin Laden to fight the Soviets ... but then bin Laden starts using those same bombs and terroristic tactics to bomb Americans.
They spent Billions of Tax Payer Dollars in Asscrackistan and energy and resources for years of war in Afghanistan ...all for what? Almost Nothing!
a war of distraction in Iraq...break a country that America now bought.
Probably helped in the rise of ISIS with their Anti-Assad Syria BS
bin Laden was hanging out next to a Pakistani base all that time
did they magically find bin Laden as they Hollyweird story goes or did they know more than they admit and for a time content to leave their former Anti-Soviet Mujahidean warrior bin Laden under house arrest?
...maybe they didn't drop the ball on bin Laden maybe they genuinely did their best to find him and kill him after 911 but
Who knows what is the truth when it comes to the spooks, it would seem that John Bacha Bazi Brennan even has one of those disgusting looking prayer rugs in his office and rather than praise the US Founding Fathers he would happily put his anus in the air, banging his skull into the floor and do some islamo ritual to 'Face Mecca' and for John Brennan to behave just like inbred islamic retards do in the Middle East.
When you see the stuff 'the Agency' itself has admitted to doing
Their actions so abundantly often undermine democracy and human rights which the US government publicly professes to promote
Brennan started his own consulting firm, begins election interference and contributing money to Obama and became an advisor
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Quote:John Durham Admits Russia Helped Trump ...blah blah blah ... stolen documents ... blah blah blah
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Re-reading THUGR's vacuous gullibility and SECONDS'S sociopathic trolling ... ah, sweet memories.
THUGR, alas, will always be a dupe, and SECOND will always be a sociopath.
'Stolen documents'?
You mean the Podesta and DNC emails?
Son, everybody who's inestiagted that - from the NSA to Crowdstrike (hired by the DNC) to former intel officials - says there is NO EVIDENCE that Russia 'exfiltrated' those mails.
How many packets out of the hundreds of thousands of packets that would have been required to xmit that data across the internet ... on transational cables, even... did the NSA intercept?
None. That's why their 'confidence' in the conclusion was only 'moderate': bc they found NO EVIDENCE of exfiltration, it was all inference.
Crowdstrike did not find any data on the system logs indicating repeated access from suspect sources.
Furthermore, file timestamps indicated that the access speed was far higher than achievable across the inet, but since the timestamps were always in even numbers that was CLEARLY a USB format. SOMEONE with physical access to one of the computers on the DNC server and a valid password brought in a USB stick and downloaded them to their device, and physically passsed it on to Assange, who, even as we post, is STILL in jai.
Meanwhile, Seth Rich, a DNC staffer, was murdered in what police chalk up a sa botched robbery, even tho all of his valuables were still on him.
You keep regurgitating long-disproved lies in the hopes that someone will be convinced.
Aside from THUGR, who is irredeemably brainwashed, nobody here believes a word you post.
Troll.
Every sentence Signym wrote is a lie. Not one particle of truth. Signym didn't even spell the words correctly.
There are trustworthy people writing about Russian Election Interference. Signym is not one of them:
https://www.google.com/search?q=Russian+election+interference
P.S. Signym, your Seth Rich conspiracy is more of your lies. Your habitual way of handling the truth is to claim the truth is a lie, while the lie is the "honest" truth. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Seth_Rich#Debunking
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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The liar who is so compulsive about lying he contradicts himself from one post to the next calls me a liar?
Not gonna waste my time re-postung links I've posted a half-dozen times or more. Look it up for yourself
Troll.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Re-reading THUGR's vacuous gullibility and SECONDS'S sociopathic trolling ... ah, sweet memories.
THUGR, alas, will always be a dupe, and SECOND will always be a sociopath.
Too funny, too sad. All always wrong comrade signym does, is reaffirm she is a malicious idiot.
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Quote:First thing, Signym, learn how to spell. Second thing, you didn't post the links the first time so this would not be half-dozen times or more.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The liar who is so compulsive about lying he contradicts himself from one post to the next calls me a liar?
Not gonna waste my time re-postung links I've posted a half-dozen times or more. Look it up for yourself
Troll.
The third thing, Signym, is your story about the Seth Rich conspiracy was concocted by right-wing nutjobs working for/with Trump, the biggest nutjob in America and a compulsive liar and a person you have supported for many years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Seth_Rich#Propagation_by_right
-wing_media_and_venues
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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liar.
troll.
stupid
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When the Jimmy Savile Mi6 and M i 5 protection squad and accusers were the real rapists and pedophiles?
C I mafia Gays...what do they tie into, older Networks, Rosicrucian Masonry, elite Royalty of Europe, the other Mossad, KGB, British pervert spying peeping tom types...how long do those double agents and spies done that job, does it go back to Royls, maybe the Vatican, maybe older than Rome or the Middle East or a new version of a pervert old group or old spy circles perhaps
Lots of Symbols and Numerology, 'Star of Ishtar'
hypnotism and drugging?
http://en.mind-control.wikia.com/wiki/Project_BLUEBIRD
In a statement, a CI gAy spokesperson said: ‘Joining Instagram is another way we’re sharing CI gAy ’s stories and recruiting talented Americans to serve here. Through the account, we’ll give a peek into Agency life, but we can’t promise any selfies from secret locations.’
https://metro.co.uk/2019/04/26/cia-launched-instagram-account-first-po
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There’s a statue of an owl representing Athena, god of wisdom. Conspiracy-minded folk may note that an effigy of an owl is burned during bizarre rituals held at Bohemia Grove, a shadowy elite resort known to be frequented by presidents and corporate powerbrokers.
But why would Kennedy, RFK Jr think "Smoke and Mirrors" Clowns, the C I sex offenders, why would he think the Spooks with "Pit of Secrets" that these clowns had something to do with the Death of his Family? Changing outcome of US elections, running internal spying propaganda, drugging people, Domestic wiretapping, Security failures, a mafia with old US Military equipment over throwing governments. Drug running, funding the Afghan mujahideen Operation Cyclone which later became Al-Qaeda and the Taliban played a role in causing the 911 attacks, literal rapists and creeps a disgusting CI gAy Spook Who Admitted Raping Unconscious Women, Brian Jeffrey Raymond was described as the “experienced sexual predator” type, local people reported seeing a “naked, hysterical woman desperately screaming for help” on the terrace of an apartment leased by the U.S. government.
They even admit Aleksandras Lileikis, a Nazi unit commander who oversaw the murder of 60,000 Jews in Lithuania, later worked for Pagan looking Pyramid, Owl symbol and Eagle Symbol, with that All-Seeing Masonic Eye that other group the C Eye gAys
Quote:
The woman was nude on the balcony of the upscale Polanco neighborhood. She was found to have injuries indicating she was raped and injured, including bruises and cuts on her body
https://web.archive.org/web/20201231011227/https://heavy.com/news/bria
n-jeffrey-raymond/
How far back do they go...the OSS, does it have even older roots. Did it link to the Mi5 or M i 6 Royal pedo protection squad?
The now defunct database Wikiscanner revealed that computers from the CI gAy had been used to edit articles on the English Wikipedia, including the Iraq War article.
Resignation of pro-jihadist officials and pro-islamist agents and Resignation of officials and agents who accuse the US Admin of anti-Muslim prejudice from within...how badly is the C I gay infected with islamist type, how many of the C I homosexuals know and supported the Bachi Bazi culture and how many C I gay had links to the jihadi type?
Research by Dr. Alfred W. McCoy, Gary Webb, and others has pointed to CI gAy involvement in narcotics trafficking across the globe. In a Human Rights report it was said little Bush junior 'told us that the last 14 CI gAy prisoners were sent to Guantanamo', but there are many other prisoners
'disappeared' by the CI
GAY
pri
de-month
parade ...hang around with Bacha Bazi type and terrorist type, pick up people off streets " whose fate is still unknown,"
vanished gone?
said Joanne Mariner, terrorism and counterterrorism director at Human Rights Watch.
"The question is: what happened to these people and where are t
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As the walls close in, the Trump money machine cashes in
Trump's big mouth causes confusion and chaos — but it also makes the cash flow
To that point, Trump now claims to have raised at least seven million dollars since being indicted and arrested in Miami for his alleged crimes related to the Espionage Act. This is in addition to the millions of dollars that Trump's followers gave him after his pleas for support following his arrest and indictment in New York for alleged crimes connected to hush money payments and other financial crimes at the end of March.
Public opinion polls consistently show that the American people as a whole want some closure. They want all of the Trump noise to go away. Such an outcome is unlikely any time soon, however, because of the vast amounts of money to be made from the chaos, confusion, danger, and peril that surrounds Trump.
Trump continues to publicly incriminate himself by basically admitting his guilt during TV appearances and interviews, at rallies, and via his Truth Social disinformation platform while simultaneously proclaiming his innocence.
I envision three possible outcomes in the next months and through to the 2024 election:
One: Trump becomes the Republican Party's 2024 presidential nominee while he is also on trial for violating the Espionage Act, and faces potential trials for cases in Georgia and DC for the crimes of Jan. 6, in New York for illegal payments to his mistress Stormy Daniels, and perhaps elsewhere for fraud and financial crimes. America is washed over by a cacophony of sound, fury, and chaos; it is deafening and maddening. Trump somehow wins the Election, pardons himself or otherwise is allowed to be free, and then embarks upon a revenge-fueled assault on the American people and their democracy.
Two: Donald Trump is defeated in the 2024 election by President Biden and the Democrats. Trump is also found guilty and sentenced to prison. He is disappeared from public life – but this does not remove all his power or influence as the leader of the MAGA fascist movement and larger white right. Donald Trump is more than a man or leader; he is a type of symbol and signifier and an object of sacred worship and salvation — a MAGA Jesus — for his followers.
Because of that fact, the idea of Donald Trump and what he represents will endure and his power will be passed on to a successor.
Trumpism will then become a more powerful 21st-century version of the white supremacist neo-confederate Lost Cause, a threat and constant noise in the background of American life that crashes and electrocutes like thunder and lightning when the right (wrong) circumstances come together to harness it.
Here is the third scenario. Donald Trump is truly vanquished and he and the MAGA movement and their followers are treated by "respectable society" as something verboten and to otherwise be shunned. As has often happened in other countries when they have suffered through great national traumas, a type of organized forgetting takes hold. Of course, this does not solve the deeper problems that gave rise to such crises.
The American mainstream news media — as they have already been doing throughout the Age of Trump and beyond — will create false distinctions between "normal" and "responsible" Republicans and the "far right" and "extreme" elements of the party and "conservative" movement as though that separation can be neatly made or even substantively exists.
In this scenario, Trumpism and neofascism are absorbed by the Republican Party and "conservative" movement as a new type of status quo and ideological baseline. America's political terrain shifts to accommodate it in unhealthy ways; America's slide into neofascism and competitive authoritarianism continues. Here, Donald Trump and Trumpism are like a type of loud silence, something unnatural and uncomfortable in American life and society, and the public is afraid to say their names aloud lest they manifest like the bogey
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SECOND is still unloading horsecrap into a thread that's a pile of horsecrap.
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Quote:U.S. Treasury imposes sanctions on Russians it says interfered in American elections
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND is still unloading horsecrap into a thread that's a pile of horsecrap.
The U.S. imposed sanctions on two Russian intelligence officers that worked to try and influence the outcome of a local election, the Treasury Department said. It did not specify which election in the U.S. the individuals in question — Yegor Sergeyevich Popov, 31, and Aleksei Borisovich Sukhodolov, 49 — allegedly interfered in.
Popov and Sukhodolov were described as being part of Russia’s Federal Security Service, the FSB, and “played a significant role in the Kremlin’s attempts to conduct global malign influence operations, including efforts to influence a local election in the United States,” the Treasury Department said in a statement.
“The United States will not tolerate threats to our democracy, and today’s action builds on the whole of government approach to protect our system of representative government,” Treasury official Brian Nelson said.
The sanctions freeze any assets that the sanctioned individuals hold in the U.S., and prohibit American entities and people from transacting with those individuals.
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/06/23/russia-ukraine-live-updates.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Scott Ritter is a former United Nations weapons inspector, former United States Marine Corps intelligence officer, and veteran of the Persian Gulf War.
Ritter was the subject of police sting operations for sex crimes in 2001 and 2009, and was convicted of sex crimes involving a minor in 2011.
Why do disgraced Americans like Scott Ritter spout pro-Putin propaganda in Russia?
https://uk.style.yahoo.com/why-disgraced-americans-scott-ritter-050056
973.html
Russian propaganda outlets have loved quoting Americans they believe are arguing in Moscow's favour ever since the 2014 invasion of Ukraine, and even more so since the full-scale attack launched in February last year.
While the concept of Western intellectuals kowtowing to Soviet leadership – and downplaying their crimes – was relatively common during the Cold War, it has gained new momentum since Russian President Vladimir Putin made clear his plans to either break up or occupy the entirety of Ukraine.
Scott Ritter, a former UN weapons inspector in the 1990s, and a Marine Corps analyst during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan a decade prior, is among the cohort of Americans courted by Russian propaganda sources.
Recently, he launched a tour of his new book, “Disarmament in the time of the Perestroika,” in Russia, and presented it in cities such as Kazan, Irkutsk and Yekaterinburg. The book, he claims, aims to warn the US public about not seeking out escalations with Russia which could lead to a nuclear attack and insists the Western public has forgotten how difficult it was to achieve these agreements in the first place.
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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Scott Ritter is a former United Nations weapons inspector, former United States Marine Corps intelligence officer, and veteran of the Persian Gulf War.
Ritter was the subject of police sting operations for sex crimes in 2001 and 2009, and was convicted of sex crimes involving a minor in 2011.
Why do disgraced Americans like Scott Ritter spout pro-Putin propaganda in Russia?
https://uk.style.yahoo.com/why-disgraced-americans-scott-ritter-050056
973.html
Russian propaganda outlets have loved quoting Americans they believe are arguing in Moscow's favour ever since the 2014 invasion of Ukraine, and even more so since the full-scale attack launched in February last year.
While the concept of Western intellectuals kowtowing to Soviet leadership – and downplaying their crimes – was relatively common during the Cold War, it has gained new momentum since Russian President Vladimir Putin made clear his plans to either break up or occupy the entirety of Ukraine.
Scott Ritter, a former UN weapons inspector in the 1990s, and a Marine Corps analyst during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan a decade prior, is among the cohort of Americans courted by Russian propaganda sources.
Recently, he launched a tour of his new book, “Disarmament in the time of the Perestroika,” in Russia, and presented it in cities such as Kazan, Irkutsk and Yekaterinburg. The book, he claims, aims to warn the US public about not seeking out escalations with Russia which could lead to a nuclear attack and insists the Western public has forgotten how difficult it was to achieve these agreements in the first place.
That's not kowtowing to Russian leadership or spouting pro-Putin propaganda.
That's just common fucking sense.
To believe otherwise is to take for granted things that people have done before you during peacetime.
Putin wouldn't be occupying Ukraine if NATO wasn't the aggressor.
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How you do anything is how you do everything.
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the new Democrats and NeoCon blame Trump! and look at Russia tv, they are reporting on it all
blame commie red Ruskie!
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Quote:I get the feeling that neither you nor the Russians keep track of how much wickedness Trump smeared all over his body, but there is a guide to convicted felon Trump's legal troubles:
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
the new Democrats and NeoCon blame Trump! and look at Russia tv, they are reporting on it all
blame commie red Ruskie!
The Cases Against Trump: A Guide For Voters
By David A. Graham | May 31, 2024, 12:49 PM ET
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/05/donald-trump-legal-c
ases-charges/675531/
In addition to the conviction in Manhattan, Trump faces 57 more felony counts across one state court and two different federal districts, any of which could potentially produce a prison sentence. He also lost a civil suit in New York that could hobble his business empire, as well as a pair of large defamation judgments. Meanwhile, he is the presumptive Republican nominee for president. His legal fate is being litigated at the same time that his political future is before voters.
Here’s a summary of the major legal cases against Trump, including key dates, an assessment of the gravity of the charges, and expectations about how they could turn out. This guide will be updated regularly as the cases proceed.
New York State: Fraud
In the fall of 2022, New York Attorney General Letitia James filed a civil suit against Trump, his adult sons, and his former aide Allen Weisselberg, alleging a years-long scheme in which Trump fraudulently reported the value of properties in order to either lower his tax bill or improve the terms of his loans, all with an eye toward inflating his net worth.
When?
Justice Arthur Engoron ruled on February 16 that Trump must pay $355 million plus interest, the calculated size of his ill-gotten gains from fraud. The judge had previously ruled against Trump and his co-defendants in late September 2023, concluding that many of the defendants’ claims were “clearly” fraudulent—so clearly that he didn’t need a trial to hear them.
How grave was the allegation?
Fraud is fraud, and in this case, the sum of the fraud stretched into the hundreds of millions—but compared with some of the other legal matters in which Trump is embroiled, this is a little pedestrian. The case was also civil rather than criminal. But although the stakes are lower for the nation, they remain high for Trump: The size of the penalty appears to be larger than Trump can easily pay, and he also faces a three-year ban on operating his company.
What happens now?
Trump has appealed the case. On March 25, the day he was supposed to post bond, an appeals court reduced the amount he must post from more than $464 million to $175 million. He must appeal by this summer.
Manhattan: Defamation and Sexual Assault
Although these other cases are all brought by government entities, Trump also faced a pair of defamation suits from the writer E. Jean Carroll, who said that Trump sexually assaulted her in a department-store dressing room in the 1990s. When he denied it, she sued him for defamation and later added a battery claim.
When?
In May 2023, a jury concluded that Trump had sexually assaulted and defamed Carroll, and awarded her $5 million. A second defamation case produced an $83.3 million judgment in January 2024.
How grave was the allegation?
Although these cases didn’t directly connect to the same fundamental issues of rule of law and democratic governance that some of the criminal cases do, they were a serious matter, and a federal judge’s blunt statement that Trump raped Carroll has gone underappreciated.
What happens now?
Trump has appealed both cases, and he posted bond for the $83.3 million in March. During the second trial, he also continued to insult Carroll, which may have courted additional defamation suits.
Manhattan: Hush Money
In March 2023, Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg became the first prosecutor to bring felony charges against Trump, alleging that the former president falsified
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Liz Cheney trolled as House GOP J6 panel seeks her communications with ex-Trump aide Cassidy Hutchinson
https://news.meaww.com/liz-cheney-trolled-as-house-gop-j-6-panel-seeks
-her-communications-with-ex-trump-aide-cassidy-hutchinson
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Fake CrowdStrike Fixes Are Spreading Malware, Data Wipers
https://www.techworm.net/2024/07/fake-crowdstrike-fix-spreading-malwar
e-data-wipers.html
CrowdStrike shares set to extend losses as outage effects linger
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/crowdstrike-shares-set-extend-losses-11
5113659.html
and Chuck Todd?
CrowdStrike chief admits no proof that Russia exfiltrated DNC emails
https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/crowdstrike-chief-admits-
no-proof-that-russia-exfiltrated-dnc-emails.html
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Quote:
SECOND:
U.S. Treasury imposes sanctions on Russians it says interfered in American elections
SECOND is still unloading horsecrap into a thread that's a pile of horsecrap.
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
Why SECOND'S posts are brainless: "I clocked how much time: no more than 10 minutes per day. With cut-and-paste (Ctrl C and Ctrl V) and AI, none of this takes much time."
Or, any verification or thought.
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Riots in England?
Far-right disorder had ‘clear’ Russian involvement, says ex-MI6 spy
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/aug/11/far-right-dis
order-had-clear-russian-involvement-says-ex-mi6-spy
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JD Vance slams CNN anchor Jake Tapper for pushing Russia collusion narrative
https://www.skynews.com.au/world-news/united-states/jd-vance-slams-cnn
-anchor-jake-tapper-for-pushing-russia-collusion-narrative/video/74e03ef8443d37085ce9f68082060e6b
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Donald Trump hangs his infamous mugshot outside the Oval Office
https://www.joe.co.uk/news/donald-trump-hangs-his-infamous-mugshot-out
side-the-oval-office-476113
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Too bad so many of the original posters left. They should be reminded every now and again of the shit they swallowed. That might teach them not to be so gullible.
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA
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