In the garden, and RAIN!!!!
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Originally posted by Brenda:
My spelling fault was to stick an "s" in your name instead of an "a". So, I had to go back just because it bugged me. I can be very bad at spelling simple things but something difficult I can do easily.And I have no idea why.
Think we all have days like that when we can't sleep. Know I had one a couple of nights ago. Just one of those things.
You are doing great Jack and it is good that your manager notices it.
Don't beat yourself up. The A is right next to the S. I think it was just a typo.
Got some good sleep yesterday, so last night was another cake walk. I was able to order my tires today before I went home and they were even a few bucks cheaper than i was quoted over the phone. Under $260. :)
They're going to call me in to schedule an appointment. Probably as early as Tuesday. Going to make sure the glass place is ready for me that day too since they're right down the street. $400 bucks plus the $40 I put into parts for the fix I did makes me a happy guy. I thought it was going to cost me $1,200-$1,500 to get this car in decent shape again. All I need is new breaks and a burner phone and I'll be ready for anything on the road again. :)
I don't know if I'd say I'm doing great, but at least the trajectory is up for the first time in years. I'll make it someday. One small goal at a time. :)
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
My spelling fault was to stick an "s" in your name instead of an "a". So, I had to go back just because it bugged me. I can be very bad at spelling simple things but something difficult I can do easily.
Think we all have days like that when we can't sleep. Know I had one a couple of nights ago. Just one of those things.
You are doing great Jack and it is good that your manager notices it.
Don't beat yourself up. The A is right next to the S. I think it was just a typo.
Got some good sleep yesterday, so last night was another cake walk. I was able to order my tires today before I went home and they were even a few bucks cheaper than i was quoted over the phone. Under $260. :)
They're going to call me in to schedule an appointment. Probably as early as Tuesday. Going to make sure the glass place is ready for me that day too since they're right down the street. $400 bucks plus the $40 I put into parts for the fix I did makes me a happy guy. I thought it was going to cost me $1,200-$1,500 to get this car in decent shape again. All I need is new breaks and a burner phone and I'll be ready for anything on the road again. :)
I don't know if I'd say I'm doing great, but at least the trajectory is up for the first time in years. I'll make it someday. One small goal at a time. :)
Do Right, Be Right. :)
It was a typo, just annoyed that I didn't catch it before I posted it. Happens.
Good sleep helps on all things. Don't rock the boat when things go smooth.
I would love for things to go smooth around me. My idiot cousin never showed up on Friday. Today I have to get laundry done and if she shows up while I am out oh well that is too bad. Can't stop and wait on her to move her butt. 'sides that is a tough enough chore around here as it is. With all the junk on the walkway I have to use to get out and about.
Talk to you later. Got to get a move on that.
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Seems we've had some tornado action up here in the Northlands. One touched down in Alonsa Manitoba Friday night. One man dead.
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Good luck with your chores. :)
Hope the tornado's didn't effect you at all.
Checked my BP twice tonight, because I just couldn't believe the results of the first one after my first break.
111/71 !!!!!!!!
When I checked it again at the end of the shift it was 123/84 !!!!
I never thought I'd have to worry about finding out how low you can go before you have to start worrying.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Isn't that a bit unusual???? I would have thought too far north for tornadoes!
Originally posted by Brenda:
Seems we've had some tornado action up here in the Northlands. One touched down in Alonsa Manitoba Friday night. One man dead.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Good luck with your chores. :)
Hope the tornado's didn't effect you at all.
Checked my BP twice tonight, because I just couldn't believe the results of the first one after my first break.
111/71 !!!!!!!!
When I checked it again at the end of the shift it was 123/84 !!!!
I never thought I'd have to worry about finding out how low you can go before you have to start worrying.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Got it done without too much damage to myself.
I am safe. We get the odd funnel cloud out over Vancouver harbour and sometimes they come on land. Drop some water and then disappear.
Alright on the great BP readings Jack.
Mine at my doc's the other week or so ago now was 130/50 perfectly normal but as a rule mine sits at around 90/30 or something like that.
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Quote:Isn't that a bit unusual???? I would have thought too far north for tornadoes!
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
Seems we've had some tornado action up here in the Northlands. One touched down in Alonsa Manitoba Friday night. One man dead.
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
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Not completely. They can happen in Alberta and the other prairie provinces because they are so flat.
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My cousin showed up yesterday afternoon. We went over the local McDonald's I saw her pictures of Scotland and the Orkneys. Beautiful country. 
She moaned about the repeating of names on some of the family gravestones around Aberdeen. I told her we do the same thing over here. She concluded it was ridiculous but hey it's a family tradition.
Learned my Scottish great grandfather's name from here though. Pretty boring. Charles.
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I'm glad your cousin stopped by; it sounds like a nice visit!
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I'm glad your cousin stopped by; it sounds like a nice visit!
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It was okay. Short and sweet. I can say this we are definitely our fathers' daughters. Certain mannerisms about both of us show that.
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Holiday up here tomorrow.
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Tested the BP 3 times again today. All three were under 120/80. :)
For my 6th day, I was really rockin' it this week. Had a whole bunch of extra stuff pulled down so I could get my extra hour in while everybody punched an hour before me. Even my team lead left 30 minutes before me. He was worried that he'd have to come back and help me out to get me out the door when he left, but when he told the day shift manager who I've barely ever spoke to that I was working till 6, she said "oh yeah. Jack usually works late" and it wasn't a problem. I thought that was pretty cool since I didn't even know she knew what my name was and we've only said hi in passing before.
As for the diet, I think I've got my rice covered for the foreseeable future now. For some strange reason, there are no good deals on brown rice where I work. I had to order a 42lb, 6 gallon bucket of the stuff for 67 bucks online. Left unopened, it's supposedly good for 20 years, but once you open it they say it's good for a year in the right storage conditions. Should be good on rice for at least a year now, and it will be a lot better for me and tastier now that it's brown instead of the boring white filler.
Ton's and tons and tons of energy these days. I seriously cannot recommend a gluten free diet enough. :)
But man, I'm sore right now. I think I'm going to go sleep for about 16 hours today. It's nice though... it's all the right kind of endorphin creating pain, with none of the bad pains.
Looks like storms are coming, so I'm not going to be able to mow the lawn for a day or two now anyhow.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Have a good rest Jack and keep up the good work.
Suppose to hit the low 90Fs here today.
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I'm glad your cousin stopped by; it sounds like a nice visit!- SIGNY
It was okay. Short and sweet. I can say this we are definitely our fathers' daughters. Certain mannerisms about both of us show that.
I take it that your fathers were brothers?
Quote:Oh? What holiday is that?
Holiday up here tomorrow.- BRENDA
Well, whatever it is, I hope you have a warm, sunny, relaxing holiday!
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I take it that your fathers were brothers?
Yes, they were. My dad was the older brother. And there was another brother and sister between them.
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Oh? What holiday is that? Well, whatever it is, I hope you have a warm, sunny, relaxing holiday!
It is BC day in BC. And it is indeed nice, warm and sunny. I've been out for a walk and back.
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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It seems that I have lost a favourite site to play mah jong on. 
Bummer.
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So earlier today out of curiosity I went to the CalFire website and totaled up the acres burned in California to date (just looking at fires over 2,000 acres). It was over 550,000 acres. That's a lot of acres.
When I left work, there was a new purple-brown cloud in the sky, this time coming from the east. As of 8 hours ago it was a 4,000 acre fire in OC and raging out of control. And during the day the Mendocino fire grew from 273,664 acres this AM to 283,000 acres by the evening.
My current rough estimate is now 564,000 acres burned, up from earlier in the day.
There are 16 major wildfires in California today.
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That's terrible Kiki.
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Another bright sunny day up here.
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My cousin also said the one thing about the family in Scotland that always worried me when I heard that my dad met some of them during WWII. They didn't want to accept her as blood kin. She had to figure out and tell them how we were related to them.
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Originally posted by Brenda:
My cousin also said the one thing about the family in Scotland that always worried me when I heard that my dad met some of them during WWII. They didn't want to accept her as blood kin. She had to figure out and tell them how we were related to them.
My grandma was basically kicked out of the family and written out of the will when she married my grandpa. All the family riches evaded her side of the family after that. They didn't much appreciate the rich Irish girl marrying the poor Polock, and even as decades went by she was never forgiven for it. I never once heard her bitch about it either.
I'm not really sure what was worse for them, the difference in class or the ethnicity.
It's kind of strange just being a "White" European mutt, knowing that previous generations of my own family didn't care much for each other based off of where they came from.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by Brenda:
My cousin also said the one thing about the family in Scotland that always worried me when I heard that my dad met some of them during WWII. They didn't want to accept her as blood kin. She had to figure out and tell them how we were related to them.
My grandma was basically kicked out of the family and written out of the will when she married my grandpa. All the family riches evaded her side of the family after that. They didn't much appreciate the rich Irish girl marrying the poor Polock, and even as decades went by she was never forgiven for it. I never once heard her bitch about it either.
I'm not really sure what was worse for them, the difference in class or the ethnicity.
It's kind of strange just being a "White" European mutt, knowing that previous generations of my own family didn't care much for each other based off of where they came from.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
My cousin wasn't bitchin' about it. Just stating a fact after I saw some of her pictures from Scotland. She told me that if I ever got to Scotland don't bother with the family. Just do my own thing.
Which is also why when they dragged their sorry arses over here a number of years ago that she said, "They were boring old white folks."
In your family's case Jack. I would say it was the class thing. Old Europe was very class conscious and marrying out of your class was deeply frowned upon.
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Quote:My old roommate had a funny saying - you can tell where a European is from by whom they hate. Europe has been contested land for centuries. There are literally centuries of wars in its history - one group fighting another. Everybody's got a (historical) vested interest in hating a few somebodies.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm not really sure what was worse for them, the difference in class or the ethnicity.
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Just fwiw - today was yet another day where a thick layer of low smoke hung from horizon to horizon. It turned the sunlight to a murky feeble orange when it came through at all.
This is Mordor.
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I don't doubt that Kiki.
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So... I've got what I think is a pretty amusing story at my own expense today.
I had it all planned out, or so I thought...
Today was the day that I got my tires and new windshield installed. :)
Tires went without a hitch. Although, I find it funny that nobody mentioned to me that I was missing a bolt on one of my tires. I didn't mention it to them either, so no harm no foul I guess.
But then... the windshield.
Had quite a few people in front of me, so I did a lot of wandering around. Bought some new break pads at an auto store that was close by, got some coffee, just wandered around. When I got back my car was already being worked on. So far so good.
Guy calls me up to the register and I thought it was done. Says he's got some bad news.... Uh Oh.
I told him the wrong year of the car, so they had the wrong windshield. Even worse, the broken one was already out. What a dipshit I am. I gave them the year of my brother's car that was on my driveway for 3 years instead of mine. I got them mixed up!!!! (To add insult to injury, I'm probably going to have to exchange these break pads most likely as well).
So I was about to walk 14 miles home when one of the guys that ran the place asked where I lived and offered to give me a ride home if I could wait an hour since he lived close by. Awesome! We got to talking about this and that in the car and halfway during the ride home he even offers to pick me back up tomorrow on his way back in. Even better, he starts late so my car will be ready when we get there. He didn't even want any gas money.
What a great thing to do for somebody. It's nice to experience something like this every once in a while and know that there still are a lot of good people out there.
Unfortunately, my dumb ass didn't grab my house keys when I left, so I had to get in through a window, and my doors only unlock with a key inside as well, so I'll be leaving through the window on my way out tomorrow. I've got spares somewhere, but I must have hid them really well 6 years ago.
It's a shame too, since I regularly pick up various tools and sets at a clearance bargain at work and most of them are unopened. I thought it would be nice to give him one of them since he won't take any money, but I wouldn't be able to get back into my garage until I get my car and come home.
I'm probably going to swing by there one of these days after work and drop it off and let them know it's from the guy he gave the ride to. Generosity like that shouldn't go unrecriprocated.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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You are right to repay that man. Generosity like that shouldn't go unpaid. It was very good of him to do all of that for a strange.
Gives me hope that maybe someone will do something nice for me one of these days.
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Originally posted by Brenda:
You are right to repay that man. Generosity like that shouldn't go unpaid. It was very good of him to do all of that for a strange.
Gives me hope that maybe someone will do something nice for me one of these days.
I found the spare to the garage! I went through the misc stuff I had bought and it turns out I have two trickle style battery chargers I had picked up that are unopened. Good for cars and even better for boats. He mentioned he was going fishing and camping with his wife and kids next week. Not sure if he has a boat, but maybe he could get some use out of it or knows somebody who could. :)
I think that stuff like this might happen more often than you'd think when you actually leave the house.
Not going to take it for granted though.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
You are right to repay that man. Generosity like that shouldn't go unpaid. It was very good of him to do all of that for a strange.
Gives me hope that maybe someone will do something nice for me one of these days.
I found the spare to the garage! I went through the misc stuff I had bought and it turns out I have two trickle style battery chargers I had picked up that are unopened. Good for cars and even better for boats. He mentioned he was going fishing and camping with his wife and kids next week. Not sure if he has a boat, but maybe he could get some use out of it or knows somebody who could. :)
I think that stuff like this might happen more often than you'd think when you actually leave the house.
Not going to take it for granted though.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
All right on the key. And you never know about the boat even if it is an old beater, I'm sure he would appreciate the charger.
I'm sure it does.
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Watching the original "Iron Chef" cooking show which was from Japan has left me with a craving for Chinese food.
I have to go out tomorrow, maybe I will get some for lunch.
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Quote:Isn't it easier to just say they're racist?
Originally posted by 1kiki:Quote:My old roommate had a funny saying - you can tell where a European is from by whom they hate. Europe has been contested land for centuries. There are literally centuries of wars in its history - one group fighting another. Everybody's got a (historical) vested interest in hating a few somebodies.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm not really sure what was worse for them, the difference in class or the ethnicity.
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Originally posted by Brenda:Quote:
I take it that your fathers were brothers?
Yes, they were. My dad was the older brother. And there was another brother and sister between them.Quote:
Oh? What holiday is that? Well, whatever it is, I hope you have a warm, sunny, relaxing holiday!
It is BC day in BC. And it is indeed nice, warm and sunny. I've been out for a walk and back.
I suspected you were not celebrating the 73 years since Hiroshima.
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Quote:News reported that smoke from CA wildfires has reached NYC. Maybe I should look at the sky sometime, too.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
So earlier today out of curiosity I went to the CalFire website and totaled up the acres burned in California to date (just looking at fires over 2,000 acres). It was over 550,000 acres. That's a lot of acres.
When I left work, there was a new purple-brown cloud in the sky, this time coming from the east. As of 8 hours ago it was a 4,000 acre fire in OC and raging out of control. And during the day the Mendocino fire grew from 273,664 acres this AM to 283,000 acres by the evening.
My current rough estimate is now 564,000 acres burned, up from earlier in the day.
There are 16 major wildfires in California today.
THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."
I can't imagine this is a new thing. 300 or 400 years ago there must have been unrestrained fires in CA, and Pilgrims were sure to have seen the smoke. Just wouldn't have known it was from 3,000 miles away.
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Funny how there was never any fires like this when I grew up, but there seems to be one or two every year out there now.
Yup. I'm sure pilgrims saw this exact thing 300 or 400 years ago. lol
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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I don't remember the fires in California being this bad either when I was a child.
And I am sure the Native Americans saw wild fires too.
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The entire Southwest is drying. There are some people who think we're entering a megadrought. Speaking of megadroughts, that's what's thought to have done in the Anasazi civilization.
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The entire Southwest is drying. There are some people who think we're entering a megadrought. Speaking of megadroughts, that's what's thought to have done in the Anasazi civilization.
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A drought on an ancient civilization could indeed make them go extinct.
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Originally posted by Brenda:
I don't remember the fires in California being this bad either when I was a child.
And I am sure the Native Americans saw wild fires too.
I was being a bit sarcastic JSF's way there. Without saying it, he's throwing a bit of climate change denial in our non-politicized thread we got here. It's an issue I don't care to debate much since none of us have any true facts.
There were wild fires before, but none of them for the most part got out of control like what we see in California these days. Climate change being a factor or not at all, it is still a man made problem.
Decades ago, tax dollars went toward "beautification" projects where we were paying people to "clean up" the forests of all leaves and other debris. Unfortunately, we're the only animals that do such a thing, and the trees knew what they were doing, evolutionarily speaking. We screwed up the entire habitat when we did that, and now when there is a fire all of that "debris" that held in a ton of moisture is gone and there's literally nothing to stop the fires from spreading.
Fires almost never got out of control like what we see today because the land used to be so wet that they'd just die out on their own.
I actually wonder if this could have also contributed to the constant drought conditions in California as well. One would assume that when it used to rain in California that these natural lands would hold in a lot of the moisture for long periods of time that now would evaporate overnight.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by Brenda:
I don't remember the fires in California being this bad either when I was a child.
And I am sure the Native Americans saw wild fires too.
I was being a bit sarcastic JSF's way there. Without saying it, he's throwing a bit of climate change denial in our non-politicized thread we got here. It's an issue I don't care to debate much since none of us have any true facts.
There were wild fires before, but none of them for the most part got out of control like what we see in California these days. Climate change being a factor or not at all, it is still a man made problem.
Decades ago, tax dollars went toward "beautification" projects where we were paying people to "clean up" the forests of all leaves and other debris. Unfortunately, we're the only animals that do such a thing, and the trees knew what they were doing, evolutionarily speaking. We screwed up the entire habitat when we did that, and now when there is a fire all of that "debris" that held in a ton of moisture is gone and there's literally nothing to stop the fires from spreading.
Fires almost never got out of control like what we see today because the land used to be so wet that they'd just die out on their own.
I actually wonder if this could have also contributed to the constant drought conditions in California as well. One would assume that when it used to rain in California that these natural lands would hold in a lot of the moisture for long periods of time that now would evaporate overnight.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Yeah, I know. I was also trying to throw back that we were here first and saw fires caused by lighting and such.
I seem to remember those projects too and getting rid of underbrush and such.
You might be on to something there Jack. But in the US today that is too progressive for everyone.
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Cloudy and muggy here today. Suppose to rain here tomorrow so we shall see.
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Had a teriyaki chicken rice bowl for lunch. I like things like that but the sauce has so much sugar in it. It gets too me after a while.
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Originally posted by Brenda:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
I don't remember the fires in California being this bad either when I was a child.
And I am sure the Native Americans saw wild fires too.
I was being a bit sarcastic JSF's way there. Without saying it, he's throwing a bit of climate change denial in our non-politicized thread we got here. It's an issue I don't care to debate much since none of us have any true facts.
There were wild fires before, but none of them for the most part got out of control like what we see in California these days. Climate change being a factor or not at all, it is still a man made problem.
Decades ago, tax dollars went toward "beautification" projects where we were paying people to "clean up" the forests of all leaves and other debris. Unfortunately, we're the only animals that do such a thing, and the trees knew what they were doing, evolutionarily speaking. We screwed up the entire habitat when we did that, and now when there is a fire all of that "debris" that held in a ton of moisture is gone and there's literally nothing to stop the fires from spreading.
Fires almost never got out of control like what we see today because the land used to be so wet that they'd just die out on their own.
I actually wonder if this could have also contributed to the constant drought conditions in California as well. One would assume that when it used to rain in California that these natural lands would hold in a lot of the moisture for long periods of time that now would evaporate overnight.
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Yeah, I know. I was also trying to throw back that we were here first and saw fires caused by lighting and such.
I seem to remember those projects too and getting rid of underbrush and such.
You might be on to something there Jack. But in the US today that is too progressive for everyone.
Haha... Oh yes. I see you're little sarc bomb now. I missed it until you pointed it out. :)
Just wanted you to know that I had dropped one too. Sometimes that doesn't get read like you think it will.
You're probably right about it being too "progressive". Either that or somebody somewhere will have a problem with it. Hell, for all I know our government moves so slow on things that California might still be doing it to this day even though we know now that we shouldn't be doing it because "think of all the jobs that will be lost" if we put those good people cleaning up the forests out of work by eliminating their jobs.
It's a shame that something like that has the potential to be politicised like everything else seems to be these days. There's irrefutable proof that these projects are the main contributing factor to the forest fires raging out of control these days.
I'd never actually heard anybody link it to the droughts before though. Honestly, I just thought of that while I was posting the last reply and edited it to add that last paragraph about it.
I could actually see how that would be ignored, even if somebody knows for a fact it was true. It screws up the climate change narrative for sure. Right now Democrats in California can scream about climate change every time a fire rages out of control or there is a drought. They couldn't do that so easily if it were recognized that those projects had a lot to do with both.
I'm not arguing against the idea of climate change, mind, but I'm just playing devil's advocate here.
Politics suck.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Got my car back today. Glass looks great, and if it still manages to leak the guy told me to bring it back in and they'll seal it free of charge. They had to do some extra work since it was kind of rusted out so they filed it down and primed it. No extra charge. They're going to be getting a great review :)
The guy didn't want to take the battery charger when I first offered it and said that "this is part of the business, it's what I do". I explained how I get first pick of clearance items before the store opens and I buy a whole bunch of this stuff that's unopened and I happened to have two of these, and since he said he was going on a fishing trip with the fam I thought he might have a boat. He asked me exactly what it was and I told him it was a trickle charger for car and boat batteries. He's like "yeah, I could use that... you mind?". lol
Turns out he does quite a lot and hustles for money. He's not looking for any labor currently, but he's going to need a guy or two during the winter for snow plowing. I told him I've got a lot of nights off of work and I could give him my schedule and he could call me on any night I'm not working that it's storming. Not sure what he pays since it's going to be his vehicles and plows, but could be some nice side cash to pay those heat bills. He got all of my info and said he'll be in touch.
This guy kind of reminds me of a few good bosses I had in my youth. I'm thinking that the plow work is a test and that this might lead to other stuff down the road if I show myself to be reliable.
Going to put the new break pads on next week sometime and finally get that burner phone. For the first time in at least 3 years it actually felt like driving a real car.
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People have studied the history of fire in the Western US for the last 3000 years by looking at charcoal accumulation in sediments. The current thinking is that there is a 'fire deficit' due to recent (150 years) human activity including fire suppression/ exclusion, compared to what would be expected from the climate having shifted to hotter, drier conditions.
The intensive and extensive fires we're experiencing aren't either historic or normal. They're a 'catch up' to the new drought-regime.
http://www.pnas.org/content/109/9/E535
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I don't remember the fires in California being this bad either when I was a child.
And I am sure the Native Americans saw wild fires too.
I was being a bit sarcastic JSF's way there. Without saying it, he's throwing a bit of climate change denial in our non-politicized thread we got here. It's an issue I don't care to debate much since none of us have any true facts.
There were wild fires before, but none of them for the most part got out of control like what we see in California these days. Climate change being a factor or not at all, it is still a man made problem.
Decades ago, tax dollars went toward "beautification" projects where we were paying people to "clean up" the forests of all leaves and other debris. Unfortunately, we're the only animals that do such a thing, and the trees knew what they were doing, evolutionarily speaking. We screwed up the entire habitat when we did that, and now when there is a fire all of that "debris" that held in a ton of moisture is gone and there's literally nothing to stop the fires from spreading.
Fires almost never got out of control like what we see today because the land used to be so wet that they'd just die out on their own.
I actually wonder if this could have also contributed to the constant drought conditions in California as well. One would assume that when it used to rain in California that these natural lands would hold in a lot of the moisture for long periods of time that now would evaporate overnight.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Yeah, I know. I was also trying to throw back that we were here first and saw fires caused by lighting and such.
I seem to remember those projects too and getting rid of underbrush and such.
You might be on to something there Jack. But in the US today that is too progressive for everyone.
Haha... Oh yes. I see you're little sarc bomb now. I missed it until you pointed it out. :)
Just wanted you to know that I had dropped one too. Sometimes that doesn't get read like you think it will.
You're probably right about it being too "progressive". Either that or somebody somewhere will have a problem with it. Hell, for all I know our government moves so slow on things that California might still be doing it to this day even though we know now that we shouldn't be doing it because "think of all the jobs that will be lost" if we put those good people cleaning up the forests out of work by eliminating their jobs.
It's a shame that something like that has the potential to be politicised like everything else seems to be these days. There's irrefutable proof that these projects are the main contributing factor to the forest fires raging out of control these days.
I'd never actually heard anybody link it to the droughts before though. Honestly, I just thought of that while I was posting the last reply and edited it to add that last paragraph about it.
I could actually see how that would be ignored, even if somebody knows for a fact it was true. It screws up the climate change narrative for sure. Right now Democrats in California can scream about climate change every time a fire rages out of control or there is a drought. They couldn't do that so easily if it were recognized that those projects had a lot to do with both.
I'm not arguing against the idea of climate change, mind, but I'm just playing devil's advocate here.
Politics suck.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Don't worry about missing my bomb. It was pretty subtle. We are even as I didn't quite catch yours.
It could have a drought affect as trees and grasses maintain soil and water. Removing trees and brushes created the dustbowl affect that caused so many people to le
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Got my car back today. Glass looks great, and if it still manages to leak the guy told me to bring it back in and they'll seal it free of charge. They had to do some extra work since it was kind of rusted out so they filed it down and primed it. No extra charge. They're going to be getting a great review :)
The guy didn't want to take the battery charger when I first offered it and said that "this is part of the business, it's what I do". I explained how I get first pick of clearance items before the store opens and I buy a whole bunch of this stuff that's unopened and I happened to have two of these, and since he said he was going on a fishing trip with the fam I thought he might have a boat. He asked me exactly what it was and I told him it was a trickle charger for car and boat batteries. He's like "yeah, I could use that... you mind?". lol
Turns out he does quite a lot and hustles for money. He's not looking for any labor currently, but he's going to need a guy or two during the winter for snow plowing. I told him I've got a lot of nights off of work and I could give him my schedule and he could call me on any night I'm not working that it's storming. Not sure what he pays since it's going to be his vehicles and plows, but could be some nice side cash to pay those heat bills. He got all of my info and said he'll be in touch.
This guy kind of reminds me of a few good bosses I had in my youth. I'm thinking that the plow work is a test and that this might lead to other stuff down the road if I show myself to be reliable.
Going to put the new break pads on next week sometime and finally get that burner phone. For the first time in at least 3 years it actually felt like driving a real car.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
I'm glad he took your payment and I hope he does send some extra work your way this winter.
Sounds like you are moving up in the world for sure.
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I just thought I'd re-post this since there's a long history of observation that fire suppression has allowed the build-up of tremendous amounts of what's euphemistically called 'fuel', but is in fact feet-thick layers of dead fallen branches, trees, leaves and needles; as well as abnormally dense forests.
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/ed35/db254f28582c76162f484e3dbb1a5af4
c879.pdf
https://www.fs.fed.us/foresthealth/publications/update99/issues1.html
Clearing out the deadwood, thinning the trees AND removing the fine litter together have been shown to reduce fire devastation.
People have studied the history of fire in the Western US for the last 3000 years by looking at charcoal accumulation in sediments. The current thinking is that there is a 'fire deficit' due to recent (150 years) human activity including fire suppression/ exclusion, compared to what would be expected from the climate having shifted to hotter, drier conditions.
The intensive and extensive fires we're experiencing aren't either historic or normal. They're a 'catch up' to the new drought-regime.
http://www.pnas.org/content/109/9/E535
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Still trying to rain up here. Nice and cloudy and cool today.
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Well that report is from 1972. I'm pretty sure they were still telling us that smoking cigarettes was good for your health back then.
It's the complete opposite of everything I've heard on the issue, but what do I know.
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Well that report is from 1972. I'm pretty sure they were still telling us that smoking cigarettes was good for your health back then.
It's the complete opposite of everything I've heard on the issue, but what do I know.
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If I am remembering rightly in 1972 in BC anyways, doctors and such were just starting towards saying smoking was bad.
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Rain held off and the dark clouds cleared out. Sunny and dry here right now at 7:45 pm.
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Quote:Which report is that? This is the only 'report' I found on the previous page about anything. To clarify, do you mean this one, from 2012? "Long-term perspective on wildfires in the western USA PNAS February 28, 2012. 109 (9) E535-E543; https://doi.org/10.1073/pnas.111283 "
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Well that report is from 1972. I'm pretty sure they were still telling us that smoking cigarettes was good for your health back then.
It's the complete opposite of everything I've heard on the issue, but what do I know.
Oh, I figured it out. You mean the early report from 1972 which I posted to show how far back the connection between fire suppression and fuel build-up goes. Followed by a second report from 1999 showing the same thing. And for good measure, here's another paper from 2015 saying the same thing, http://science.sciencemag.org/content/349/6254/1280
I guess it's a good thing to never stop learning!
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Quote:News reported that smoke from CA wildfires has reached NYC. Maybe I should look at the sky sometime, too.
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
So earlier today out of curiosity I went to the CalFire website and totaled up the acres burned in California to date (just looking at fires over 2,000 acres). It was over 550,000 acres. That's a lot of acres.
When I left work, there was a new purple-brown cloud in the sky, this time coming from the east. As of 8 hours ago it was a 4,000 acre fire in OC and raging out of control. And during the day the Mendocino fire grew from 273,664 acres this AM to 283,000 acres by the evening.
My current rough estimate is now 564,000 acres burned, up from earlier in the day.
There are 16 major wildfires in California today.
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I can't imagine this is a new thing. 300 or 400 years ago there must have been unrestrained fires in CA, and Pilgrims were sure to have seen the smoke. Just wouldn't have known it was from 3,000 miles away.
Tonight news said that we have smoke in the sky here in Green Bay, but it is coming from Canada. Yes, that is North of us.
Green Bay is 3 degrees of latitude North of Chicago, and NYC another degree South of Chicago.
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We finally did get some rain here this evening. Wasn't much and not that heavy. I didn't hear it. I looked out a window and saw that the road was wet.
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So Jack - I'm curious.
The idea that many small unsuppressed fires repeated over many decades contribute to the health of an ecosystem goes back over 40 years. I happen to have learned about it years ago under the slightly different guise of prairie fires, but it's the same concept. But the environment/ biology/ medicine is sort of my 'thing' that I've learned about formally and informally since I was a small child. I'd be more surprised if I didn't know about it.
What I'm wondering about is how such a well-known concept eluded you, a civilian of the topic. Should I attribute it to mis-education in the public school system? A big blank in schooling filled in by Smokey the Bear PR? Poor reporting in an ongoing way that just happened to miss the concept over all these years?
I'm really curious where your ideas came from, and where the mis-direction, or blank spots in your information came from.
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Quote:But the frustrating thing is that there are no recorded Histories of the Native Americans, are there? Do you know if there are any stories passed down about such occurrences? Also, Native Americans populated the whole of the continent, correct? Communication between Tribes/Nations could have revealed news of where the smoke originated. Early Pilgrims would not have been certain how far away the Pacific was.
Originally posted by Brenda:
I don't remember the fires in California being this bad either when I was a child.
And I am sure the Native Americans saw wild fires too.
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I know you dislike it Brenda, but good for the rain! It's how you pay for that lovely green environment! Otherwise, your surroundings could look more like this:
https://www.gettyimages.fi/event/record-heat-fuels-holy-fire-in-southe
rn-california-threatening-homes-775208386
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Quote:not to sidetrack your exchange, but I'm not clear on the sides of the story.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
So Jack - I'm curious.
The idea that many small unsuppressed fires repeated over many decades contribute to the health of an ecosystem goes back over 40 years. I happen to have learned about it years ago under the slightly different guise of prairie fires, but it's the same concept. But the environment/ biology/ medicine is sort of my 'thing' that I've learned about formally and informally since I was a small child. I'd be more surprised if I didn't know about it.
What I'm wondering about is how such a well-known concept eluded you, a civilian of the topic. Should I attribute it to mis-education in the public school system? A big blank in schooling filled in by Smokey the Bear PR? Poor reporting in an ongoing way that just happened to miss the concept over all these years?
I'm really curious where your ideas came from, and where the mis-direction, or blank spots in your information came from.
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My Public School in WI was a follower of John Muir. Many reports are biased with the Government programs or against. Most against point out the Government oversight of Forestation was destructive. Which side are you on? And what do you call the different sides or philosophies?
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Quote:Did you grow up in CA? And I don't recall your age.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
The entire Southwest is drying. There are some people who think we're entering a megadrought. Speaking of megadroughts, that's what's thought to have done in the Anasazi civilization.
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How much contribution to the problem do you feel the diversion of CA water to L.A. was? And also the direct flushing of CA freshwater reservoirs to the ocean?
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:But the frustrating thing is that there are no recorded Histories of the Native Americans, are there? Do you know if there are any stories passed down about such occurrences? Also, Native Americans populated the whole of the continent, correct? Communication between Tribes/Nations could have revealed news of where the smoke originated. Early Pilgrims would not have been certain how far away the Pacific was.
Originally posted by Brenda:
I don't remember the fires in California being this bad either when I was a child.
And I am sure the Native Americans saw wild fires too.
That's because we didn't have a written language. I am sure there were stories passed down of major fires or flooding even. You would have to go through the histories of various tribes in areas to see about the fire seasons then.
You know damn well we did JSF.
Yes, runners would have carried news of fires in areas of tribes that were on friendly terms.
Np, the pilgrims wouldn't have.
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
I know you dislike it Brenda, but good for the rain! It's how you pay for that lovely green environment! Otherwise, your surroundings could look more like this:
https://www.gettyimages.fi/event/record-heat-fuels-holy-fire-in-southe
rn-california-threatening-homes-775208386
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I know Kiki. I've seen a couple of fire ban signs around where I am. This will help and maybe they will go down. We shall see.
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Looks like the rain clouds have moved off. Suppose to hit 29C tomorrow which is almost 90F.
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Quote:There's a narrative that says lots of forest litter keeps the soil moist and prevents wildfires. So any fires should be suppressed. There's the opposite narrative that says that many small fires over an extended period of time thins excess saplings and brush and keeps the forest floor clear of deadwood and litter, aka fuel. I'm of the side that seems to be most supported by data, which is that many small fires are more beneficial than lots of deadwood and litter, and trees - at least here in California. Those small fires burn low to the ground, passing through relatively quickly and coolly, which leaves the fire-resistant bark of mature trees unscathed. (Though the same dynamic applies to prairies, where native plants are fire tolerant with deep roots that escape destruction, and some seeds that need to be burned to sprout. Small frequent fires burn out non-native species, remove excess thatch, and recycle nutrients.)
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
not to sidetrack your exchange, but I'm not clear on the sides of the story.
My Public School in WI was a follower of John Muir. Many reports are biased with the Government programs or against. Most against point out the Government oversight of Forestation was destructive. Which side are you on? And what do you call the different sides or philosophies?
Government fire suppression programs over the decades, while well-intentioned, allowed too much burnable 'stuff' to build up, and created forests with many more trees per acre than would naturally occur. Those conditions - along with the drought that has led to an invasion of the western bark-beetle that's killed many, many trees - have created conditions that foster massive, extremely hot fires that burn even mature trees to the ground, and can glassify the dirt.
One interesting fact about forest fires like that is that they can smolder underground in roots for months - not being fully extinguished until the winter rains come.
I don't know if there's a name for each of the philosophies.
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Did you grow up in CA? And I don't recall your age.
How much contribution to the problem do you feel the diversion of CA water to L.A. was? And also the direct flushing of CA freshwater reservoirs to the ocean?
No, I grew up in the northeast. At this point in time, roughly half my life was back there, and the more recent half here, in SoCal.
Really old! Probably old enough to be your grandmother!
I don't think that has much to do with it. By the time the water hits the rivers, it's already done its job in the forested environment. That said - warming weather means less snow in the snowpack, and melting a month and a half earlier than normal. The snowpack is like the worlds biggest reservoir - holding almost all the winter precipitation in storage, then gradually releasing it over many months. Since we can't do much about the loss of the snowpack, I've wondered if introducing beavers to hold up the water would help.
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Quote:I have my fingers crossed - no fires for you this year!
Originally posted by Brenda:
I know Kiki. I've seen a couple of fire ban signs around where I am. This will help and maybe they will go down. We shall see.
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Quote:I have my fingers crossed - no fires for you this year!
Originally posted by 1kiki:Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
I know Kiki. I've seen a couple of fire ban signs around where I am. This will help and maybe they will go down. We shall see.
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The signs were in parks around my city. But with the rain not showing up today, the signs will stay up.
There have been fires up the Interior but I haven't heard of anything as bad as a couple of years ago when people were loosing their houses.
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
So Jack - I'm curious.
The idea that many small unsuppressed fires repeated over many decades contribute to the health of an ecosystem goes back over 40 years. I happen to have learned about it years ago under the slightly different guise of prairie fires, but it's the same concept. But the environment/ biology/ medicine is sort of my 'thing' that I've learned about formally and informally since I was a small child. I'd be more surprised if I didn't know about it.
What I'm wondering about is how such a well-known concept eluded you, a civilian of the topic. Should I attribute it to mis-education in the public school system? A big blank in schooling filled in by Smokey the Bear PR? Poor reporting in an ongoing way that just happened to miss the concept over all these years?
I'm really curious where your ideas came from, and where the mis-direction, or blank spots in your information came from.
I'm not convinced at all that you're correct about this.
I also don't appreciate your condescending tone either.
At this juncture, I'm just going to attribute my thoughts on the issue as being derived from not being subjugated to Liberal brainwashing in the American College system.
I might be wrong about the issue, but at least I'm not being a smug cunt about it.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:There's a narrative that says lots of forest litter keeps the soil moist and prevents wildfires. So any fires should be suppressed. There's the opposite narrative that says that many small fires over an extended period of time thins excess saplings and brush and keeps the forest floor clear of deadwood and litter, aka fuel. I'm of the side that seems to be most supported by data, which is that many small fires are more beneficial than lots of deadwood and litter, and trees - at least here in California. Those small fires burn low to the ground, passing through relatively quickly and coolly, which leaves the fire-resistant bark of mature trees unscathed. (Though the same dynamic applies to prairies, where native plants are fire tolerant with deep roots that escape destruction, and some seeds that need to be burned to sprout. Small frequent fires burn out non-native species, remove excess thatch, and recycle nutrients.)
Originally posted by 1kiki:Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
not to sidetrack your exchange, but I'm not clear on the sides of the story.
My Public School in WI was a follower of John Muir. Many reports are biased with the Government programs or against. Most against point out the Government oversight of Forestation was destructive. Which side are you on? And what do you call the different sides or philosophies?
Government fire suppression programs over the decades, while well-intentioned, allowed too much burnable 'stuff' to build up, and created forests with many more trees per acre than would naturally occur. Those conditions - along with the drought that has led to an invasion of the western bark-beetle that's killed many, many trees - have created conditions that foster massive, extremely hot fires that burn even mature trees to the ground, and can glassify the dirt.
One interesting fact about forest fires like that is that they can smolder underground in roots for months - not being fully extinguished until the winter rains come.
I don't know if there's a name for each of the philosophies.
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Now I recall that one of the philosophies was Forest Management driven by the paper/timber industry, which was vital to early Wisconsin. I think it may have been called Clearcutting.
I think that some Western regions eventually required a competing practice, due to the long lives or maturities of Methuselah, Sequoia, Redwoods. I don't recall science driving those practices, other than hairbrained theories, coming from know-nothing graduates of College Forest Management. Seasoned woodsmen knew those schemes wouldn't work.
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Originally posted by 1kiki:Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Did you grow up in CA? And I don't recall your age.
How much contribution to the problem do you feel the diversion of CA water to L.A. was? And also the direct flushing of CA freshwater reservoirs to the ocean?
No, I grew up in the northeast. At this point in time, roughly half my life was back there, and the more recent half here, in SoCal.
Really old! Probably old enough to be your grandmother!
I don't think that has much to do with it. By the time the water hits the rivers, it's already done its job in the forested environment. That said - warming weather means less snow in the snowpack, and melting a month and a half earlier than normal. The snowpack is like the worlds biggest reservoir - holding almost all the winter precipitation in storage, then gradually releasing it over many months. Since we can't do much about the loss of the snowpack, I've wondered if introducing beavers to hold up the water would help.
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You should watch some shows on beavers, they turn desert areas green. But then the environmentalists would sue.
They even know how to make the beavers dam where they would be helpful, instead of in the way.
I was thinking of the overall drought, water table, instead of the locality of forests. The more surface freshwater, the more snow and rain there is.
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So Jack - I'm curious.
The idea that many small unsuppressed fires repeated over many decades contribute to the health of an ecosystem goes back over 40 years. I happen to have learned about it years ago under the slightly different guise of prairie fires, but it's the same concept. But the environment/ biology/ medicine is sort of my 'thing' that I've learned about formally and informally since I was a small child. I'd be more surprised if I didn't know about it.
What I'm wondering about is how such a well-known concept eluded you, a civilian of the topic. Should I attribute it to mis-education in the public school system? A big blank in schooling filled in by Smokey the Bear PR? Poor reporting in an ongoing way that just happened to miss the concept over all these years?
I'm really curious where your ideas came from, and where the mis-direction, or blank spots in your information came from.
I'm not convinced at all that you're correct about this.
I also don't appreciate your condescending tone either.
At this juncture, I'm just going to attribute my thoughts on the issue as being derived from not being subjugated to Liberal brainwashing in the American College system.
I might be wrong about the issue, but at least I'm not being a smug cunt about it.
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"I was thinking of the overall drought, water table, instead of the locality of forests. The more surface freshwater, the more snow and rain there is."
On the west coast the rain comes primarily from the ocean. So overall rainfall isn't affected by ground surface moisture.
There IS such a thing as fog-harvesting. Certain areas have conifer stands that readily condense fog on their needles, where it drips down and waters the roots, in a self-perpetuating system. But once you cut the trees down nothing catches the fog. It rolls in and back out, and all that moisture is unused. It's a puzzle how to reestablish the system once the trees are gone.
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Jack, I was specifically talking about western forests (and prairies) that are adapted to drought, not every forest everywhere. Not the hardwood forests of the southeast, or the boreal forests of the north, or the deciduous forests of the northeast and north central US, or even the temperate rainforests of the Pacific northwest.
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
So Jack - I'm curious.
The idea that many small unsuppressed fires repeated over many decades contribute to the health of an ecosystem goes back over 40 years. I happen to have learned about it years ago under the slightly different guise of prairie fires, but it's the same concept. But the environment/ biology/ medicine is sort of my 'thing' that I've learned about formally and informally since I was a small child. I'd be more surprised if I didn't know about it.
What I'm wondering about is how such a well-known concept eluded you, a civilian of the topic. Should I attribute it to mis-education in the public school system? A big blank in schooling filled in by Smokey the Bear PR? Poor reporting in an ongoing way that just happened to miss the concept over all these years?
I'm really curious where your ideas came from, and where the mis-direction, or blank spots in your information came from.
I'm not convinced at all that you're correct about this.
I also don't appreciate your condescending tone either.
At this juncture, I'm just going to attribute my thoughts on the issue as being derived from not being subjugated to Liberal brainwashing in the American College system.
I might be wrong about the issue, but at least I'm not being a smug cunt about it.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
No. I still have a few days off of work still.
Doesn't mean I'm not going to call out cunty behavior when I see it.
I expect that kind of thing regularly from T. Kiki has been known to exhibit behavior like this from time to time as well and should be called on it.
I'll give her the benefit of the doubt here and say that maybe she wasn't aware that she was being a dick, and she might very well even talk to her own friends who aren't as privileged and educated as she is like this too. It's for her own good.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
EDITED TO ADD: And just an FYI, the "many small unsurpressed" forest fires create ash and other debris that would also hold in moisture, and this is all part of a delicate ecosystem that had been put together long before man was around to screw everything up.
It would stand to reason that during these recent "beautification" projects that removed all debris, that the ash from these smaller fires were removed along with all the other branches and leaves that held in any moisture that would naturally prevent these fires from raging out of control like they do today.
I reject that you know it all simply because you went to school.
I don't believe half the shit they teach in school today because of politics, and this is a heavily charged political issue, so why would this be any different.
Maybe you should take this opportunity to question your own education, rather than lord your self perceived superiority over others.
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Jack, I actually was trying to be NICE. It obviously went very astray. But you spent several posts exchanging zingers with Brenda at my expense (which I ignored but probably shouldn't have). You even exchanged pleasantries over how subtle you were being. How about you consider it payback for your own cunty behavior? Yanno - for being a cunt to me.
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Jack, I actually was trying to be NICE. It obviously went very astray. But you spent several posts exchanging zingers with Brenda at my expense (which I ignored but probably shouldn't have). How about you consider it payback for your own cunty behavior? Yanno - for being a cunt to me.
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When did I do that?
Those zingers were at JSF's expense. I didn't even consider you at all when we were talking before you insulted my education/intelligence.... "in a nice way".
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Might as well explain why they were at JSF's expense while I'm at it here since it will only be inevitable that he chimes in as well and I end up getting double teamed by two people who usually don't get along with each other very well.
The "zingers" toward JSF, at least on my side and I'm not speaking for Brenda, were initiated because I was replying to his obviously right wing ideologies and pre-programmed predispositions he holds on climate change and his absolute close-mindedness on the issue because of his staunch and unwavering partisanship to the GOP.
What we seem to have uncovered here is an equal and opposite ideological stance and close-mindedness on this issue on your end as well.
Curious, since I don't consider you to be an ideologue for the Lefties. The ones that frequent these boards seem not to believe that either. That's for sure.
It's likely more to do with you having to question that high priced education that you received, and what that might do to your "bubble" if you found out some things you have long held as absolutes were absolutely-nots.
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Jack - I said I was on the 'side' best supported by data. I limited my comments to drought-adapted forests. I didn't insult your intelligence.
But the idea I was talking about has been around for over 40 years - longer than your lifetime! And you seem not to have even heard of it - at all. Not even conceptually, that fire can renew some ecologies.
I'm not blaming you. I'm not criticizing you. I'm just wondering as to how that came to be.
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Air quality advisories out for the Lower Mainland and the Frazer Valley because of smoke in the air. Wildfires up the Interior and smoke is being blown down where I am.
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Quote:Why on Earth would reasonable folk conjure that 6ix is acting the Libtard? Is it because of his self-confessed Liberal bias on Science, or Ecology, or Climate Change, or Archaeology, or Global Warming, or Astrothermaldynamics, or Fake Math?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Might as well explain why they were at JSF's expense while I'm at it here since it will only be inevitable that he chimes in as well and I end up getting double teamed by two people who usually don't get along with each other very well.
The "zingers" toward JSF, at least on my side and I'm not speaking for Brenda, were initiated because I was replying to his obviously right wing ideologies and pre-programmed predispositions he holds on climate change and his absolute close-mindedness on the issue because of his staunch and unwavering partisanship to the GOP.
What we seem to have uncovered here is an equal and opposite ideological stance and close-mindedness on this issue on your end as well.
Curious, since I don't consider you to be an ideologue for the Lefties. The ones that frequent these boards seem not to believe that either. That's for sure.
It's likely more to do with you having to question that high priced education that you received, and what that might do to your "bubble" if you found out some things you have long held as absolutes were absolutely-nots.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Or, OTOH, is it because of his paranoid delusions about reasonable and logical discussions secretly being code-phrases for "obvious" tangential condemnations about algore's invention of Global Warming, and "clear" chastising of Climate Change, even when nobody else can see the same delusion that you see So Clearly.
I saw no mention made of Climate Change, by either myself or Kiki. Only injected by you.
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Why on Earth would reasonable folk conjure that 6ix is acting the Libtard? Is it because of his self-confessed Liberal bias on Science, or Ecology, or Climate Change, or Archaeology, or Global Warming, or Astrothermaldynamics, or Fake Math?
Or, OTOH, is it because of his paranoid delusions about reasonable and logical discussions secretly being code-phrases for "obvious" tangential condemnations about algore's invention of Global Warming, and "clear" chastising of Climate Change, even when nobody else can see the same delusion that you see So Clearly.
I never said I believe the climate change narrative. If you read my posts to Kiki I don't trust anything that comes out of acedemia today relating to the issue because it's so politically charged and they're Liberal strongholds in the nation today.
I'm extremely suspicious of anybody from either side who is 100% confident that they're right because of their ideology.
The truth lies somewhere in the middle.
I don't believe that this is the end of the world as we know it, but I think it's foolish to believe that we don't effect our environment just because Limbaugh and Hannity told you so.
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"I don't trust anything that comes out of acedemia today relating to the issue because it's so politically charged and they're Liberal strongholds in the nation today."
Then it's an international conspiracy that for decades has involved the Chinese, the Russians, and the Iranians, too.
If the Whigs said gravity existed and the Tories said it didn't, would you stop accepting the reality of gravity because you thought it was politicized? Or would you say the answer was somewhere in the middle? Sometimes Jack, the truth is the truth, no matter which side holds it.
Personally, I don't know how this is going to play out. If we're lucky, we're on an even slope where smaller causes have smaller effects, and larger causes have larger effects - but we can gauge the effects by the inputs.
If we're not lucky, we're stepping across thresholds where, due to positive feedback loops, outcomes become incalculable and things will go badly, quickly, in unpredictable ways at unforeseen times.
Either way, we've already measurably changed the CO2 levels to those not seen for nearly a million years, changed the temperature of every ocean, and its acidity, and melted glaciers in a couple of decades that have lasted for tens of millennia. At the very least.
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They should probably take the politics out of College then. They could think of it as saving the world.
The lack of objectivity everywhere you turn due to politics is reaching a critical mass today.
If they're right about the climate change and we are indeed making the planet uninhabitable, that lack of objectivity that the College Elite decided to display when they went full Leftist could actually be squarely to blame for the end of the world as we know it.
I'd prefer we start a separate topic about this if we're just going to keep arguing the same points over and over. It doesn't belong in this thread any more than T's posts do.
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I'm with you there, Jack!
Anyway, I'm going to start making some ham and bean soup with some pork hocks I got today. It'll probably be a while -days - before I get back. In the meantime, take care. ttul
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I am so angry right now I could chew nails.
Run in with my idiot landlady again. I was just informed that I have to either put my recyclables in the blue bin one at a time or bag them and walk down the hill to the recycling depot.
I could just SCREAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
B7tch is also doing her laundry which means that I can't use my toilet until she is finished because I loose water pressure in my toilet when they do. She obviously waited until I got in DELIBERATELY to do this.
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I'm with you there, Jack!
Anyway, I'm going to start making some ham and bean soup with some pork hocks I got today. It'll probably be a while -days - before I get back. In the meantime, take care. ttul
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Glad we agree. :)
You take care too.
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I am so angry right now I could chew nails.
Run in with my idiot landlady again. I was just informed that I have to either put my recyclables in the blue bin one at a time or bag them and walk down the hill to the recycling depot.
I could just SCREAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
B7tch is also doing her laundry which means that I can't use my toilet until she is finished because I loose water pressure in my toilet when they do. She obviously waited until I got in DELIBERATELY to do this.
I really can't wait to hear the day that you're able to get out of there Brenda. Hang in there. :)
My replies may be somewhat sporadic for the foreseeable future.
I started having what appears to be a serious computer problem when it overheated last week. It's happened before and just shut down with no ill effects, but this time it seems there might be something serious going on. It randomly freezes and needs a hard reset.
At this point I've eliminated the possibility that it's one of my memory sticks, my GPU or my sound card. Also did a fresh Win10 OS install and that's not the culprit either.
I'm looking at the possibility that it's new Win10 drivers causing it and it's just a coincidence, or something more nefarious like a Mobo or CPU problem. If either of those are the case then I'm kinda screwed since this is a 5 year old build and I'd have to buy all new memory since DDR3 isn't used anymore these days... and because of a recent "memory shortage", they're not cheap these days.
Going to tinker with it the next few weeks before I make a decision about what I'm going to do. Wish me luck. :)
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by Brenda:
I am so angry right now I could chew nails.
Run in with my idiot landlady again. I was just informed that I have to either put my recyclables in the blue bin one at a time or bag them and walk down the hill to the recycling depot.
I could just SCREAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
B7tch is also doing her laundry which means that I can't use my toilet until she is finished because I loose water pressure in my toilet when they do. She obviously waited until I got in DELIBERATELY to do this.
I really can't wait to hear the day that you're able to get out of there Brenda. Hang in there. :)
My replies may be somewhat sporadic for the foreseeable future.
I started having what appears to be a serious computer problem when it overheated last week. It's happened before and just shut down with no ill effects, but this time it seems there might be something serious going on. It randomly freezes and needs a hard reset.
At this point I've eliminated the possibility that it's one of my memory sticks, my GPU or my sound card. Also did a fresh Win10 OS install and that's not the culprit either.
I'm looking at the possibility that it's new Win10 drivers causing it and it's just a coincidence, or something more nefarious like a Mobo or CPU problem. If either of those are the case then I'm kinda screwed since this is a 5 year old build and I'd have to buy all new memory since DDR3 isn't used anymore these days... and because of a recent "memory shortage", they're not cheap these days.
Going to tinker with it the next few weeks before I make a decision about what I'm going to do. Wish me luck. :)
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Me too Jack. I am hanging. It is all I can do.
Oh wow! I hope you can get your comp problems straightened out. I hate when things like that happen. This critter is one of my main lines to the outside world.
Good luck. I am heading out in a bit.
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SIX, make sure that your fans are working, the mesh screens are clean, and use compressed air to blow the dust out of the heat sinks. Heat is the #1 PC/laptop/tablet killer, and dust is the #1 cause of heat buildup.
Also don't know if you have a desktop or laptop, but in hot weather a laptop really needs to breathe, so putting it on a soft surface can smother the air inlets. If all else fails, get a small portable fan and blow it on your computer (once its been cleaned).
Best of luck!
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ARGHH! Oh BRENDA, I feel for you! But I hear that the Vancouver housing market is finally deflating. Maybe prices will come down and vacancies at better rents will open up. Fingers crossed!
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SIX, make sure that your fans are working, the mesh screens are clean, and use compressed air to blow the dust out of the heat sinks. Heat is the #1 PC/laptop/tablet killer, and dust is the #1 cause of heat buildup.
Also don't know if you have a desktop or laptop, but in hot weather a laptop really needs to breathe, so putting it on a soft surface can smother the air inlets. If all else fails, get a small portable fan and blow it on your computer (once its been cleaned).
Best of luck!
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ARGHH! Oh BRENDA, I feel for you! But I hear that the Vancouver housing market is finally deflating. Maybe prices will come down and vacancies at better rents will open up. Fingers crossed!
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Thanks Sig and I hope so. Having to rearrange how I do that will be a killer in the colder months. More cane usage for sure.
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Yeah. I've never been one to take very good care of my PC's. Couple that with the fact that I use mine in the only room that I smoke in the entire house and the 2nd hand smoke is a killer.
That really isn't an issue since by the time they're ready to go it's usually time to upgrade it anyhow. I was actually surprised to see that it had been almost 5 years ago that I had done an upgrade this time. I went a pretty cheap route though, and I only bought a new mobo, memory and CPU at the time. I kept using an old graphics card, power supply and an old networking card, all three of which caused me major problems at some point, needed to be replaced and likely shortened the life of this thing.
This time I'm going to upgrade everything but the case, since my case is amazing (It should be, it cost me almost $300 back when I was making a good buck). Fortunately it seems that most decent mobo's today come with wifi, so I won't have to worry about a dongle, and I could actually spring a little more for a GPU onboard as well and not worry about the cost of another card or the card shorting out at some point. I don't really enjoy PC gaming all that much, so it's not like I need a high end unit or anything. Just something that doesn't work at a snails pace like this ancient laptop I'm using to type this.
I'm currently installing Windows 7 on an alternate drive and we'll see how that goes. My last ditch effort is going to be trying to install Linux and seeing if there are still failures.
I'm pretty knowledgeable about this kind of stuff compared to most people, but diagnosing hardware issues was never my thing. I used to just buy all the parts and put another one together when I had a catastrophic failure. Money is a bit tight at the moment though, so this might be my opportunity to learn. Assuming it's hardware related, if I can figure out a way to pinpoint the exact component that is causing my issues it would be a super cheap fix compared to putting together a whole new rig. I bought a good setup 5 years ago and for my needs it still works just fine as long as it's not crashing.
We'll see what happens....
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Well, it seems that I messed up the screen or page that I watch the majority of YouTube videos on after I click on one of them. I don't know what I did but I guess I must have done it last night and just never noticed it until today.
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Well, it seems that I messed up the screen or page that I watch the majority of YouTube videos on after I click on one of them. I don't know what I did but I guess I must have done it last night and just never noticed it until today.
Could you explain what you mean a little more? Maybe I could help you.
Good news and bad news on the PC front.
The bad news first.... Installing Windows 7 didn't help since it still freezes and crashes randomly. Drat. I'm assuming that Linux won't help that issue either since I never had any problems on this PC with Win7 before, but I'm going to figure out how to make a bootable flash drive and see if that helps at all.
Cooling was the MAJOR issue here. I'm actually surprised this thing didn't crash all the time given how hot the room it is in gets during the summer. I downloaded a hardware monitor program that will tell me all sorts of cool stuff about the various temps of different parts of the PC. It seems that I was regularly running super hot at well above 60 degrees Celsius for the CPU, which I just read was way above what you want it to be at. Everything inside my computer is SUPER dirty and really needs to be cleaned. I'm sure the heatsink itself is all but useless at this point.
Right now, I've got the case open and a house fan blowing right into it. I've down-clocked everything in the BIOS to run way below normal specs. This makes it load the system far slower than it used to, but once everything is loaded up it seems to be fine for a lot longer. Youtube videos run without crashing, but the PC still fails enough to not be usable right now. It's only running at around 45 degrees right now, but it will still fail. Instead of locking up like it did in Win10 though, it will just reboot for the most part.
Chances are there was some irreversible damage done to one of the mobo parts or the CPU itself. I'm not going to say the GPU isn't fried too, but putting an old one in didn't fix the issue, so it's not likely.
I'm going to take everything out and get the "gunk" out of the system and try Linux and see if this thing can be saved for at least another half year or so. I'm thinking once it cools off outside it will probably be okay until at least late spring. By then I should have enough saved up to buy a really nice rig without feeling guilty about spending the cash. It'll be nice to have my first SSD and see the OS boot up almost immediately. :)
EDIT: Oh wow!!!!!
I had started writing that before the last crash and just finished it up. Since then I did take out the heatsink and clean it really good and took out the CPU, re-seated it and put everything back.
I'm running at around 14 degrees Celsius now!!!!
That almost doesn't seem possible compared to how hot it was running before. I wonder if that's accurate?
Maybe I'm in luck and all she needed was a little TLC.
Finger's crossed. :)
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Dammit.... still crashed in Win7.
That could be an OS thing at this point though. Win10 is a hell of a lot more stable and able to withstand bad shutdowns a lot better than Win7 was. (For instance, I had to run a forced chkdsk on my Win7 setup this morning after a bad shutdown yesterday... It's been so long since I had to do one of those that it hadn't occurred to me until now that Win10 doesn't ever make you do that. Different FAT system and all...)
Running Win10 for about 15 minutes now and I'm bouncing between 20 degrees and 38 degrees. Well within the happy zone.
Been running some youtube content and haven't had any problems yet....
Why do I say such foolish things??????
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SIX: Let's hope you didn't bring bad luck down on yourself by posting positive!
I hope you used silver heat sink compound to put that (those) heat sink(s) back on; it really does help with the heat transfer. Also, yes, those temp monitoring apps ... aren't they handy???
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Here on this homefront ... we have one of those fancy tankless/demand water heaters which is nice because it really DOES supply "endless hot water". (And then we restrict our showers to save on water, go figure!)
However, it developed a habit of shutting itself down, especially when we turn on the shower in the bathroom. The only thing that would make having to get re-dressed just to trot outside and push the "power" button back on more annoying would be if I had to do that in sub-zero weather! As long as it was a once-a-month event that was OK but it started turning into an everyday problem. so I thought I'd better fix it.
My first thought was the the upstream and/or downstream filters were clogged, causing a "flow" fault, so I bought replacements and changed the filters. The filters WERE dirty, but that didn't solve the problem: It faulted the very next time I tried to use the shower!
So I called the company which makes them, and was very pleasantly surprised to find that
1) They were still in existence
2) They provide support for old units like ours, and
3) They were willing to take me though a VERY detailed over-the-phone troubleshooting procedure, instructing me how to access and read off the error codes. In their view, the problem seemed to be some sort of "communication" problem to the controller, and the fault might be in the external keypad. Since the unit is designed to run without the keypad in "default" mode, they suggested that I simply disconnect the keypad from the unit and see if it solves the problem.
So far, problem solved!
If it continues to work for the next three or four days, the problem is definitively in the keypad, and we'll either replace it or just run without. However, if the problem rears its ugly head again, then they're willing to take me though an even more extensive troubleshooting procedure ... this time with me using a multimeter ... or send a tech if I need one.
I'm so happy that I found a company with true knowledgeable tech support!! Usually they just hand a script to some person with little knowledge of how things work, and instruct them to get the "customer" off the phone as soon as possible (problem solved or not) to boost their numbers.
The only downside to the whole thing is that our mosquito problem is back and bad as ever, particularly in that back corner. I ran out there without repellent on because I thought I'd just read off the serial number and they'd shuffle me off the phone, but I soon had about a dozen Asian tiger mosquitoes hovering around my legs and biting .... I literally had to go back inside and put repellent on partway thru the troubleshooting because they were unbearable; and now I have a half-dozen new EXTREMELY itchy bites.
So the next thing I did was contact Vector Control. AGAIN. They did something a month ago and fixed the problem, so maybe they can do the same thing again.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
Well, it seems that I messed up the screen or page that I watch the majority of YouTube videos on after I click on one of them. I don't know what I did but I guess I must have done it last night and just never noticed it until today.
Could you explain what you mean a little more? Maybe I could help you.
Good news and bad news on the PC front.
The bad news first.... Installing Windows 7 didn't help since it still freezes and crashes randomly. Drat. I'm assuming that Linux won't help that issue either since I never had any problems on this PC with Win7 before, but I'm going to figure out how to make a bootable flash drive and see if that helps at all.
Cooling was the MAJOR issue here. I'm actually surprised this thing didn't crash all the time given how hot the room it is in gets during the summer. I downloaded a hardware monitor program that will tell me all sorts of cool stuff about the various temps of different parts of the PC. It seems that I was regularly running super hot at well above 60 degrees Celsius for the CPU, which I just read was way above what you want it to be at. Everything inside my computer is SUPER dirty and really needs to be cleaned. I'm sure the heatsink itself is all but useless at this point.
Right now, I've got the case open and a house fan blowing right into it. I've down-clocked everything in the BIOS to run way below normal specs. This makes it load the system far slower than it used to, but once everything is loaded up it seems to be fine for a lot longer. Youtube videos run without crashing, but the PC still fails enough to not be usable right now. It's only running at around 45 degrees right now, but it will still fail. Instead of locking up like it did in Win10 though, it will just reboot for the most part.
Chances are there was some irreversible damage done to one of the mobo parts or the CPU itself. I'm not going to say the GPU isn't fried too, but putting an old one in didn't fix the issue, so it's not likely.
I'm going to take everything out and get the "gunk" out of the system and try Linux and see if this thing can be saved for at least another half year or so. I'm thinking once it cools off outside it will probably be okay until at least late spring. By then I should have enough saved up to buy a really nice rig without feeling guilty about spending the cash. It'll be nice to have my first SSD and see the OS boot up almost immediately. :)
EDIT: Oh wow!!!!!
I had started writing that before the last crash and just finished it up. Since then I did take out the heatsink and clean it really good and took out the CPU, re-seated it and put everything back.
I'm running at around 14 degrees Celsius now!!!!
That almost doesn't seem possible compared to how hot it was running before. I wonder if that's accurate?
Maybe I'm in luck and all she needed was a little TLC.
Finger's crossed. :)
Do Right, Be Right. :)
I had the main video I would be watching overlapping onto the others that come up with it. You should you wish to watch any of those. That's the rest of it.
As it was I left that page I was watching and YouTube in general and went to another site and came back later and everything had was back the way it was the day before. So I think I just have to be more careful.
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My landlady is truly an idiot. Ran into her walking up the hill as I was going down to run some errands.
She couldn't fire out the haze in the sky or where the smoke was coming from. I had to explain each of these to her.
ARRRRGGGHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I HATE STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I didn't put any new thermal paste on it because I don't have any at the moment.
All that I did yesterday didn't solve the problem. :(
After doing some reading I tried messing with voltage regulation settings on the mobo to no avail. I wasn't really holding out hope on that since I've never done it before.
I also altered "Startup" conditions in Win and the BIOS to turn off any quick booting, but that didn't work either.
Further reading is leading me to believe that this may very well be a power issue. I think that the outlet in the room I use the computer is wonky. I've already burned through 2 PSU's since I've lived here. Granted, they were both about 10 years old, so I didn't put much thought into it.
I tried using another very old surge protector, but almost immediately froze again. Then, dangerously, I plugged it directly into the wall and it actually worked for about a half hour of heavy load before failing again.
I think I'm going to do some research and order a new cost effective PSU with high ratings as well as a new surge protector. I have a heavy duty extension 50 foot cable that I use for big power tools as well, and I'm going to try that from an outlet that I've never had any issues when I get the parts.
I'm also going to get the thermal paste, a can of air spray and really clean this thing out good as well. It's probably a good thing this all happened because it was running super hot and would have broke eventually anyhow.
There may still be a chance that the PC is fine if I replace these lower-cost parts, and if I find out that it's still bad they'll all be things I'd need to buy with a new PC anyhow and if I buy the right PSU it should be compatable with a newer mobo if I have to buy a new one.
Once again.... fingers crossed.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Exactly this situation with electronics, for a company, not an individual, was covered in the comics:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
There may still be a chance that the PC is fine if I replace these lower-cost parts, and if I find out that it's still bad they'll all be things I'd need to buy with a new PC anyhow and if I buy the right PSU it should be compatable with a newer mobo if I have to buy a new one.
Once again.... fingers crossed.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Repair or Replace
Just make sure all your friends and family are out of the car, or that you've made backup friends and family at home.
https://xkcd.com/2033/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Out to do my laundry in a bit.
Then when I get back spiders to try and vacuum up.
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I wish hubby could take a look at if for you. But heat ... yeah, now that it's summer if your 'puter has an air circ problem it will definitely show up now!
The first thing hubby would do is look at how your PC was physically put together. Dust is the most common cause of heat buildup, but "bad build" is the #1 root problem. When we put PCs together (dear daughter and I do the assembly, he supervises!) he is EXTREMELY careful to pick cases that breathe, breathe, breathe; total air exchange once per second. So typically, there are at least five fans in each case. He is also EXTREMELY careful how to route all of that internal wiring... ties the wires together well up and out of the way so that internal airflow is not impeded. Not only must the CPU be well-ventilated, but also the northbridge, southbridge, and hard drives."Hot spots" can get up to 200-300 F.
We had two Dells in the lab that "came with" instruments (instrument manufacturer's choice) and when I told him about them he just kind of rolled his eyes and commented that they would probably die in a year because Dell at the time was stuffing everything into teeny-tiny cases, with the hard drive in a corner somewhere with no air circulation. Sure enough, within a year one failed, and the other failed one month later (hard drive failures).
You really need that paste.
Oh, also 14C is not realistic.
EDITED TO ADD Hubby says don't rely on the internal thermometer. They're highly non-linear. Also, what temp was that? The CPU core temp? Or the CPU die temp? 14C is a ridiculous reading, you might get that right after startup but if that's what you're reading when you're running forget it: Your thermosensor is dead. Use your "digital thermometer" (your finger). Touch the heat sink near its base ... if it's uncomfortably hot to leave you finger on, it's too hot.
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