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JEWELSTAITEFAN

Saturday, December 8, 2018 2:41 AM (P)

Only 2,337 days remaining on the Impeachment Clock.

How exciting. 001730

THG

Saturday, December 8, 2018 3:50 AM (P)

Cohan's memo is out. Can you say Cohan's fucked? I can, I can say Cohens fucked.

tick tock Donnie, tick tock

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US: Trump's ex-lawyer deserves prison despite cooperation

Special counsel Robert Mueller says President Donald Trump's former personal lawyer went to "significant lengths" to assist Mueller's probe, though he initially lied.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mueller-cohen-deserves-substan
tial-prison-time-despite-cooperation/ar-BBQD9ls?OCID=ansmsnnews11

THG

Saturday, December 8, 2018 3:53 AM (P)

Oops, the Manafort memo is out. Wait for it folks.

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THG

Saturday, December 8, 2018 4:08 AM (P)

Shit, I hear the Manafort memo is filed under seal. That does mean that Mueller doesn't want others, not just Manafort, to see what he knows and they don't. So, sadly we don't get to know either. Bada Bing

tick tock Donnie, tick tock

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THG

Saturday, December 8, 2018 4:21 AM (P)

New Mueller filing says Trump’s ex-lawyer Michael Cohen was in touch with a Russian seeking ‘political synergy’ with campaign

They revealed that Cohen told them of what seemed to be a previously unknown November 2015 contact from a Russian national, who claimed to be a “trusted person” in the Russian Federation offering the campaign “political synergy” and “synergy on a government level.”

Cohen told investigators the person, who was not identified, repeatedly proposed a meeting between Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin, saying that such a meeting could have a “phenomenal” impact, “not only in political but in a business dimension as well,” the special counsel’s office wrote.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/federal-prosecu
tors-recommend-substantial-prison-term-for-former-trump-lawyer-michael-cohen/2018/12/07/e144f248-f7f3-11e8-8c9a-860ce2a8148f_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.d3ee0c828dbc

Oh Donnie, how could you?

tick tock

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THG

Saturday, December 8, 2018 4:25 AM (P)

Trump Campaign, NRA Illegally Coordinated Ads, Groups Allege

Donald Trump’s presidential campaign may have illegally coordinated with the National Rifle Association in the final weeks of the 2016 presidential election, two watchdog groups said in a complaint filed Friday with the Federal Election Commission.

The NRA’s Institute for Legislative Action and its political action committee, the NRA Political Victory Fund, placed $25 million worth of television ads through the same ad-buying executives who also arranged spots for Trump’s campaign.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-07/trump-campaign-nra-
illegally-coordinated-ads-group-tells-fec

Oh Donnie, say it ain't so.

tick tock

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THG

Saturday, December 8, 2018 4:28 AM (P)

Lets be clear folks. Trumps Justice Department just filed in court documents that Trump committed a Felony. Just the tip of the spear folks. Stay tuned more to come.

Good gracious Donnie, tick tock

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THG

Saturday, December 8, 2018 4:54 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:

New Mueller filing says Trump’s ex-lawyer Michael Cohen was in touch with a Russian seeking ‘political synergy’ with campaign

They revealed that Cohen told them of what seemed to be a previously unknown November 2015 contact from a Russian national, who claimed to be a “trusted person” in the Russian Federation offering the campaign “political synergy” and “synergy on a government level.”

Cohen told investigators the person, who was not identified, repeatedly proposed a meeting between Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin, saying that such a meeting could have a “phenomenal” impact, “not only in political but in a business dimension as well,” the special counsel’s office wrote.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/federal-prosecu
tors-recommend-substantial-prison-term-for-former-trump-lawyer-michael-cohen/2018/12/07/e144f248-f7f3-11e8-8c9a-860ce2a8148f_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.d3ee0c828dbc

Oh Donnie, how could you?

tick tock

I'm quoting what I just posted to point something out. Look at where Mueller uses the phrase "political Synergy" in the first sentence. Check out what synergy means.

synergy; "the interaction or cooperation of two or more organizations, substances, or other agents to produce a combined effect greater than the sum of their separate effects."

Can you say collusion/conspiracy? I can, I can say collusion/conspiracy. More importantly, can Mueller say collusion/conspiracy. Yep, he just did.

Oh shit Donnie, oh shit.

tick tock

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THG

Saturday, December 8, 2018 4:59 AM (P)

I hope it's oblivious to all that the clock is running out on the forever Trumpets as well. Can you see ne laughing? Really, can you see me laughing?

tick tac guys, tick tac

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THG

Saturday, December 8, 2018 5:06 AM (P)

Guys, jack jsf 1kiki sig. Are you out there? Can you see me laughing?
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THG

Saturday, December 8, 2018 5:26 AM (P)

(WASHINGTON) — Prosecutors say former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort lied about his contacts with a Russian associate and Trump administration officials.

http://time.com/5474637/robert-mueller-paul-manafort-lied-contacts/

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, December 8, 2018 6:44 AM (P)

lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THG

Saturday, December 8, 2018 7:01 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

lol

Hey Jack, Hillary's laughing her ass off right now. So is Nancy Peolsi. And lets not forget Ocasio-Cortez. Oh my god dummy, Ocasio-Cortez is laughing her ass off tonight.

Hey Jack, dummy, I hear Comey started laughing while testifying before congress about "Benghazi" today. I guess he heard Huh.

tick tac comrade kiki, tick tac

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THG

Saturday, December 8, 2018 7:09 AM (P)

Donald Trump Jr. 'dogs' Ocasio-Cortez, so she reminds the president's son of her subpoena power.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/donald-trump-jr-dogs-ocasio-
cortez-so-she-reminds-president-n945396

Yep dummy, she's laughing her ass off.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, December 8, 2018 5:36 PM (P)

lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Saturday, December 8, 2018 6:19 PM (P)

In many scandals -- even Watergate -- the party of the accused remained loyal to the alleged wrongdoer for a long time until the political costs become very clear.

If the House moved forward and voted for articles of impeachment, the biggest question has to do with the Senate, where two-thirds of the chamber would have to vote in favor of removing a president. Will there be enough evidence to persuade 20 Republicans to join Democrats in favor of a conviction?

Ironically, the other insurance policy that President Trump has been counting on -- the very conservative Vice President Mike Pence -- can turn into a liability. After all, if Republicans reach a tipping point in 2019 and determine that a scandal-ridden President can drag down the rest of the party, they might rally behind Pence for president, assured that he would stay loyal to the party agenda.

These are unsettling days for the Trump administration. The President is hoping that he can simply ignore what the investigators have to say or else just tweet them out of existence. But that's not how Washington works. It is a tough town and there are breaking points for any party when the costs of supporting a politician become unbearable. That's when the partisanship that the President has counted on could turn into his biggest problem.

www.cnn.com/2018/12/07/opinions/will-the-republican-party-turn-on-trum
p-zelizer/index.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SECOND

Saturday, December 8, 2018 6:44 PM (P)

Since the U.S. intelligence community released its report www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf on the Russian campaign to assist Donald Trump in the 2016 election, the American people have been seeking an answer as to whether the Trump campaign colluded with its Russian counterpart. In the endless speculation about the direction of the investigation, a common view was that maybe the investigation would never implicate President Trump or find any collusion.

Maybe Mueller found collusion. Maybe: www.thedailybeast.com/mueller-is-telling-us-hes-got-trump-on-collusion

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

THG

Saturday, December 8, 2018 8:26 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Since the U.S. intelligence community released its report www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf on the Russian campaign to assist Donald Trump in the 2016 election, the American people have been seeking an answer as to whether the Trump campaign colluded with its Russian counterpart. In the endless speculation about the direction of the investigation, a common view was that maybe the investigation would never implicate President Trump or find any collusion.

Maybe Mueller found collusion. Maybe: www.thedailybeast.com/mueller-is-telling-us-hes-got-trump-on-collusion

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

Maybe, no SECOND, Mueller found collusion

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SECOND

Saturday, December 8, 2018 8:59 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:

Maybe, no SECOND, Mueller found collusion

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The GOP will agree with the President, who tweeted this morning:
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
AFTER TWO YEARS AND MILLIONS OF PAGES OF DOCUMENTS (and a cost of over $30,000,000), NO COLLUSION!
7:01 AM - Dec 8, 2018
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1071389414239162369

The likelihood that Trump will experience any consequences for his actions — even if there is ironclad proof that Trump committed very serious crimes — is close to zero so long as Trump occupies the White House.

Simply put, the framers of our Constitution had no idea how politics actually work. And that left us with a Constitution that offers no good remedies against a criminal president.

More at https://thinkprogress.org/the-constitution-has-no-way-to-deal-with-the
-fact-that-trump-is-implicated-in-a-serious-crime-9926262dbc67/

Trump won't be punished. The best hope is that he won't be reelected.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

THG

Saturday, December 8, 2018 10:07 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:

Maybe, no SECOND, Mueller found collusion

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The GOP will agree with the President, who tweeted this morning:
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
AFTER TWO YEARS AND MILLIONS OF PAGES OF DOCUMENTS (and a cost of over $30,000,000), NO COLLUSION!
7:01 AM - Dec 8, 2018
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1071389414239162369

The likelihood that Trump will experience any consequences for his actions — even if there is ironclad proof that Trump committed very serious crimes — is close to zero so long as Trump occupies the White House.

Simply put, the framers of our Constitution had no idea how politics actually work. And that left us with a Constitution that offers no good remedies against a criminal president.

More at https://thinkprogress.org/the-constitution-has-no-way-to-deal-with-the
-fact-that-trump-is-implicated-in-a-serious-crime-9926262dbc67/

Trump won't be punished. The best hope is that he won't be reelected.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

I heard a constitutional lawyer claim she looked into if a president could or could not be indicted. She said all those who made the case you could not were representing presidents; we'll see. You can't make the argument a president can't be indicted if he shot and killed someone. Therefore I believe he can.

As for your case about the republican led senate, we know, we know. What we don't know is what else will be revealed that may change that. Right now we have court documents claiming Trump committed two felonies while campaigning. I'm betting there are many more.

As for collusion, we know there was through Cohen, Manafort, and others. Looks like Stone and Trump Jr. to name two more. Remember Jared Kushner was in the Trump Tower meeting as well. Remember, who did Trump Jr. speak with on the phone when he left that meeting. Those phone records are going to be the first thing the democrats subpoena. Collusion, collusion, collusion...

tick tock

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, December 8, 2018 10:28 PM (P)

lol, lol, lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

JO753

Sunday, December 9, 2018 2:44 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THG: Remember, who did Trump Jr. speak with on the phone when he left that meeting.

I think the oddz are favorable that Trump sr. lissened in on the entire meeting. If not, that he herd a recording later.

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THG

Sunday, December 9, 2018 3:23 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
Quote:
Originally posted by THG: Remember, who did Trump Jr. speak with on the phone when he left that meeting.

I think the oddz are favorable that Trump sr. lissened in on the entire meeting. If not, that he herd a recording later.

Entirely plausible JO.

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SECOND

Sunday, December 9, 2018 5:40 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol, lol, lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Trump will be more difficult to capture and convict then Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman. With Trump, there will never be enough evidence to convict if the jury is GOP Senators. Where are Trump’s dead bodies, like in the case of El Capo? Where are the tons of drugs? It has taken 18 years to get El Capo’s case to this point. The Trump case will take longer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joaqu%C3%ADn_%22El_Chapo%22_Guzm%C3%A1n#
Trial

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, December 9, 2018 5:46 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol, lol, lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)
Trump will be more difficult to capture and convict then Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman. With Trump, there will never be enough evidence to convict if the jury is GOP Senators. Where are Trump’s dead bodies, like in the case of El Capo? Where are the tons of drugs? It has taken 18 years to get El Capo’s case to this point. The Trump case will take longer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joaqu%C3%ADn_%22El_Chapo%22_Guzm%C3%A1n#
Trial

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

I think you guys better temper your expectations and take a page out of Second's book.

My guess is that the investigation comes up with absolutely nothing, but even if there were some "things that make you go hmmmmm", it's never going to be enough to get the Senate to convict.

There have been leaks all over the place the last 2 to 3 years. Do you really think that if Trump was going to go down that we wouldn't have heard some real info about it by now?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THG

Sunday, December 9, 2018 6:35 PM (P)

These results are hardly nothing Jack(dummy). Your refusing to acknowledge that this is a necessary and important investigation says it all. And the republicans are still batting zero as the democrats take over the house.
T

The Mueller indictments so far: Lies, trolls and hacks

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, December 9, 2018 6:43 PM (P)

lol take over what?

The "blue wave" was pathetic. The Supreme Court will be more Right than it has been in decades and will likely be even further that way when Ginsburg is gone. Not to mention all the federal judges that are being appointed as we speak.

Unless Mueller has a video with Trump actually being Putin's cock holster, like Colbert accused him of, you're going to have to come to terms that Trump is your president for the next 6 years, bud.

All you're showing me is that Trump is making good on his promise of draining the swamp. It matters not to me what side powerful people are on when they go down. I celebrate the hard fall of any of these corrupt fuckers without any partisan bias.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THG

Sunday, December 9, 2018 7:17 PM (P)

‘They think the bomb’s coming this week’: Trump allies are bracing for a Don Jr’s looming Mueller indictment

In particular, White House allies tell Sherman that Trump Jr. could get indicted not only for lying to Congress about President Trump’s knowledge of the infamous 2016 Trump Tower meeting with Russian agents, but also for actions he’s taken as an executive at the Trump Organization.

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/12/think-bombs-coming-week-trump-allies-
bracing-don-jrs-looming-mueller-indictment/

You and your troll friends keep posting your bullshit Jack as Trump and his co-conspirators fall pray to Mueller, and in the very near future, the house democrats.

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JEWELSTAITEFAN

Sunday, December 9, 2018 7:55 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol take over what?

The "blue wave" was pathetic. The Supreme Court will be more Right than it has been in decades and will likely be even further that way when Ginsburg is gone. Not to mention all the federal judges that are being appointed as we speak.

Unless Mueller has a video with Trump actually being Putin's cock holster, like Colbert accused him of, you're going to have to come to terms that Trump is your president for the next 6 years, bud.

All you're showing me is that Trump is making good on his promise of draining the swamp. It matters not to me what side powerful people are on when they go down. I celebrate the hard fall of any of these corrupt fuckers without any partisan bias.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Are we waiting for another Monday?

And don't forget that huge slate of Federal Judges that got approved with nary any objection before the Election, when Dems couldn't wait to get them confirmed.

After Ginsberg is replaced, the 2 bimbos can race to be the First Impeached. One of them is already clearly Impeachable.

THG

Sunday, December 9, 2018 9:48 PM (P)

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All The Criminal Charges To Emerge So Far From Robert Mueller's Investigation. Despite the trolls posting no evidence. Add to that, Trump has been accused of two felonies. Two felonies listed in Cohens indictment. This must be the most successful witch hunt in history. And according to some, with absolutely no evidence at all. If Mueller can do all this without any evidence imagine what he could do if he had some. Very exciting...

The longer special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election has gone on, the more President Trump has railed against it. Since the investigation began in May 2017, the president has taken to Twitter and dismissed it as a "witch hunt" more than 125 times.

That criticism aside, the special counsel investigation has resulted in criminal counts against more than 30 people and three Russian entities. And while the final outcome of the Mueller probe remains far from certain, it has already generated new insights into how Russia targeted the election, the presidential transition and Trump's business empire.

Convicted: Paul Manafort

President Trump's former campaign chairman pleaded guilty in September 2018 to conspiracy against the United States and conspiracy to obstruct justice — charges that stemmed from a range of alleged crimes committed over more than a decade as a lobbyist, and later, a member of the Trump campaign.
Manafort had been set to go on trial in Washington, D.C., but his plea meant his case did not go before a jury.

As part of his plea deal, Manafort agreed to cooperate with the Mueller investigation, but in November, the special counsel's office told a federal judge he had "breached the plea agreement."

Prosecutors said Manafort committed new crimes "by lying to the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Special Counsel's Office on a variety of subject matters." Manafort's attorneys said he gave the government useful information.

In an earlier case, a federal jury found Manafort guilty on eight of the 18 counts he faced in a sprawling tax and bank fraud case.
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It marked an important milestone for the Mueller investigation: the first case to reach trial. Prosecutors accused Manafort of failing to pay taxes on millions of dollars that he earned as a consultant for pro-Russia politicians in Ukraine and kept hidden from the IRS.

The jury deadlocked on 10 counts, prompting U.S. District Judge T.S. Ellis III to declare a mistrial on those remaining charges.
Read the superseding criminal information // More from NPR

Pleaded guilty: Michael Cohen

At one time, lawyer Michael Cohen said he would "take a bullet" for Donald Trump. But since pleading guilty in November 2018 to lying to Congress, Cohen has raised new questions about Trump's business interests in Russia during a pivotal period of the 2016 presidential campaign.

Cohen admitted that he lied when he told Congress that discussions about a potential Trump Tower project in Moscow ended in January 2016. Actually, he said, they continued through June of that year.

According to court documents, Cohen also initially said that his overtures to the Russian government went unrequited, but as talks progressed, he eventually heard back from a top aide to Russian President Vladimir Putin: Dmitry Peskov.

Cohen also pleaded guilty in August 2018 to five counts of tax evasion, one count of falsifying submissions to a bank and two campaign finance violations — a plea that directly implicated the president.

The campaign finance violations stem from two payments that Cohen helped arrange ahead of Election Day in 2016 to buy the silence of former Playboy model Karen McDougal and the adult film actress Stephanie Clifford, also known as S

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, December 9, 2018 10:41 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
You and your troll friends keep posting your bullshit Jack as Trump and his co-conspirators fall pray to Mueller, and in the very near future, the house democrats.

T

I've been watching you cry like a little baby for two years now. It's rather funny.

I'll enjoy watching you cry for 6 more years. Hopefully Haken makes that possible for us.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THG

Monday, December 10, 2018 1:22 AM (P)

Your problem dummy, is that you and your troll friends are constantly forced to respond to posts updating the trouble Trump, his family, the people he put into important government positions and his absolutely stupid policy decisions and lies with posts like your last one. Only deflections, nothing even remotely close to posting evidence showing Trump and his band of losers is innocent.

Come on dummy. Show us all that everything Mueller has presented is false. Come on dummy, show us with evidence how all the accusations against the current administration are wrong, fake news.

Every thing I've been posting for the past two years so far was right on the money. That's not whining asshole, that's reality. You should give it a try sometime.

Come on dummy, start presenting some facts to back up your assertions this is a witch hunt.

tick tac

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, December 10, 2018 6:29 AM (P)

lol

You're one of the more unintentionally funny individuals I've ever had the pleasure of knowing.

Don't stop being you, brother.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THG

Monday, December 10, 2018 8:59 PM (P)

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How Involved Was President Donald Trump With Russia? | Morning Joe

THG

Monday, December 10, 2018 9:06 PM (P)

Court Filing Suggests Plea Deal Has Been Reached In Butina Case

Prosecutors and Maria Butina — a Russian national who’s been accused of being an unregistered foreign agent — requested Monday that a judge schedule a hearing this week so that Butina can change her plea. The filing was a suggestion that Butina and prosecutors may have reached a plea deal in the case.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/court-filing-hints-of-possible
-plea-deal-in-butina-case

Dare I say, tick tock

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THG

Monday, December 10, 2018 9:59 PM (P)

tick tock

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Reporter breaks down stunning number of contacts between Trump campaign and Russians

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THG

Tuesday, December 11, 2018 5:04 PM (P)

Accused Russian Agent Maria Butina Reaches Plea Deal With Federal Prosecutors

The deal also mandates Butina cooperate with federal, state and local investigators

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/maria-butina-guilty-plea-conspira
cy_us_5c0efd9ee4b06484c9fdbc0e

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THG

Tuesday, December 11, 2018 6:31 PM (P)

Look back over the past few years folks. Try to see it in it's totality. All that's been exposed concerning Trump and Russia. It shows the most obvious and extensive case of collusion in this countries history, with more to come. And What Mueller is doing is meticulously laid out according to the law. No evidence of collusion my ass.

tick tock folks

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THG

Thursday, December 13, 2018 12:27 AM (P)

OH no, say it ain't so. Gee whiz this is terrible....T

Trump Executives Face U.S. Campaign-Finance Probe, Source Says

Federal prosecutors in Manhattan are investigating whether anyone in the Trump Organization violated campaign-finance laws, in a follow-up to their conviction last month of Michael Cohen, according to a person familiar with the matter.

The inquiry, not previously reported, shows that the Manhattan U.S. attorney’s office doesn’t intend to stand down following the guilty plea from Trump’s longtime personal lawyer. Manhattan prosecutors are working on a parallel track to U.S. Special Counsel Robert Mueller, who is tasked with examining Russian interference in the presidential election and who is referring other matters as they arise to appropriate sections of the Justice Department.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-07/trump-executives-ar
e-said-to-face-campaign-finance-probe-by-u-s

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THG

Friday, December 14, 2018 4:24 PM (P)

NYT: Feds probing if Trump inaugural got illegal foreign cash

Adding to earlier reports, The New York Times is reporting that the Feds are investigating whether Trump's inaugural fund & Super PAC received any illegal foreign donations.

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SECOND

Friday, December 14, 2018 10:20 PM (P)

Michael Cohen, President Trump’s former lawyer, said in a television interview Friday that Trump knew it was wrong to make hush-money payments to women who alleged they had affairs with him, directly contradicting claims from the president.
www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/cohen-says-trump-knew-hush-money-payme
nts-were-wrong-contradicting-his-former-boss/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

THG

Saturday, December 15, 2018 12:14 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Michael Cohen, President Trump’s former lawyer, said in a television interview Friday that Trump knew it was wrong to make hush-money payments to women who alleged they had affairs with him, directly contradicting claims from the president.
www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/cohen-says-trump-knew-hush-money-payme
nts-were-wrong-contradicting-his-former-boss/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

Remember, there may be additional charges if there were other things that occurred relating to this. Like bank fraud for one.

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THG

Saturday, December 15, 2018 2:07 AM (P)

Trump inauguration paid Trump Organization, with Ivanka calling shots

The nonprofit committee that raised money to organize President Donald Trump’s inauguration in January 2017 paid for rooms, meals and event space at Trump’s hotel in Washington, D.C., according to emails and receipts WNYC and ProPublica have obtained.

Ivanka Trump, the president’s daughter, represented the family business in negotiations over what the inaugural committee would pay for use of the hotel, the report says. If the Trump Organization charged more than the going rate, it could be a violation of federal tax law.

The WNYC-ProPublica report cites an email someone with the inauguration committee sent to Ivanka Trump and others with the company expressing concerns that the hotel was overcharging for its event spaces – and what would happen “when this is audited.”

https://www.nola.com/news/2018/12/trump-inauguration-paid-trump-organi
zation-with-ivanka-calling-shots-report.html

Oh no Ivanka say it ain't so. Dare I say...

tick tock sweetheart

And may I remind my critics here that I told them come Monday since past, the shit was going to hit the fan. Since then the trouble has been non-stop for Trump, his family and cronies. Well, dare I say, told you so. Yeah sure, told you so.

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THG

Saturday, December 15, 2018 4:42 AM (P)

The press got word something Mueller was going down today at the courthouse. They lined up to see who's lawyers would be leaving after the filing to get a hint at who was involved. They couldn't get close enough to see because the entire floor of the courthouse where the filing was taking place was closed down. Think Trump...Grand Jury

Can you say very exciting? I can, I can say very exciting.

tick tock

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THG

Saturday, December 15, 2018 7:10 AM (P)

Trump lawyers seek to pause evidence collection in foreign gifts lawsuit

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-lawyers-seek-to-pause-ev
idence-collection-in-foreign-gifts-lawsuit/ar-BBQYrjC

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THG

Saturday, December 15, 2018 7:13 AM (P)

Mueller continues to be interested in interviewing Trump

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/14/politics/mueller-interview-trump-intere
st/index.html

Oh shit baby

tick tock tick tock

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JO753

Saturday, December 15, 2018 12:16 PM (P)

I'm smelling a rezignation. Its how Watergate went down and Spiro Agnew before that.

Altho I think Trump and hiz gang shoud get severely slammered, considering 1/3 uv the nation woud riot, maybe its best to just let them slink away, then spend several yirz explaining to the gulliblz how they got dooped.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.7532020.com .

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, December 15, 2018 1:14 PM (P)

lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Saturday, December 15, 2018 5:56 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

You might need to rethink that "lol". In short, Manafort and Trump were working together to discredit the investigators as well as potential witnesses.

Manafort advised administration officials in the spring and summer of 2017 on how to politically undermine the FBI and Mueller investigation in three ways, according to government records and interviews with three people with knowledge of the contacts. He also gave them advice on how some of the witnesses against both him and the president might be discredited.

The end result? Manafort will be getting more jail time than he already has. Other result? Trump is the other half of the criminal duo Manafort/Trump. Trump is eligible for the same jail time, now that Mueller has learned what Manafort/Trump were doing to thwart the investigation.

More at www.vox.com/2018/12/14/18140744/paul-manafort-trump-russia-mueller-inv
estigation

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, December 15, 2018 7:20 PM (P)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, December 15, 2018 7:30 PM (P)

For any of the morons here who don't make it to the end of the video, I'll transcribe the point he makes at the end for you.

Quote:
When you lie on the behest of the establishment, there is never a price to pay.

You can commit war crimes at the behest of the establishment, and there will never be a price to pay.

Just ask Dick Cheney, Don Rumsfeld, Condoleezza Rice and George Bush.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Saturday, December 15, 2018 7:56 PM (P)

Only 2,329 days remaining on the Impeachment Clock.

How exciting. 001782

THG

Saturday, December 15, 2018 10:40 PM (P)

Say it ain't so. Is Papadopoulos in trouble over Russian connections again. Did he really try to continue his interactions with the Russians after the election? My goodness...

tick tock pop o

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SECOND

Saturday, December 15, 2018 11:00 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Only 2,329 days remaining on the Impeachment Clock.

How exciting. 001782

www.salon.com/2018/12/15/all-donald-trump-wanted-was-to-be-president-a
nd-just-look-how-it-turned-out/

Trump's campaign looked more like a great big exercise in branding. He wouldn’t win, but he’d come out of the campaign in shape to take over another reality TV show, or maybe start his own network. Remember that?

The question always was, did Trump see his campaign in the same way? The answer seems to be yes, or else why would he have done stuff like throw in with the Russians, or have his people meet with Putin’s bankers and Gulf Arab potentates in the Seychelles? Or commit what we now know are felonies by paying off porn stars and playmates to keep silent? Those are the kind of things you do if you figure you’re not going to get caught. Which in the case of running for president, means you also figure you’re not going to win. All that shit you pulled on the campaign will go right down the memory hole when you lose, right?

Wrong. He won. And all the shit that was supposed to go down the memory hole almost immediately popped right up and started biting him in the ass. He was denying that his campaign had any contacts with Russians, and denying it outright, in January of 2017, only a week before he took office. He was thinking, I can treat this whole “Russia thing” the same way I treated everything else at my rallies during the campaign. I’ll just say some outrageous shit, and a couple of idiots in the “press” will yell about it, and it will go away.

Wrong. A few weeks later, his national security adviser was busted lying to the FBI and departing the White House. A few weeks after that, his FBI director was telling the world that his campaign had been under investigation for nine months. Nine months! A few weeks after that, he was firing his FBI director. And a few weeks after that, some patrician asshole who looked like John Kerry was opening every fucking drawer and examining every bank statement and subpoenaing every cell phone record and digging into every crummy little fucking deal with every shady character he’d ever made in his life.

All those condos he sold to Russians bearing funny money? All those illegals he hired when he built Trump Tower? All those contracts he’d welched on? Everything was fair game.

This preppie Mueller nailed Trump’s campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, and his deputy campaign chairman, Rick Gates. He went digging around in the weeds and found some nobody named Papadopoulos and nailed him. He scrounged around on the internet and found some Russians and nailed them. He dug a little deeper and found the Russian intelligence outfit that stole Hillary’s emails and nailed 12 of their agents.

Then Mueller started sniffing around Don Junior and the Trump Tower meeting. When he turned over the Roger Stone, he found some right-wing loon named Corsi holding hands with Assange, and went after the lot of ‘em. He started looking into the Seychelles and found Betsy DeVos’ brother and some Putin buddy and a big-time Gulf Arab who had also visited Trump Tower, and god only knows what else.

This week, Trump learned that they’re looking into the hundred million or so he raised for his inauguration, which turned out to be not very big, and certainly not big enough to have justified spending north of a hundred million dollars.

More at www.salon.com/2018/12/15/all-donald-trump-wanted-was-to-be-president-a
nd-just-look-how-it-turned-out/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

1KIKI

Sunday, December 16, 2018 12:34 AM (P)

Still waiting for that .TRUMP.RUSSIA.COLLUSION. package.

Even THUGGER's own post "URGENT! PRESIDENT TRUMP BREAKING NEWS TODAY With Katy DEC 10, 2018" flogged by NBC shows there is no 'there' there.

http://w ww. youtube.com/watch ?v=VapBcctXQcU (edited to be readable but not load)

14:51
So Bill, is there a breaking point for some Republican lawmakers?
14:55
I talked to one Senator who said there would be IF MULLER WERE TO PRODUCE EVIDENCE OF AN ACTUAL CONSPIRACY BETWEEN TRUMP AND THE RUSSIANS, if they were to document collusion for example ...

They wasted 48 minutes of my life fluffing and primping each other's .TRUMP.RUSSIA.COLLUSION. wet dream and pretending this one critical point didn't exist.

tic tac

1KIKI

Sunday, December 16, 2018 1:31 AM (P)

In fact, the more peripheral and tenuous the players become over time, the more it become apparent there was no collusion.

Take Butina for example.

Quote:
In 2013 she met Republican political operative Paul Erickson in Russia. The two became close, started dating, and eventually moved in together.

Wait. Am I supposed to believe she became close to Erickson in 2013 in order to help Trump win the republican primary and the general election?

Quote:
Butina and Torshin attended the 2014 NRA annual meeting - At the 2014 NRA annual meeting, Butina took selfies with Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal

Because ... Trump?

Quote:
and former U.S. Senator and 2016 presidential candidate Rick Santorum.

Because ... Trump?

Quote:
... Butina and Torshin also attended the 2015 NRA annual convention. ... In 2015 she emailed him (Erickson) a description of her plan to help the Republicans win the 2016 elections through the National Rifle Association (NRA). ... At the 2015 NRA annual meeting, she met Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker,

Because ... Trump?

Quote:
and in July 2015, she was present at the launch of Walker's 2016 presidential campaign.

Because ... Trump?

Quote:
... In August 2016, she moved to the United States on a student visa ... in 2016 - Butina attended FreedomFest, where Trump gave a speech ...

These are extremely indirect, protracted, and minor efforts to influence American politics, starting well before Trump became a presidential candidate, and never directly in contact with Trump.

If Trump was 'colluding' with Russia, why work so diligently through such a tortuous path to make contact?

There is no 'there' there.

THG

Sunday, December 16, 2018 2:41 AM (P)

These 44 Former Senators Command Senate 'to Be Steadfast and Zealous Guardians of Our Democracy'

Across-party group of former senators has written an open letter describing their fears that the U.S. is entering a “dangerous period.”

The letter, addressed to the current Senate, contains a dire warning by 44 former Democrat, Republican and independent senators regarding the outcome of special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe converging with a time of “regional conflicts and global power confrontations.”

The letter, published in The Washington Post, states that although they were on different sides of the aisle, the senators all had a common goal of upholding the Constitution—which they felt was now under threat. The letter was signed by 32 Democrats, 10 Republicans and two independents.

“It is our shared view that we are entering a dangerous period, and we feel an obligation to speak up about serious challenges to the rule of law, the Constitution, our governing institutions and our national security,” it states.

https://www.newsweek.com/these-44-former-senators-command-senate-be-st
eadfast-and-zealous-guardians-1253089

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1KIKI

Sunday, December 16, 2018 3:26 AM (P)

And yet, there is no 'there' there.

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
These 44 Former Senators Command Senate 'to Be Steadfast and Zealous Guardians of Our Democracy'

Across-party group of former senators has written an open letter describing their fears that the U.S. is entering a “dangerous period.”

The letter, addressed to the current Senate, contains a dire warning by 44 former Democrat, Republican and independent senators regarding the outcome of special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe converging with a time of “regional conflicts and global power confrontations.”

The letter, published in The Washington Post, states that although they were on different sides of the aisle, the senators all had a common goal of upholding the Constitution—which they felt was now under threat. The letter was signed by 32 Democrats, 10 Republicans and two independents.

“It is our shared view that we are entering a dangerous period, and we feel an obligation to speak up about serious challenges to the rule of law, the Constitution, our governing institutions and our national security,” it states.

https://www.newsweek.com/these-44-former-senators-command-senate-be-st
eadfast-and-zealous-guardians-1253089

And I gotta' ask - the letter was supposedly published in the WaPo, but you have no WaPo link. Instead, I see the Deep State echo chamber busy at work, in the Newsweek 'news'story about a WaPo 'news'story, in the CNN 'news'story referenced in the Newsweek 'news'story about a WaPo 'news'story, and in the Politico 'news'story referenced in the Newsweek 'news'story about a WaPo 'news'story.

All this, even though there is no 'there' there.

It must be meant to influence idiots like you.

tic tac

THG

Sunday, December 16, 2018 4:12 AM (P)

Lets see who to trust. 44 retired Senators concerned about Trumps presidency and the future of our democratic institutions, or comrade kiki. God that's a tough one. She's right about one thing.

tick tock

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1KIKI

Sunday, December 16, 2018 4:22 AM (P)

I suspect you don't realize it, but you don't actually know what's in the WaPo letter, because Newsweek didn't republish or even link it. And YOUR OWN SOURCE says this: "Without directly mentioning Donald Trump’s name". So all your ASSumptions about "44 retired Senators concerned about Trumps presidency" are laughable.

Go find me that quote from the letter!!! HA HA HA HA ...

Who do *I* trust?

NOT YOU!

tic tac

1KIKI

Sunday, December 16, 2018 4:22 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Lets see who to trust. 44 retired Senators concerned about Trumps presidency and the future of our democratic institutions, or comrade kiki. God that's a tough one. She's right about one thing.

tick tock

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1KIKI

Sunday, December 16, 2018 4:23 AM (P)

Meanwhile -
In fact, the more peripheral and tenuous the players become over time, the more it become apparent there was no collusion.

Take Butina for example.

Quote:
In 2013 she met Republican political operative Paul Erickson in Russia. The two became close, started dating, and eventually moved in together.

Wait. Am I supposed to believe she became close to Erickson in 2013 in order to help Trump win the republican primary and the general election?

Quote:
Butina and Torshin attended the 2014 NRA annual meeting - At the 2014 NRA annual meeting, Butina took selfies with Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal

Because ... Trump?

Quote:
and former U.S. Senator and 2016 presidential candidate Rick Santorum.

Because ... Trump?

Quote:
... Butina and Torshin also attended the 2015 NRA annual convention. ... In 2015 she emailed him (Erickson) a description of her plan to help the Republicans win the 2016 elections through the National Rifle Association (NRA). ... At the 2015 NRA annual meeting, she met Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker,

Because ... Trump?

Quote:
and in July 2015, she was present at the launch of Walker's 2016 presidential campaign.

Because ... Trump?

Quote:
... In August 2016, she moved to the United States on a student visa ... in 2016 - Butina attended FreedomFest, where Trump gave a speech ...

These are extremely indirect, protracted, and minor efforts to influence American politics, starting well before Trump became a presidential candidate, and never directly in contact with Trump.

If Trump was 'colluding' with Russia, why work so diligently through such a tortuous path to make contact?

There is no 'there' there.

THG

Sunday, December 16, 2018 4:27 AM (P)

Funny, kiki thinks we'll read her post if she posts it again.

tick tac comrade kiki, tick tock

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1KIKI

Sunday, December 16, 2018 4:37 AM (P)

Meanwhile -
In fact, the more peripheral and tenuous the players become over time, the more it become apparent there was no collusion.

Take Butina for example.

Quote:
In 2013 she met Republican political operative Paul Erickson in Russia. The two became close, started dating, and eventually moved in together.

Wait. Am I supposed to believe she became close to Erickson in 2013 in order to help Trump win the republican primary and the general election?

Quote:
Butina and Torshin attended the 2014 NRA annual meeting - At the 2014 NRA annual meeting, Butina took selfies with Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal

Because ... Trump?

Quote:
and former U.S. Senator and 2016 presidential candidate Rick Santorum.

Because ... Trump?

Quote:
... Butina and Torshin also attended the 2015 NRA annual convention. ... In 2015 she emailed him (Erickson) a description of her plan to help the Republicans win the 2016 elections through the National Rifle Association (NRA). ... At the 2015 NRA annual meeting, she met Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker,

Because ... Trump?

Quote:
and in July 2015, she was present at the launch of Walker's 2016 presidential campaign.

Because ... Trump?

Quote:
... In August 2016, she moved to the United States on a student visa ... in 2016 - Butina attended FreedomFest, where Trump gave a speech ...

These are extremely indirect, protracted, and minor efforts to influence American politics, starting well before Trump became a presidential candidate, and never directly in contact with Trump.

If Trump was 'colluding' with Russia, why work so diligently through such a tortuous path to make contact?

There is no 'there' there.

THG

Sunday, December 16, 2018 5:09 AM (P)

New Chief of Staff Mulvaney Called Trump a “Terrible Human Being” Days Before Election

Mere hours after President Donald Trump named Mick Mulvaney, the director of the Office of Management and Budget, acting chief of staff, video surfaced of him calling the now-commander in chief a “terrible human being.”

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/12/mick-mulvaney-the-new-chie
f-of-staff-called-trump-a-terrible-human-being-days-before-election.html

May I say a match made in heaven. Can't make this shit up.

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1KIKI

Sunday, December 16, 2018 6:47 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
New Chief of Staff Mulvaney Called Trump a “Terrible Human Being” Days Before Election

Where's that .RUSSIA.TRUMP.COLLUSION. package you were so obsessed about? Did you forget about it already?

tic tac

1KIKI

Sunday, December 16, 2018 6:48 AM (P)

Meanwhile -
In fact, the more peripheral and tenuous the players become over time, the more it become apparent there was no collusion.

Take Butina for example.

Quote:
In 2013 she met Republican political operative Paul Erickson in Russia. The two became close, started dating, and eventually moved in together.

Wait. Am I supposed to believe she became close to Erickson in 2013 in order to help Trump win the republican primary and the general election?

Quote:
Butina and Torshin attended the 2014 NRA annual meeting - At the 2014 NRA annual meeting, Butina took selfies with Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal

Because ... Trump?

Quote:
and former U.S. Senator and 2016 presidential candidate Rick Santorum.

Because ... Trump?

Quote:
... Butina and Torshin also attended the 2015 NRA annual convention. ... In 2015 she emailed him (Erickson) a description of her plan to help the Republicans win the 2016 elections through the National Rifle Association (NRA). ... At the 2015 NRA annual meeting, she met Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker,

Because ... Trump?

Quote:
and in July 2015, she was present at the launch of Walker's 2016 presidential campaign.

Because ... Trump?

Quote:
... In August 2016, she moved to the United States on a student visa ... in 2016 - Butina attended FreedomFest, where Trump gave a speech ...

These are extremely indirect, protracted, and minor efforts to influence American politics, starting well before Trump became a presidential candidate, and never directly in contact with Trump.

If Trump was 'colluding' with Russia, why work so diligently through such a tortuous path to make contact?

There is no 'there' there.

SECOND

Sunday, December 16, 2018 4:41 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:

Meanwhile -
In fact, the more peripheral and tenuous the players become over time, the more it become apparent there was no collusion.
. . .

If Trump was 'colluding' with Russia, why work so diligently through such a tortuous path to make contact?

There is no 'there' there.

By repeatedly screaming “NO COLLUSION” Trump has framed the investigation as being about something that legal experts say isn’t even a crime — rather than, say, obstruction of justice.

“Most criminals are convicted often on significant circumstantial evidence, but in the case of politicians, people who like them insist, ‘Show me the money, show me the smoking gun,'” says Paul Rosenzweig, who worked on Ken Starr’s investigation of Bill Clinton.

Prosecutors complain that jurors demand unrealistic levels of forensic evidence of criminality. Trump has capitalized on this by claiming in at least 20 tweets that Mueller doesn’t have “evidence” of crimes committed by him. But the circumstantial evidence of wrongdoing by the president is becoming overwhelming, even though Trump’s supporters are holding out for that smoking gun.

Trump's messaging strategy has set monumentally high standards for Mueller’s investigation; the growing convictions against all his henchmen are offset by the repeated insistence that Mueller has nothing directly on Trump himself.

That wouldn’t be much of a defense in court, but the chances are that Trump won’t have to defend himself in front of a judge. Trump’s jury is Congress — lawmakers who base their views in large part on those of Republicans who voted for Trump. So, while Trump’s angry, repetitive tweeting into the abyss seems crass, the way Trump has framed the probe — so that even his opponents have exceptionally high expectations of Mueller — could be what saves him.

More at https://qz.com/1496496/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

THG

Sunday, December 16, 2018 6:48 PM (P)

kiki and others SECOND keep saying no collusion because as you point out, as I, G and others have said before, collusion itself is not a chargeable offense. And, as you, I, G and others have also pointed out, the actual charges may include conspiracy, obstruction, money laundering, campaign finance violations, bank fraud and the list goes on. Hell, we could even see the RICO act enacted.

We've seen as many as 36 or so indicted with guilty pleas and jail time in Mueller's attempt to clean house. Comrade kiki and her few cronies post as though none of that reflects back onto Trump. He is now being investigated up the yazoo and the democrats haven't even started yet. This doesn't even include his corrupt cabinet members.

Trump has trashed our intelligence agencies, our justice department, the FBI and so on. Can you blame them for wanting to expose Trump as being the crook.

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SECOND

Sunday, December 16, 2018 7:10 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
kiki and others SECOND keep saying no collusion because as you point out, as I, G and others have said before, collusion itself is not a chargeable offense. And, as you, I, G and others have also pointed out, the actual charges may include conspiracy, obstruction, money laundering, campaign finance violations, bank fraud and the list goes on. Hell, we could even see the RICO act enacted.

Trump has trashed our intelligence agencies, our justice department, the FBI and so on. Can you blame them for wanting to expose Trump as being the crook.

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Have you seen the movie First Man, about Neil Armstrong? Trump is the Anti-Armstrong. When a problem needs Trump to be quiet, listen and think, he talks louder and longer and makes the least sense. When a problem needs careful attention, Trump is flipping switches at random and yanking the control yoke in an epileptic seizure. The guy isn't a criminal so much as he is nuts, maybe criminally insane describes him. Calmer people, ones that didn't vote for Trump, notice Trump has serious mental problems that started long ago:
www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/donald-trump-scandals/474
726/

"When in danger or in doubt, Run in circles, scream and shout." - Ancient Trump family adage.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

THG

Sunday, December 16, 2018 7:16 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
kiki and others SECOND keep saying no collusion because as you point out, as I, G and others have said before, collusion itself is not a chargeable offense. And, as you, I, G and others have also pointed out, the actual charges may include conspiracy, obstruction, money laundering, campaign finance violations, bank fraud and the list goes on. Hell, we could even see the RICO act enacted.

Trump has trashed our intelligence agencies, our justice department, the FBI and so on. Can you blame them for wanting to expose Trump as being the crook.

T

Have you seen the movie First Man, about Neil Armstrong? Trump is the Anti-Armstrong. When a problem needs Trump to be quiet, listen and think, he talks louder and longer and makes the least sense. When a problem needs careful attention, Trump is flipping switches at random and yanking the control yoke in an epileptic seizure. The guy isn't a criminal so much as he is nuts, maybe criminally insane describes him. Calmer people, ones that didn't vote for Trump, notice Trump has serious mental problems that started long ago:
www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/donald-trump-scandals/474
726/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

People say you can't charge Trump with obstruction because he is doing it in plan sight. Therefore that must not be his intention. Stupid is not a defense.

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SECOND

Sunday, December 16, 2018 8:52 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:

People say you can't charge Trump with obstruction because he is doing it in plan sight. Therefore that must not be his intention. Stupid is not a defense.

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Ross Douthat’s column arguing for the superiority of “25th Amendment remedies” to impeachment for Donald Trump’s various misdeeds is impressive in its ability to actually find something new and interesting to say about the president. But its premise — shared with a David Brooks column from earlier in the week — that we should understand Trump’s behavior as resembling that of a little kid is fundamentally wrong.

“It is a child who blurts out classified information in order to impress distinguished visitors,” Douthat writes. “It is a child who asks the head of the F.B.I. why the rules cannot be suspended for his friend and ally.”

The truth is that Trump is no child. He’s a man who’s learned over the course of a long and rich life that he is free to operate without consequence, a privilege that America grants to the wealthy.

Trump has spent his entire career skating away from lawbreaking with a fine paid here and a political contribution there. He’s an unusual figure, but also very much an exemplar of his era and a product of a decades-long ideological campaign to do as much as possible to empower the wealthy and powerful.

More at www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/5/18/15654566/trump-toddler

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SECOND

Sunday, December 16, 2018 9:00 PM (P)

The presidency is not just another office. It has become, for good reasons and bad ones, a seat of semi-monarchical political power, a fixed place on which unimaginable pressures are daily brought to bear, and the final stopping point for decisions that can lead very swiftly to life or death for people the world over.

One does not need to be a Marvel superhero or Nietzschean Übermensch to rise to this responsibility. But one needs some basic attributes:

1) a reasonable level of intellectual curiosity,
2) a certain seriousness of purpose,
3) a basic level of managerial competence,
4) a decent attention span,
5) a functional moral compass,
6) a measure of restraint and self-control.

And if a president is deficient in one or more of them, you can be sure it will be exposed.

Trump is seemingly deficient in them all. Some he perhaps never had, others have presumably atrophied with age. He certainly has political talent — charisma, a raw cunning, an instinct for the jugular, a form of the common touch, a certain creativity that normal politicians lack. He would not have been elected without these qualities. But they are not enough, they cannot fill the void where other, very normal human gifts should be.

More at www.nytimes.com/2017/05/16/opinion/25th-amendment-trump.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

THG

Monday, December 17, 2018 2:07 AM (P)

Poll: 62 percent say Trump isn't telling the truth in Russia probe

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/poll-62-percent-say-tr
ump-isn-t-telling-truth-russia-n948226

This thing is picking up speed.

tick tock

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THG

Monday, December 17, 2018 2:11 AM (P)

tick tock____ T

At least six entities linked to President Donald Trump are the focus of investigations, with the possibility of others that have not been made public.

THG

Monday, December 17, 2018 3:00 AM (P)

Trump, I'm waiting and I don't like to wait.

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THG

Wednesday, December 19, 2018 5:38 AM (P)

Judge excoriates Trump ex-adviser Flynn, delays Russia probe sentencing

At one point, Sullivan asked prosecutors if Flynn could have been charged with treason, although the judge later said he had not been suggesting such a charge was warranted.

“Arguably, you sold your country out,” Sullivan told Flynn. “I’m not hiding my disgust, my disdain for this criminal offense.”

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-flynn/judge-excori
ates-trump-ex-adviser-flynn-delays-russia-probe-sentencing-idUSKBN1OH0D7

Oh shit...

tick tock

T

THG

Wednesday, December 19, 2018 5:42 AM (P)

DC Circuit upholds mystery grand jury subpoena

An unnamed corporation owned by a foreign government cannot avoid a grand jury subpoena, according to a court decision on Tuesday.

The D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals upheld the subpoena of a mystery witness in a sealed case that earlier this year stirred speculation about possible ties to special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia investigation.

According to the decision, an unnamed corporation owned by a foreign country, known only in the opinion as "Country A," tried to quash the subpoena, arguing it was immune from criminal proceedings under the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act and that the subpoena is unenforceable because it would require "the Corporation" to violate "Country A's" domestic law.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/dc-circuit-upholds-mystery-gra
nd-jury-subpoena/ar-BBR9bsK?li=BBnbcA1

Oh goodi...

tick tock
T

THG

Wednesday, December 19, 2018 6:01 AM (P)

Chris Matthews: Trump Jr., Ivanka ‘stand as the next dominoes to fall’

MSNBC host Chris Matthews said Monday that Donald Trump Jr. and Ivanka Trump could be "the next dominoes to fall" in special counsel Robert Mueller's ongoing investigation.

"The president’s children stand right in the line of Mueller’s investigative progress," Matthews said on "Hardball." "They stand as the next dominoes to fall."

"Therein lies the problem, where earlier Mueller subjects have given [President] Trump up, these two lack the option to do that. They can hardly testify against their father," he continued. "If the prosecutor will not be stopped and the kids will not fall to him, we see the president’s adult children heading to prison."

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/421828-chris-matthews-trump-jr-ivan
ka-stand-as-the-next-dominoes-to-fall

Oh my goodness. This is terrible.

T

THG

Thursday, December 20, 2018 4:50 AM (P)

For those of you who thought things were going to slow down with the Mueller investigation think again. I'm so excited.

tick tock

T

THG

Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:04 AM (P)

Mueller seeks Roger Stone’s testimony to House intelligence panel, suggesting special counsel is near end of probe of Trump adviser

Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III asked the House Intelligence Committee on Friday for an official transcript of Trump adviser Roger Stone’s testimony, according to people familiar with the request, a sign that prosecutors could be moving to charge him with a crime.

Washington Post

tick tock

T

THG

Thursday, December 20, 2018 8:38 PM (P)

George Conway Thinks Trump Admin’s Relationship With GOP Is About To Collapse

Trump adviser Kellyanne Conway’s husband said an online article claiming “the signs of a collapse are here” was “exactly right.”

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/george-conway-donald-trump-kellya
nne-conway-collapse_us_5c1b8cdee4b08aaf7a85a0a2

Yea Trump, way to go loser. All the Dems need is a dozen Republicans decide to give up on Trump and BAM...

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THG

Thursday, December 20, 2018 8:40 PM (P)

Yea Trump you're cornered, way to go loser. Only god knows what he'll do in the next 48 hours. This shit is getting out of hand.

And Mueller is still out there.

tick tock

T

THG

Thursday, December 20, 2018 10:31 PM (P)

Trump, I'm waiting and I don't like to wait.

T

THG

Thursday, December 20, 2018 10:31 PM (P)

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JO753

Friday, December 21, 2018 2:56 PM (P)

Nansy Pelosi iz still saying no to impeachment.

She sez its a waste uv time kuz the Senate woudnt impeach anyway. The real reazon iz probably the powerful vote motivation Trump givz to Democrats and the worst Trump duz, the stronger it gets.

Given the increasing level uv seemingly erratic behavior, she can count on him doing stuff that will start alienating hiz base and damajing the GoP even more, so she may be doing the rite thing. The country woud be a much better plase if the party totally crashed.

But its a horribly danjerous game.

Trump coud do sumthing so damajing to the country that everybody in Washington gets splattered with stink.

I HOPE she realizez that Trump iz not really being erratic. He iz just following orderz. Wut will Putin order him to do wen it bekumz apparent that he will soon hav no power?

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.7532020.com .

THG

Friday, December 21, 2018 6:22 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
Nansy Pelosi iz still saying no to impeachment.

She sez its a waste uv time kuz the Senate woudnt impeach anyway. The real reazon iz probably the powerful vote motivation Trump givz to Democrats and the worst Trump duz, the stronger it gets.

Given the increasing level uv seemingly erratic behavior, she can count on him doing stuff that will start alienating hiz base and damajing the GoP even more, so she may be doing the rite thing. The country woud be a much better plase if the party totally crashed.

But its a horribly danjerous game.

Trump coud do sumthing so damajing to the country that everybody in Washington gets splattered with stink.

I HOPE she realizez that Trump iz not really being erratic. He iz just following orderz. Wut will Putin order him to do wen it bekumz apparent that he will soon hav no power?

They only need a dozen JO and Trump is delivering them up now. Still, we need the Mueller report before acting. Even though what Trump has done so far is far worse then what Clinton did or Nixon.

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THG

Sunday, December 23, 2018 12:27 AM (P)

One way or another, it will be the Trump administration’s lies about Russia that lead us to the truth.

https://www.latimes.com/la-ol-opinion-newsletter-russia-lies-20181222-
htmlstory.html

Amen

T

SECOND

Sunday, December 23, 2018 11:37 PM (P)

The same legal entanglements may trip Trump as they did Nixon. Nixon cheated on his taxes. He got caught because an IRS employee (later fired) sent his tax returns to the Providence Journal-Bulletin. Nixon’s tax returns showed he paid just $792.81 in federal income taxes in 1970 and $878.03 in 1971. His annual salary was $200,000. The Joint Committee on Taxation — Congress’s in-house office of nonpartisan tax experts — determined that Nixon actually owed $475,431 in a 1,000 page report that required 4 months to write. If Nixon had not been pardoned by Vice-President Ford, he might have paid what he owed, but there is no record he paid anything at all. If Trump follows Nixon's example, Trump could avoid paying his taxes if he resigns in exchange for a pardon from his Vice-President Pence.
www.politico.com/story/2018/12/23/nixon-trump-tax-returns-1050587

Pence might be delighted to be President for only a few months in 2020-21, especially if it looks like Trump cannot win reelection. Only time will tell what Trump and Pence decide to do. I'm pretty sure Trump knows approximately how many $billions he cheated in taxes. The bigger the number the more likely Trump is to resign and let Pence entertain himself as President, in exchange for a pardon on his taxes.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

THG

Tuesday, December 25, 2018 3:38 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:

Trump, I'm waiting and I don't like to wait.

Just how serious are the legal problems facing the president and his family as the New York attorney general plans an investigation into the Trump Organization?

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, December 25, 2018 1:52 PM (P)

Only 2,319 days remaining on the Impeachment Clock.

How exciting. 001782

Merry Christmas.

REAVERFAN

Wednesday, December 26, 2018 12:15 AM (P)

To all those who claim the Mueller investigation is a "witch hunt", let's look at the facts.

There already have been a number of people indicted as well as those who have plead guilty, including Popadopolous for lying about contacts with Russians, Gates for doing the same, Flynn for lying about contacts with Russians, Manafort -- Trump's former campaign chairman – for corruption and tax evasion (the lesser of the many charges possible against him), Cohen for lying about contacts with Russians including business dealings in Moscow, and most BEFORE the presidential election of 2016, many Russian intelligence officers (GRU), the Russian Internet Research Agency (the troll farm), and Putin's right hand man Prigozhin.

My hunch is that after January 3, when there will be some protection in Congress for Mueller's investigation, other indictments will follow, including probably Julian Assange (sealed indictment already leaked), Carter Page, and Trump Campaign Advisor Roger Stone. In Stone's case, he already has admitted contact with the main hacker, Gucifer 2.0, identified as a GRU officer, and Wikileaks, the vehicle the Russians chose to divulge the emails they had hacked. But let's not term Stone's role as collusion; let's use the legal term of conspiracy. Also, we haven't even touched upon Trump's possible witness tampering and obstruction of justice. His goose is cooked and he knows it and he is now frantic. All he can do is try to discredit the investigations and the judiciary by manipulating the press, and Putin has ordered his trolls to do the same thing. But it is too late. Witch hunt? Indeed.

For more details on those indicted/arrested/plead guilty, see https://www.axios.com/trump-russia-mueller-investigation-37608752-bef7
-4b25-a7dd-89e3032bec7e.html

How the lone DNC hacker Guccifer 2.0 slipped up and identified himself as a GRU officer: https://www.thedailybeast.com/exclusive-lone-dnc-hacker-guccifer-20-sl
ipped-up-and-revealed-he-was-a-russian-intelligence-officer?via=membership_newsletter&source=midterms_package&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=BI-2018-Most%20Read%20Stories&utm_term=BI-All%20Subs

A key in the Mueller investigation, the fall of Trump Tower Moscow and the rise of the Rosneft deal: https://hillreporter.com/fall-trump-power-rise-rosneft-deal-17323

Closing in on Roger Stone: https://investigaterussia.org/media/2018-12-19/closing-stone?utm_sourc
e=Committee+to+Investigate+Russia&utm_campaign=4f9781f83c-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_12_20_03_37&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_70adbf3447-4f9781f83c-49097413

Russian trolls ordered to target Special Counsel Robert Mueller: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/russian-disinformat
ion-teams-targeted-robert-s-mueller-iii-says-report-prepared-for-senate/2018/12/17/0e0047f6-0230-11e9-8186-4ec26a485713_story.html?utm_term=.e679ed1dde4b

REAVERFAN

Wednesday, December 26, 2018 1:33 AM (P)

Ex-Mossad Head: Russia Decided Trump Was Their Best Candidate, and Ran Him for President
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-ex-mossad-chief-russia-ra
n-trump-for-president-1.6782359

THG

Friday, December 28, 2018 3:33 AM (P)

Cohen’s ‘never been to Prague’ tweet comes back to haunt him

McClatchy reports that a mobile phone traced to Cohen pinged cell towers around Prague in the summer of 2016, around the same time that the so-called Steele Dossier said he met with Russian officials about the 2016 election. The news outlet says four people spoke with them about the latest information.

https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/cohen-never-been-to-prague/

tick tock

T

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, December 28, 2018 5:53 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
The same legal entanglements may trip Trump as they did Nixon. Nixon cheated on his taxes. He got caught because an IRS employee (later fired) sent his tax returns to the Providence Journal-Bulletin. Nixon’s tax returns showed he paid just $792.81 in federal income taxes in 1970 and $878.03 in 1971. His annual salary was $200,000. The Joint Committee on Taxation — Congress’s in-house office of nonpartisan tax experts — determined that Nixon actually owed $475,431 in a 1,000 page report that required 4 months to write. If Nixon had not been pardoned by Vice-President Ford, he might have paid what he owed, but there is no record he paid anything at all. If Trump follows Nixon's example, Trump could avoid paying his taxes if he resigns in exchange for a pardon from his Vice-President Pence.
www.politico.com/story/2018/12/23/nixon-trump-tax-returns-1050587

lol. Just like anything else Trump has been accused of so far, there is zero evidence that he cheated on his taxes.

The only evidence Maddow ever came up with was Trump's 2005 tax return where he paid everything he owed.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THG

Friday, December 28, 2018 6:31 PM (P)

Democrats poised to take over House amid U.S. government shutdown

https://globalnews.ca/news/4798404/us-government-shutdown-democrats-ta
keover/

What jack and his fellow trolls don't wish to admit is that their chants of no evidence are drowning in an ocean of it.

T

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, December 28, 2018 6:45 PM (P)

lol

Democrats taking over the house soon. Prepare to be severely disappointed when nothing happens. :)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Friday, December 28, 2018 8:04 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol

Democrats taking over the house soon. Prepare to be severely disappointed when nothing happens. :)

olo

No worries - I was prepared months ago for you to say "nothing has happened" even after 17 different indictments.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, December 28, 2018 8:47 PM (P)

And despite all of that, Trump is still president and enjoys a higher approval rating than Obama. Whoops.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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