Punishing Russia With Sanctions

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SIGNYM

Monday, March 14, 2022 1:17 PM

THUGR believes the M$M bc it tells him what he wants to hear. "Critical thinking" is a foreign concept.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

SECOND

Monday, March 14, 2022 7:39 PM

Ukraine is not Invasion. Is "Special Military Operation."

January 6th is not Insurrection. Is "Legitimate Political Discourse."

See the similarities?

Russia Makes Calling Ukraine War an 'Invasion' a Criminal Offense

Domestic media in Russia are under a tight leash as to how they report the war in Ukraine with words like "invasion" or "assault" prohibited.

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-war-invasion-criminal-offense-
duma-1684810

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Monday, March 14, 2022 7:50 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh, I have to point out what a dunb-ass you are.

The buildings that were targeted are NOT houses or schools or apartments, and DEFINITELY not hospitals.

They are large, single story flat-roofed commercial buildings. one looks like a warehouse.

So is ok to bomb, da?

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
If you look at the paking lots, they are EMPTY. Clearly not being used for their intended purpose.

People generally don't go shopping when bombs are dropping. Good slogan though: "Extended hours during Invasion! Plenty of Parking!"

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Thanks to the cloud cover which looks like drifting smoke (but isn't) and the fact that the photos were clearly taken in winter when everything looks brown, it looks like there is extensive damage (but there isn't).

Yep - it's that time of year over there. You accidentally got one right.

So... just to have you on the record... you really don't think Russia is bombing Ukraine?

THG

Monday, March 14, 2022 7:50 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:

Russia is done. Its citizens have followed Putin down a rabbit hole of doom. Signym will post all manner of bullshit about Russia surviving this, but it won’t. Everyday we’ll see on the news how Russia is committing war crime after war crime and heading not just into a recession, but a full-blown depression. Putin and therefore Russia, is done, over, kaput. Broken and useless; no longer working or effective.

Time for Signym's veil of tears followed by my many replies of, I told you so.

Uh huh.

Is this another "endless clock" prediction that never seems to "get there"?
/snicker

Oh BTW it's "vale", (as in "valley") not veil.

Quote:
"Vale of tears" (Latin: vallis lacrimarum) is a Christian phrase referring to the tribulations of life that Christian doctrine says are left behind only when one leaves the world and enters Heaven.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vale_of_tears

Random People Start Seizing Properties Belonging to Russian Oligarchs and Putin’s Daughter

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/random-people-start-seizing-prope
rties-belonging-to-russian-oligarchs-and-putin-s-daughter/ar-AAV2hdh?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

Oh my god, I used the incorrect spelling of a word that is pronounced the same as another word meaning something else. What shall I do what shall I do? Too funny…

It looks as though the Putin's are being run out of town. Actually, I should say towns. I told you so...

T

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Monday, March 14, 2022 7:52 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Oh my god, I used the incorrect spelling of a word that is pronounced the same as another word meaning something else. What shall I do what shall I do? Too funny…

It looks as though the Putins are being run out of town. I told you so...

The oceans of stupid that she posts - amazing. Retirement is driving her battier than usual.

THG

Monday, March 14, 2022 7:56 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by CAPTAINCRUNCH:
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:

Oh my god, I used the incorrect spelling of a word that is pronounced the same as another word meaning something else. What shall I do what shall I do? Too funny…

It looks as though the Putins are being run out of town. I told you so...

The oceans of stupid that she posts - amazing. Retirement is driving her battier than usual.

This thing is, is that while she posts the bullshit she posts, you and I know she knows the truth. And the truth has to be driving her crazy, absolutely crazy.

T

SIGNYM

Monday, March 14, 2022 8:00 PM

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Quote:
So... just to have you on the record... you really don't think Russia is bombing Ukraine?

You really think everyone is so stupid that they can't see the rhetorical trick that you're playing? That's a pretty obvious one!

So, just to have you on record ... is the DNC not paying you enough to lie and libel, CAPON?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THG

Monday, March 14, 2022 8:06 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Quote:
So... just to have you on the record... you really don't think Russia is bombing Ukraine?
You really think everyone is so stupid that they can't see the rhetorical trick that you're playing? That's a pretty obvious one!

So, just to have you on record ... is the DNC not paying you enough to lie and libel, CAPON?

Signym, for every lie you post there are a hundred videos proving you to be a liar.

T

THG

Monday, March 14, 2022 8:09 PM

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Russia is continuing its assault on Ukraine, including the apparent shelling of residential neighborhoods. Ukrainian President Zelensky said the country would "never forgive" the deaths of civilians

SIGNYM

Monday, March 14, 2022 8:37 PM

I noticed your video is caveated with "Seems to be" which is a big red flag that says "This information is likely not true".

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, March 14, 2022 8:52 PM

There's nothing I've seen that couldn't have been done with far less than the production budget of your standard Marvel movie.

And we've got what we think is an unlimited printing press and have already committed billions to this new bullshit of the week.

They've given us no reason to believe any of what they say is true.

And you idiots sound just like John Bolton and the rest of the Neo-Con warhawk pieces of shit right now, so I'm not going to be losing any sleep.

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Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

THG

Monday, March 14, 2022 9:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

I noticed your video is caveated with "Seems to be" which is a big red flag that says "This information is likely not true".

The video is from CBS news asshole.

I’ve claimed Signym to be many hateful things over the years due to the lies she has posted on behalf of Putin and other authoritarian leaders. While she was doing this she carpet bombed the Democracies of the world. By the way, she choses to live in a Democracy.

Now, she is doing it while Putin is massacring civilians in the Ukraine just as she did when he bombed hospitals in Syria. Massacre is the word the Pope just used to describe what Putin was doing. Nothing Signym is saying is true and she has not condemned Putin at all.

There is nothing she can say about anything she perceives to be immoral ever again. This is who I have said she is since I first posted at firefly fans. Again, I and others like G have told all posting here for years this is who she is. And man oh man were we correct. What a piece of shit she is.

T

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, March 14, 2022 10:07 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

I noticed your video is caveated with "Seems to be" which is a big red flag that says "This information is likely not true".

The video is from CBS news asshole.

So what?

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Now, she is doing it while Putin is massacring civilians in the Ukraine just as she did when he bombed hospitals in Syria.

Speaking of Syria. Remember the "Slaughter in Syria"?

They didn't even have to have a production budget for that one. All they had to do was steal an old video from a small youtube channel.

OPPS!

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There is nothing she can say about anything she perceives to be immoral ever again. This is who I have said she is since I first posted at firefly fans. Again, I and others like G have told all posting here for years this is who she is. And man oh man were we correct. What a piece of shit she is.

All Sigs has done so far is proven she has some critical thinking skills and she's not a fucking muppet like you.

How many times are you going to keep falling for this shit, Ted?

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Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

THG

Monday, March 14, 2022 10:19 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by CAPTAINCRUNCH:
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:

Oh my god, I used the incorrect spelling of a word that is pronounced the same as another word meaning something else. What shall I do what shall I do? Too funny…

It looks as though the Putins are being run out of town. I told you so...

The oceans of stupid that she posts - amazing. Retirement is driving her battier than usual.

It’s the same with Jack. He is defending Putin as well. And my god he has no idea how stupid he looks as he posts against, all the posts about what Putin is doing. The guy is living on another planet.

T

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, March 14, 2022 10:21 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
It’s the same with Jack. He is defending Putin as well. And my god he has no idea how stupid he looks as he posts against, all the posts about what Putin is doing. The guy is living on another planet.

I've never once defended Putin.

All I've done is called out our Lying Legacy Media lying again, and told you idiots who keep buying the lies over and over and over and over again that you are idiots.

The only reason that things seem to continue to get worse in the world is because there are just so many of you. So, so many... They wouldn't be able to get away with the constant lying if everyone on the planet was intelligent.

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Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

THG

Monday, March 14, 2022 11:09 PM

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IMF chief expects "deep recession" in Russia due to sanctions

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, March 14, 2022 11:12 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
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IMF chief expects "deep recession" in Russia due to sanctions

Normal people who have nothing to do with this will starve and die.

And you love it.

I hope you never have to go through circumstances like this which are completely out of your control.

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Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

THG

Tuesday, March 15, 2022 3:03 AM

They haven't become, they always have been a terrorist force.

T

Adm. Stavridis: Russia’s Military Has Become ‘A Terrorist Force’

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, March 15, 2022 5:44 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
They haven't become, they always have been a terrorist force.

Much like the word Nazi, the word Terrorist has lost any meaning it once had, Ted.

January 6th hoax = Terrorists. Peaceful Canadian truckers = Terrorists. Concerned Parents not happy with CRT being taught in school = Terrorists.

When everybody's a terrorist, nobody is a terrorist.

Keep eating shit Ted.

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Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

THG

Tuesday, March 15, 2022 6:19 AM

This is just way too funny. Hey signym, I told you so...

T

Protesters occupy mansion suspected of belonging to Russian oligarch

THG

Tuesday, March 15, 2022 6:30 AM

Oh no sig, Russia can't get it done. I told you so. They are the army that can't shoot straight. Ater years of hearing your and kiki's bullshit about how good they are.

Comrade, can you see me laughing. Because I am.

T

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, March 15, 2022 8:49 AM

Get some help Ted.

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Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

SECOND

Tuesday, March 15, 2022 11:04 PM

Can Germany Break Up With Russian Gas?
March 15, 2022, 12:35 p.m. ET

Germany is one of the world’s great trading nations. In 2019, it imported $1.2 trillion worth of goods from all over the world. Only about 2 percent of that total came from Russia. In fact, the Russian Federation, with roughly 144 million people, was only slightly more important in German trade than Ireland, with around five million people. Ordinarily, then, you wouldn’t expect a disruption of economic relations with Russia to have a big effect on the German economy.

Unfortunately, Russia is a key supplier of one good Germany will find it hard to replace: natural gas. Nearly all of Germany’s natural gas consumption is imported via pipelines, and about 55 percent of its gas comes from Russia.

This situation should never have been allowed to happen; successive U.S. administrations going all the way back to that of Ronald Reagan have warned Germany not to let itself become so dependent on a despotic regime. (I witnessed some of those discussions during my own brief stint in government, in 1982-83.) But here we are. And while democratic nations have imposed a wide range of economic sanctions on the Putin regime, restrictions on Russian gas sales remain conspicuously absent from the list.

Yet Russian atrocities — and, to be honest, the surprising incompetence of Russia’s vaunted military, as the expected blitzkrieg enters its 20th day of apparent stalemate — have been rapidly changing the political calculus of the West’s response. Three weeks ago, it seemed inconceivable that German politicians would be willing to impose any significant pain on their voters in response to Vladimir Putin’s aggression. Now there are serious discussions underway about whether and to what extent Germany can wean itself from Russian gas.

A small reduction in gas consumption shouldn’t be hard to achieve. Precisely because gas has been cheap, some of it is currently being burned in low-priority ways, easily discouraged with moderately higher prices and/or modest regulation. Large reductions, however, are another matter.

Put it this way: An important new study by a group of German economists (there are nine authors, so I’ll just refer to it as Bachmann et al.) estimates that eliminating gas imports from Russia would require cutting gas consumption by about 30 percent, to around 600 terawatt-hours from around 900 TWh. Why not 55 percent, the Russian share of German gas? Because Germany can probably get somewhat more gas from other sources and limit the use of gas for electricity generation by relying more on coal and nuclear power. (Yes, coal must be phased out to save us from climate catastrophe — but not in the middle of a war. It’s the St. Augustine principle: “Make me chaste, but not yet.”)
https://web.archive.org/web/20220313040409/https://www.econtribute.de/
RePEc/ajk/ajkpbs/ECONtribute_PB_028_2022.pdf

Even a 30 percent fall in consumption will, however, be hard to achieve on short notice. Cutting consumption from 900 to 800 TWh might not be that costly; the reduction from, say, 700 to 600 TWh would be a lot more painful.

The German economists focus on a key economic concept called the elasticity of substitution — roughly speaking, how much demand for natural gas falls off for every 1 percent rise in its price. If that elasticity is low, the amount Germans would be willing to pay for an extra bit of gas once consumption has already been substantially reduced is large, implying that the economic cost of further reductions is also large.

Unfortunately, empirical estimates suggest that the elasticity of substitution for natural gas is low, at least in the short run. It’s not zero: Given high gas prices, households will turn down their thermostats, consumers will stop buying goods whose production requires burning a lot of natural gas, and so on. Still, the best guess is that we’re talking about an elasticity of around 0.18, which in turn means (if I’m doing the arithmetic right) that the price of natural gas would have to rise by around 600 percent to c

THG

Wednesday, March 16, 2022 12:44 AM

You know SECOND based on Signyms posts listing all the things that are wrong with living in America and how fucked up it is, we can say without a doubt she would not live five minutes in a country run by Putin. She’s not kidding anybody.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, March 16, 2022 12:48 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:

You know SECOND based on Signyms posts listing all the things that are wrong with living in America and how fucked up it is, we can say without a doubt she would not live five minutes in a country run by Putin. She’s not kidding anybody.

You seem to be barely scraping along yourself right now.

I do hope you have somebody looking after you.

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Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

THG

Wednesday, March 16, 2022 1:55 AM

Russians Fight Over Food in Grocery Store As Sanctions Lead To Empty Shelves

A video that appears to show Russian citizens fighting for groceries amid empty shelves has gone viral on social media.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russians-fight-over-food-in-groce
ry-store-as-sanctions-lead-to-empty-shelves/ar-AAV5oVW?ocid=msedgntp

I'm not a fan of Newsweek but if this is for sure I gotta say, I told you so signym. I told you so. The video can be found by following the link.

T

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, March 16, 2022 4:10 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Thg:
Russians Fight Over Food in Grocery Store As Sanctions Lead To Empty Shelves

A video that appears to show Russian citizens fighting for groceries amid empty shelves has gone viral on social media.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russians-fight-over-food-in-groce
ry-store-as-sanctions-lead-to-empty-shelves/ar-AAV5oVW?ocid=msedgntp

I'm not a fan of Newsweek but if this is for sure I gotta say, I told you so signym. I told you so. The video us can be found by following the link.

T

Ted LOVES him some people he doesn't agree with starving.

I TOLD YOU SO, Ted.

You are a waste of carbon.

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Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

THG

Friday, March 18, 2022 7:29 AM

House Votes to Suspend Normal Trade Relations With Russia

WASHINGTON — The House voted overwhelmingly on Thursday to strip Russia of its preferential trade status with the United States, moving to further penalize the country’s economy in response to the invasion of Ukraine.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/house-votes-to-suspend-normal-
trade-relations-with-russia/ar-AAVcCo3?ocid=msedgntp

T

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, March 18, 2022 7:32 AM

More Russian civilians starving to death at your hands.

You must be so pleased with yourself, Ted.

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Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

SECOND

Friday, March 18, 2022 7:54 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
More Russian civilians starving to death at your hands.

You must be so pleased with yourself, Ted.

1) Putin said that Ukraines starved themselves to death. He claimed it had nothing to do with Russia.
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/vladimir-putins-war
-to-crush-ukraine-is-part-of-a-long-kremlin-tradition/

2) People who are not Putin say Russia did starve Ukraine:

How Joseph Stalin Starved Millions in the Ukrainian Famine – Cruel efforts under Stalin to impose collectivism and tamp down Ukrainian nationalism left an estimated 3.9 million dead.

At the height of the 1932-33 Ukrainian famine under Joseph Stalin, starving people roamed the countryside, desperate for something, anything to eat. In the village of Stavyshche, a young peasant boy watched as the wanderers dug into empty gardens with their bare hands. Many were so emaciated, he recalled, that their bodies began to swell and stink from the extreme lack of nutrients.

"You could see them walking about, just walking and walking, and one would drop, and then another, and so on it went," he said many years later, in a case history collected in the late 1980s by a Congressional commission. In the cemetery outside the village hospital, overwhelmed doctors carried the bodies on stretchers and tossed them into an enormous pit.
https://www.history.com/news/ukrainian-famine-stalin

3) Russians are NOT starving. It is less dramatic: "There were empty shelves. There was no salt, no sugar, no pasta, no buckwheat, rice was expensive," Anna said (via Google Translate). "So people saw a cart of sugar, put it out, and ran after it. They just jumped on this cart. Everyone began to push aggressively."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russians-fight-over-food-in-groce
ry-store-as-sanctions-lead-to-empty-shelves/ar-AAV5oVW

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

THG

Friday, March 18, 2022 10:05 PM

Oligarchs and other wealthy Russians have stashed up to $214 billion in secretive Swiss bank accounts, leading trade group reveals

Swiss banks hold as much as $214 billion in Russian money, the top Swiss banking association said. The disclosure to Reuters, by the Swiss Bankers Association, is unusual given Swiss banking secrecy.

Switzerland recently departed from its historically neutral status to sanction Russia over Ukraine. Who's going to rebuild Russia?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/oligarchs-and-other-wealthy-ru
ssians-have-stashed-up-to-214-billion-in-secretive-swiss-bank-accounts-leading-trade-group-reveals/ar-AAVdwMY?ocid=msedgntp

Fan fucking tastic. They didn't see this coming when they invaded. We'll use it in the rebuilding of Ukraine.

T

THG

Friday, March 18, 2022 10:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

THUGR believes the M$M bc it tells him what he wants to hear. "Critical thinking" is a foreign concept.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

I'm no longer wondering how long Ukraine can hold out because it is obvious, they are going to win. No, now I am wondering how long Putin will survive. I told you so signym.

tick tock

T

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, March 19, 2022 12:55 AM

You sound so sure of yourself, Ted.

Meanwhile, in the Real World, there's scant evidence that a war is even going on.

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Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

THG

Sunday, March 20, 2022 1:52 AM

EU Officials Mull Using Sanctioned Russians’ Assets for Ukraine

(Bloomberg) -- European Union officials are discussing the possibility of using the assets of sanctioned Russian tycoons to help fund Ukraine’s war recovery efforts, according to three people familiar with the matter.

Told you so Signym. I called it.

T

SECOND

Sunday, March 20, 2022 5:29 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You sound so sure of yourself, Ted.

Meanwhile, in the Real World, there's scant evidence that a war is even going on.

More than two dozen Senate Republicans demand Biden do more for Ukraine after voting against doing more for Ukraine

More than two dozen Senate Republicans are demanding that President Biden do more to aid war-torn Ukraine and arm its forces against Russia’s brutal assault, after voting last week against $13.6 billion in military and humanitarian assistance for Ukraine.

Consider Sen. Rick Scott (R-Fla.), who heard Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s emotional plea in a virtual address to Congress on Wednesday for more weapons and a no-fly zone over Ukraine:

“President Biden needs to make a decision TODAY: either give Ukraine access to the planes and antiaircraft defense systems it needs to defend itself, or enforce a no-fly zone to close Ukrainian skies to Russian attacks,” Scott said in a statement. “If President Biden does not do this NOW, President Biden will show himself to be absolutely heartless and ignorant of the deaths of innocent Ukrainian children and families.”

Last week, Scott was one of 31 Republicans to vote against.

More at https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/17/republicans-ukraine
-aid-vote/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

THG

Sunday, March 20, 2022 6:03 AM

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, March 20, 2022 7:03 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You sound so sure of yourself, Ted.

Meanwhile, in the Real World, there's scant evidence that a war is even going on.
More than two dozen Senate Republicans demand Biden do more for Ukraine after voting against doing more for Ukraine

More than two dozen Senate Republicans are demanding that President Biden do more to aid war-torn Ukraine and arm its forces against Russia’s brutal assault, after voting last week against $13.6 billion in military and humanitarian assistance for Ukraine.

That's evidence of Nothing.

Fuck those lying Republicans.

I've been telling you for YEARS that I'm not a Republican.

Stick around long enough and you're going to learn two things:

1. When the social pendulum swings back to the center and starts making its wild ride up the Right side, I'm going to have a LOT to say about it.

2. You'll get to see how somebody with an actual cornerstone in their ideological beliefs doesn't waver an inch when the winds of change are upon them.

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Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

SECOND

Sunday, March 20, 2022 7:12 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

That's evidence of Nothing.

Fuck those lying Republicans.

I've been telling you for YEARS that I'm not a Republican.

Stick around long enough and you're going to learn two things:

1. When the social pendulum swings back to the center and starts making its wild ride up the Right side, I'm going to have a LOT to say about it.

2. You'll get to see how somebody with an actual cornerstone in their ideological beliefs doesn't waver an inch when the winds of change are upon them.

If the MSM is for President Zelenskyy, you gotta be against. If the MSM is against Trump, you gotta be for. See the pattern?

6ix, you are a contrarian. Neither Democrat nor Republican. You have various antipathies. What’s a key reason why 6ix likes Trump? Because the mainstream media doesn’t. When would 6ix boo Trump? When he conforms to what the establishment wants, including by getting a COVID-vaccine booster.

If you spend any time watching Tucker Carlson or following the rhetoric of popular far-right voices, such as Candace Owens or Marjorie Taylor Greene, you’ll see a consistent theme — they’ll find what they call “the narrative” (another word for the perceived conventional wisdom in the media or in the political establishment) and simply argue the opposite.

We saw the pattern throughout the pandemic. “The narrative” was that COVID was serious, and so right-wing figures minimized the virus, claiming that it was like the common cold, or that it was merely the flu, or that it would claim only 500 or 5,000 lives.

“The narrative” claimed that masks could help limit the spread of the disease, so far-right figures mocked masks, sometimes even referring to them as “face diapers.”

Then as the narrative moved to full-throated support for vaccines, the same cohort held back. If “they” want me to take a vaccine, then something must be wrong.

Don’t mistake contrarianism for critical thinking. A true critical thinker holds all sides accountable for their mistakes. Those who underplayed the COVID threat would be rejected just as decisively (if not more, given the staggering toll in lives) as those who overplayed it. Those who said there were no contacts between Russians and the Trump campaign would be rejected just as decisively as those who said there was active collusion with the Russian government.

The critical thinker is universally skeptical. The contrarian commits two errors — he’s both excessively cynical and excessively credulous. He’s too quick to disbelieve one side and too quick to believe the opposite. For example, he’ll reject an avalanche of evidence of the safety and effectiveness of a vaccine while jumping quickly on fad treatments, like hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin. He’ll reject overwhelming proof that the January 6 insurrection was a Trumpist attack on the Capitol and respond immediately to speculation that the FBI or antifa instigated the riot.

The same people who were catastrophically wrong about the severity of COVID or the effectiveness of vaccines continue to enjoy an audience from the same people who demand rigorous and merciless accountability from their political opponents.

The pattern holds true across multiple fronts. The contrarians still love the voices who spread absurd misinformation about the 2020 election, in part because the rest of the media rejects them. And what does the Russian invasion teach us about the right? It’s that a similar percentage will resist “the narrative” even when the reality and the morality of the moment could not be more clear.

More at https://newsletters.theatlantic.com/the-third-rail/6234aa276c908600205
16e75/republican-conspiracy-russia-ukraine/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, March 20, 2022 7:59 PM

Your opinion changes every five minutes, Second. You have no ideological cornerstone and nothing but a million little contradictory flickers of ideas flitting in and out of existence inside that little brain of yours like fireflies that are brought out when you want to make an argument, and then blinked right back out of existence and forgotten about just in time to make your next hypocritical argument in another thread.

Every single post post you have ever made in these boards directly contradicts another post you've made. Some of them do it mere moments apart from each other.

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Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

SECOND

Sunday, March 20, 2022 8:41 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Your opinion changes every five minutes, Second. You have no ideological cornerstone and nothing but a million little contradictory flickers of ideas flitting in and out of existence inside that little brain of yours like fireflies that are brought out when you want to make an argument, and then blinked right back out of existence and forgotten about just in time to make your next hypocritical argument in another thread.

Every single post post you have ever made in these boards directly contradicts another post you've made. Some of them do it mere moments apart from each other.

6ix, you are like some random stranger in an elevator with me saying, "First you pushed the up button, second. The next time I see you, you pushed the down button. You are totally inconsistent." 6ix, you are definitely a contrarian and I am getting off this elevator with you and out of the building.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, March 20, 2022 8:52 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Your opinion changes every five minutes, Second. You have no ideological cornerstone and nothing but a million little contradictory flickers of ideas flitting in and out of existence inside that little brain of yours like fireflies that are brought out when you want to make an argument, and then blinked right back out of existence and forgotten about just in time to make your next hypocritical argument in another thread.

Every single post post you have ever made in these boards directly contradicts another post you've made. Some of them do it mere moments apart from each other.
6ix, you are like some random stranger in an elevator with me saying, "First you pushed the up button, second. The next time I see you, you pushed the down button. You are totally inconsistent." 6ix, you are definitely a contrarian and I am getting off this elevator with you and out of the building.

Good. I have no desire to discuss anything further with you ever. Do us both a favor and ignore me like Ted does.

Quote:
To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which canceled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them… To forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again… that was the ultimate subtlety.

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Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

THG

Tuesday, March 22, 2022 12:22 AM

Russia Suffers Blow as Germany Strikes Natural Gas Deal With Qatar

Germany said Sunday that it had reached a deal on an energy partnership with Qatar, as the European powerhouse seeks to reduce its dependence on Russia amid the invasion of Ukraine.

Last month, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz announced the nation would stop the certification of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline after Russian President Vladimir Putin said Moscow would recognize the sovereignty of self-proclaimed "people's republics" of Donetsk and Luhansk in Ukraine—a step Putin took just before he invaded Ukraine.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-suffers-blow-as-germany-st
rikes-natural-gas-deal-with-qatar/ar-AAVitpC?ocid=msedgntp

Good news...

T

SECOND

Wednesday, March 23, 2022 5:34 PM

A campaign to force Vladimir Putin’s reported lover out of her luxury villa in Switzerland

A petition has been launched for the Swiss to deport former gymnast Alina Kabaeva, 38, describing her as an ‘accomplice of his regime’. Kabaeva, who received Russia’s highest state decoration from the president after winning an Olympic gold medal in 2004, is thought to have had four children with the 69-year-old. Kabaeva's children are Swiss citizens.

The traditionally neutral country, a favourite bolt-hole of the Russian elite, unexpectedly signed up to international sanctions against the Kremlin earlier this month.

As a Russian MP from 2007 to 2014, Kabaeva backed laws banning the adoption of Russian orphans in the US, said to have contributed to the deaths of a number of children who needed complex medical care.

She also voted for so-called ‘gay propaganda laws’ effectively banning public discussion or displays of LGBT relationships that could be seen by children.

Her current job as chair of the board of directors at National Media Group, a Kremlin-backing TV and newspaper giant, reportedly earns her £8 million a year.

Kabaeva left Russia when the Ukraine invasion began and has been staying in a ‘luxury and very private’ chalet in a remote part of Switzerland, according to various reports.

Putin revealed too much: ‘I have a private life in which I do not permit interference. It must be respected. I have always reacted negatively to those who with their snotty noses and erotic fantasies prowl into others’ lives.’

https://metro.co.uk/2022/03/22/alina-kabaeva-petition-launched-for-swi
ss-to-deport-putins-lover-16318574/

Alina Kabaeva https://www.google.com/search?q=Alina+Kabaeva

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

SIGNYM

Wednesday, March 23, 2022 5:38 PM

Hey!
I know!
Let's ban Russian cats and dogs!
THAT'LL show the world how effective we are!
/snicker

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

JAYNEZTOWN

Wednesday, March 23, 2022 7:07 PM

What does Hindu India think?

What They Want: Allies Meet In Europe For Ukraine Summits
https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/russia-ukraine-crisis/what-th
ey-want-allies-meet-in-europe-for-ukraine-summits-articleshow.html

Ukraine: Torn between West and Russia
https://www.wionews.com/photos/ukraine-torn-between-west-and-russia-45
7408

Arnab Goswami Opinion
https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/russia-ukraine-crisis/why-doe
s-america-love-the-russia-ukraine-war-arnab-goswami-cuts-to-the-chase-articleshow.html

Quote from another thread

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM: If you look at a map of the world and who is sanctioning Russia v who is not, the sanctioners are a tiny portion in a sea of nations that still trade with Russia.

Map taken from the 'batshit crazy' debate

SECOND

Wednesday, March 23, 2022 8:29 PM

How Russia and Right-Wing Americans Converged on War in Ukraine

Some conservatives have echoed the Kremlin’s misleading claims about the war and vice versa, giving each other’s assertions a sheen of credibility.

After President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia claimed that action against Ukraine was taken in self-defense, the Fox News host Tucker Carlson and the conservative commentator Candace Owens repeated the assertion. When Mr. Putin insisted he was trying to “denazify” Ukraine, Joe Oltmann, a far-right podcaster, and Lara Logan, another right-wing commentator, mirrored the idea.

The echoing went the other way, too. Some far-right American news sites, like Infowars, stoked a longtime, unfounded Russian claim that the United States funded biological weapons labs in Ukraine. Russian officials seized on the chatter, with the Kremlin contending it had documentation of bioweapons programs that justified its “special military operation” in Ukraine.

As war has raged, the Kremlin’s talking points and some right-wing discourse in the United States — fueled by those on the far right — have coalesced. On social media, podcasts and television, falsehoods about the invasion of Ukraine have flowed both ways, with Americans amplifying lies from Russians and the Kremlin spreading fabrications that festered in American forums online.

By reinforcing and feeding each other’s messaging, some right-wing Americans have given credibility to Russia’s assertions and vice versa. Together, they have created an alternate reality, recasting the Western bloc of allies as provokers, blunderers and liars, which has bolstered Mr. Putin.

The war initially threw some conservatives — who had insisted no invasion would happen — for a loop. Many criticized Mr. Putin and Russia’s assault on Ukraine. Some have since gone on to urge more support for Ukraine.

But in recent days, several far-right commentators have again gravitated to narratives favorable to Mr. Putin’s cause. The main one has been the bioweapons conspiracy theory, which has provided a way to talk about the war while focusing criticism on President Biden and the U.S. government instead of Mr. Putin and the Kremlin.

“People are asking if the far right in the U.S. is influencing Russia or if Russia is influencing the far right, but the truth is they are influencing each other,” said Thomas Rid, a professor at Johns Hopkins University who studies Russian information warfare. “They are pushing the same narratives.”

“It serves them, and Russia, to muddy the waters and confuse Americans.”

More at https://web.archive.org/web/20220323102544/https://www.nytimes.com/202
2/03/23/technology/russia-american-far-right-ukraine.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

THG

Friday, March 25, 2022 5:27 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Why the enormous scale of financial pain being inflicted on Russia worries some in the West

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/why-the-enormous-scale-of-fina
ncial-pain-being-inflicted-on-russia-worries-some-in-the-west/ar-AAUxvE4?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

These sanctions are going to last long after they are lifted. Russia will never be the same. Most who will suffer have nothing to do with Putins' decisions yet without sanctions of this magnitude war is the only option left. It may come to that yet. Putin cannot be allowed to march through Europe. There are no winners here. Only those who will suffer because a mad man is running Russia.

T

Anonymous claims hack on Russia’s Central Bank and will ‘release secret agreements in 48 hours’

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/anonymous-claims-hack-on-russia-s
-central-bank-and-will-release-secret-agreements-in-48-hours/ar-AAVshrn?ocid=msedgntp

I'm all a tingle.

T

THG

Friday, March 25, 2022 6:01 AM

Russia's days as an energy superpower are coming to an end

In a matter of weeks, the war in Ukraine has upended an energy relationship between Europe and Russia that goes back decades. Europe understands that it cannot sever ties with Russia overnight, as it still needs Russian energy. But Russia's role in the European and global energy system has been shaken. This is a profound shift that will mark the end of Russia as an energy superpower.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/opinion-russia-s-days-as-an-energ
y-superpower-are-coming-to-an-end/ar-AAVs74S?ocid=msedgntp

T

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, March 25, 2022 6:12 AM

Opinion.

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Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, March 25, 2022 6:13 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
I'm all a tingle.

We know dude. You've been showing off your sad little 1" war boner for weeks now.

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Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

SIGNYM

Friday, March 25, 2022 8:56 AM

Quote:
Biden Casually Says Food Shortage "Going To Be Real" As Necessary "Price" Of Anti-Russia Sanctions

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nato-issues-full-statement-layi
ng-out-defense-readiness-against-russia-calls-out-china

Food shortages!
Rampant inflation!
High fuel prices!

Because... bullshit!

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, March 25, 2022 9:31 AM

And thus Joe Biden* continued his longstanding tradition of telling the American people that they were fucked and that they should go get fucked.

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Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

SECOND

Saturday, March 26, 2022 12:55 AM

The IRS got $0 to enforce its crackdown on Russian oligarchs because the GOP blocked the funding.

Enforcement against U.S. billionaires cheating taxes is also down 25% this decade.

So much for "tough on crime." Better not steal gum from a store though.

IRS unit gets no funding to enforce sanctions against Russian oligarchs

The White House request to give the IRS $30 million for tracing financial activities associated with sanctioned people appeared to run afoul of broader reluctance by Republicans to put more money into IRS enforcement actions.

The workforce of the investigations unit has shrunk by 25% over the course of the last decade, according to Treasury.

The unit “is in desperate need of stable, long-term funding to develop a deeper understanding of the global financial landscape and trace and seize assets that today are in the hands of criminals,” Treasury said in a statement last week.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/irs-unit-gets-no-funding-to-enforce-
sanctions-against-russian-oligarchs-01648076777

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

THG

Saturday, March 26, 2022 1:19 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:

Quote:
Biden Casually Says Food Shortage "Going To Be Real" As Necessary "Price" Of Anti-Russia Sanctions

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nato-issues-full-statement-layi
ng-out-defense-readiness-against-russia-calls-out-china

Food shortages!
Rampant inflation!
High fuel prices!

Because... bullshit!

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

Yeah you just keep talking shit comrade it's what you're good at.

In the meantime. Russia is changing its game plan. They are saying they have accomplished thier goals of de-nazifying Ukraine and destroying its military. They will now concentrate on the Donbas area.

How fucking funny is this shit comrade.

T

THG

Saturday, March 26, 2022 4:57 AM

T

Special report: The financial battle taking place over Ukraine and Russia

THG

Tuesday, March 29, 2022 3:58 AM

T

Sanctions Expert: New Sanctions Tightening ‘The Screws On Russia’s Economy’

SIGNYM

Sunday, April 3, 2022 5:00 PM

Just waie until those sanctions boomerang back on us. And that won't be as bad as what happens to the EU. Looks like Biden* is ready to fight to the last Ukrainian/ German/ Pole/ Estonian. Other nations will refuse to go along.

I personally think the EU is going to fracture over this in 7 years, and that the Green Party - and other rabidly pro-war parties- are going to suffer permanent defeat, never to rise again.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

SECOND

Sunday, April 3, 2022 6:04 PM

The Curious Case of the Recovering Ruble

One thing Russia has managed to defend quite effectively is the value of its currency. The ruble plunged in the days after the Ukraine invasion, but it has since recovered almost all of its losses. How did that happen, and what does it mean?

Elvira Nabiullina, the governor of Russia’s central bank — a role equivalent to that of Jerome Powell at the Federal Reserve — is especially well regarded by her peers abroad.

Nabiullina and her colleagues pulled out all the stops to defend the ruble. They raised the key interest rate — more or less equivalent to the federal funds rate in the United States — from 9.5 to 20 percent, to induce people to keep their funds in Russia. They also imposed extensive controls to prevent capital flight: Russians have faced restrictions on moving their money into their foreign bank accounts, and foreign investors have been prohibited from exiting Russian stocks, and more.

Russia has imposed severe capital controls, but it has also sacrificed monetary independence, drastically raising interest rates in the face of a looming recession.

My guess is that the value of the ruble has become a crucial target not so much because it’s all important but because it’s so clearly visible.

Suppose that, as seems highly likely, Russia sees a huge surge in inflation and a plunge in gross domestic product in the months ahead. Will Putin’s government admit that these bad things are happening? Quite possibly not. Authoritarian regimes often try to suppress unfavorable economic data. Recently, for example, Turkey’s president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, responded to reports of high inflation by sacking the head of his nation’s statistical agency.

Some years ago researchers at M.I.T. created the Billion Prices Project using online price data to specifically track the consistent understatement of inflation by Argentina’s government at the time. The same approach also turned out to be very useful in the United States for the opposite reason — as a way to refute claims by right-wing “inflation truthers” that the Obama administration was cooking the books (it wasn’t).

If Russia’s economy deteriorates as badly as most expect in the near future, it seems all too likely that the nation’s muzzled media will simply deny that anything bad is happening. One thing they couldn’t deny, however, would be a drastically depreciated ruble. So defending the ruble, never mind the real economy, makes sense as a propaganda strategy.

A further thought: Among the people who might not be aware of deteriorating Russian economic conditions, as long as the ruble holds its value, might be Vladimir Putin himself. U.S. intelligence claims that Putin’s military advisers have been afraid to tell him how badly the war is going. Is there any reason to believe that his economic advisers will be any more courageous?

So Russia’s defense of the ruble, while impressive, isn’t a sign that the Putin regime is handling economic policy well. It reflects, instead, an odd choice of priorities, and may actually be a further sign of Russia’s policy dysfunction.

More at https://web.archive.org/web/20220403012908/https://www.nytimes.com/202
2/04/01/opinion/russia-ruble-economy.html

https://www.google.com/search?q=exchange+rate+dollar+to+ruble

https://www.google.com/search?q=exchange+rate+euro+to+ruble

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Sunday, April 3, 2022 7:45 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Just waie until those sanctions boomerang back on us. And that won't be as bad as what happens to the EU. Looks like Biden* is ready to fight to the last Ukrainian/ German/ Pole/ Estonian. Other nations will refuse to go along.

I personally think the EU is going to fracture over this in 7 years, and that the Green Party - and other rabidly pro-war parties- are going to suffer permanent defeat, never to rise again.

File under: "SIGNYM's Dream scenario"

"I personally think the EU is going to fracture over this in 7 years"
Why 7 years? Q-Anon info?

How will those sanctions "boomerang back on us?" Pls explain.

I need some clarity on how Biden is forcing these countries Ukrainian/ German/ Pole/ Estonian to do anything against their will - can you explain that too?

"...and that the Green Party..."

Who?

"...and other rabidly pro-war parties- are going to suffer permanent defeat, never to rise again."

So dramatic! So, emotional!

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, April 3, 2022 8:02 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:

I need some clarity on how Biden is forcing these countries Ukrainian/ German/ Pole/ Estonian to do anything against their will - can you explain that too?

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Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

SECOND

Sunday, April 3, 2022 8:15 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:

How will those sanctions "boomerang back on us?" Pls explain.

So dramatic! So, emotional!

Signym is repeating Kremlin talking points. “We must thank the Europeans for their agricultural sanctions. Well done. Thank you for all your sanctions,” Putin proclaimed on Oct. 21, 2021. First, they believe that sanctions harm the West more than they damage Russia. According to the Russian government’s newspaper, Rossiyskaya Gazeta, the EU, U.S., Australia, Norway and Canada lost up to $8.6 billion a year because of the sanctions war. By 2019, the EU alone lost $240 billion from the sanctions war, almost five times more than Russia did, Putin bragged.
https://thehill.com/opinion/international/595776-western-sanctions-don
t-harm-putin-they-strengthen-him/

The advise giving in 2021: If the U.S. and its allies are serious about confronting Russia, the focus should be on limiting Russia’s ability to earn money from exports — first and foremost, from oil and gas. Sanctions should target Russia’s status and prestige, something Russians care deeply about. Symbolic measures, such as excluding Russia from international sport competitions or cultural events, would do more to harm’s Putin’s domestic popularity than limiting access to technology on target banks. More than anything else, Russia and Russians seek recognition and status. Thus, the West should hit where it really hurts.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

SECOND

Sunday, April 3, 2022 8:27 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:

I need some clarity on how Biden is forcing these countries Ukrainian/ German/ Pole/ Estonian to do anything against their will - can you explain that too?

http://www. youtube. com/watch?v=PO9L6_ykyao

Trump claims that Joe Biden strong-armed the Ukrainian government to fire its top prosecutor in order to thwart an investigation into a company tied to his son, Hunter Biden.

But Viktor Shokin was ousted for the opposite reason Trump and his allies claim.

It wasn't because Shokin was investigating a natural gas company tied to Biden's son; it was because Shokin wasn't pursuing corruption among the country's politicians, according to a Ukrainian official and four former American officials who specialized in Ukraine and Europe.

Shokin's inaction prompted international calls for his ouster and ultimately resulted in his removal by Ukraine's parliament.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/10/03/what-really-ha
ppened-when-biden-forced-out-ukraines-top-prosecutor/3785620002/

6ix, you should know the rest of that story: Without pressure from Joe Biden, European diplomats, the International Monetary Fund and other international organizations, Shokin would not have been fired, said Daria Kaleniuk, co-founder and executive director of the Anti Corruption Action Centre in Kiev.

"Civil society organizations in Ukraine were pressing for his resignation," Kaleniuk said, "but no one would have cared if there had not been voices from outside this country calling on him to go."

In a July phone call, Trump asked the president of Ukraine to investigate Biden's actions. That prompted a whistleblower to accuse Trump of asking a foreign government to interfere in the 2020 presidential election, which is now the subject of an impeachment inquiry.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Sunday, April 3, 2022 11:42 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:

How will those sanctions "boomerang back on us?" Pls explain.

So dramatic! So, emotional!
Signym is repeating Kremlin talking points. “We must thank the Europeans for their agricultural sanctions. Well done. Thank you for all your sanctions,” Putin proclaimed on Oct. 21, 2021. First, they believe that sanctions harm the West more than they damage Russia. According to the Russian government’s newspaper, Rossiyskaya Gazeta, the EU, U.S., Australia, Norway and Canada lost up to $8.6 billion a year because of the sanctions war. By 2019, the EU alone lost $240 billion from the sanctions war, almost five times more than Russia did, Putin bragged.
https://thehill.com/opinion/international/595776-western-sanctions-don
t-harm-putin-they-strengthen-him/

The advise giving in 2021: If the U.S. and its allies are serious about confronting Russia, the focus should be on limiting Russia’s ability to earn money from exports — first and foremost, from oil and gas. Sanctions should target Russia’s status and prestige, something Russians care deeply about. Symbolic measures, such as excluding Russia from international sport competitions or cultural events, would do more to harm’s Putin’s domestic popularity than limiting access to technology on target banks. More than anything else, Russia and Russians seek recognition and status. Thus, the West should hit where it really hurts.

I notice that we always get Kremlin "talking points" (propaganda) from SIGGY about 24 hours before they make their way to MSM. Most recent SIGGY spoiler: "Russia is repositioning their troops to focus on the East, which they wanted to do in the first place." Next day I'm hearing that on the news. Timing is telling.

I have faith that the US and EU allies are doing, or are going to do, everything they can to punish Putin.

SIGNYM

Monday, April 4, 2022 2:26 AM

How the sanctions will boomerang back on us:

Quote:
German Retailers To Increase Food Prices By 20-50% On Monday

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/german-retailers-increase-food-price
s-20-50-monday. Russia is a key exporter of energy and wheat to the world, and a major exporter of strategic metals, fertilizer and other necessities.

Economies simply can't run without gas, oil, and food. The USA will experience price increases bc we will be competing in the world market for basics (and American producers, as SECOND so kindly pointed out, will raise prices accordingly), but the EU is critically dependent on Russia for gas and oil. Interruption will halt production. Another nation critically dependent on Russia is Japan.

Where Biden* shot America in the face is making U$D a risky place to park money. Sanctioning the central bank of a major economy is causing other nations to think twice about keeping U$D assets (necessarily in USA banks) and Russia, China, central Asian nations, and India are working hard to de-dollarize their mutual trade. De-dollarization is not a new phenomenon, but USA sanctions on Russian banks accelerated the trend and brought together a number of nations that wouldn't have otherwise collaborated on a common project by creating a common enemy (us).

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

SIGNYM

Monday, April 4, 2022 2:56 AM

Quote:
CAPON:
I notice that we always get Kremlin "talking points" (propaganda) from SIGGY about 24 hours before they make their way to MSM. Most recent SIGGY spoiler: "Russia is repositioning their troops to focus on the East, which they wanted to do in the first place." Next day I'm hearing that on the news. Timing is telling.

I have faith that the US and EU allies are doing, or are going to do, everything they can to punish Putin.

A) Maybe if you paid attention to OTHER THAN M$M you would be ahead of the news curve! The Duran, The Saker, Zerohedge are available. Don't confuse your ignorance for my brilliance.

B) I never said that Russia is NOW focusing on the east. I have been posting that Russia (and Chechens and DPR and LPR forces) have ALWAYS focused on the east. Just bc the M$M had a misguided laser focus on Kiev doesn't mean that's where the action was.

C) Your "faith" (belief/religion/delusion) isn't reality-based, it's an ideological addiction. I hope you hit bottom soon and are cured of your addiction.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, April 4, 2022 6:34 AM

Cap'n, Second and Ted have no good news coming out of the Democrat party and they know that the Democrats are going to get destroyed in the November elections, so all they can do is talk about Putin.

Different President*, same old shit.

2020's Democrats are a sad lot.

--------------------------------------------------

Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

SECOND

Monday, April 4, 2022 9:59 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Cap'n, Second and Ted have no good news coming out of the Democrat party and they know that the Democrats are going to get destroyed in the November elections, so all they can do is talk about Putin.

The good news is that Putin lost this war, but he would have already won if Trump was President.

Putin paints the war in Ukraine as a proxy war between Russia and the US, but the invasion is a post-imperial land grab and a global problem.

6ix and Signym aren't acknowledging that things would be different in Ukraine if Trump were president.

If Mike Pence had ignored his Hoosier values of truth, justice and the Constitution and cooperated in overturning the election results, Trump could now be president. Donald Trump is right. If he were still president, the situation would be far different in Ukraine.

There would be no danger of armed conflict between Russia and NATO over Ukraine because there would be no NATO. Trump contended throughout his first term that NATO was outdated. He belittled and insulted leaders of European nations in the alliance. He was reluctant to support the collective-defense agreement known as Article 5. By now in a second term, he would have pulled out of the alliance and scuttled it.

There would be no suggestion from a President Trump that Vladimir Putin is a butcher and must go after Russia invaded Ukraine. Trump praised the “genius” of Putin as Russia amassed troops for the invasion. And he wouldn’t let a little thing like Russia seeking to dominate its neighbor ruin his bromance with Putin. Hey, he pulled out of Syria and let Russia dominate there.

There would be no long, heroic stand by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy. He would have been dead a month ago. Trump holds a grudge. Zelenskyy didn’t announce an investigation of Joe Biden before the election, even when Trump held up needed defensive weapons for Ukraine to force it.

Fervent Trump supporters like Reps. Marjorie Taylor Greene and Madison Cawthorn haven’t forgotten. They call Zelenskyy a “thug” and “corrupt.” Trump, if still president, wouldn’t forget and wouldn’t coordinate massive arms shipments and sanctions to save Zelenskyy and thwart friend Putin.

There would be no Ukraine. Without the United States and a unified NATO providing the help to stall the invasion, Russia would have smashed into Kyiv and disposed of Zelenskyy, still with a terrible toll in Ukraine civilian deaths but with less delay against an outgunned Ukrainian military left without needed weapons.

Trump, though no longer president, still speaks out, claiming that he really won re-election and demonstrating how he would be responding to Putin if still in the White House.

Putin would of course be believed if he announced, “Yes, the Bidens accepted millions in bribes along with that thug Zelenskyy to set up a Nazi government and germ warfare labs in Ukraine.”

Well, U.S. intelligence agencies didn’t believe Putin’s claims that troops on Ukraine’s border weren’t going to invade. They wouldn’t believe he had turned truthful now after a life of lies.

But Trump would believe. He famously declared at a meeting with the Russian leader that he believed the word of Putin over findings of his own intelligence agencies.

If Putin did provide dirt helpful for Trump’s election in 2024, it would pretty much cinch that Trump, if president again, would approve Putin’s conquest of Ukraine and signal no concern over Putin’s desire to return other countries, Poland, Hungary and the Baltics, to their status in the old Soviet Union.

More at https://www.southbendtribune.com/story/opinion/columns/2022/04/03/if-t
rump-were-president-situation-would-different-ukraine/7229103001/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

SIGNYM

Monday, April 4, 2022 10:53 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SECOND, the broken record:

Trump. Trump. TRUMP! trumptrumptrumptrump.
Trump?
Trump!
trumpetytrumptrumptrumptrumpetytrumptrumptrumpetytrump

T.r.u.m.p.
Trump
Trump TRUMP trump
pmurt tuprm mrupt ptrum mprtu muptr....
TRUMP

Everything SECOND posts is irrelevant

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

SECOND

Monday, April 4, 2022 6:03 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
Originally posted by SECOND, the broken record:

Trump. Trump. TRUMP! trumptrumptrumptrump.
Trump?
Trump!
trumpetytrumptrumptrumptrumpetytrumptrumptrumpetytrump

T.r.u.m.p.
Trump
Trump TRUMP trump
pmurt tuprm mrupt ptrum mprtu muptr....
TRUMP

Everything SECOND posts is irrelevant

That was some really shallow analysis, Signym. Did you recognize that Ukraine would have been conquered by now without Biden as President? Trump has been asking Putin for help being reelected, so I'm sure Trump would have not helped Ukraine fight off Putin.

Russians are well deserving punishment inside Ukraine and back in Russia itself for what their country did to Ukraine, but Signym has refused to admit all Russia's moves are war crimes. Signym needs paperwork. Signym needs all the boxes checked on the forms and proper procedures have certified Putin is a criminal and his Russian army is crudely murdering Ukraine's civilians:

In the woods outside Bucha today we met Maria, 80, who hadn't minded the Russian soldiers so much when they turned up at her house. It was only after they withdrew that she found out they had tied up and executed her neighbours.

De-mining experts going into Irpin told us it would take months, if not years, to clear all the regions the Russians had held around Kyiv. These areas might have been liberated, but not one soldier or civilian we met was celebrating. There was just sorrow, and anger.

https://twitter.com/louiseelisabet/status/1510375300714143747

Signym, Putin's self-described de-Nazification of Ukraine isn't what Putin is actually doing.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

SIGNYM

Monday, April 4, 2022 6:23 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SECOND, the broken record:
Trump. Trump. TRUMP! trumptrumptrumptrump.
Trump?
Trump!
trumpetytrumptrumptrumptrumpetytrumptrumptrumpetytrump
T.r.u.m.p.
Trump
Trump TRUMP trump
pmurt tuprm mrupt ptrum mprtu muptr....
TRUMP

SIGNY Everything SECOND posts is irrelevant

SECOND The broken record:That was some really shallow analysis, Signym. Did you recognize that Ukraine would have been conquered by now without Biden as President? Trump has been asking Putin for help being reelected, so I'm sure Trump
trimp
trumptrumptrumptrump
Trump?
TRUMP!
trumeptytumptrumptrump

tee hee

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THG

Monday, April 4, 2022 7:11 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:

Quote:
CAPON:
I notice that we always get Kremlin "talking points" (propaganda) from SIGGY about 24 hours before they make their way to MSM. Most recent SIGGY spoiler: "Russia is repositioning their troops to focus on the East, which they wanted to do in the first place." Next day I'm hearing that on the news. Timing is telling.

I have faith that the US and EU allies are doing, or are going to do, everything they can to punish Putin.

A) Maybe if you paid attention to OTHER THAN M$M you would be ahead of the news curve! The Duran, The Saker, Zerohedge are available. Don't confuse your ignorance for my brilliance.

B) I never said that Russia is NOW focusing on the east. I have been posting that Russia (and Chechens and DPR and LPR forces) have ALWAYS focused on the east. Just bc the M$M had a misguided laser focus on Kiev doesn't mean that's where the action was.

C) Your "faith" (belief/religion/delusion) isn't reality-based, it's an ideological addiction. I hope you hit bottom soon and are cured of your addiction.

Moscow says it didn't do it. The world says it did and is doing it.

T

Tortured and murdered civilians: how Russia’s occupiers have taken Kyiv region residents' lives away

SECOND

Monday, April 4, 2022 7:44 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
Originally posted by SECOND, the broken record:
Trump. Trump. TRUMP! trumptrumptrumptrump.
Trump?
Trump!
trumpetytrumptrumptrumptrumpetytrumptrumptrumpetytrump
T.r.u.m.p.
Trump
Trump TRUMP trump
pmurt tuprm mrupt ptrum mprtu muptr....
TRUMP

SIGNY Everything SECOND posts is irrelevant

SECOND The broken record:That was some really shallow analysis, Signym. Did you recognize that Ukraine would have been conquered by now without Biden as President? Trump has been asking Putin for help being reelected, so I'm sure Trump
trimp
trumptrumptrumptrump
Trump?
TRUMP!
trumeptytumptrumptrump

tee hee

Signym, what is wrong with you? Are you touchy about Russians getting monetarily punished for what Putin ordered done to Ukraine? Is that why you are touched in the head?

In the woods outside Bucha today we met Maria, 80, who hadn't minded the Russian soldiers so much when they turned up at her house. It was only after they withdrew that she found out they had tied up and executed her neighbours.

De-mining experts going into Irpin told us it would take months, if not years, to clear all the regions the Russians had held around Kyiv. These areas might have been liberated, but not one soldier or civilian we met was celebrating. There was just sorrow, and anger.
https://twitter.com/louiseelisabet/status/1510375300714143747

The horrors of Putin’s invasion of Ukraine are increasingly coming to light
https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/03/europe/ukraine-bucha-horrors/index.html

Signym, it doesn't look like Putin made it clear to his Army that being a Ukrainian suburbanite does not automatically make you a Neo-Nazi deserving a bullet in the back of the head, execution style. There will be economic consequences back in Mother Russia for what Putin's army did in Ukraine.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, April 4, 2022 8:02 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Cap'n, Second and Ted have no good news coming out of the Democrat party and they know that the Democrats are going to get destroyed in the November elections, so all they can do is talk about Putin.
The good news is that Putin lost this war, but he would have already won if Trump was President.

None of this would even be going on if Trump were President.

And gas would be $2.35 a gallon.

--------------------------------------------------

Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Monday, April 4, 2022 8:32 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
B) I never said that Russia is NOW focusing on the east. I have been posting that Russia (and Chechens and DPR and LPR forces) have ALWAYS focused on the east. Just bc the M$M had a misguided laser focus on Kiev doesn't mean that's where the action was.

Really? Must have been when you didn't post the proof you said you had that Ukrainians using other Ukrainians as human shields.

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
C) Your "faith" (belief/religion/delusion) isn't reality-based, it's an ideological addiction. I hope you hit bottom soon and are cured of your addiction.

I am ideologically addicted to hating liars and bullies. Hang 'em all. For you? I hope you get over worshipping a child murderer.

Fwiw, I think the biggest miscalculation Putin made, is that even before he decided to invade Ukraine and kill women and children, Russia was universally disliked and distrusted. World wide. I think he actually thought people liked him even? Like some some cute Disney talking rat villain. Now? Especially with recent war crimes so obvious? That hatred is DEEP. It's not going away any time soon, certainly not as long as he is alive.

THG

Monday, April 4, 2022 8:34 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Why the enormous scale of financial pain being inflicted on Russia worries some in the West

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/why-the-enormous-scale-of-fina
ncial-pain-being-inflicted-on-russia-worries-some-in-the-west/ar-AAUxvE4?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

These sanctions are going to last long after they are lifted. Russia will never be the same. Most who will suffer have nothing to do with Putins' decisions yet without sanctions of this magnitude war is the only option left. It may come to that yet. Putin cannot be allowed to march through Europe. There are no winners here. Only those who will suffer because a mad man is running Russia.

T

T

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Monday, April 4, 2022 8:37 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
These sanctions are going to last long after they are lifted. Russia will never be the same. Most who will suffer have nothing to do with Putins' decisions yet without sanctions of this magnitude war is the only option left. It may come to that yet. Putin cannot be allowed to march through Europe. There are no winners here. Only those who will suffer because a mad man is running Russia.

Way, way down the road, maybe generations to come will look back and "thank" Putin for bringing the rest of the world together with one unifying purpose?

SIGNYM

Monday, April 4, 2022 11:31 PM

Quote:
SignyM:
B) I never said that Russia is NOW focusing on the east. I have been posting that Russia (and Chechens and DPR and LPR forces) have ALWAYS focused on the east. Just bc the M$M had a misguided laser focus on Kiev doesn't mean that's where the action was.

CAPON: Really? Must have been when you didn't post the proof you said you had that Ukrainians using other Ukrainians as human shields.

Stop lying.
I posted (and referenced The Duran) in the realm of a half-dozen times that the action has always been in SE Ukraine. YOU pretend not to know, but others here remember, and THEY know you're lying. Even THUGR and SECOND.
AFA "human shields", I posted the best link I could find to evidence that Ukies killed their own hostages en masse. I think that's good enough.

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
C) Your "faith" (belief/religion/delusion) isn't reality-based, it's an ideological addiction. I hope you hit bottom soon and are cured of your addiction.

CAPON: I am ideologically addicted to hating liars and bullies.

Seeing as you lie and bully ... hate yourself much?

Quote:
CAPON: For you? I hope you get over worshipping a child murderer.

Like you worship Madeline Albright, who said killing 500,000 Iraq children was "worth it"?
Or Hillary, who turned Libya into a killing field?
Or Victoria "Fuck the EU" Nuland, who precipitated a civil war in Ukraine where "her side" relentlessly shelled civilians (including children) in the Donbas?

Happy with yourself?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

SIGNYM

Monday, April 4, 2022 11:39 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SECOND, the broken record:
Trump. Trump. TRUMP! trumptrumptrumptrump.
Trump?
Trump!
trumpetytrumptrumptrumptrumpetytrumptrumptrumpetytrump
T.r.u.m.p.
Trump
Trump TRUMP trump
pmurt tuprm mrupt ptrum mprtu muptr....
TRUMP

SIGNY Everything SECOND posts is irrelevant

SECOND The broken record:That was some really shallow analysis, Signym. Did you recognize that Ukraine would have been conquered by now without Biden as President? Trump has been asking Putin for help being reelected, so I'm sure Trump
trimp
trumptrumptrumptrump
Trump?
TRUMP!
trumeptytumptrumptrump

tee hee

SECOND: Signym, what is wrong with you?

SECOND, what is wrong with YOU? The thread could be about ANYTHING, and yet you always wind up posting about Trump. You're obssessed with the guy, and he isn't even President!

Quote:
SECOND: Signym has refused to admit all Russia's moves are war crimes. Signym needs paperwork. Signym needs all the boxes checked on the forms and proper procedures

Yep! Because when KNOWN LIARS tell me something, I need other than their word. I need proof. That's what keeps me from being derailed by RUSSIA!COLLUSION! and SADDAMWMD! and ASSADGASSEDHISOWNPEOPLE! and QADDAFIMASSACREDHOWHISOWNPEOPLE! and the dozen or so other lies that you apparently swallowed whole.

But since you're a sociopathic liar, I expect you don't have much use for truth.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

SIGNYM

Monday, April 4, 2022 11:55 PM

Quote:
EU Preps New Russia Sanctions After Bucha Massacre Which Kremlin Calls Staged "Provocation"

The Kremlin is vehemently rejecting the accusations, calling it a 'staged provocation' for the purpose of triggering more sanctions and drawing the West more into the fight. Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said, "Yesterday, the current UN SC president, Britain, acting in accordance with its worst traditions, once again refused to give consent to holding a Security Council meeting on Bucha. Today, Russia will demand once again the UN Security Council meet in session to discuss criminal provocations by the Ukrainian military and radicals in that city," according to TASS.

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/eu-preps-new-russia-sanctions-after-
bucha-massacre-allegations-kremlin-rejects-staged

Now, why would Britain want to prevent the UN from looking into this? Is there something to hide?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

SECOND

Tuesday, April 5, 2022 12:41 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

But since you're a sociopathic liar, I expect you don't have much use for truth.

You have never been more crazy, Signym, but this will really drive you so far over the top that you won't be able to see the top from where you are:

RIA Novosti is a Russian state-owned domestic news agency.

Yesterday, RIA Novosti published a lengthy piece titled "What Russia should do with Ukraine", which explains in detail what Russia understands by denazification. It's truly horrific: 1/6

The special operation revealed that not only the political leadership in Ukraine is Nazi, but also the majority of the population. All Ukrainians who have taken up arms must be eliminated - because they are responsible for the genocide of the Russian people. 2/6

Ukrainians disguise their Nazism by calling it a "desire for independence" and a "European way of development". Ukraine doesn't have a Nazi party, a Führer or racial laws, but because of its flexibility, Ukrainian Nazism is far more dangerous to the world than Hitler's Nazism 3/6

Denazification means de-Ukrainianisation. Ukrainians are an artificial anti-Russian construct. They should no longer have a national identity. Denazification of Ukraine also means its inevitable de-Europeanisation. 4/6

Ukraine's political elite must be eliminated as it cannot be re-educated. Ordinary Ukrainians must experience all the horrors of war and absorb the experience as a historical lesson and atonement for their guilt. 5/6

The liberated and denazified territory of the Ukrainian state should no longer be called Ukraine. Denazification should last at least one generation - 25 years. Then the author goes on to detail exactly what needs to be done: https://ria.ru/20220403/ukraina-1781469605.html 6/6

4:12 AM · Apr 4, 2022·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/TadeuszGiczan/status/1510908227202002947

Google helpfully also provides a translation. Sure enough, Russia intends to exterminate the Ukrainaians: https://ria-ru.translate.goog/20220403/ukraina-1781469605.html?_x_tr_s
l=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Just in case Putin realizes his state owned media company should not have called for genocide in Ukraine, and takes the page down, the page has been saved:
https://web.archive.org/web/20220404091828/https://ria.ru/20220403/ukr
aina-1781469605.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

SIGNYM

Tuesday, April 5, 2022 1:05 AM

There is a difference between an opinion piece ("should do") and what is actually being done. That the opinion piece is urging something be done implies that it is not yet happening.

You're a liar, SECOND. Truth means nothing to you. I know who I am and, more importantly, YOU know who I am. Each "Russian Troll" you posted was a lie. Why should I, or anyone, believe anything that you (the human pretzel) posts?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

SECOND

Tuesday, April 5, 2022 1:27 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
There is a difference between an opinion piece ("should do") and what is actually being done. That the opinion piece is urging something be done implies that it is not yet happening.

You're a liar, SECOND. Truth means nothing to you. I know who I am and, more importantly, YOU know who I am. Each "Russian Troll" you posted was a lie. Why should I, or anyone, believe anything that you (the human pretzel) posts?

The opinion piece is perfectly congruent with suburbanite Ukrainians being murdered execution style with a bullet in the back of the head by Russian soldiers, so where did you get "not yet happening", Signym? Oh-Oh! You'll say Ukrainians aren't being executed by Russians! Well that makes you a special little expert, Signym. Likewise, Putin says the 4 million Ukrainians who died in Holodomor were not killed by Stalin, but by bad weather. Special little expert Putin could not be confused, could he?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

SIGNYM

Tuesday, April 5, 2022 5:51 AM

More bull from SECOND, The Human Pretzel.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

SECOND

Tuesday, April 5, 2022 7:02 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
More bull from SECOND, The Human Pretzel.

In retaking their territory, the Ukrainians have discovered grim evidence that Russian forces committed war crimes during their occupation. Moscow, characteristically, dismissed the allegations as “another staged performance by the Kyiv regime for the Western media.”
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/04/the-war-in-ukraine-is-shifting
-not-ending.html

Russian invaders are now treating the entirety of the Ukrainian population as combatants, as dirt to be cleansed.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/04/russia-bucha-killing
s-war-crimes-genocide/629470/

Warning: This story contains graphic imagery of Ukrainians executed by Russians.
https://web.archive.org/web/20220404174911/https://www.theatlantic.com
/ideas/archive/2022/04/russia-bucha-killings-war-crimes-genocide/629470/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, April 5, 2022 7:15 AM

Nobody cares.

--------------------------------------------------

Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

SECOND

Tuesday, April 5, 2022 8:23 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody cares.

The 2nd Amendment gives Russians the Constitutional Right to shoot Ukrainian suburbanites in the back of the head, execution style, and the 5th Amendment gives Russians the Right to say "I didn't do it and you can't prove I did since the only witness, other than me, is dead. Gotcha!"

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/fifth_amendment

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

SIGNYM

Tuesday, April 5, 2022 9:21 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody cares.
The 2nd Amendment gives Russians the Constitutional Right to shoot Ukrainian suburbanites in the back of the head, execution style, and the 5th Amendment gives Russians the Right to say "I didn't do it and you can't prove I did since the only witness, other than me, is dead. Gotcha!"

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/fifth_amendment

Russians call for a UN investigation of Bucha.

Investigation was blocked by Britain.

Something to hide there, BoJo?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

SECOND

Tuesday, April 5, 2022 3:29 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Russians call for a UN investigation of Bucha.

Investigation was blocked by Britain.

Something to hide there, BoJo?

Actually what happened was Britain Called For Russia's Suspension From UN Rights Council. The key quote: "Russia's participation on the Human Rights Council is a farce." - https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-removal-un-rights-council/31785242.html

Why would anyone call Russia a farce? There is a news story about that:

Russian atrocities are nothing new or “You can’t prove anything in Court because we killed all the witnesses!”

Consider the Russian way of war during the past decades, from Afghanistan to Chechnya to Syria. All these wars were characterized by mass casualty attacks against civilians by the Russians, as well as credible allegations of the summary executions of civilians by Russian forces.

In the 1980s, the Soviet Union waged a nine-year war in Afghanistan during which time Human Rights Watch reported, “Over one million Afghan civilians are believed to have been killed … most in aerial bombardments. Tens of thousands have disappeared – many of them the victims of summary executions. …”

More Atrocities at https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/04/opinions/russian-atrocities-ukraine-ber
gen/index.html

Never mind Ukraine. The real atrocities are the shortages of European Luxury Goods in Moscow!
It’s a War Crime!

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, April 5, 2022 6:19 PM

Nobody cares.

--------------------------------------------------

Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

THG

Tuesday, April 5, 2022 7:20 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:

There is a difference between an opinion piece ("should do") and what is actually being done. That the opinion piece is urging something be done implies that it is not yet happening.

You're a liar, SECOND. Truth means nothing to you. I know who I am and, more importantly, YOU know who I am. Each "Russian Troll" you posted was a lie. Why should I, or anyone, believe anything that you (the human pretzel) posts?

Polish Russian Collaborator Signym, congratulations. You have descended into the realm of 100% troll here at Firefly Fans. Comrade your posts are complete make-believe, illusory. They’re obviously posted by someone who is as unstable as Jack. Even comrade kiki ran for the hills so she would not have to condone what is happening in Ukraine. She has to know her silence on the matter is no better. She is a coward, no surprise there.

I see by your posts you condone the atrocities by denying they occurred, or by making claims the other side did it to themselves. You’re just sick in the head. As Shepherd Book would say, you will reside in a special place in hell.

Signym, you disgust me.

T

THG

Tuesday, April 5, 2022 7:34 PM

T

SECOND

Tuesday, April 5, 2022 8:14 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody cares.

6ix, Russians don't care. Rape as a weapon: huge scale of sexual violence inflicted in Ukraine emerges

Women across Ukraine are grappling with the threat of rape as a weapon of war as growing evidence of sexual violence emerges from areas retaken from retreating Russian forces.

Particularly difficult for many to comprehend is the scale of the sexual violence. As Russian troops have withdrawn from towns and suburbs around the capital in order to refocus the war effort on Ukraine’s east, women and girls have come forward to tell the police, media and human rights organisations of atrocities they have suffered at the hands of Russian soldiers. Gang-rapes, assaults taking place at gunpoint, and rapes committed in front of children are among the grim testimonies collected by investigators.

Rape and sexual assault are considered war crimes and a breach of international humanitarian law, and both Ukraine’s prosecutor general and the international Criminal Court have said they will open investigations into reported sexual violence. But what currently seems like a far-off possibility of justice has done little to assuage Ukrainian women’s fears of what may yet happen in a war that is far from over.

The trauma caused by the use of rape as a military tactic will lead to deep suffering across Ukrainian society for years to come.

“When a woman gets away it looks like she’s safe, she’s far away from the guns and the man who raped her,” said Sasha Kantser, external affairs manager for the Lviv chapter of Feminist Workshop, which has helped hundreds of displaced women and girls since the war broke out.

“But the trauma is a bomb inside her, that follows her. The scale of what is happening now is heartbreaking.”

More at https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/03/all-wars-are-like-this-u
sed-as-a-weapon-of-war-in-ukraine

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

THG

Tuesday, April 5, 2022 8:21 PM

T

Support Growing Within EU For Russian Oil Embargo

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Tuesday, April 5, 2022 8:21 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
SignyM:
B) I never said that Russia is NOW focusing on the east. I have been posting that Russia (and Chechens and DPR and LPR forces) have ALWAYS focused on the east. Just bc the M$M had a misguided laser focus on Kiev doesn't mean that's where the action was.

CAPON: Really? Must have been when you didn't post the proof you said you had that Ukrainians using other Ukrainians as human shields.
Stop lying.
I posted (and referenced The Duran) in the realm of a half-dozen times that the action has always been in SE Ukraine. YOU pretend not to know, but others here remember, and THEY know you're lying. Even THUGR and SECOND.
AFA "human shields", I posted the best link I could find to evidence that Ukies killed their own hostages en masse. I think that's good enough.

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
C) Your "faith" (belief/religion/delusion) isn't reality-based, it's an ideological addiction. I hope you hit bottom soon and are cured of your addiction.

CAPON: I am ideologically addicted to hating liars and bullies.
Seeing as you lie and bully ... hate yourself much?

Quote:
CAPON: For you? I hope you get over worshipping a child murderer.
Like you worship Madeline Albright, who said killing 500,000 Iraq children was "worth it"?
Or Hillary, who turned Libya into a killing field?
Or Victoria "Fuck the EU" Nuland, who precipitated a civil war in Ukraine where "her side" relentlessly shelled civilians (including children) in the Donbas?

Happy with yourself?

Broken record sez... That's like your 1,000th Nuland/Hillary/Albright reference. You're just as worthless as Jack.

THG

Tuesday, April 5, 2022 9:09 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:

There is a difference between an opinion piece ("should do") and what is actually being done. That the opinion piece is urging something be done implies that it is not yet happening.

You're a liar, SECOND. Truth means nothing to you. I know who I am and, more importantly, YOU know who I am. Each "Russian Troll" you posted was a lie. Why should I, or anyone, believe anything that you (the human pretzel) posts?

Polish Russian Collaborator Signym, congratulations. You have descended into the realm of 100% troll here at Firefly Fans. Comrade your posts are complete make-believe, illusory. They’re obviously posted by someone who is as unstable as Jack. Even comrade kiki ran for the hills so she would not have to condone what is happening in Ukraine. She has to know her silence on the matter is no better. She is a coward, no surprise there.

I see by your posts you condone the atrocities by denying they occurred, or by making claims the other side did it to themselves. You’re just sick in the head. As Shepherd Book would say, you will reside in a special place in hell.

Signym, you disgust me.

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Satellite Images Contradict Russia's Claims On Bucha

SECOND

Tuesday, April 5, 2022 10:38 PM

Tucker Carlson being lampooned:

.@TuckerCarlson tonight: “What if these bodies of tortured, dead civilians were staged? What if they’re fake? What if the Ukrainian military killed them & then blamed Russia? I’m not saying any of this is true, I’m just asking the questions. Why can’t we ask these questions?”
7:55 AM · Apr 4, 2022·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/WalshFreedom/status/1510964257223020547

Over at Texas A&M, Trump Central in Texas, they’re complaining that Tucker Carlson of FOX News didn’t say this, mostly because he has a long show to fill, so he can’t be that direct, but he did say it in many more words. (In 1977, I graduated from the University of Texas at Austin, the sworn enemies of Texas A&M and their Trump loving ways.)
https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3281923

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

SIGNYM

Tuesday, April 5, 2022 11:21 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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SignyM:
B) I never said that Russia is NOW focusing on the east. I have been posting that Russia (and Chechens and DPR and LPR forces) have ALWAYS focused on the east. Just bc the M$M had a misguided laser focus on Kiev doesn't mean that's where the action was.

CAPON: Really? Must have been when you didn't post the proof you said you had that Ukrainians using other Ukrainians as human shields.
Stop lying.
I posted (and referenced The Duran) in the realm of a half-dozen times that the action has always been in SE Ukraine. YOU pretend not to know, but others here remember, and THEY know you're lying. Even THUGR and SECOND.
AFA "human shields", I posted the best link I could find to evidence that Ukies killed their own hostages en masse. I think that's good enough.

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
C) Your "faith" (belief/religion/delusion) isn't reality-based, it's an ideological addiction. I hope you hit bottom soon and are cured of your addiction.

CAPON: I am ideologically addicted to hating liars and bullies.
Seeing as you lie and bully ... hate yourself much?

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CAPON: For you? I hope you get over worshipping a child murderer.
Like you worship Madeline Albright, who said killing 500,000 Iraq children was "worth it"?
Or Hillary, who turned Libya into a killing field?
Or Victoria "Fuck the EU" Nuland, who precipitated a civil war in Ukraine where "her side" relentlessly shelled civilians (including children) in the Donbas?

Happy with yourself?

Broken record sez... That's like your 1,000th Nuland/Hillary/Albright reference. You're just as worthless as Jack.

And your 100,000th reference to "evil Russia"

The differences between your references and mine are that

A) Mine are founded in reality
B) You have never addressed that gaping hole in your morals

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

SIGNYM

Tuesday, April 5, 2022 11:30 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:

There is a difference between an opinion piece ("should do") and what is actually being done. That the opinion piece is urging something be done implies that it is not yet happening.
You're a liar, SECOND. Truth means nothing to you. I know who I am and, more importantly, YOU know who I am. Each "Russian Troll" you posted was a lie. Why should I, or anyone, believe anything that you (the human pretzel) posts?

THUGR: Polish Russian ... blah blah blah continues his delusion ...

Signym, you disgust me.

Satellite image dates can be faked.

What they SHOULD have done is direct the "war crimes" team already in Ukraine to the area and get a time of death. The days that the Russians left and the day the Ukies took over is separated by two days. A forensic investigator of an uncontaminated crime scene (bodies not moved) would've been definitive.

So why not have a REAL investigation?

Oh BTW, you're too stupid to be disgusting. You're somewhere between amusing and pitiful.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

SIGNYM

Tuesday, April 5, 2022 11:42 PM

Quote:
Putin, Xi Open To 'Direct Talks' With Zelensky As Pentagon Fails To Confirm Russian Involvement In Bucha Killings

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-xi-open-direct-talks-zele
nsky-pentagon-fails-confirm-russian-involvement-bucha

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

SECOND

Wednesday, April 6, 2022 12:04 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Pentagon Fails To Confirm Russian Involvement In Bucha Killings

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-xi-open-direct-talks-zele
nsky-pentagon-fails-confirm-russian-involvement-bucha

That is NOT what the Pentagon said, Signym.

The story that Zerohedge claimed to say what you said actually said something very different:

WASHINGTON, April 4 (Reuters) - The U.S. military is not in a position to independently confirm Ukrainian accounts of atrocities by Russian forces against civilians in the town of Bucha, but has no reason to dispute the accounts either, a senior U.S. defense official said on Monday.

"We're seeing the same imagery that you are. We have no reason whatsoever to refute the Ukrainian claims about these atrocities -- clearly, deeply, deeply troubling," the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

"The Pentagon can't independently and single handedly confirm that, but we're also not in any position to refute those claims."

https://www.reuters.com/world/pentagon-cant-independently-confirm-atro
cities-ukraines-bucha-official-says-2022-04-04/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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