Abortion
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The media House of 'salon' is full of Pedophiles?
I notice second you still support the mohammedan islamics
you also still support the fire bombings, and terroristic attacks on pro-life offices and a mob following the Supreme Court home and making death threats to their family
I know you second with your perversions might have some kind of political point to make
But can you link to another site other than Salon DEFENDERS Of PEDOPHILES ?
Are there other sites out there which are NOT pro-pedophile perverted websites??
Perhaps a more moderate liberttarian middle ground site with links to pedo criminals?
Salon Publishes Male ReaverFan Antifas Disturbing Article About His Violent Anti-White Fantasies
Salon offering pedophiles a platform and has been trying to normalize criminal child abuse and pederasty
The party of open-borders? fire bombings? and Free Crack for the Welfare Reparations Gibs? 
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
All you Democrats have now is Russia and Abortion.
They will hand out Free Crack to those weirdos doing Occult Abortion Rituals with Dolls...
...perhaps the crackheads will be too drunk and stoned to get out on vote
maybe human sterilization for some crazy type wasn't such a bad idea afterall?
or maybe in the political silly seasons they can just hack the voter machines?
the screeching protests and Occult Human Sacrifice shit they do with dolls outside Churches is weird
the same so-called Atheist crowd are too chicken shit and self-hating to do it outside an islamo mosque
and Salon?
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2017/02/21/isnt-that-convenient-salon-de
letes-all-articles-defending-pedophiles-from-their-site/
,
https://wearechange.org/virtuous-pedophiles-mike-cernovich-reveals-sal
ons-dirty-secret/
,
https://theralphretort.com/disgusting-salon-goes-back-pro-pedophile-we
ll-5017016/
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One disturbing trend over the last year or so has been the move by SJWs to attempt to normalize pedophilia.
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pro-pedophile website salon
https://archive.ph/0464Q
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CPAC Head Promotes Abortion Ban to Stave Off ‘Great Replacement’
“If you’re worried about this quote-unquote replacement, why don’t we start there. Start with allowing our own people to live.”
by David Gilbert
The GOP has come up with a solution for the “great replacement” it fears is threatening to replace traditional white Republican voters with immigrants: an abortion ban.
Matt Schlapp, the head of the influential Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) and a confidant to former President Donald Trump, says that overturning Roe v. Wade, the 1973 Supreme Court decision that legalized abortion nationwide, would be a good “first step” in fixing what he says is the problem of immigration in the U.S.
And in doing so, he floated a core concern of white supremacists’ original “great replacement theory” that even fringe GOP politicians haven’t been willing to voice publicly: that immigrants are outbreeding the native-born population and threatening to replace them in society.
“I am very hopeful in America that we will give the right to life to our unborn children,” Schlapp told U.S. media, who were denied entry to the CPAC conference occurring this week in Budapest. Schlapp was asked whether he agreed with the comments made by his host, authoritarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban, who told the conference that Europe was “committing suicide” through immigration.
“Roe v. Wade is being adjudicated at the Supreme Court right now, for people that believe that we somehow need to replace populations or bring in new workers, I think it is an appropriate first step to give the…enshrinement in law the right to life for our own unborn children,” he said.
Pressed further for what he meant, Schlapp added that he thought overturning abortion and immigration were “separate issues,” but then contradicted himself almost immediately.
“If you say there is a population problem in a country, but you’re killing millions of your own people through legalized abortion every year, if that were to be reduced, some of that problem is solved,” Schlapp said. “You have millions of people who can take many of these jobs. How come no one brings that up? If you’re worried about this quote-unquote replacement, why don’t we start there? Start with allowing our own people to live.”
(The most recent figures from the CDC put the number of legal abortions in the U.S. in 2019 at 630,000.)
The “great replacement theory” is a century-old conspiracy that has found new life inside the Republican Party of late. The danger of this rhetoric was highlighted this week when the 18-year-old accused of killing 10 people in a Buffalo supermarket wrote in his diary about being inspired by the “great replacement theory” or “white genocide,” to allegedly commit the horrific attack.
The conspiracy holds that “native” white Christian populations are being replaced by immigrants of different races and religions and GOP candidates for the Senate have been pushing a specific version of the theory that claims Democrats want an immigrant invasion to overwhelm “traditional” voters and take over the country.
But Schlapp’s version of the conspiracy is even more extreme and aligns with the white supremacist origins of the theory that claims low birthrates will see the country’s “native” population replaced by an immigrant population.
This was a cornerstone of the 2017 Charlottesville rally when white supremacists chanted “You will not replace us” and “Jews will not replace us,” and some in the GOP have echoed similar statements. In 2018, former Rep. Steve King said, “We can't restore our civilization with somebody else's babies.”
Like many others in the GOP, Schlapp pushed the lie that the 2020 election was stolen from Trump, and in the same breath spoke about the dangers of immigration.
When asked directly if he was a supporter or believer in the “great replacement theory,” he didn't back down.
“I think one of the marks on our history is the idea of turning a blind eye to the millions of children who were not allowed t
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Originally posted by second:
CPAC Head Promotes Abortion Ban to Stave Off ‘Great Replacement’
That's funny. The amount of babies murdered by our Government were disproportionately black babies by a million miles.
If anything, Roe v Wade has been a great contributor to staving off the Great Replacement for decades now. Whites would have been a minority if Democrats didn't kill so many black babies for a few generations now.
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Trump Is Telling Allies His Record on Abortion Could Hurt His 2024 Chances
If Trump's Supreme Court Justices overturn Roe v Wade, women voters might blame Trump.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/donald-trump-2024-
abortion-roevswade-1356278/
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Trump Is Telling Allies His Record on Abortion Could Hurt His 2024 Chances
If Trump's Supreme Court Justices overturn Roe v Wade, women voters might blame Trump.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/donald-trump-2024-
abortion-roevswade-1356278/
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Nah.
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Quote:All of Trump's judges are Catholics. Some voters realize what that means, but most voters realize nothing, which is forever causing for themselves endless unsolvable problems:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nah.
GOP candidate: I’d vote to ban birth control. ‘It should not be legal.’
Jacky Eubanks says no society can succeed “outside of the Christian moral order.”
https://onlysky.media/hemant-mehta/michigan-gop-candidate-id-vote-to-b
an-birth-control-it-should-not-be-legal/
Roman Catholics account for 20% of the U.S. population, yet they are 67% of the Supreme Court’s nine seats now that President Donald Trump has nominated Amy Coney Barrett to fill its vacancy. Less than 1% of Catholics would lie to a Senate Committee when asked if they would overturn Roe v Wade, but every Catholic Trump chose is in that less than 1% group. I wonder how that happened? I wonder if voters will notice what Trump did? Probably not.
https://apnews.com/article/us-supreme-court-ruth-bader-ginsburg-archiv
e-courts-donald-trump-987e5fb6de8a1a29d1cbb00bf1f1948c
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Do you want to know why Catholic Judges force non-Catholics to obey Catholic Canon Law when non-Catholic Judges don't? This is why and it is also a reason why Catholics should NOT be judges unless they swear to only base their decisions on US Law, never on Catholic Canon Law:
The conservative archbishop of San Francisco, Salvatore Cordileone, says House Speaker Nancy Pelosi may no longer receive the holy sacrament of Communion in the archdiocese, because she supports abortion rights.
In a letter to Pelosi released Friday afternoon, the archbishop wrote that he had informed the California Democrat that “should you not publically repudiate your advocacy for abortion ‘rights’ or else refrain from referring to your Catholic faith in public and receiving Holy Communion, I would have no choice but to make a declaration, in keeping with canon 915, that you are not to be admitted to Holy Communion.”
“As you have not publically repudiated your position on abortion, and continue to refer to your Catholic faith in justifying your position and to receive Holy Communion, that time has now come,” he continued. “Therefore, in light of my responsibility as the Archbishop of San Francisco to be ‘concerned for all the Christian faithful entrusted to [my] care’ (Code of Canon Law, can. 383, §1), by means of this communication I am hereby notifying you that you are not to present yourself for Holy Communion and, should you do so, you are not to be admitted to Holy Communion, until such time as you publicly repudiate your advocacy for the legitimacy of abortion and confess and receive absolution of this grave sin in the sacrament of Penance.”
https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/20/politics/pelosi-communion-ban-abortion-
san-francisco-archdiocese/index.html
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Your problem, Second, is that if one were truly to believe that Biden* got 80 million votes in 2020, you've already so deeply saturated the total possible vote count that a Democrat was ever going to get.
Then there were two years of everything being bullshit afterward.
Nobody gives one single fuck about abortion.
Keep talking about abortion and Russia and see where it gets you.
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Keep talking about abortion and Russia and see where it gets you.
Oh. BTW... have you explained to the blacks and Latinos how sending $40 Billion to Ukraine was in their best interests yet?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-signs-40-billion-dollars-ukraine-ai
d-south-korea-trip/
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Louisiana Senator Bill Cassidy: Our Maternal Death Rates Are Only Bad If You Count Black Women
Headline looks like an exaggeration, but read the article and it is not.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/05/bill-cassidy-maternal-mortalit
y-rates
Cassidy — who wants to defund Planned Parenthood - says Louisiana's maternal mortality rates are abysmal, but if you only count white women, they’re not that bad! In Louisiana, Black mothers are four times as likely to die than white mothers. The USA has the worst mortality rate in the world.
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Quote:Sending $40 billion or $40 trillion or $40 bazillion would NOT decrease what goes to other projects. Congress has infinite dollars. Republicans pretend otherwise because they want to spend nothing and pretending there is only a limited amount of money is the best way to trick the ignorant into believing nothing can be done.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Oh. BTW... have you explained to the blacks and Latinos how sending $40 Billion to Ukraine was in their best interests yet?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-signs-40-billion-dollars-ukraine-ai
d-south-korea-trip/
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As a practical note, the wealthy underpay their income taxes by $1 trillion per year. That would be easy money to collect, but Republicans don't want it collected.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-treasury-irs/irs-chief-says-1-t
rillion-in-taxes-goes-uncollected-every-year-idUSKBN2C0255
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Sending $40 billion or $40 trillion or $40 bazillion would NOT decrease what goes to other projects. Congress has infinite dollars.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Oh. BTW... have you explained to the blacks and Latinos how sending $40 Billion to Ukraine was in their best interests yet?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-signs-40-billion-dollars-ukraine-ai
d-south-korea-trip/
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Quote:I have another that 6ix can't understand: The One Thing the Dissenting Justices Could Do to Save Roe v. Wade
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
This is all you need to know about Second.
Five of the nine Supreme Court justices are prepared to overturn Roe v. Wade. The four justices in the minority can stop that from happening.
Federal law and the Supreme Court’s own rules establish the quorum of justices necessary to do business at six. Unless at least six justices agree to hear a case, the Supreme Court cannot act. Thus, a denial of quorum would deprive the presumptive five-justice majority in Dobbs from adopting Justice Samuel Alito’s leaked draft majority opinion, leaving Roe intact for now.
Deprivations of quorum are not novel. For instance, in 2008, the Supreme Court agreed to hear American Isuzu Motors Inc. v. Ntsebeza, a case concerning a group of businesses accused of maintaining apartheid in South Africa. Because so many large corporations were named defendants, four justices recused themselves due to conflicts of interest. As a result, the Supreme Court lacked a quorum and the five remaining justices were unable to rule on the case.
In such situations, federal law states that a majority of the remaining justices can either affirm the judgment of the lower court or, if they believe the lack of quorum is temporary, hold the case until the next term and decide it then. Accordingly, a majority of the five qualified justices in Ntsebeza voted to affirm the appeals court’s judgment, presumably because they did not foresee their fellow justices’ conflicts of interest abating.
Moreover, justices can recuse themselves from any case for any reason. To that end, while federal law compels recusal in the face of certain conflicts of interest, it imposes no requirement that unconflicted justices hear a case. Indeed, despite some lower courts imposing a “duty to sit” on federal judges—a duty that Chief Justice William Rehnquist once thought applicable to Supreme Court justices—never has a majority of the Supreme Court held that its justices must decide a case where they are qualified to do so.
For example, despite his qualification to hear cases, Justice Robert Jackson famously took a leave of absence from the Supreme Court from 1945 to 1946 to serve as chief prosecutor at the Nuremberg Trials, leaving eight justices to keep the court operating in his absence. Furthermore, to the extent a “duty to sit” ever applied to Supreme Court justices, Congress abolished it in 1974 to relieve federal judges from having to hear cases where they were arguably disqualified due to conflicts of interest, thus “enhanc[ing] public confidence in the impartiality of the judicial system.” One consequence of this legislation was an increase in the independence of the judiciary, giving judges the unchecked discretion to recuse themselves whenever they please, so long as federal law does not compel them to do so. Today, the four justices who will ostensibly make up the Dobbs minority can recuse themselves despite their having no apparent conflict of interest.
Justice and the institutional legitimacy of the Supreme Court demand that these justices do so.
So, to the four justices writing your dissents in Dobbs: Stop writing. Take evasive action. Recuse yourselves.
Denying quorum to avoid constitutional calamity may set a troubling precedent, but at least the Supreme Court would survive, as would the fundamental rights of millions upon millions of Americans. Watching your colleagues destroy a core constitutional right would be unimaginable. But watching them do so when you could have stopped them would be unforgivable.
More at https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/06/abortion-save-roe-v-wade-j
ustices-supreme-court-filibuster.html
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What Justice Alito Can Learn From a 114-Year-Old Sex Abuse Scandal
By Aaron Tang
June 02, 2022, 12:32 PM
In 1908, a local scandal gripped the attention of some residents of Portland, Oregon. Authorities arrested a prominent “electric healer” named J.D. Dunn on allegations that he had sexually abused a fourteen-year-old patient during an appointment to treat her for goiter.
At trial, Dunn’s entire defense hung on the credibility of his star witness, a certain Mrs. Kruse. Kruse testified that she was physically present in Dunn’s office when he’d allegedly abused the minor patient—and that she saw no such thing.
Prosecutors responded with a tactic familiar to anyone who’s seen Law and Order: they tried to discredit Kruse on cross-examination. They got her to admit that she, too, was a patient of Dunn’s, but they couldn’t get her to describe the nature of her treatment. So they called another witness who testified that Dunn had actually performed an abortion on Kruse when she was three months pregnant.
What happened next reveals a striking lesson about the legal status of abortion in early America. This lesson casts severe doubt on the historical assertions that underpin Justice Samuel Alito’s leaked draft opinion in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, an opinion that would eliminate the constitutional right to terminate a pregnancy.
In Alito’s world, the accusation that Dunn had performed an abortion should have been a jaw-dropping moment in open court. At the time, Oregon had a law declaring any abortion performed on any “woman pregnant with a child” to be punishable as manslaughter. According to Alito, such language would have “made abortion a crime at all stages in pregnancy.” Dunn, in other words, had just been accused of an offense even more severe than the one for which he was on trial.
But in the real world, Oregon prosecutors never even considered prosecuting Dunn for performing the abortion. Quite the opposite. Appearing before the Oregon Supreme Court, attorneys for the state insisted that “abortion is not a crime” under Oregon law unless it results in the death “of a quick fetus.” Dunn had accordingly broken no law because he performed Kruse’s abortion prior to quickening—the point at which a fetus makes its first noticeable movement, as early as fifteen or sixteen weeks in pregnancy.
This is devastating for Alito’s argument. Here’s why.
Recall that the leaked opinion overturns Roe v. Wade on the basis of a particular legal test: the Constitution, it says, can only protect the right to abortion if it is “deeply rooted in our nation’s history and tradition.” Alito recognizes that this test is actually terrible for him as of the founding because every state then in the union respected the “distinction between pre- and post-quickening abortion” and treated the former as no crime at all.
His response is to assert that this tradition changed by the time the 14th Amendment was adopted in 1868. By then, Alito claims, “three quarters of the States made abortion a crime at all stages of pregnancy.” So crucial is this argument to his opinion that he includes a 23-page appendix—longer than many Supreme Court majority opinions—quoting every state law he believes criminalized abortion throughout pregnancy.
Oregon is one of the states on his list.
But as the story of J.D. Dunn proves, that cannot be correct. Not unless one thinks Oregon prosecutors lied to their own Supreme Court when they affirmed the state’s longstanding position that pre-quickening abortions remained perfectly legal under the state’s abortion law, just as had been true throughout America at the founding.
With Alito’s mistreatment of Oregon revealed, the rest of his opinion crumbles. Many of the other state laws concerning abortion that Alito lists in his appendix used similar language—and were also understood to continue the founding-era tradition of permitting pre-quickening abortion (I describe those laws and how they were understood historically in this research paper https://papers.ssrn.co
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The Janes HBO tells the revelatory story of a group of unlikely outlaws. Defying the state legislature that outlawed abortion, the Catholic Church that condemned it, and the Chicago Mob that was profiting from it, the members of “Jane” risked their personal and professional lives to support women with unwanted pregnancies in the pre-Roe v. Wade era. Premieres June 8 on HBO Max.
The Janes 2022 rated 84 out of 100
https://www.metacritic.com/movie/the-janes
The Catholic user score for this documentary at metacritic is very low. Catholics on the Supreme Court also gave Roe v Wade a low score. The Religion of the Supreme Court Justices -- https://news.gallup.com/opinion/polling-matters/391649/religion-suprem
e-court-justices.aspx
The Janes 2022 rated 100% out of 100
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_janes
Download at https://yts.mx/movies/the-janes-2022
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Grandfather of armed man who wanted to kill Brett Kavanaugh says he is a 'good kid'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10901867/Grandfather-armed-ma
n-wanted-kill-Brett-Kavanaugh-says-good-kid.html
Federal agents raided Roske's Simi Valley, Commiefornia home
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Quote:Roske allegedly called 911 on himself after taking a cab to Kavanaugh's house. He apparently told emergency dispatchers what his location was, and that he was armed and was suffering from a need for 'psychiatric help'.
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Grandfather of armed man who wanted to kill Brett Kavanaugh says he is a 'good kid'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10901867/Grandfather-armed-ma
n-wanted-kill-Brett-Kavanaugh-says-good-kid.html
Federal agents raided Roske's Simi Valley, Commiefornia home
This a parody: New Law Safeguards 50 Million Children From Threats Of Gun Violence By Adding Them To Supreme Court
https://www.theonion.com/new-law-safeguards-50-million-children-from-t
hreats-of-1849040554
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In an effort to prevent further gun deaths among minors, Congress passed a new law Thursday safeguarding 50 million children from threats of gun violence by adding them to the Supreme Court. “This law will do the important work of protecting these kids from those who wish to harm them with guns by putting them on the bench of the U.S. Supreme Court,” said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), explaining the children would have the same 24/7 Secret Service detail that is offered to all justices, agents who are willing to take a bullet for the youth when they’re at the playground, a public pool, or school. “Now that these children are members of the highest court in the land, they will no longer have to worry about a rogue gunman taking their lives. This law could protect millions of children, as anyone who is found carrying a firearm in their near vicinity will be immediately detained and face criminal charges.” At press time, Pelosi emphasized that the children would be forced to recuse themselves in cases involving gun rights, due to a conflict of interest.
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Patrick S. Tomlinson @stealthygeek tweeted:
Whenever abortion comes up, I have a question I've been asking for ten years now of the "Life begins at Conception" crowd. In ten years, no one has EVER answered it honestly. 1/
7:34 PM · Oct 16, 2017·Twitter Web Client
https://twitter.com/stealthygeek/status/920085535984668672
It's a simple scenario with two outcomes. No one ever wants to pick one, because the correct answer destroys their argument. And there IS a correct answer, which is why the pro-life crowd hates the question. 2/
Here it is. You're in a fertility clinic. Why isn't important. The fire alarm goes off. You run for the exit. As you run down this hallway, you hear a child screaming from behind a door. You throw open the door and find a five-year-old child crying for help. 3/
They're in one corner of the room. In the other corner, you spot a frozen container labeled "1000 Viable Human Embryos." The smoke is rising. You start to choke. You know you can grab one or the other, but not both before you succumb to smoke inhalation and die, saving no one. 4/
Do you A) save the child, or B) save the thousand embryos? There is no "C." "C" means you all die.
In a decade of arguing with anti-abortion people about the definition of human life, I have never gotten a single straight A or B answer to this question. And I never will. 5/
They will never answer honestly, because we all instinctively understand the right answer is "A." A human child is worth more than a thousand embryos. Or ten thousand. Or a million. Because they are not the same, not morally, not ethically, not biologically. 6/
This question absolutely eviscerates their arguments, and their refusal to answer confirms that they know it to be true.
No one, anywhere, actually believes an embryo is equivalent to a child. That person does not exist. They are lying to you. 7/
They are lying to you to try and evoke an emotional response, a paternal response, using false-equivalency.
No one believes life begins at conception. No one believes embryos are babies, or children. Those who claim to are trying to manipulate you so they can control women. 8/
Don't let them. Use this question to call them out. Reveal them for what they are. Demand they answer your question, and when they don't, slap that big ol' Scarlet P of the Patriarchy on them. The end. 9/9
Because a lot of people are missing the point, it is not being argued the embryos are not alive. Nor is it being argued they are without value.
All that is being demonstrated is their value is not equal to that of a human child. That's it. That's the point.
Thank you to everyone in the comments twisting in the wind to find a way to avoid answering the question, just as I said you would. Your help proving my point is greatly appreciated.
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GOP Senators blocked a bill allowing women free rights to interstate travel.
The eight-page bill would make it unlawful for a person or a government official to prevent or punish traveling across state lines "to receive or provide reproductive health care that is legal in that State." It also would bar states from imposing laws that prohibit women from traveling to other states to get abortions.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/republicans-block-bill-prote
cting-women-travel-states-abortion-rcna38301
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GOP Senators blocked a bill allowing women free rights to interstate travel.
Ummmmm...
That's not what they did.
There's not a single American citizen that isn't under house arrest that isn't 100% free to travel to any state they wanted to at this very moment. They don't even need a passport!
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Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:Sending $40 billion or $40 trillion or $40 bazillion would NOT decrease what goes to other projects. Congress has infinite dollars.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Oh. BTW... have you explained to the blacks and Latinos how sending $40 Billion to Ukraine was in their best interests yet?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-signs-40-billion-dollars-ukraine-ai
d-south-korea-trip/
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"We will not rest, we will not weary until we abolish abortion nationally as unconstitutional under the 14th Amendment," Americans United For Life board member Chad Pecknold said.
https://twitter.com/ashtonpittman/status/1548017620384747521
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Quote:“I think states are not going to rest with just saying ‘there won’t be abortions in our state.’ I think they’re going to want to ban abortion for their citizens as much as they can, which would mean stopping them from traveling,” said David Cohen, professor at Drexel University’s Kline School of Law.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
There's not a single American citizen that isn't under house arrest that isn't 100% free to travel to any state they wanted to at this very moment. They don't even need a passport!
“We’re going to see state-against-state battles that are really going to divide this country even deeper on this issue,” he said.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/03/us-abortions-travel-wave
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Originally posted by second:Quote:“I think states are not going to rest with just saying ‘there won’t be abortions in our state.’ I think they’re going to want to ban abortion for their citizens as much as they can, which would mean stopping them from traveling,” said David Cohen, professor at Drexel University’s Kline School of Law.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
There's not a single American citizen that isn't under house arrest that isn't 100% free to travel to any state they wanted to at this very moment. They don't even need a passport!
“We’re going to see state-against-state battles that are really going to divide this country even deeper on this issue,” he said.
That doesn't change the facts. Nobody is prohibiting anybody from traveling.
Now traveling to get your baby murdered? Fine. But that's NOT what the intentionally poorly written article is claiming. And most people are stupid and only read the headline, which in this case is another complete fabrication.
In any event. I don't agree with it. There was nothing stopping me from taking the short jaunt across the border to Indiana to buy cheap cigarettes and gas back when I lived in Illinois many years ago. If I smoked weed today, there'd be nothing stopping me from driving the short distance to Illinois and buying a whole bunch legally and bringing it back home (as long as I wasn't recklessly driving and didn't get pulled over and searched when I got back to Indiana, at least).
My only dog in this race is that I don't want any state, local or federal tax dollars going to pay for the procedures. But that being said, I don't even agree with states making legislature completely banning the practice in the first place.
But this is the type of shit that happens when you go from Safe, Legal and Rare to downright celebrating it and living in a world where the grossest women alive are online keeping score of how many they've had.
Stop catering the the fucking wack-jobs on the far-left of the spectrum. Call out their bullshit. Don't allow them to continually normalize things like this.
Sanity is somewhere in the middle.
But Democrats have had the lunatics running things for well over a decade now and everybody is getting really fucking sick of their shit.
Even a lot of Democrats.
SPOILER ALERT: Not EVERYTHING is right when it comes out of the lips of somebody representing your Party. Your blind partisanship will be the undoing of the Democratic Party, possibly forever.
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Quote:Nice rant, 6ix, but I've heard it all before. Not from you, but from my brother-in-law and his younger brother. I wrote a rant about that only two day ago: http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64887&mid=11589
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
That doesn't change the facts. Nobody is prohibiting anybody from traveling.
Now traveling to get your baby murdered? Fine. But that's NOT what the intentionally poorly written article is claiming. And most people are stupid and only read the headline, which in this case is another complete fabrication.
In any event. I don't agree with it. There was nothing stopping me from taking the short jaunt across the border to Indiana to buy cheap cigarettes and gas back when I lived in Illinois many years ago. If I smoked weed today, there'd be nothing stopping me from driving the short distance to Illinois and buying a whole bunch legally and bringing it back home (as long as I wasn't recklessly driving and didn't get pulled over and searched when I got back to Indiana, at least).
My only dog in this race is that I don't want any state, local or federal tax dollars going to pay for the procedures. But that being said, I don't even agree with states making legislature completely banning the practice in the first place.
But this is the type of shit that happens when you go from Safe, Legal and Rare to downright celebrating it and living in a world where the grossest women alive are online keeping score of how many they've had.
Stop catering the the fucking wack-jobs on the far-left of the spectrum. Call out their bullshit. Don't allow them to continually normalize things like this.
Sanity is somewhere in the middle.
But Democrats have had the lunatics running things for well over a decade now and everybody is getting really fucking sick of their shit.
Even a lot of Democrats.
SPOILER ALERT: Not EVERYTHING is right when it comes out of the lips of somebody representing your Party. Your blind partisanship will be the undoing of the Democratic Party, possibly forever.
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To make a long story short, it never ends well for people who rant like you. For example, one step along the road to the ranting younger brother's doom was where he located his restaurant. I talked to him about how many other restaurants had failed at that exact same spot. He comes back with the reply that his establishment will be different. I tell him that restaurants serving Mexican food are NOT different. He replies that his will have an Irish bar! My reply was that jamming two ideas that frequently fail into one restaurant will not increases the chances of success. I did not invest in that restaurant because I couldn't trust that guy to correct himself when he makes a bad decision. The restaurant failed, but the younger brother would not admit failure until he was bankrupt. He could have shutdown at the end of his first lease, but he renewed in hopes that the next year his bad ideas would become good.
The now dead younger brother (who I will always remember as ranting and raving just like 6ix) drives home a lesson that people who think they are sane and competent, but do stupid things, are not sane no matter how loudly they insist they know what they are doing. 6ix, you only have two choices: Democrats or Republicans and I know perfectly well what the GOP is and who the people are that vote for Trump. On the other hand, Democrats are a mixture, some good, some bad. When I only have two choices, and I know for sure which choice will never admit they made a mistake, as in the case of that restaurant, I will go with the better choice. Until the USA establishes a third party that can get elected, rather than a two party system, the decision is easy.
It is easy to know where GOP stands on abortion. The GOP made a bad decision and it will never correct itself because "abortion is murder". It's not, but the GOP is crazy, exactly the same as the younger broth
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How the Supreme Court recalibrated the abortion debate in just 3 words
It's not just that US Supreme Court majorities upheld Mississippi's 15-week abortion ban and overturned Roe v. Wade. The opinion also skewed the crux of the conversation going forward -- with just three words.
"Unborn human being" is the term Associate Justice Samuel Alito adopted from the Mississippi statute, thereby replacing the key phrase in the landmark 1973 Roe ruling that spelled out a constitutional right to abortion: "potential life." It may seem like a semantic argument. Experts say it's anything but.
Alito didn't write God or Christianity or Bible anywhere in the opinion, but his justification is a veiled "religious narrative," said Rebecca Todd Peters, a religious studies professor at Elon University. By co-opting the language in Mississippi's law in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization, the majority opinion gives credence to the notion -- embraced largely by the religious right -- that life begins at fertilization, she said. The ruling has already emboldened several states to ban and criminalize the medical procedure in almost all circumstances.
"That is an enormous shift," Peters said. "It erases whole groups of people who have different religious beliefs."
Various religions have relied on a range of wayposts, including fertilization, quickening (when the mother feels the fetus moving), when the embryo develops a heartbeat, ensoulment and birth.
Confounding matters is that, just like in Christian sects, there are chasms of disagreement among other religions -- not only regarding personhood but also a woman's bodily autonomy -- making holy texts a troublesome barometer for whether abortion should be outlawed. Worse, said Peters, is that by co-opting the term, "unborn human being," it signals "which religious voices get authority and power in our country."
"We've allowed a minority religious belief to curtail the rights of the majority of women in the country. I feel like I'm in the middle of a dystopian novel."
More than 50 religious groups sought to make this clear to the high court last year, filing a friend-of-the-court brief explaining religious traditions have various views of when life begins, affirm a woman's "moral right" to decide when to terminate pregnancy and stand by "the importance of ensuring reproductive choice for women in marginalized communities who are disproportionately harmed by the ban."
"By prohibiting abortions beyond 15 weeks gestation, the Ban precludes women from making that choice in accordance with their own moral, spiritual, and religious beliefs, which this Court has recognized as a constitutional right," the brief said.
The attitude that a woman would have to justify her decision to others is "rooted in religion," Peters said. It robs women of their autonomy and espouses a narrow, archaic view of Christianity that has long been malappropriated to dictate "women are to be subservient and meant to be child bearers," she said.
Religions and religious people vary widely
A Gallup poll in May -- before Roe's reversal -- found 55% of Americans identified as "pro-choice," while 39% said they're "pro-life." Only 13% of Americans said abortions should be prohibited across the board, and 53% said abortions should be legal in most or all circumstances, Gallup reported.
Breaking the percentages down by dogma demonstrates only a handful of groups -- Jehovah's Witnesses (68%), Mormons (66%) White evangelical Protestants (65%), Hispanic Protestants (58%) and Hispanic Catholics (52%) -- count a majority of members as opposing abortion, the nonprofit Public Religion Research Institute found in 2018.
Catholics have long driven the debate on abortion -- and five Catholics and a justice who was raised Catholic upheld Mississippi's 15-week ban -- even as the institute's d
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Life does begin at fertilization, you dumb shit.
Science will tell you that. You don't need to believe in fairy tales.
For the so-called party of Trust the Science, you guys rarely ever do, do you?
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Nice rant, 6ix, but I've heard it all before. Not from you, but from my brother-in-law and his younger brother. I wrote a rant about that only two day ago: http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64887&mid=11589
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Only two day ago, huh? DURRRRR!
And " jamming two ideas that frequently fail into one restaurant will not increases the chances of success.".
What's wrong with you? Are you having a stroke?
You have to be married to have a brother-in-law. You're not married.
Second is a poorly written character.
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Quote:This restaurant sold both food and alcohol in the bar and needed both halves of the business to be successful. I can see that 6ix is under the same delusion as my brother-in-law's dead brother -- that if either food or alcohol is successful, the restaurant as a whole will be successful. The dead man couldn't understand, even while he was losing money steadily, that his restaurant would fail unless he got both halves of his business working as they should. Not to mince words, he was too stupid to run a business. 6ix, don't go into business. You're the same kind of guy who can't understand.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
And " jamming two ideas that frequently fail into one restaurant will not increases the chances of success.".
What's wrong with you? Are you having a stroke?
6ix, you also didn't understand what the Supreme Court did when it used the three words: "unborn human being". Once five Catholic Justices and a 6ixth Justice who was raised as a Catholic but became a Episcopalian, used those three words in their decision, inserting Catholic religious doctrine into United States law, it logically follows that any zygote, any embryo, any fetus is an "unborn human being" and therefore any abortion at any time is capital murder if a state legislature feels like declaring it to be murder. If Congress in DC decided to make it murder, Federal prosecutors in all 50 states and the territories would be filing federal murder charges against any woman who had an abortion. Oh well. Mistakes happen. Too bad if those three words "unborn human being" rip the country into pieces.
Quote:https://time.com/4045227/the-catholic-case-for-abortion-rights/
The Catechism contains only six paragraphs on abortion, including: “Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion. This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable.” . . . Many church officials and antichoice Catholics now focus on the argument that the fetus is a person from the moment of conception.
Quote:https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_c
Abortion
2270 Human life must be respected and protected absolutely from the moment of conception. From the first moment of his existence, a human being must be recognized as having the rights of a person - among which is the inviolable right of every innocent being to life.
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Nah. Read it again.
One of two things happened with you today.
1. You let Ted write your post.
OR
2. You had a stroke.
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Meanwhile, keep on posting your dumb shit man. Nobody cares.
Democrats are finished. You will never see them in power again in your lifetime.
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The Real Reason Why the GOP Is Passing Abortion Bans Without Exceptions for Rape
When did these exceptions start to fall out of favor among Republican lawmakers?
After Brett Kavanaugh was confirmed to the Supreme Court in 2018, you see this explosion of laws without rape or incest exceptions. This generation of laws — the so-called “heartbeat bills” — ban abortion at six weeks, and most did not have rape or incest exceptions. That’s a direct response to the changing of the Supreme Court. Previously, Republican legislators had a sense that pushing too hard on unpopular things like abolishing rape or incest exceptions could make it harder to reverse Roe. But they read Kavanaugh’s confirmation as a sign that Roe would go anyway.
The GOP has taken a extreme hardline stance against reproductive rights.
The GOP became much more beholden to the anti-abortion movement and much less concerned about competition because of a combination of political polarization, gerrymandering, limits on access to the vote. These are essentially one-party states. Republican politicians aren’t worried these positions will be unpopular with voters because voters wouldn’t elect Democrats anyway.
In other words, anti-abortion advocates stop hiding the ball.
In about half the country, maybe more, the GOP can just say whatever they want. Even if voters don’t like it, voters won’t actually do anything about it.
When the 10-year-old child in Ohio was raped and forced across state lines, Jim Bopp defended the idea that she should carry pregnancy to term. Jim Bopp had previously been the leading figure of the cautious, pragmatic wing of the movement. He had flown down to Ohio to testify against a heartbeat bill.
More at https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/07/10-year-old-girl-rape-ohio
-abortion-incest-life-exceptions.html
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LOL
Nobody cares about abortion dude.
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Quote:6ix, run a test. Stop going out. Stop eating. If anybody asks how you are, tell them you have never been better. Since Indiana is Trumptard country, 6ix, you will discover that nobody cares what happens to you, even your death, so long as you keep croaking out to them how great things are going for you while you slowly grow weaker and weaker from lack of food. I've heard the same story told over and over about East Texans who have given up the will to live. Nobody comes to save them. Nobody cares or even notices they died for months until their mail box is full, their grass isn't mowed, and they haven't paid their tax bills and the police search the house. That's how things go in Trumptard country. But at least the Trump-loving politicians are in total control of East Texas Trump country.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
LOL
Nobody cares about abortion dude.
6ix, start your weight-loss program! I have a warm and fuzzy feeling about how this ends for you -- in silence, slowly returning to the Earth the elements you were made from.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix, run a test. Stop going out. Stop eating. If anybody asks how you are, tell them you have never been better. Since Indiana is Trumptard country, 6ix, you will discover that nobody cares what happens to you, even your death, so long as you keep croaking out to them how great things are going for you while you slowly grow weaker and weaker from lack of food. I've heard the same story told over and over about East Texans who have given up the will to live. Nobody comes to save them. Nobody cares or even notices they died for months until their mail box is full, their grass isn't mowed, and they haven't paid their tax bills and the police search the house. That's how things go in Trumptard country. But at least the Trump-loving politicians are in total control of East Texas Trump country.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Nobody cares about abortion dude.
6ix, start your weight-loss program! I have a warm and fuzzy feeling about how this ends for you -- in silence, slowly returning to the Earth the elements you were made from.
Why on earth would I do any of that? I'm one of the only people in this country winning right now. Soon I get to buy all the used stuff that people bought on credit as they sell everything that isn't nailed down to buy food and put gas in their cars to get to work.
I'm also getting to witness the end of the Democratic Party right now.
You're losing more ground every day. Soon you will be irrelevant.
These are wonderful times. Keep that inflation coming Joe, and watch your entire Leftist agenda fall apart before your very eyes.
P.S. Unlike you toward me, I don't wish death on you, psycho. Please get some help before you hurt yourself.
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There’s a Way to Appeal Dobbs.
In Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, the U.S. Supreme Court jettisoned the guarantee of abortion care, triggering a cataclysm of state bans—and it did so while trivializing and dismissing the profound consequences for pregnant people. But the Supreme Court need not have the final word on the case.
By centering the human rights of those marginalized by the Supreme Court, counsel for the pro-choice litigants can effectively appeal the Dobbs decision: Counsel can file a petition with the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights, the multilateral body tasked with promoting human rights across the Americas. Even if the U.S. does not ultimately implement the commission’s ruling, bringing the case to this body could prove to be a potent strategy in the fight for reproductive justice.
The commission is more than 60 years old and based in Washington D.C., although domestic awareness of its existence and functions is minimal (by contrast, the commission is a household name in many Latin American countries). One of the body’s main functions is to adjudicate cases brought against member countries that have violated human rights standards. In general, a case is only admissible once the violating country’s highest court has rendered a decision; indeed, the commission is designed to be a forum of last resort.
If counsel files a petition, assuming it meets all of the technical requirements, the commission will review the Supreme Court’s decision, as well as the actions (and non-actions) of other government organs. The U.S. will submit multiple rounds of briefing trying to defend the country’s rollback of abortion care. The commission will then issue its own decision, explaining the pertinent human rights dimensions and likely ordering an array of remedial measures.
Although the U.S. regularly participates in commission proceedings, administrations of every political stripe have posited that the country is not bound by the body’s rulings. In all probability, the government will not treat the commission’s decision as legal authority, and there is no enforcement mechanism to compel implementation.
There are at least three reasons why counsel should consider bringing the case anyway.
First, a decision by the commission would help reframe access to abortion care from an issue of purported originalist interpretation to one of basic human dignity. Human rights standards seek to codify our innate and inalienable dignity—which the government cannot take away. The panoply of human rights supporting access to abortion care include the right to equality and non-discrimination; the right to health; the right to be free from torture and cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment; the right to enjoy the benefits of scientific progress; and the right to life (despite international lobbying efforts by anti-choice movements attempting to coopt this right). A ruling from the commission elucidating how the Dobbs decision violates these rights would provide normative validation that abortion bans are an affront to the inherent dignity of pregnant people. Such validation could help shore up resistance and serve as a bulwark against settling into the current reality as a “new normal.”
Second, the case could bolster recent commission jurisprudence and advocacy movements promoting access to abortion care throughout the Americas. While the international human rights system, on balance, has been explicit in supporting access to abortion care, Inter-American bodies have been relatively loath to confront the issue. Their circumspection tracks the refusal of several member countries to legalize abortion. In recent years, however, local advocacy efforts have brought about greater legalization in Mexico, Argentina and Colombia, among other countries. Progress at the national level has coincided with (and possibly emboldened) official statements and a case against El Salvador in which the commission squarely addressed governmental strictures on abortion. The commission explained that such strictures
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Republicans attack birth control, their next target
Preventive care such as birth control challenged in Texas lawsuit
The plaintiffs are represented by attorney Jonathan Mitchell, who is known as a key strategist behind the Texas abortion law passed in 2021 that bans abortions after 6 weeks of pregnancy. America First Legal Foundation, launched by former Trump administration official Stephen Miller, is also providing counsel.
"The plaintiffs seem perhaps extra motivated by the contraceptive requirement and coverage of services like PrEP," says Katie Keith, director of the Health Policy and the Law Initiative at the O'Neill Institute at Georgetown University.
More at https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/08/09/1115454627/preven
tive-care-such-as-birth-control-anti-hiv-medicine-challenged-in-texas-laws
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Indiana isn't Ireland, but it heading in that direction.
OB-GYN residents want to quit in Indiana after state's abortion law, harassment - August 15, 2022
https://www.npr.org/2022/08/15/1117605629/ob-gyn-residents-want-to-qui
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The Irish Lesson by Fintan O’Toole
If the purpose of abortion bans is to actually reduce the rate at which women terminate pregnancies, the Irish experience shows how utterly ineffectual they are.
August 18, 2022 issue
https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2022/08/18/the-irish-lesson-fintan-ot
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A crowd celebrating the repeal of the Eighth Amendment to the Irish Constitution, which had banned abortion, Dublin Castle, May 2018
In 1973, soon after the US Supreme Court established a right to abortion in Roe v. Wade, Charles E. Rice concluded that “the essential remedy to the abortion problem is a constitutional amendment.” Rice is an important figure in the intellectual history of the antiabortion movement that is now, with the recent overturning of Roe, enjoying its moment of triumph. He was a cofounder of the Conservative Party of New York State, formed by those who considered the Republican Party too liberal; one of his scholarly tracts is an attack on the Voting Rights Act of 1965. As a professor of constitutional law, he established Notre Dame University in Indiana as a redoubt of the conservative Catholic legal thinking whose influence most fully blossomed when Donald Trump appointed Rice’s colleague and associate Amy Coney Barrett to the Supreme Court.
But back in 1973 Rice despaired of the possibility that even a Republican-dominated Supreme Court would overturn Roe. He hoped instead for a constitutional amendment that would be “unequivocal” in outlawing both abortion and all forms of contraception that could be deemed to be “abortifacient”: “In order to prevent the licensing and legal distribution of abortifacients, the constitutional amendment on abortion must prohibit abortion at every stage beginning with the moment of conception.”
In the US, this was pure fantasy. The social and political conditions necessary for the passage of such a constitutional amendment did not exist. At the time, even evangelical Christians were reluctant to engage with the question of abortion, which they tended to see as a peculiarly (and suspiciously) Catholic obsession. But there was a place where Rice’s idea could be tried out: Ireland. In 1981 and 1982, when right-wing Irish Catholic activists were teasing out the wording of a proposed antiabortion amendment to the country’s constitution, Rice was the man whose advice and guidance they followed most closely. These campaigners sought and received Rice’s approval of the text that became, in 1983, the Eighth Amendment. For the Catholic conservatives who then seemed to be on the wrong side of US history, victory in Ireland was a harbinger of a possible American future. Now that they are, apparently, on the right side of American history, they might do well to remember that their Irish victory turned out to be pyrrhic.
These American conservatives were interested in Ireland partly because many of them (Rice included) were Irish Americans and partly because the old country offered the prospect of an easy win. As an example of preaching to the choir, sending conservative Catholic missionaries from the US to Ireland would be hard to better. Divorce was outlawed, not just by statute but in the text of the Irish constitution. The importation and sale of contraceptives was banned. The laws against “gross indecency” under which Oscar Wilde had been persecuted in England in 1895 were still in force in Ireland. Having or performing an abortion was punishable by life imprisonment.
Ireland was one place where the rot (as they saw it) of permissiveness had not yet set in. There was still, in the English-speaking world, one island of sanctity, one place where church and state were still so entwined that government could be relied on to enforce religious dogmas
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I already posted about this, stupid.
11 days ago.
August 6th: http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=65197
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Quote:You missed the point that Abortion is Murder. There is no compromising with Murder or Murderers. That is the end of the story, except when law enforcement starts treating Abortion as the same as Murder. After a delay of 50 years, and many arrests and deaths, Ireland amended its Constitution so that Abortion is NOT the same as Murder. To arrive at that sane place, there had to be story after story after story for decade after decade after decade before the Irish majority would undo what should have never have become the law of Ireland in the first place.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I already posted about this, stupid.
11 days ago.
August 6th: http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=65197
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Indiana is on the same path as Ireland, but Indiana is 50 years behind Ireland. Eventually, Indiana will very slowly figure out what the Irish figured out after 50 years of abortion laws demanding that all Irish live in a state of stupidity, nonsense, suffering and death.
Indiana becomes first state post-Roe to pass law banning most abortions
https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/05/politics/indiana-state-house-abortion-b
ill/index.html
The Indiana House and Senate passed the GOP-sponsored bill earlier Friday. Just "another radical step by Republican legislators to take away women's reproductive rights and freedom, and put personal health care decisions in the hands of politicians rather than women and their doctors."
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Originally posted by second:Quote:You missed the point that Abortion is Murder.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I already posted about this, stupid.
11 days ago.
August 6th: http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=65197
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I didn't miss that point. You just didn't put my whole quote. Allow me to put it here, with the pertinent part underlined:
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See Ted, Second and Cap'n?
THIS is how you show that you have half a brain and aren't some mindless mouthpiece for your corrupt party.
Indiana Republicans led by Holcomb really fucked the pooch here.
And it's not just political... I say all of this when you know full well what my PERSONAL opinions on abortion are regardless of what anybody on any point of the political spectrum thinks about them.
You know full well by now that I view abortion as murder. But we live in a society that for the most part doesn't agree with my opinion on this matter, so long as it's done early and it is safe, legal and rare.
I blasted the fuck out of Indiana Republicans in that post, as well as the post that came right after it. 11 whole days before you were even aware this was an issue.
Fuck Indiana Republicans. Fuck Eric Holcomb.
I voted against him.
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Quote:Republicans in the Texas Legislature agree with you.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You know full well by now that I view abortion as murder.
Texas’s penalty for rape is only 5+ years prison and a $10K fine, but under GOP’s new abortion ban, Texas’s penalty for providing an abortion to a woman impregnated by a rapist is life in prison and a $100K fine
Texas GOP: Protecting rapists, punishing doctors who support rape survivors
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Texas’ new law prohibiting all abortions from the moment of fertilization takes effect today.
Doctors now face life in prison and at least $100,000 in penalties if they perform the procedure.
https://www.texastribune.org/2022/08/25/texas-trigger-law-abortion/
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When Does Life Begin? As State Laws Define It, Science, Politics and Religion Clash
For decades, the U.S. medical system has adhered to a legally recognized standard for death, one embraced by most states. Why is a uniform standard for the start of human life proving so elusive?
After decades of deliberations involving physicians, bioethicists, attorneys, and theologians, a U.S. presidential commission in 1981 settled on a scientifically derived dividing line between life and death that has endured, more or less, ever since: A person was considered dead when the entire brain — including the brainstem, its most primitive portion — was no longer functioning, even if other vital functions could be maintained indefinitely through artificial life support.
Now, with the overturning of Roe v. Wade and dozens of states rushing to impose abortion restrictions, American society is engaged in a chaotic race to define the other pole of human existence: When exactly does human life begin? At conception, the hint of a heartbeat, a first breath, the ability to survive outside the womb with the help of the latest technology?
A legal and political maelstrom
That we've been able to devise and apply uniform clinical standards for when life ends, but not when it begins, is due largely to the legal and political maelstrom around abortion.
When life begins is up to whoever is running your state — whether you agree with them or not.
State legislators are eagerly bounding into that void, looking to codify into law assorted definitions of life that carry profound repercussions for abortion rights, birth control, and assisted reproduction, as well as civil and criminal law.
"The court said that when life begins is up to whoever is running your state — whether they are wrong or not, or you agree with them or not," said Mary Ziegler, a law professor at the University of California-Davis who has written several books on the history of abortion.
More at https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/08/27/1119684376/when-d
oes-life-begin-as-state-laws-define-it-science-politics-and-religion-clash
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If you had your way they'd be chopping off babies heads after they were born.
How many literal bodies do you have in your closet, psycho?
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According to many Republicans, human life begins at conception and ends at birth.
According to many left-wing authoritarians, many people aren't even human beings.
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Quote:The implied rights held by a legally recognized zygote are potentially vast. Will death certificates be issued for every lost pregnancy? Will miscarriages be investigated by a homicide detective? When will Social Security numbers be issued? How will census counts be tallied and congressional districts drawn? Even carpooling will change:
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According to many Republicans, human life begins at conception and ends at birth.
According to many left-wing authoritarians, many people aren't even human beings.
Pregnant Texas driver argues fetus is passenger after carpool fine
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220711-pregnant-texas-driver-a
rgues-fetus-is-passenger-after-carpool-fine
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Pregnant Texas driver argues fetus is passenger after carpool fine
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220711-pregnant-texas-driver-a
rgues-fetus-is-passenger-after-carpool-fine
We're going to watch you fantasize that men are women and women are men and nobody who isn't a Biologist that was brainwashed in Uni is even qualified to tell you what men and women are for the last 6 years and you think anybody is going to have a problem with this one?
The Democrats and the Legacy Media are the ones who have spent over half a decade warping reality while you cheered it on. Calling certain riots insurrections while calling other, far more dangerous riots causing hundreds of millions of dollars in property damage peaceful protests.
Don't be surprised then when nothing is real anymore.
That is your legacy.
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Trends have put Republicans from Michigan to Arizona on the defensive, forcing those in competitive races who have taken rigid stances against abortion rights to soften them or risk drawing the ire of a motivated segment of the electorate.
The latest example came from Arizona Senate candidate Blake Masters, who recently scrubbed his website of his support of a "federal personhood law" and a host of other strict anti-abortion positions. Masters' website previously said he was "100% pro-life" and noted his support for a constitutional amendment that "recognizes unborn babies are human being that may not be killed" and a slew of other legislation that would make it illegal to perform an abortion.
He is far from alone, however.
Michigan congressional candidate Tom Barrett reportedly branded himself "100% pro life -- no exceptions," a position he touted on the "values" section of his campaign website. "Protecting individual rights includes protecting the unborn," the website read, adding that he and his wife had "been involved in the pro-life movement our entire lives" and pledging that as an elected leader, he will "always work to protect life from conception."
The values section from the website was scrubbed after the Kansas election on abortion rights results.
The Republican party is "trying to mislead voters and hide their deeply unpopular positions on abortion rights. They know that voters are willing to hold responsible the people who take away their rights and they are concerned about their elections," said Christina Reynolds, a top operative at Emily's List, a Democratic organization that works to elect women who support abortion rights.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/29/politics/republicans-shift-abortion-pos
itions-general-election/index.html
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Trends have put Republicans from Michigan to Arizona on the defensive, forcing those in competitive races who have taken rigid stances against abortion rights to soften them or risk drawing the ire of a motivated segment of the electorate.
The latest example came from Arizona Senate candidate Blake Masters, who recently scrubbed his website of his support of a "federal personhood law" and a host of other strict anti-abortion positions. Masters' website previously said he was "100% pro-life" and noted his support for a constitutional amendment that "recognizes unborn babies are human being that may not be killed" and a slew of other legislation that would make it illegal to perform an abortion.
He is far from alone, however.
Moral of the story:
Republicans are capable of learning from their mistakes and don't continue to double down on them every fucking day like Democrats do.
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Quote:The immoral of the story is that Republican candidates will lie about their position on abortion, but once in office the Republican will declare that "Abortion is Murder" and vote for legislation outlawing all abortion.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Moral of the story:
Republicans are capable of learning from their mistakes and don't continue to double down on them every fucking day like Democrats do.
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In 1973, in Roe v. Wade, the Supreme Court recognized the constitutional right to abortion. That November, Laurence H. Tribe wrote the principal defense of the Court’s decision in the Harvard Law Review. Nearly twenty years later, his book Abortion: The Clash of Absolutes (1990) examined the never-ending debate over the subject. For nearly half a century he has pondered that debate’s relationships to gender equality, sexual identity, personal autonomy, notions of privacy and power, the culture wars, religion, and the place of the Court in American life.
Now, in “Deconstructing Dobbs,” from the Review’s Fall Books issue, Tribe analyzes the flawed legal reasoning the Court’s radicals used to strike down the right to abortion and considers the disastrous moral and political implications of the decision for women and for the Court as an institution.
Laurence H. Tribe “Deconstructing Dobbs”
Whether or not one sees the Supreme Court’s Dobbs decision as barely concealed theocracy, it fails to provide any coherent legal analysis of why the right to abortion is not protected by the Fourteenth Amendment.
September 22, 2022 issue https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2022/09/22/deconstructing-dobbs-laure
nce-tribe/
The chaos and cruelty unleashed in late June by the Supreme Court’s decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, which wiped out a half-century of constitutional protections for the reproductive rights—and thus the equal citizenship—of women in America, have been well documented. The ruling quickly led to a patchwork quilt of abortion bans differing from state to state and the prospect of new ones throughout the country, transforming what had been hypothetical scenarios into the stuff of nightmares.
They include tragedies like that of the ten-year-old rape victim in Ohio forced to travel across state lines to avoid compelled motherhood. The swarm of lawsuits challenging access to abortion pills by mail. The labyrinth of obstacles confronting those in states where abortion is now banned or heavily restricted who seek safe and legal out-of-state options for terminating pregnancies—for themselves or a patient, friend, or family member—including the knowledge that their travel and medical inquiries might be subject to surveillance and even obstruction or retaliation. The fear of health care professionals and pharmacists that providing treatments to preserve the life of someone undergoing a heartbreaking miscarriage could expose them to criminal prosecution for allegedly terminating a pregnancy. Not to mention the potential crippling of IVF procedures sought by couples who would otherwise remain childless.
As the dissent in the case—written jointly by Justices Stephen Breyer, Sonia Sotomayor, and Elena Kagan—pointedly observed, some states might “criminalize the woman’s conduct too, incarcerating or fining her for daring to seek or obtain an abortion,” and “as Texas has recently shown, a State can turn neighbor against neighbor, enlisting fellow citizens in the effort to root out anyone who tries to get an abortion, or to assist another in doing so.”
Dobbs was in no way the removal of the final brick in a steadily crumbling wall of protections for reproductive autonomy. The course of the law over the half-century separating Dobbs from Roe v. Wade (1973) had witnessed no erosion in the principles of personal liberty and equality that had been embodied in pre-Roe decisions. On the contrary, these principles had been continually extended during those years. Roe had built on decisions like Loving v. Virginia (1967), protecting interracial marriage; Griswold v. Connecticut (1965), affirming the right of married couples to engage in sex without risking procreation; and Eisenstadt v. Baird (1972), extending Griswold from married couples to all individuals, married or single. And Roe had in turn furnished the foundation for decisions like Lawrence v. Texas (2003), upholding the right of consenting adults to have sex with partners of any gender, and Obergefell v. Hodges (2015), affirming the right of peo
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Originally posted by second:Quote:The immoral of the story is that Republican candidates will lie about their position on abortion, but once in office the Republican will declare that "Abortion is Murder" and vote for legislation outlawing all abortion.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Moral of the story:
Republicans are capable of learning from their mistakes and don't continue to double down on them every fucking day like Democrats do.
lol
So now we're going to pretend that both parties don't do this about every issue before every election, are we?
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In 1973, in Roe v. Wade, the Supreme Court recognized the constitutional right to abortion.
No. That is not what happened.
There is no constitutional right to abortion. There never was. There was never an amendment made to the constitution either.
You've got the votes for the next 2 months. Pass it. What are you waiting for?
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Quote:It requires 3/4th of the states to pass a constitutional amendment making abortion a right. Sorry to tell you but 1/3rd of the states already banned abortion in the last two months.
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In 1973, in Roe v. Wade, the Supreme Court recognized the constitutional right to abortion.
No. That is not what happened.
There is no constitutional right to abortion. There never was. There was never an amendment made to the constitution either.
You've got the votes for the next 2 months. Pass it. What are you waiting for?
There are an infinite number of things people do that are not listed as a right in the constitution. If some religious group wanted to ban dancing, for example, a Supreme Court packed with 5 members of the Church of Christ could ban dancing. The Republicans packed the Supreme Court with 5 Catholics who were anti-abortion before they joined the Supreme Court. The 5 were asked during confirmation hearings in the Senate if they would overturn Roe v Wade and the 5 said they would NOT overturn Roe v Wade, but then they did.
Mennonite, Hutterite, Baptist, Seventh-day Adventist, Church of Christ, Restorationist, and Holiness movement sects ban dancing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dancing_ban
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Originally posted by second:Quote:It requires 3/4th of the states to pass a constitutional amendment making abortion a right. Sorry to tell you but 1/3rd of the states already banned abortion in the last two months.
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Originally posted by second:
In 1973, in Roe v. Wade, the Supreme Court recognized the constitutional right to abortion.
No. That is not what happened.
There is no constitutional right to abortion. There never was. There was never an amendment made to the constitution either.
You've got the votes for the next 2 months. Pass it. What are you waiting for?
I didn't say to make it an amendment.
But thank you for agreeing with me that there is no constitutional right to abortion by not arguing that point, thus making the entire article you posted following that statement pure horse shit.
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Quote:6ix, you completely misunderstood what you read. I will simplify for you: the constitutional rights are around 30, but there are millions of things people do that are not listed as a right. A dishonest and stubborn Catholic Supreme Court justice, for example, could therefore ban millions of things. That banning is based only on the personal preferences of Catholic justices, who are also intellectually dishonest, and is a political problem that can be solved by removing those justices. Supreme Court justices are not supposed to make decisions based on their religion. And the Senate is supposed to hold the justices to that standard of conduct, but it won't because half the Senators are Republicans.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:It requires 3/4th of the states to pass a constitutional amendment making abortion a right. Sorry to tell you but 1/3rd of the states already banned abortion in the last two months.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
In 1973, in Roe v. Wade, the Supreme Court recognized the constitutional right to abortion.
No. That is not what happened.
There is no constitutional right to abortion. There never was. There was never an amendment made to the constitution either.
You've got the votes for the next 2 months. Pass it. What are you waiting for?
I didn't say to make it an amendment.
But thank you for agreeing with me that there is no constitutional right to abortion by not arguing that point, thus making the entire article you posted following that statement pure horse shit.
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When these women lost their pregnancies, each ended up in jail.
More than 50 women have been prosecuted for child neglect or manslaughter in the United States since 1999 because they tested positive for drug use after a miscarriage or stillbirth.
The medical community calls this legal approach harmful and counterproductive. But it’s a strategy many legal experts say is likely to become more common now that Roe v. Wade has been overturned, making it easier for states to pass laws that give fetuses and embryos the same rights as children or their mothers.
An analysis of court records and medical examiner data over the last 23 years found at least 20 felony cases in Alabama, 14 in South Carolina and 10 in Oklahoma, as well as nine in other states where prosecutors have embraced some form of “fetal personhood” in bringing criminal charges after miscarriage or stillbirth. Many of the prosecutions resulted in lengthy prison sentences and life-altering consequences for mostly poor women who were struggling with addiction.
https://www.themarshallproject.org/2022/09/01/they-lost-their-pregnanc
ies-then-prosecutors-sent-them-to-prison
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Nope.
I'm not going to feel bad for addicts.
Nobody felt bad for me. They don't get special treatment just because our sex parts are different.
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A recent development that has made me feel depressed about the prospects for peace between religion and secularism is the overturning of Roe v. Wade by the United States Supreme Court. In doing so, the Supreme Court has overturned a precedent with which a significant majority (often cited to be at least 60%) of Americans agree. Whatever the legal merits of the court’s decision, there is little doubt that the buildup to this deeply regressive decision was driven primarily by a religious belief that considers life to begin at conception. It’s a belief without any basis in science; in fact, as Carl Sagan and Ann Druyan wrote many years, if you factored in science, then Roe v. Wade would seem to have drawn the line at the right point when the fetus develops a nervous system and really distinguishes itself as a human. In fact, one of the tragedies of overturning Roe v. Wade is that the verdict struck a good balance between respecting the wishes of religious moderates and taking rational science into account.
But Evangelical Christians in the United States, of which there has a been dwindling and therefore proportionately bitter and vociferous number in recent years, don’t care about such lowly details as nervous systems (although they do seem to care about heartbeats which ironically aren’t unique to humans). For them, all there is to know about when life begins has been written in a medieval book. Lest there be any doubt that this consequential decision by the court was religiously motivated, it’s worth reading a recent, detailed analysis by Laurence Tribe, a leading constitutional scholar. Lessig convincingly argues that the Catholic justices’ arguments were in fact rooted in the view that life begins at conception, a view on which the constitution is silent but religion has plenty to say.
The grim fact that we who care about things like due process and equality are dealing with here is that a minority of religious extremists continues to foist extremely regressive views on the majority of us who reject those views to different degrees. For a while, it seemed that religiosity was declining in the United States. But now it appears that those of us who found this trend reassuring were too smug; it’s not the numbers of the religious that have mattered but the strength of their convictions, crucially applied over time like water dripping on a stone to wear the system down. And that’s exactly what they have wanted.
https://3quarksdaily.com/3quarksdaily/2022/09/the-root-of-diverse-evil
.html
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Women Are So Fired Up to Vote, I’ve Never Seen Anything Like It
The pattern was clearest in states where abortion access was most at risk, and where the electoral stakes for abortion rights this November were the highest. The states with the biggest surges in women registering post-Dobbs were deep red Kansas and Idaho, with Louisiana emerging among the top five states. Key battleground states also showed large increases, including Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin and Ohio, which are all facing statewide races in which the fate of abortion access could be decided in November.
There is no precedent for an election centered around the removal of a constitutional right affirmed a half-century before. Every poll we consume over the closing weeks of this election will rely on a likely voter model for which we have no benchmark.
The stakes are high. Going into the midterms this fall, the G.O.P. need only gain six seats in the House and one seat in the Senate to retake control of those chambers
Several Republicans seem to be sensing that they’re in trouble. In Arizona, the Republican Senate candidate Blake Masters, an ardent abortion opponent, recently wiped language advocating extreme abortion restrictions from his website.
Whether the coming elections will be viewed as a red wave, a Roe wave or something in between will be decided by the actions of millions of Americans — especially, it seems, American women. As Justice Samuel Alito wrote in the majority decision in Dobbs: “Women are not without electoral or political power.” He was right about that. Republicans might soon find out just how much political power they have.
https://web.archive.org/web/20220904235348/https://www.nytimes.com/202
2/09/03/opinion/women-voters-roe-abortion-midterms.html
I’ve watched Americans in recent years acclimate to some very grim realities. Especially since the ascension of Donald Trump, numerous tragedies and extreme policies have been met with little political consequence: schools targeted by mass murderers, immigrants treated as subhuman and autocratic regimes around the globe affirmed as allies. While Mr. Trump did fail in his re-election bid, a swing of just over 20,000 votes in the three states with the narrowest margins would have produced a win for him, and Democrats hold razor-thin majorities in the House and the Senate. We will soon discover if American women adjust to the newest grim reality: the loss of the right to abortion. Are American women once again going to let the Republicans get away with it?
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Women Are So Fired Up to Vote, I’ve Never Seen Anything Like It
No they aren't.
It's rather telling when an article this full of the narrative can't make it out of the Opinion section of the NYT.
It doesn't matter if women are fired up to vote in NYC or any other shitlib city.
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Quote:Republicans’ chances of retaking the Senate majority are diminishing thanks to abortion.
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Originally posted by second:
Women Are So Fired Up to Vote, I’ve Never Seen Anything Like It
No they aren't.
It's rather telling when an article this full of the narrative can't make it out of the Opinion section of the NYT.
It doesn't matter if women are fired up to vote in NYC or any other shitlib city.
Public and internal polling data suggest that the GOP’s struggle to attract women voters may turn out to be the biggest obstacle standing between the party and a potential Senate majority in 2023. A Wall Street Journal poll released Thursday showed that abortion was the single issue most likely to drive respondents to vote this fall, above inflation. And 52 percent of white suburban women say they would support a Democratic candidate in the election, the poll found, while only 40 percent said they would vote for the Republican.
The environment has begun to neutralize, a shift largely attributable to women. Recent polling has shown Senate candidates neck and neck in Georgia, Nevada, North Carolina and Ohio, while Democrats appear to have sizable leads in Arizona, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/09/06/skeptical-female-voters-gop-s
enate-00054747
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Gov. Newsom Tells Biden He Will Not Run For President In 2024
https://www.ibtimes.com/gov-newsom-tells-biden-he-will-not-run-preside
nt-2024-3640564
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FBI Shriner Homosexuals waited until AFTER the Mid Terms to start doing their jobs?
FBI Offers Reward Over Firebomb Attack On New York Pro-Life …
https://vision.org.au/news/fbi-finally-acts-on-firebombing-of-pro-life
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Will it be Biden vs Trump once again?
https://www.thestatesman.com/opinion/will-it-be-biden-vs-trump-once-ag
ain-1503134455.html
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Texas state court throws out lawsuit against doctor who violated abortion law
The court’s ruling does not overturn the 2021 law, which banned abortions after about six weeks of pregnancy. It also does not impact the near-total ban on abortion that went into effect after the U.S. Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade.
by Eleanor Klibanoff Dec. 8, 2022
A judge in San Antonio has thrown out a lawsuit filed against a Texas abortion provider who intentionally violated a controversial state abortion law.
The law, known as Senate Bill 8, allows anyone to bring a lawsuit against someone who “aids or abets” in an abortion after about six weeks of pregnancy. On Thursday, state District Judge Aaron Haas in Bexar County said people who have no connection to the prohibited abortion and have not been harmed by it do not have standing to bring these lawsuits.
Thursday’s ruling sets an important precedent but does not overturn the law, said Marc Hearron, senior counsel for the Center for Reproductive Rights.
When SB 8 went into effect in September 2021, it was the most restrictive abortion law in the nation. The law banned abortions after the detection of fetal cardiac activity, usually around six weeks of pregnancy, a point at which many people don’t yet know they are pregnant.
Almost all of the clinics in the state immediately stopped providing abortions after about six weeks of pregnancy. The law’s unique civil enforcement mechanism made it difficult to challenge in court without a test case. Dr. Alan Braid, a San Antonio doctor who had provided abortions in Texas since Roe v. Wade was handed down in 1973, decided to intentionally violate the law to attract one of these private lawsuits.
“I wanted to make sure that Texas didn’t get away with its bid to prevent this blatantly unconstitutional law from being tested,” Braid wrote in an op-ed in The Washington Post.
Three lawsuits were filed against Braid immediately. Two were never formally served, Hearron said, but one, filed by a Chicago resident named Felipe Gomez, proceeded through the courts. Thursday’s ruling in the Gomez case is the first and only SB 8 case to be resolved in court. Hearron said he anticipated that Gomez, who represented himself, would appeal the decision.
Gomez could not immediately be reached for comment.
In addition to the six-week ban, which is civilly enforced, Texas is also operating under several criminal abortion bans that went into effect after the overturning of Roe v. Wade in June. Doctors who provide abortions in Texas can face up to life in prison.
In the wake of those laws going into effect, Braid closed his clinic in San Antonio, as well as its sister facility in Tulsa.
“It is heartbreaking that Texans still can’t get essential health care in their home state and that providers are left afraid to do their jobs,” Braid said in a statement. “Though we were forced to close our Texas clinic, I will continue serving patients across the region with the care they deserve at new clinics in Illinois and New Mexico.”
https://www.texastribune.org/2022/12/08/texas-abortion-provider-lawsui
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Lula da Silva withdraws Brazil from international declaration against abortion
https://www.riotimesonline.com/brazil-news/brazil/lula-da-silva-withdr
aws-brazil-from-international-declaration-against-abortion/
Tony Evers, Democrats push Republican leaders to add abortion poll to ballot. Here are the politics behind the move.
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2023/01/17/evers-democrat
s-push-gop-leaders-to-add-abortion-referendum-to-ballot/69812337007/
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Move Over Moses and Zoroaster: Manhattan Has a New Female Lawgiver
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/25/arts/design/discrimination-sculptur
e-madison-park-sikander-women.html
Minnesota: There is something wrong with people who celebrate this
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2023/02/there_is_something_wrong_
with_people_who_celebrate_this.html
‘Satanic golden medusa’ abortion statue outside New York City courthouse ruthlessly mocked: ‘Monstrosity’
https://www.foxnews.com/media/satanic-golden-medusa-abortion-statue-ne
w-york-city-courthouse-ruthlessly-mocked-monstrosity
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or maybe Second can post about Jehovas and Abortion here?
Most want abortion pill to remain available — CBS News poll
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/abortion-pill-cbs-news-poll-2023-04-16/
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The Press is Falling for Anti-Abortion “Fetal Heartbeat” Propaganda
Reporters are parroting — and spreading — sentimental falsehoods.
“Once a fetal heartbeat could be detected, typically around the sixth week of pregnancy … ”
When I read this phrase in the New Yorker, referring to Texas’s first abortion ban, I shot off a letter to the editor. “This is misleading,” I wrote. “There is no heartbeat at six weeks because the fetus does not yet have a heart. As San Francisco OB-GYN Dr. Jennifer Kerns told NPR: ‘What we’re really detecting is a grouping of cells that are initiating some electrical activity. In no way is this detecting a functional cardiovascular system or a functional heart.’” I noted that “a six-week fetus is about the size and shape of a baked bean.”
If the vaunted New Yorker copy desk could let this bit of anti-abortion bunk stand without comment, what was going on? I combed the media. Not just the National Review — which calls corrections like Dr. Kerns’s “mendacity” — or the Catholic press but also mainstream local and national news outlets including CNN, The Associated Press, Reuters, U.S. News & World Report, and PBS were parroting the same descriptor of the inaccurately — and of course strategically — named “fetal heartbeat” laws being debated or enacted in states from Idaho to Iowa, Georgia to New Hampshire.
The chorus resounded from websites, television, and radio from coast to coast: South Carolina was debating a law that “bans most abortions after early cardiac activity can be detected in a fetus or embryo, which can commonly be detected as early as six weeks into pregnancy”; in Georgia, a “law banning abortion when a fetal heartbeat is detected, typically around six weeks”; Nebraska’s legislature made an “unconventional move … after conservatives failed to advance a bill that would have banned abortion once cardiac activity can be detected — generally around six weeks of pregnancy.”
A number of the reports got it half right, adding that when the so-called heartbeat is first detected, many women do not even know they are pregnant.
More at https://web.archive.org/web/20230527101124/https://theintercept.com/20
23/05/27/abortion-fetal-heartbeat-propaganda-press-coverage/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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A Year After Dobbs, the Anti-Abortion Right Is Grilling Doctors on Tattoos, Tweets, and Too-Strong Beliefs
Unsatisfied with humiliating patients, the anti-abortion right is escalating a time-tested tactic: Make doctors grovel.
Judith Levine, June 24 2023, 6:00 a.m.
Some three hours into the 14-hour inquisition of Dr. Caitlin Bernard before the Indiana physician’s licensing board, the assistant attorney general asked her an odd question: “Do you have a tattoo of a coat hanger that says, ‘Trust women,’ on your body?”
It was hard to tell which part offended him more: the coat hanger or “trust women.”
Bernard’s attorney objected to the question as irrelevant. And legally speaking, it was. For the record, Bernard does have such a tattoo, on her left foot, inked years ago to remind her of life in the bad old days. She is not ashamed of it.
But the question was certainly not an opening for the doctor to express pride in her profession and her advocacy of reproductive health care. It was not meant to seek information. Nor was the query a misstep. The interrogator, Cory Voight, was on a mission to prove this respected OB-GYN unfit to practice medicine.
But, it seemed, even that was not enough. As the surrogate for his boss, the fiercely anti-abortion Indiana state Attorney General Todd Rokita, Voight wanted to tear the defendant down emotionally and in the eyes of the public. Asking a woman in a professional hearing about a mark on her body — using the word “body” — was part of a larger strategy, one long deployed by anti-abortion forces against abortion-seekers. Now they’re using it against providers and advocates as well. The strategy is humiliation.
Bernard’s trial, at the May 25 meeting of Indiana’s physician’s licensing board, was the latest chapter in Rokita’s yearlong smear campaign. In June 2022, just after the Dobbs decision triggered the misnamed “fetal heartbeat” abortion ban in Ohio, Bernard performed an abortion on a 10-year-old rape victim from that state. She told a local reporter the girl’s age, gestational stage, and state of origin, not her name or any other identifying details. She spoke again at a reproductive rights rally, warning that thousands of Indianans, including children, would be subject to similar, unnecessary trauma should the state pass an abortion ban in an upcoming special session. The case became national news. Bernard was celebrated as a hero.
Rokita was apoplectic. First, he circulated the calumny that Bernard had invented the patient. When it turned out the patient existed and a suspected perpetrator was arrested, Rokita cast around for laws Bernard might have broken. He came up with another false allegation — that she’d violated patient privacy and reporting laws — and petitioned the board to revoke her license. To do the job, Rokita sent the slimy-mouthed Voight. During the trial, many of his questions began, “Isn’t it true that …”
In another volley of questions, attempting to show that Bernard used the rape victim as a political tool, Voight declared, “No physician has been as brazen in pursuit of their own agenda.” “Brazen” is another one of those words, evoking “brazen hussy.” “She is unfit to practice medicine.” Morally unfit, that is.
More at https://web.archive.org/web/20230624102107/https://theintercept.com/20
23/06/24/dobbs-abortion-doctors-humiliation/
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The Controversial movie Blonde really wasn't so graphic comapred to the stuff you get on tv
'Full Frontal Nudity, Oral Sex and More: Why ‘Passages,’ ‘Blonde’ and 19 More Films Earned the NC-17 Rating'
https://variety.com/?post_type=pmc_list&p=1235385545
A 6,000-year-old Stone Age burial of a woman with a baby cradled in her arm was discovered in 2015 in the central Netherlands city of Nieuwegein.
It is the oldest infant burial ever found in the Netherlands.
In many eras, the absence of medical knowledge made childbirth a dangerous passage, reflecting a mother's love and courage for her child. The joy of new life often came with the shadow of risk, a testament to the enduring strength and resilience of mothers across ages.
https://twitter.com/Power_History/status/1690460379166461952
As the Greco-Persian Wars allowed for the dominance of Western politics, the following Peloponnesian Wars provided the basis for poles within Western politics.
Though both Greek, hyper-conservative Sparta and hyper-liberal (for the age) Athens were about as politically and morally opposite as two states could be.
And the concrete results of their fighting show us how these abstract moralities actually play out in reality
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In Backwoods USA, Mom Sentenced to Two Years In Prison for helping Daughter
Bill Haskell | September 24, 2023 7:30 am
https://angrybearblog.com/2023/09/backwoods-usa-mom-sentenced-to-two-y
ears-for-helping-daughter
US mother sentenced to two years in prison for giving daughter abortion pills, Backwoods and Out Houses USA, The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/22/burgess-abortion-pill-
nebraska-mother-daughter
This is not horrific. It is what happens to people when there is no way out. The horrific part is the state which forces people to take any means possible.
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Jessica Burgess, a Nebraska mother accused of helping her teenage daughter use pills to end her pregnancy, was sentenced on Friday to two years in prison.
Burgess and her daughter, Celeste Burgess, stand accused of working together to end Celeste Burgess’s pregnancy in April 2022.
According to prosecutors, after the pair bought pills to end the pregnancy, Celeste Burgess gave birth to a stillborn fetus. At the time, Nebraska law banned abortion after 20 weeks of pregnancy. Celeste Burgess’s pregnancy was well past that point, according to court records.
Police say that the Burgesses buried the fetal remains. An examination of the remains suggested they may have also been burned, according to court documents.
Jessica Burgess pleaded guilty in July to charges of false reporting, providing an abortion after 20 weeks of gestation, and concealing, removing or abandoning a dead human body. She was sentenced to one year in prison each charge, but the sentences for false reporting and tampering with human remains will run concurrently, with the sentence for the illegal abortion to served consecutively with the sentences for the other charges, a spokesperson for the Madison county courthouse said.
Celeste Burgess also took a plea deal and was sentenced to 90 days for concealing or abandoning a dead body earlier this year.
Although the case occurred before the US supreme court overturned Roe v Wade, it has been seen as a harbinger of how law enforcement may prosecute people for ending their own pregnancies in a post-Roe era – and how giant tech companies could go along with it.
Court documents in the case revealed that Facebook’s parent company Meta supplied police with the private Facebook messages that Celeste and Jessica Burgess had sent one another. In one message, Celeste told Jessica: “Remember we burn the evidence.”
Although most states do not ban people from inducing their own pregnancies – abortion bans typically penalize abortion providers, not patients – abortion rights advocates have long warned that if a prosecutor wants to target someone for a self-managed abortion, they will find a statute that is elastic enough to do so.
Celeste Burgess was released from Madison county jail earlier this month, after serving a little more than half of her 90-day sentence, local Nebraska news outlet KTIV reported. At her sentencing, Celeste Burgess said that her family could not have afforded a funeral for fetal remains, according to Courthouse News. (In a financial affidavit obtained by Vice, Jessica Burgess said she had $400 to her name.) Celeste Burgess also reportedly deals with multiple mental health issues and became pregnant due to an abusive relationship.
Jessica Burgess was set to undergo a court-ordered psychological evaluation ahead of her sentencing. But the evaluation was canceled due to lack of funding, according to KTIV.
Nebraska law now bans almost all abortions past 12 weeks of pregnancy.
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Planned Parenthood bus outside DNC sees eight abortion patients, does nine vasectomies
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/aug/22/planned-parenthood-bu
s-outside-dnc-sees-eight-abor/
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Abortion of Babies the number #1 Issue For USA Women?...but vaccine booster shots and you say no? how dare people control their bodies!
women raped by Biden and Harris's illegal aliens have abortion as their top issue, or if it's immigration or illegal invaders are part of peoples imagination...
and government must pay out!
the role of abortion of unborn kids or abortion votes on the ballot this election?
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/4929063-abortion-access-young-wo
men-voters-poll/
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Democrats lost, the party Aborts itself... have they learned today ...the hard way... that they need to talk about other things than OrangeMan bad or snuffing out the unborn in the womb
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Biden awards Medal of Freedom to Abort Woman, an Open Borders political woman the Abortionist
Richards has daddy issues, the daughter of the late Texas Gov. Ann Richards, left the Anti-reproductive child termination organization after leading its Abortions for 12 years.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-awards-medal-freedom-former-plan
ned-parenthood-president/story?id=116067740
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The USA is Aborting Itself?
and some crazy Feminists just seen it all like a Late Stage Abortion
A mistrial is declared in the murder case against Lindsay Clancy. Here’s what could happen next
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2026/09/05/lindsay-clancy-mistrial-what
s-next/
Who is Corie Walsh? US mom accused of killing 2-year-old son attempts suicide hours after texting about Lindsay Clancy
https://news24online.com/world/who-is-corie-walsh-us-mom-accused-of-ki
lling-2-year-old-son-attempts-suicide-hours-after-texting-about-lindsay-clancy-know-what-is-the-clancy-case/916217/
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