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THG
Sunday, October 9, 2022 5:59 AM (P)

'Holy moley': Legal experts believe FBI inquiry into possible Trump Tower stash related to looming 'criminal case'

There could be vast implications of a bombshell Rolling Stone magazine report published Friday, according to legal experts.

The magazine reported Federal Bureau of Investigation agents have questioned witnesses about whether government documents could be located at Trump Tower and other properties owned by the former president.

"The FBI, according to these sources, had also asked in recent months whether the ex-president had a habit of transporting classified documents from his Florida estate Mar-a-Lago to the other Trump properties. The feds specifically discussed both the New York City and Bedminster locations with certain witnesses," Rolling Stone reported.

A source said, "it was obvious they wanted to know if this went beyond just Mar-a-Lago."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/holy-moley-legal-experts-belie
ve-fbi-inquiry-into-possible-trump-tower-stash-related-to-looming-criminal-case/ar-AA12ITbp?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=81e83806a13849aa94a480642d09c74f




Yep, holy moley...

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Monday, October 10, 2022 6:44 PM (P)

Rolling Stone hasn't published an article worth reading since Hunter Thompson stopped writing for them.

We'll add this dumb bullshit the the pile of other crap you've presented in this thread that has burst into flames.

If only we could figure out a way to turn your gaslighting into heat. It would be the cheapest winter on record for America instead of the most expensive.



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Monday, October 10, 2022 7:55 PM (P)

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Rolling Stone hasn't published an article worth reading since Hunter Thompson stopped writing for them.

We'll add this dumb bullshit the the pile of other crap you've presented in this thread that has burst into flames.

If only we could figure out a way to turn your gaslighting into heat. It would be the cheapest winter on record for America instead of the most expensive.

Speaking bullshit, Trump gave conflicting defenses about the Mar-a-Lago raid at a campaign rally on October 9, 2022 in Mesa, Arizona.

He said the FBI should give back what was taken, while also claiming material was planted.

Trump has baselessly sought to portray the raid as part of a plot against him.

https://sports.yahoo.com/trump-gave-conflicting-defenses-mar-112159722
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, October 10, 2022 7:57 PM (P)

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THG
Monday, October 17, 2022 3:53 AM (P)

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Very true but they'll say they need them because the dems will make shit up. Who won't see through that? forever Trumpers that's who. Their still sending the asshole money. Too funny...

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THG
Friday, October 21, 2022 12:42 AM (P)




Trump will be indicted probably in November. Right after the election

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Friday, October 21, 2022 3:02 AM (P)

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Trump will be indicted probably in November. Right after the election

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No he won't.

Jobama will be impeached though.



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THG
Monday, October 24, 2022 4:17 AM (P)

Former longtime Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg expected to be star witness in company's tax fraud trial

Weisselberg, who has long been one of Trump's most loyal deputies, pleaded guilty in August to 15 felony counts, including a scheme to defraud, conspiracy, grand larceny, and criminal tax fraud, in exchange for a maximum five-month jail sentence.

Under the plea's conditions, Weisselberg — a loyal, 40-year bookkeeper for Trump and his family —agreed to testify in the upcoming trial.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/former-longtime-trump-organi
zation-cfo-allen-weisselberg-expected-to-be-star-witness-in-company-s-tax-fraud-trial/ar-AA13hKNn?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=2e234800c53441ccb6e6491619727e29




And this is the least of Trumps problems.

tick tock

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Monday, October 24, 2022 6:24 AM (P)

Oh boy! Oh boy! THIS IS THE ONE!!!!



Idiot.

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THG
Thursday, October 27, 2022 3:53 AM (P)

Former FBI counsel says DOJ's Trump
investigation appears much further along than previously thought

Andrew Weissmann, the former counsel of the FBI and prosecutor for Robert Mueller's special counsel team, said that recent reports that the FBI is questioning more and more people suggests that the investigation into the classified documents at Mar-a-Lago is moving much quicker than previously understood.

On a panel with former FBI assistant director for counterintelligence, Frank Figliuzzi, Weissmann explained that the fact that the Justice Department is seeking information from Trump's personal valet, Walt Nauta and the Presidential Records Act appointed aide Kash Patel "is a real sign that the investigation is way past the beginning stages."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/former-fbi-counsel-says-doj-s-
trump-investigation-appears-much-further-along-than-previously-thought/ar-AA13nd8Q?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=038160b2035f49e3912e808032c72c54





tick tock

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THG
Thursday, October 27, 2022 4:07 AM (P)

Another member of Trump’s inner circle reportedly takes the Fifth

Kash Patel first came to national attention during Donald Trump’s first impeachment scandal. Fiona Hill, the former top Russia expert at the White House National Security Council, told Congress that she discovered that Donald Trump was ignoring the NSC’s Ukraine expert, choosing instead to listen to Patel — which struck Hill as quite odd.



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Thursday, October 27, 2022 8:55 AM (P)

Trump will be fine.

He will also be your next President.




P.S. You're about to lose the Senate and House, bigly. Your boy Joe* is getting impeached and the world is going to know what was on his crackhead son's laptop.

We already know what's on there because it was leaked. I can't wait for you to find out what was on there.



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THG
Monday, November 14, 2022 10:46 PM (P)

Trump Org criminal tax-fraud trial could hinge on 3 words

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-organization-tax-fraud-trial-upd
ates-2022-10




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THG
Monday, November 14, 2022 10:46 PM (P)

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Trump will be fine.

He will also be your next President.




P.S. You're about to lose the Senate and House, bigly. Your boy Joe* is getting impeached and the world is going to know what was on his crackhead son's laptop.

We already know what's on there because it was leaked. I can't wait for you to find out what was on there.







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THG
Monday, November 14, 2022 11:11 PM (P)

Court files show evidence Trump handled records marked classified after presidency

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/court-files-show-evidence-trum
p-handled-records-marked-classified-after-presidency/ar-AA144NPx?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=0cdd53f93b4f4a37bd2e49fa003adbe8




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THG
Monday, November 21, 2022 10:36 PM (P)

Manhattan Prosecutors Again Consider a Path Toward Charging Trump

The Manhattan district attorney’s office has moved to jump-start its criminal investigation into Donald J. Trump, according to people with knowledge of the matter, seeking to breathe new life into an inquiry that once seemed to have reached a dead end.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/manhattan-prosecutors-again-co
nsider-a-path-toward-charging-trump/ar-AA14mnft?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=664d828c5a6144098e680e31d34439cb




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Monday, November 21, 2022 10:56 PM (P)

It is never going to happen, Ted.

NEVER

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Monday, November 21, 2022 11:09 PM (P)

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Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Trump will be fine.

He will also be your next President.




P.S. You're about to lose the Senate and House, bigly. Your boy Joe* is getting impeached and the world is going to know what was on his crackhead son's laptop.

We already know what's on there because it was leaked. I can't wait for you to find out what was on there.







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Read this idiot.

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65372&mid=11650
98#1165098


You've got a very short amount of time to demand that your party leadership close the loopholes they opened for everyone to abuse. I know that you never read an article by somebody or by a site that you don't agree with, but they're all now saying what I have been saying. That they need to cheat now too and they can do it better than you can.

Unless Democrats close the loophole now and put Republicans in a hypocritical position if they try to re-open them, you're never going to be able to cheat better than they can.



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THG
Monday, November 21, 2022 11:50 PM (P)

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I Expect Trump Will Be Indicted By This Special Counsel

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Tuesday, November 22, 2022 1:10 AM (P)

lol

How many times are you going to let them lie to you, Ted?

Are you so fucking dumb that you forget they've been telling you the same thing for 6 years now?



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THG
Wednesday, November 23, 2022 12:56 AM (P)

The Supreme Court just ruled Trump has to give his tax records to congress.

tick tock

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Wednesday, November 23, 2022 1:16 AM (P)

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The Supreme Court just ruled Trump has to give his tax records to congress.

tick tock

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Yeah. So what?

The IRS already knows what's in them.

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THG
Wednesday, November 23, 2022 1:21 AM (P)

Trump rebuffed by judge in New York fraud lawsuit, trial date set

NEW YORK (Reuters) - A New York judge has scheduled an October 2023 trial for former U.S. President Donald Trump, three of his adult children and the Trump Organization in a lawsuit brought by New York Attorney General Letitia James accusing them of fraudulently overvaluing the real estate company's assets and Trump's net worth.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-rebuffed-by-judge-in-new
-york-fraud-lawsuit-trial-date-set/ar-AA14quxq?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=6f795f7402ff42b291d937093eb237eb




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Wednesday, November 23, 2022 1:22 AM (P)

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Trump rebuffed by judge in New York fraud lawsuit, trial date set

NEW YORK (Reuters) - A New York judge has scheduled an October 2023 trial for former U.S. President Donald Trump, three of his adult children and the Trump Organization in a lawsuit brought by New York Attorney General Letitia James accusing them of fraudulently overvaluing the real estate company's assets and Trump's net worth.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-rebuffed-by-judge-in-new
-york-fraud-lawsuit-trial-date-set/ar-AA14quxq?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=6f795f7402ff42b291d937093eb237eb




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Okay. So another desperation move by Democrats that will fail like all of the rest of them have for 6 years.

Got it.

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Thursday, November 24, 2022 6:34 AM (P)

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Thursday, November 24, 2022 10:36 AM (P)

Trump's fine.



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Thursday, November 24, 2022 5:39 PM (P)

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Trump's fine.

Maybe Trump is fine, but his lawyers aren't having their best days. Trump should fire them or, better, let the lawyers think they will be paid then Trump refuses to write the checks for the full amount. He deserves at least a 50% discount from his lawyers:

Trump's lawyers suffered humiliating defeats in courtrooms across the country that put him on track to have his personal taxes exposed, see his company dismantled, face a trial for alleged rape, and confront the unencumbered power of the Department of Justice.

It was setback after setback for the former president's lawyers, who would have struggled to keep up with all the bad news hour by hour—just as journalists struggled to keep track of all the updates and court appearances on Tuesday.

Covering the cascade of legal clashes forced this reporter to shuttle between two courthouses on New York’s Centre Street and step out of live testimony for courtroom teleconferences in two different states, while the Supreme Court also ruled that Congress had a right to Trump’s tax returns.

In the midst of this maelstrom of legal trouble, the real estate mogul’s longtime personal accountant completely disavowed the company’s financial shenanigans, saying if he’d known the way executives were dodging taxes for years, he would have died of shock. “I probably would've had a heart attack,” Donald Bender testified in Manhattan criminal court, where the Trump Organization is defending itself at trial against the District Attorney’s Office.

More at https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trumps-legal-problems-all-converg
ed-into-one-day-of-spectacular-failures


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, November 24, 2022 6:04 PM (P)

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Trump's fine.

Alina Habba, the same Trump defense lawyer who sparred with a state judge earlier in the day, surprised the court by revealing that she’s not even sure if she’ll continue to represent Trump on the Carroll case.

“I have not even been retained on that matter,” she said. “I do not know if I’m going to be retained on that matter.”

At that, U.S. District Judge Lewis A. Kaplan revealed he had run out of patience.

“Your client has known this is coming for months, and he would be well advised to decide who’s representing him in it,” he admonished in a sharp tone.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trumps-legal-problems-all-converg
ed-into-one-day-of-spectacular-failures


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, November 24, 2022 6:16 PM (P)

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Trump's fine.

Just when it seemed as if things couldn’t get any worse for Trump on Tuesday, the former president’s longtime trusted personal accountant plunged a knife into his back at 3:55 p.m.

Donald Bender, who stuck with Trump and the Trump Organization even as he worked at several different accounting firms, testified against the former president’s eponymous family company in Manhattan criminal court.

Bender prepared taxes for the Weisselbergs and the Trumps — including company executives Don Jr., Ivanka, Eric. He was technically a witness for the Trump Organization, claiming incredulously that he had reviewed all the books but somehow had no idea executives were doing this for years. But prosecutors tore that down as the sunset’s orange glow began to fill the courtroom.

Unlike the Trump Organization employees who testified before him, this accountant wasn’t going down with the ship. The global accounting company where Bender maintains his practice, Mazars USA, decided to ditch the Trump Organization earlier this year and disavow any of its financial statements. This week, Bender did the same on the witness stand.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trumps-legal-problems-all-converg
ed-into-one-day-of-spectacular-failures


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, November 24, 2022 7:01 PM (P)

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Trump's fine.

Just when it seemed as if things couldn’t get any worse for Trump on Tuesday, the former president’s longtime trusted personal accountant plunged a knife into his back at 3:55 p.m.



Oh... How dramatic. What a bombshell.

The walls are closing in on Trump for sure.



Trump will be fine.

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Sunday, November 27, 2022 8:59 PM (P)

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Trump's fine.

Just when it seemed as if things couldn’t get any worse for Trump on Tuesday, the former president’s longtime trusted personal accountant plunged a knife into his back at 3:55 p.m.

Donald Bender, who stuck with Trump and the Trump Organization even as he worked at several different accounting firms, testified against the former president’s eponymous family company in Manhattan criminal court.

Bender prepared taxes for the Weisselbergs and the Trumps — including company executives Don Jr., Ivanka, Eric. He was technically a witness for the Trump Organization, claiming incredulously that he had reviewed all the books but somehow had no idea executives were doing this for years. But prosecutors tore that down as the sunset’s orange glow began to fill the courtroom.

Unlike the Trump Organization employees who testified before him, this accountant wasn’t going down with the ship. The global accounting company where Bender maintains his practice, Mazars USA, decided to ditch the Trump Organization earlier this year and disavow any of its financial statements. This week, Bender did the same on the witness stand.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trumps-legal-problems-all-converg
ed-into-one-day-of-spectacular-failures





'If I were Lindsey Graham, I'd be incredibly worried' after grand jury appearance: former GA lawmaker

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/if-i-were-lindsey-graham-i-d-b
e-incredibly-worried-after-grand-jury-appearance-former-ga-lawmaker/ar-AA14BVoC?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=33ce19fc6b4a41b580bec508781a5c63




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THG
Wednesday, November 30, 2022 3:26 AM (P)

Stewart Rhodes found guilty in seditious conspiracy trial

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/stewart-rhodes-fou
nd-guilty-seditious-conspiracy-trial-rcna59275


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Wednesday, November 30, 2022 6:39 PM (P)

Trump might have to face his worst nightmare — a D.C. jury

Federal prosecutors on Tuesday, under the direction of newly appointed Special Counsel Jack Smith, argued to the 11th Circuit Court that they should immediately shut down the Special Master process created by Judge Aileen Cannon.

Under that process, former President Donald Trump has the opportunity to challenge the search warrant executed at his office and residence long before he is indicted. Virtually no other criminal defendant has ever been given that opportunity.

The Oral Argument Shows That The 11th Circuit Is Likely To Reverse

Based on the oral argument, it appears that the 11th Circuit is about to bring the curtain down on the sideshow that Judge Cannon created. The three judges on the panel (two appointed by Trump, one appointed by George W. Bush) expressed extreme skepticism that Judge Cannon had the jurisdiction to take any action before indictment and, even if she did, that she had a factual predicate to have enjoined the Justice Department and appointed a Special Master.

More at https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-might-have-to-face-his-worst-night
marea-dc-jury


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, November 30, 2022 7:28 PM (P)

Trump will be fine.



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Wednesday, November 30, 2022 7:42 PM (P)

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Trump will be fine.

General John Kelly—Trump’s former chief of staff—publicly stated that the former president demanded that the IRS conduct audits of his perceived enemies, including former FBI Director James Comey and former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe.

If Trump made this demand while he was president, that is an unambiguous felony. Section 7217 of Title 26 of the United States Code makes it a crime for the “President” to “request, directly or indirectly, any officer or employee of the Internal Revenue Service to conduct or terminate an audit or other investigation of any particular taxpayer with respect to the tax liability of such taxpayer.”

A president who unlawfully seeks to have an individual audited is subject to up to five years in prison. The crime does not require that the IRS actually carry out the audit. The crime is completed with the mere request.

Here, however, there is strong evidence that Trump’s illegal demand was actually carried out. As reported earlier this summer, both Comey and McCabe were subjected to highly unusual IRS audits. The odds of an individual randomly being subjected to this type of audit are similar to being struck by lightning.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-might-have-to-face-his-worst-night
marea-dc-jury


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, November 30, 2022 7:48 PM (P)

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Here, however, there is strong evidence that Trump’s illegal demand was actually carried out. As reported earlier this summer, both Comey and McCabe were subjected to highly unusual IRS audits. The odds of an individual randomly being subjected to this type of audit are similar to being struck by lightning.



I've been audited. I haven't been struck by lightning.

They'd better have video evidence or legitimate signed documentation of Trump making that order, or this is one more lie that will go nowhere and make morons like you even more rabid when it fails, like everything else you've tried to do to Trump fails.



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Wednesday, November 30, 2022 8:15 PM (P)

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Here, however, there is strong evidence that Trump’s illegal demand was actually carried out. As reported earlier this summer, both Comey and McCabe were subjected to highly unusual IRS audits. The odds of an individual randomly being subjected to this type of audit are similar to being struck by lightning.



I've been audited. I haven't been struck by lightning.

They'd better have video evidence or legitimate signed documentation of Trump making that order, or this is one more lie that will go nowhere and make morons like you even more rabid when it fails, like everything else you've tried to do to Trump fails.



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Richard Nixon ordered the IRS to audit his enemies, which is why Congress and President Ford, Nixon's replacement, made it illegal. That law doesn't automatically enforce itself. If the prosecutors don't enforce it because Trump and his defenders falsely swear it never happened then Trump doesn't go to jail. It is a very silly legal setup when criminals can go free based upon how many liars the criminal can afford to hire to swear to the criminal's innocence, but that's the silliness designed by lawyers to protect those who have a lot of money, enough to buy as many perjurers as needed to sway at least one juror.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, November 30, 2022 8:20 PM (P)

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Here, however, there is strong evidence that Trump’s illegal demand was actually carried out. As reported earlier this summer, both Comey and McCabe were subjected to highly unusual IRS audits. The odds of an individual randomly being subjected to this type of audit are similar to being struck by lightning.



I've been audited. I haven't been struck by lightning.

They'd better have video evidence or legitimate signed documentation of Trump making that order, or this is one more lie that will go nowhere and make morons like you even more rabid when it fails, like everything else you've tried to do to Trump fails.



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Richard Nixon ordered the IRS to audit his enemies, which is why Congress and President Ford, Nixon's replacement, made it illegal. That law doesn't automatically enforce itself.



Not pertinent to our discussion.

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If the prosecutors don't enforce it because Trump and his defenders falsely swear it never happened then Trump doesn't go to jail.


I know you hate the freedoms and rights that Americans have, but here in America you are innocent until proven guilty.

So once again I won't be reading the rest of your post because your brain is damaged and I don't bother trying to have real discussions with retarded people.

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Wednesday, November 30, 2022 8:48 PM (P)

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I know you hate the freedoms and rights that Americans have, but here in America you are innocent until proven guilty.

So once again I won't be reading the rest of your post because your brain is damaged and I don't bother trying to have real discussions with retarded people.

You have just explained why Trumptards and 6ixStringJack have had many failures in life. Trumptards refuse to admit they have done wrong and, therefore, don't correct themselves to avoid more failures. Their wife divorces them because they committed adultery and the Trumptard will deny they committed adultery. The Trumptard gets fired for embezzlement and the Trumptard will continue denying the money was stolen. Despite all of the Trumptard's denials, their marriage is over and their job has ended, along with their income, but until death, the Trumptard can continue to say they are innocent because nobody proved to the satisfaction of the Trumptard that they were guilty. Sadly, the Trumptards will get married and divorced more than once because they didn't learn their lesson. And the Trumptards will get hired and fired, again, because they didn't learn. Why should they learn? They are always innocent and the hero of their stories -- at least in their own mind.

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Wednesday, November 30, 2022 8:50 PM (P)

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I know you hate the freedoms and rights that Americans have, but here in America you are innocent until proven guilty.

So once again I won't be reading the rest of your post because your brain is damaged and I don't bother trying to have real discussions with retarded people.

You have just explained why Trumptards and 6ixStringJack have had many failures in life. Trumptards refuse to admit they have done wrong and, therefore, don't correct themselves to avoid more failures.



I await you going back through your post history and presenting the class with all the times you've ever admitted you've ever done wrong or ever were wrong.

I won't hold my breath because it never happened.

Meanwhile, there's plenty of evidence of me admitting to my shortcomings and failures on this board, and subsequently learning from my mistakes, fixing things that I could, and realizing the fact that there are some things you just can't fix, making peace with that fact, and moving on.

That being said... Get fucked, liar. Look in a mirror. All of your baseless charges you've ever put against anyone here are simply projections of your own guilt for being a walking and talking piece of human garbage. You are doomed to die a failure at life because you never take a look at yourself and you are exactly the same shitty person you were when I stopped drinking just one month shy of 6 years ago.

You are a waste of carbon.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I await you going back through your post history and presenting the class with all the times you've ever admitted you've ever done wrong or ever were wrong.

I won't hold my breath because it never happened.

Meanwhile, there's plenty of evidence of me admitting to my shortcomings and failures on this board, and subsequently learning from my mistakes, fixing things that I could, and realizing the fact that there are some things you just can't fix, making peace with that fact, and moving on.

That being said... Get fucked, liar. Look in a mirror. All of your baseless charges you've ever put against anyone here are simply projections of your own guilt for being a walking and talking piece of human garbage. You are doomed to die a failure at life because you never take a look at yourself and you are exactly the same shitty person you were when I stopped drinking just one month shy of 6 years ago.

You are a waste of carbon.

Trump is crook. That doesn't bother Trumptards. What bothers them is the accusation because they are crooks, too. But you're not in jail. Neither is Trump. He has gotten away with it as have you. There have been a few losses along the way: 6ix lost years. Trump lost money by being an incompetent businessman. Water under the bridge. You can't stop writing "Trump will be fine" because he is you, except famous. The fame is why a prosecutor will indict Trump.

In other news: House committee receives Donald Trump’s federal tax returns from IRS
By Katelyn Polantz, CNN Reporter, Crime and Justice
Updated 4:46 PM EST, Wed November 30, 2022
https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/30/politics/house-ways-and-means-committee
-now-has-donald-trumps-federal-tax-returns/index.html
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An expansive New York Times report in 2020 found that Trump paid no federal income taxes whatsoever in 10 out of 15 years beginning in 2000 because he reported losing significantly more than he made.
In the years he paid, he paid only $750, which is not nothing. Kudos to Trump!

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Thursday, December 1, 2022 4:47 AM (P)

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I await you going back through your post history and presenting the class with all the times you've ever admitted you've ever done wrong or ever were wrong.

I won't hold my breath because it never happened.

Meanwhile, there's plenty of evidence of me admitting to my shortcomings and failures on this board, and subsequently learning from my mistakes, fixing things that I could, and realizing the fact that there are some things you just can't fix, making peace with that fact, and moving on.

That being said... Get fucked, liar. Look in a mirror. All of your baseless charges you've ever put against anyone here are simply projections of your own guilt for being a walking and talking piece of human garbage. You are doomed to die a failure at life because you never take a look at yourself and you are exactly the same shitty person you were when I stopped drinking just one month shy of 6 years ago.

You are a waste of carbon.

Trump is crook. That doesn't bother Trumptards. What bothers them is the accusation because they are crooks, too. But you're not in jail. Neither is Trump. He has gotten away with it as have you. There have been a few losses along the way: 6ix lost years. Trump lost money by being an incompetent businessman. Water under the bridge. You can't stop writing "Trump will be fine" because he is you, except famous. The fame is why a prosecutor will indict Trump.



What on earth are you babbling about in attempt not to look at what a piece of shit you are this time?

I'm a crook now, huh? That's rich. I suppose you have no evidence of that either, do you dumbass?



You really need to look at yourself and fix yourself before you run out of time, old man. Tick Tock.


Meanwhile, in real life... Trump will be fine.

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Saturday, December 3, 2022 4:33 AM (P)

Two of Donald Trump’s top White House lawyers appeared before at least one grand jury Friday, visiting the federal courthouse in Washington, D.C. amid multiple criminal probes involving the former president.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-s-legal-woes-just-keep-p
iling-up/ar-AA14PUhY?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=2aa202da795e4330aca4c87c16770281




Oh no

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Oh no! You got him this time!!!!



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Saturday, December 3, 2022 6:19 AM (P)

So, clarify this for me, THUGR: Is Trump on trial?
I don't think so.

In the meantime, you've been thumping this thread for over three years, 23 pages, and numerous allegations and false hopes (on your part).

Let me know when I should start taking this seriously, m'kay?

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THE WALLS ARE CLOSING IN!!!!!!!!!!

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Sunday, December 4, 2022 1:55 AM (P)

tick tock

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Sunday, December 4, 2022 2:00 AM (P)

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Supreme Court again rejects Trump’s bid to shield tax returns, other financial records from Manhattan prosecutor

The Supreme Court on Monday rejected former president Donald Trump’s last-chance effort to keep his private financial records from the Manhattan district attorney, ending a long and drawn-out legal battle.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/supreme-court-again-rejects-tr
ump-s-bid-to-shield-tax-returns-other-financial-records-from-manhattan-prosecutor/ar-BB1dUinR?ocid=msedgntp


tick tock mother f!#ker.

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Rep. Lloyd Doggett (D-TX) says that congressional investigators are currently going through former President Trump's tax returns and they may release some details to the public.


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Sunday, December 4, 2022 2:07 AM (P)

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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SIGNYM:

In other words, Trump isn't going to jail ever, just like Hillary isn't going to jail, ever.

Thanks for corroborating my interpretation.

SECOND: The Confederate blah blah blah .... The legal system has NEVER actually worked the way I was taught it is presumed to work

All I have to do is look at the way the Japanese were imprisoned during WWII to know that our justice system doesn't work they way we were taught.

Your post is yet ANOTHER way of admitting that Trump will never go to jail, and neither will Hillary. Stop making my point for me. This is a dead thread about a pointless topic.

You and Hillary can thank your lucky stars for our justice system.






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Sunday, December 4, 2022 2:08 AM (P)


tick tock

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Sunday, December 4, 2022 2:10 AM (P)

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Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

Supreme Court again rejects Trump’s bid to shield tax returns, other financial records from Manhattan prosecutor

The Supreme Court on Monday rejected former president Donald Trump’s last-chance effort to keep his private financial records from the Manhattan district attorney, ending a long and drawn-out legal battle.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/supreme-court-again-rejects-tr
ump-s-bid-to-shield-tax-returns-other-financial-records-from-manhattan-prosecutor/ar-BB1dUinR?ocid=msedgntp


tick tock mother f!#ker.

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Rep. Lloyd Doggett (D-TX) says that congressional investigators are currently going through former President Trump's tax returns and they may release some details to the public.





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Sunday, December 4, 2022 2:12 AM (P)

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

SIGNYM:

In other words, Trump isn't going to jail ever, just like Hillary isn't going to jail, ever.

Thanks for corroborating my interpretation.

SECOND: The Confederate blah blah blah .... The legal system has NEVER actually worked the way I was taught it is presumed to work

All I have to do is look at the way the Japanese were imprisoned during WWII to know that our justice system doesn't work they way we were taught.

Your post is yet ANOTHER way of admitting that Trump will never go to jail, and neither will Hillary. Stop making my point for me. This is a dead thread about a pointless topic.

You and Hillary can thank your lucky stars for our justice system.






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Sunday, December 4, 2022 2:41 AM (P)

Trump will be fine.

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Trump will be fine.

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Monday, December 5, 2022 4:44 AM (P)

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Reversal Of Long-Standing Policy Keeps Key Documents On Hunter Biden’s Business From Congress

Authored by Mark Tapscott via The Epoch Times (emphasis ours),

Congressional investigators are being denied access to 148 Suspicious Activity Reports (SARs) filed with the Department of the Treasury by banks concerning financial dealings of President Joe Biden’s son, Hunter, and brother, Jim, according to incoming House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim Jordan (R-Ohio).

“Most Americans have never heard the term ‘Suspicious Activity Reports.’ These are actual reports that financial institutions file with the Treasury Department when they see suspicious activity,” Jordan told Epoch TV’s Joshua Phillip in an interview for the “Newsmakers” program.

“Typically, it’s money laundering type of activity, so most Americans don’t get these. Or if they do, there is a good reason for it. But there are 150 of them on Hunter Biden and Jim Biden, the President’s brother, and that to me is a big concern,” Jordan said.


MORE AT https://www.zerohedge.com/political/reversal-long-standing-policy-keep
s-key-documents-hunter-bidens-business-congress




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Monday, December 5, 2022 4:56 AM (P)

The media keeps trying to talk about Trump's tax returns that are going to go nowhere like they've gone the last 6 years because Joe Biden* and family are fucked.



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Monday, December 5, 2022 6:41 PM (P)

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:


Reversal Of Long-Standing Policy Keeps Key Documents On Hunter Biden’s Business From Congress

Authored by Mark Tapscott via The Epoch Times (emphasis ours),

Congressional investigators are being denied access to 148 Suspicious Activity Reports (SARs) filed with the Department of the Treasury by banks concerning financial dealings of President Joe Biden’s son, Hunter, and brother, Jim, according to incoming House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim Jordan (R-Ohio).

“Most Americans have never heard the term ‘Suspicious Activity Reports.’ These are actual reports that financial institutions file with the Treasury Department when they see suspicious activity,” Jordan told Epoch TV’s Joshua Phillip in an interview for the “Newsmakers” program.

“Typically, it’s money laundering type of activity, so most Americans don’t get these. Or if they do, there is a good reason for it. But there are 150 of them on Hunter Biden and Jim Biden, the President’s brother, and that to me is a big concern,” Jordan said.


MORE AT https://www.zerohedge.com/political/reversal-long-standing-policy-keep
s-key-documents-hunter-bidens-business-congress





Poor comrade signym. Once again she must turn to zerohedge for a quote. As always happens, they, trolls and republicans, cry wolf when there is not much or anything at all there.

Meanwhile, they are working overtime to protect the worst of the worst, Trump and Putin to name two. That comes across clear as day with every post.

They are despicable, rotten to their cores.

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Monday, December 5, 2022 11:10 PM (P)

The jury has begun deliberations in the Trump Organization tax-fraud trial in Manhattan — but first, jurors were reminded of their promise to set aside any bias they may have against former President Donald Trump or his company.

"Jurors, you will recall that during jury selection, you promised that you would set aside any personal opinions or biases you may have against Donald Trump or his family," they were instructed by New York Supreme Court Justice Juan Merchan, who has presided over the six-week trial.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/deliberations-have-started-in-
the-trump-organization-tax-fraud-trial-and-the-judge-told-jurors-to-set-aside-any-trump-biases/ar-AA14VKaR?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a73cce838f5b44d38959299d19b303be





This is a civil trial not a criminal one, but it looks as though a criminal trial will follow.

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Tuesday, December 6, 2022 6:09 AM (P)

Manhattan DA Hires Ex-DOJ Official to Help Lead Trump Investigation

The Manhattan district attorney is hiring a former senior justice department official with a history of taking on Donald J. Trump and his family business, as the office seeks to ramp up its investigation into the former president.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/manhattan-da-hires-ex-doj-official-t
o-help-lead-trump-investigation/ar-AA14VG5e?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=5c4f072a2098439c9a9f414f63e5548a




tick tock

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Tuesday, December 6, 2022 6:35 AM (P)

Trump reportedly paid money to key witnesses in Mar-a-Lago, Fla. confidential documents case

Story by Daniel Stewart • 43m ago

Former U.S. President Donald Trump's political action committee (PAC) reportedly paid money to some witnesses involved in the Justice Department's investigation into whether the former president illegally withheld confidential state documents after leaving the presidency, 'The Washington Post' has reported.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-reportedly-paid-money-to
-key-witnesses-in-mar-a-lago-fla-confidential-documents-case/ar-AA14WSkW?cvid=4f6b65b792e344dbba596fadb49a6c68&ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover




This shit just keeps getting better.

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Tuesday, December 6, 2022 9:19 AM (P)

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Trump reportedly paid money to key witnesses in Mar-a-Lago, Fla. confidential documents case

Story by Daniel Stewart • 43m ago

Former U.S. President Donald Trump's political action committee (PAC) reportedly paid money to some witnesses involved in the Justice Department's investigation into whether the former president illegally withheld confidential state documents after leaving the presidency, 'The Washington Post' has reported.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-reportedly-paid-money-to
-key-witnesses-in-mar-a-lago-fla-confidential-documents-case/ar-AA14WSkW?cvid=4f6b65b792e344dbba596fadb49a6c68&ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover




This shit just keeps getting better.

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Wow dude. I know it's hard for you, but did you actually read past the first paragraph of that article?

I bet you the pink slip on my car this one goes nowhere.

Democrats are only around still in 2022 because there are people in this country that are even stupider than you are. A lot of them.

Trump will be fine.



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Tuesday, December 6, 2022 10:12 PM (P)

US Courts Just Ruled Against Donald Trump In Georgia Case

Donald Trump’s legal woes are going from bad to worse, as he’s just been hit with another bombshell; this time as a spate of court rulings have rejected claims by the former president and some of his allies for executive privilege preventing them from testifying in court. Omg!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/us-courts-just-ruled-against-d
onald-trump-in-georgia-case/ar-AA14XJjp?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=e821d861cbc34290915259d018f503e4




Figured it would.

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Wednesday, December 7, 2022 1:57 AM (P)

OMG!



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Wednesday, December 7, 2022 3:50 AM (P)

How Trump Org's tax fraud conviction could bar Trump from federal contracts, even for Secret Service

The Trump Organization was found criminally liable of tax fraud on Tuesday after a six-week trial.
The conviction could ban Trump from doing business with the federal government.

A ban could end his 'exorbitant' billing of Secret Service agents who protect him at his resorts.
Donald Trump's real-estate and golf-resort empire was found guilty on Tuesday for tax crimes committed by the company's two top financial executives, a verdict that followed a six-week trial in state court in Manhattan.

The Trump Organization now faces up to $1.6 million in penalities when it's sentenced on January 13. But there's another threatened cost, and it's something government spending watchdogs have been urging for years.

The conviction could prompt the government to bar the Trump Organization from doing business as a federal contractor, including cutting off the spigot of Trump's lucrative — and critics say exorbitant — billing of Secret Service agents who stay at his properties while protecting the former president and his family.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/how-trump-org-s-tax-fraud-conv
iction-could-bar-trump-from-federal-contracts-even-for-secret-service/ar-AA13hQ25?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=04ef13f0ffb44738858dd3425a542d72




This is fun aye Jack? Pay close attention to the last paragraph.

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Wednesday, December 7, 2022 4:48 AM (P)

It is fun. Who cares about the last paragraph? I'm sure Trump doesn't.



Meanwhile, have you ever spent three minutes of your life looking into Hunter's laptop leaks and the stuff regarding his father? I bet you haven't.

You should.

It's far worse than anything they've told you that Trump ever did. And it's undeniable.


If you ever get around to looking into it and realizing what they're hiding from you by keeping your mind stuffed full of Trump and Putin, it just may make you question what else they've been hiding from you.

And I think you just may possibly be smart enough to realize that and be just a little terrified about the world you think you live in shattering around you.

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Wednesday, December 7, 2022 7:20 AM (P)

Yanno,one of the things that tells me the deep state still sees Trump as a threat is the hard-on they still have for him. They aren't going after DeSantis bc foreign policy- wise he falls in line with the establishment.

Any President tries to change foreign policy, challenge the deep state and control the CIA/StateDept gets axed. Look at what happened to the Kennedys.



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Wednesday, December 7, 2022 7:28 AM (P)

Yup. If I were Trump, or Elon Musk for that matter, I'd be really cautious when going outside.

In fact, Elon Musk has recently said that his days of doing signings in public are over.

Can't say I blame him.

He's also reminds everybody that he's not suicidal on Twitter quite frequently these days from what I gather too.



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Wednesday, December 7, 2022 5:00 PM (P)

By design, courts are slow everywhere in the world. Why should the US be different?

Yesterday, a court in Argentina sentenced Vice-President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner to six years in jail for corruption. Eleven other people were on trial. Seven were found guilty and sentenced to between three and a half and six years in prison, three were released and one had their case dismissed.

Prosecutors said Fernández de Kirchner had led an unlawful partnership during the time when she was president of Argentina from 2007 to 2015. They said she had created a kickback scheme that steered lucrative public work contracts towards a friend of hers in return for bribes. Prior to the ruling, she had accused the prosecutors of lying and slandering her. Speaking after the verdict, she described herself as the victim of a "judicial mafia".

Even though she has been found guilty and sentenced to a jail term, Ms Fernández de Kirchner will not be sent to prison immediately.

As the head of the senate, she enjoys a degree of immunity which means that she will be able to remain free and continue in her post while she appeals against the verdict all the way to the Supreme Court.

As the appeal process could take years, she is expected to be able to run again for the senate or even for the presidency in the 2023 election.

It is the first time ever that a vice-president has been convicted of a crime while in office in Argentina.

More at https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-63872953

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Wednesday, December 7, 2022 6:58 PM (P)

The Trump Organization Was Convicted After a Truly Embarrassing Defense

Trump’s lawyers acted like buffoons, but those are the only kind that will work for him after he underpaid much better lawyers because Trump was “dissatisfied”.

As of Tuesday afternoon, Donald Trump’s company is a convicted felon. The result comes courtesy of the jury in the criminal trial of the Trump Organization, which found Trump’s namesake company guilty on all 17 counts of the indictment.

The Trump Organization’s chief financial officer, Allen Weisselberg, pled guilty in August, which, given the way that corporate criminal liability works, dramatically simplified the case against Trump.

Ordinarily, a corporate defense in this scenario would face extraordinarily long odds, and most companies (at least the ones with competent counsel and non-crazy clients) would have settled. That is because corporations are typically criminally liable for the criminal activities of their employees, assuming that the conduct at issue was intended — at least in part — to benefit the company. Once you have a guilty plea from a corporate employee, the company has very limited remaining lines of defense. You can accuse the employee of lying to save himself, perhaps, or try to argue that the conduct was not intended to benefit the company, but these are generally not great arguments.

The Trump’s lawyers reportedly pushed hard to argue that Weisselberg was acting solely in his self-interest — purely to lower his personal tax liability — but this made almost no sense in the context of the particular criminal scheme here. That is because if Weisselberg simply wanted more money, he could have lobbied for a higher salary, but the scheme he and others at the company settled on saved both him and the Trump Organization money. As one of the prosecutors explained, this was “by far the most significant benefit” to the company, which paid Weisselberg less as he managed to net about a million dollars over the course of the scheme. According to the DA’s office, the company would have had to pay about $3.5 million if Weisselberg’s benefits had been accurately reported to tax authorities.

Trump’s lawyer, van der Veen, requested a mistrial at one point after a series of objections during closing arguments, which, according to the Times, visibly annoyed the jurors, “with a few shaking their heads and glancing at their watches.” (Also something to avoid!) Trump’s lawyers were also repeatedly reprimanded by the judge for misstating the law, did weird impressions of witnesses, and made strange puns. When it was van der Veen’s turn to deliver his closing, he “approached the lectern, paused and then shouted: ‘Weisselberg did it for Weisselberg’” — an apparent and now clearly failed effort to devise a catchphrase for the main defense theme, but one that could probably have been delivered effectively without shouting at the people you are trying to persuade.

Granted, Trump’s lawyers did not have much to work with, but there is respectable lawyering and then there is buffoonery, and this was not respectable lawyering.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/12/trump-organization-convicted-o
n-all-counts-in-criminal-trial.html


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Wednesday, December 7, 2022 7:06 PM (P)

Rudy Giuliani’s 5 Worst Excuses From His Attorney-Misconduct Hearing

During the hearings, Giuliani also inadvertently underscored that his mental focus isn’t what it once was. At one point, he looked at his wrist and remarked with surprise, “You know I have two watches on?”

Giuliani also said he believes he has been unfairly “persecuted for years” over his involvement in Trump’s attempt to steal the election, adding on Tuesday, “I am shocked and offended this is happening to me.”

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/12/rudy-giuliani-dc-law-license-h
earing-excuses.html


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Wednesday, December 7, 2022 10:24 PM (P)

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Yanno,one of the things that tells me the deep state still sees Trump as a threat is the hard-on they still have for him. They aren't going after DeSantis bc foreign policy- wise he falls in line with the establishment.

Any President tries to change foreign policy, challenge the deep state and control the CIA/StateDept gets axed. Look at what happened to the Kennedys.





I can't get over how stupid you are comrade. It's why I call you always wrong. Because you are, you are always wrong.

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Wednesday, December 7, 2022 11:36 PM (P)

Donald Trump Trapped in Legal Nightmare That's About To Get Worse

Donald Trump Trapped in Legal Nightmare That's About To Get Worse

Donald Trump Trapped in Legal Nightmare That's About To Get Worse

Donald Trump Trapped in Legal Nightmare That's About To Get Worse

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trump-trapped-in-legal-
nightmare-that-s-about-to-get-worse/ar-AA150TsE?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=185e81365dd34f5c928a6c0a0af55418




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Thursday, December 8, 2022 4:06 AM (P)

Trump's team recovered more classified documents in search of storage unit

Former President Donald Trump had an outside team conduct a deeper search for any government documents at four properties which turned up at least two more documents marked classified, ABC News has confirmed according to sources familiar with the matter.

The documents were recovered at a storage unit that is owned by the federal government, and maintained by the General Services Administration (GSA) in West Palm Beach, Florida, the sources told ABC News.

The Department of Justice has been notified of the documents' existence.

MORE: Trump special master overturned by appeals court in Mar-a-Lago

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-s-team-recovered-more-cl
assified-documents-in-search-of-storage-unit/ar-AA151Ium?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=c41593af066e422aa9ae51b454c402e4




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Thursday, December 8, 2022 4:31 AM (P)

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Trump's team recovered more classified documents in search of storage unit

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-s-team-recovered-more-cl
assified-documents-in-search-of-storage-unit/ar-AA151Ium?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=c41593af066e422aa9ae51b454c402e4


You should read the whole story, but Trump is bonkers:

Classified Documents Found in Trump Search of Storage Site

by Maggie Haberman, Alan Feuer

The discovery came as series of searches were conducted by a team hired by the former president, after a federal judge directed his lawyers to look for any materials still in his possession.

Dec. 7, 2022 Updated 1:54 p.m. ET

Former President Donald J. Trump hired people to search four properties after being directed by a federal judge to look harder for any classified material still in his possession, and they found at least two documents with classified markings inside a sealed box in one of the locations, according to a person familiar with the matter.

Mr. Trump’s search team discovered the documents at a federally run storage site in West Palm Beach, Fla., the person said, prompting his lawyers to notify the Justice Department about them.

The New York Times reported in October that Justice Department officials had told the former president’s lawyers that they believed he might have more classified materials that were not returned in response to a subpoena issued in May. The F.B.I. searched Mar-a-Lago, Mr. Trump’s private club and residence in Florida, in August for additional classified documents and other presidential records.

People close to Mr. Trump had said earlier on Wednesday that no classified material had been found during the searches, a claim that was later proved incorrect. The Washington Post first reported on the locating of the two additional documents, as well as the searches of the properties.

After the warning from the Justice Department, a debate ensued among Mr. Trump’s lawyers about whether to bring in an independent firm to conduct a search.

The discovery of the documents at the storage unit, maintained by the federal General Services Administration, came during a series of wider searches that were completed around Thanksgiving and conducted at Mr. Trump’s golf club in Bedminster, N.J.; at Trump Tower in New York; and in a storage closet at Mar-a-Lago, according to two people familiar with the events.

Steven Cheung, a spokesman for Mr. Trump, said in a statement that the former president and “his counsel continue to be cooperative and transparent, despite the unprecedented, illegal and unwarranted attack against President Trump and his family by the weaponized Department of Justice.”

The department is investigating the former president’s handling of thousands of government documents, including more than 300 classified ones, that were taken from the White House at the end of his term and were found at Mar-a-Lago. Prosecutors are also seeking to determine whether Mr. Trump obstructed the government’s repeated efforts to retrieve the materials.

When the Justice Department warned that it believed Mr. Trump still had documents in his possession, a lawyer whom he had hired a short time earlier, Christopher M. Kise, suggested along with other lawyers working for Mr. Trump that they engage an outside firm, according to people familiar with the events.

A cadre of other Trump lawyers were resistant to the idea; among them was Boris Epshteyn, a communications adviser who has positioned himself as an in-house counsel on some of Mr. Trump’s legal entanglements. The dispute led to Mr. Kise’s standing in Mr. Trump’s circle diminishing for weeks, according to several people close to the former president.

More recently, Chief Judge Beryl A. Howell of Federal District Court in Washington, who oversees grand jury investigations, directed Mr. Trump’s lawyers essentially to search more carefully for any remaining documents. Other lawyers in Mr. Trump’s circle took on the issue and hired a firm, according to one of the pe

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Thursday, December 8, 2022 6:28 AM (P)

I don't really post entire articles. It's a waste of space if it isn't going to get read. Therefore, I post titles and at most a paragraph of two.

If someone wants to read it, it is there for them to do so. Because I do not generally post the whole thing doesn't mean I haven't read it myself.

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Thursday, December 8, 2022 6:45 AM (P)

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Originally posted by THG:
I don't really post entire articles. It's a waste of space if it isn't going to get read. Therefore, I post titles and at most a paragraph of two.

If someone wants to read it, it is there for them to do so. Because I do not generally post the whole thing doesn't mean I haven't read it myself.

T


The NYTimes version had a different emphasis than the article you pointed to. The NYTimes made it obvious that Trump was bonkers enough to be telling his lawyers to lie to the Federal government. The lawyers refused to lie, which made the lawyers useless to Trump. If this goes to trial, that will be evidence against Trump, except Trump will take it to Supreme Court to stop his lawyer from being subpoenaed, which leaves the prosecution to call a witness that was there when Trump asked the lawyer to lie. Everything goes around and around in a wobbly circle month after month, never getting anywhere closer to a decision about Trump.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, December 8, 2022 11:55 AM (P)

Nobody with half a brain believes anything the NYT has to say anymore.

Trump isn't guilty of anything you believe he is, and Trump will be fine.



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Thursday, December 8, 2022 5:22 PM (P)

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody with half a brain believes anything the NYT has to say anymore.

Trump isn't guilty of anything you believe he is, and Trump will be fine.



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I think you are in denial about Trump having top secret documents in Mar-a-Lago. What Trump is saying is that those top secret documents are NOT top secret because he declassified them. Therefore Trump claims he can't be prosecuted. A better line of defense would be to declare that having top secret documents should not be a crime, especially for Trump. But the law doesn't allow an exception for Trump.

Maybe Biden can pardon Trump, making this legal problem go away? Maybe Trump should ask for a pardon? Maybe Biden will ease away Trump's worries? Trump will be fine because Biden is his friend!

What is the penalty for taking top secret documents?

18 U.S. Code § 1924 - Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1924

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, December 8, 2022 9:28 PM (P)

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody with half a brain believes anything the NYT has to say anymore.

Trump isn't guilty of anything you believe he is, and Trump will be fine.



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I think you are in denial about Trump having top secret documents in Mar-a-Lago. What Trump is saying is that those top secret documents are NOT top secret because he declassified them. Therefore Trump claims he can't be prosecuted. A better line of defense would be to declare that having top secret documents should not be a crime, especially for Trump. But the law doesn't allow an exception for Trump.

Maybe Biden can pardon Trump, making this legal problem go away? Maybe Trump should ask for a pardon? Maybe Biden will ease away Trump's worries? Trump will be fine because Biden is his friend!

What is the penalty for taking top secret documents?

18 U.S. Code § 1924 - Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1924

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two




I didn't hear you having any problems with all of the Top Secret documents that the Obama family have in their possession.

But that's because the Legacy Media never told you to have an opinion about all of the Top Secret documents that the Obama family have in their possession.



Get Jimmy Carter on the phone before he dies of Covid. Let's find out what juicy Top Secret secrets that old dog has in his attic about Panama.



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Friday, December 9, 2022 12:24 AM (P)

Jacks=ass above post responding to your post second is a lie. He claims Obama and Jimmy Carter stole documents as a way to defend Trump for doing so. They did nothing of the kind. So, on the one hand he is admitting what Trump did is wrong. On the other he shows us the only defence of Trumps behavior is to lie.

tick tock

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Friday, December 9, 2022 7:48 PM (P)

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Jacks=ass above post responding to your post second is a lie. He claims Obama and Jimmy Carter stole documents as a way to defend Trump for doing so. They did nothing of the kind. So, on the one hand he is admitting what Trump did is wrong. On the other he shows us the only defence of Trumps behavior is to lie.

tick tock

T


At work I have to show, not tell, the Trumptards what to do because they can't understand maintenance manuals, which they complain aren't practical. In other words, words in the manuals don't penetrate a Trumptard's thick skull. It is no surprise that Trumptards get confused about politics, which is all words all the time. The concepts being tossed around in politics are misunderstood by the Trumptards like 6ixStringJack because the words, to be understood by them, require them to build a picture inside their brains about what the words are describing, but Trumptards cannot do it properly. Whatever distorted picture they have inside their head of Trump does not at all look like him because their picture is missing crucial pieces of Trump's behavior.

If a documentary film crew had recorded Trump's behavior, his voters, at least the smarter ones, would likely understand and then reject him. But since Trump's voters only have written words from the news, they obviously don't understand. This takes us back to the maintenance manuals which is why I have to demonstrate, in person, what is written in the manuals, since the Trump-voting Trumptard employees don't understand written words the way they should.

Trumptards aren't all stupid, but they do have political dyslexia and that makes their life hard.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/dyslexia/symptoms-cause
s/syc-20353552


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, December 9, 2022 9:29 PM (P)

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Jacks=ass above post responding to your post second is a lie. He claims Obama and Jimmy Carter stole documents as a way to defend Trump for doing so. They did nothing of the kind. So, on the one hand he is admitting what Trump did is wrong. On the other he shows us the only defence of Trumps behavior is to lie.

tick tock

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Not a lie.

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Saturday, December 17, 2022 11:17 PM (P)

Allen Weisselberg could get more time since the Trump Org guilty verdict required jurors to find he lied

Only one person, ex-CFO Allen Weisselberg, is going to jail for the Trump Org. tax-fraud scheme.

Ex-Manhattan financial-crimes prosecutors say he could now face more time than his five-month deal.

A judge could rule Weisselberg violated the deal because jurors, by their verdict, found he lied.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/allen-weisselberg-could-get-mo
re-time-since-the-trump-org-guilty-verdict-required-jurors-to-find-he-lied/ar-AA15nt9e?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=521750f6e23d479da987feaf045f7226




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Sunday, December 18, 2022 4:20 AM (P)

Georgia Grand Jury's Trump Probe Nears End

ATLANTA—A criminal investigation into former President Donald Trump‘s efforts to overturn his election defeat in Georgia has produced a flurry of activity in the last month, with several high-profile witnesses appearing before a special grand jury that is now nearing its end, according to a person familiar with the matter.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/georgia-grand-jury-s-trump-pro
be-nears-end/ar-AA15nT7W?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=1610def814914e939e184633b9fdb3e6




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Sunday, December 18, 2022 4:27 AM (P)

Yup. Tick Tock to nothing again.

Do you have any plans on retiring this thread in the future Ted? Trump ain't ever going to jail.



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Monday, December 19, 2022 7:13 PM (P)

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Yup. Tick Tock to nothing again.

Do you have any plans on retiring this thread in the future Ted? Trump ain't ever going to jail.

It is very sad what has happened to Trump. Trump’s need for attention hasn’t dwindled since he left office, but he is not getting it. Instead, he slowly melts into a puddle of fat:

On a typical day since leaving office, advisers said, Trump gets up early, makes phone calls, watches television and reads some newspapers. Then, six days a week, he plays 18 or sometimes 27 holes of golf at one of his courses. After lunch, he changes into a suit from his golf shirt and slacks and shows up in the office above the Mar-a-Lago ballroom or, when he is in New Jersey, a similar office in a cottage near the Bedminster club’s pool.

By evening, Trump emerges for dinner, surrounded most nights by adoring club members who stand and applaud at his appearance; they stand and applaud again after he finishes his meal and retires for the night. He often orders special meals from the kitchen and spends time curating the music wafting over the crowd, frequently pushing for the volume to be raised or lowered based on his mood. In the Oval Office, Trump had a button he could push to summon an aide to bring him a Diet Coke or snacks. Now, he just yells out commands to whichever employee is in earshot.

At times, Trump makes unannounced visits at weddings, gala benefits and other events being hosted by paying customers in Mar-a-Lago’s ballroom, basking as attendees mob him for selfies. He has also attended fundraisers there; many Republican candidates have paid Trump to use his club as a venue at which to raise campaign funds.

“There are no protocols. He plays golf. He meets with people in the afternoon. He really doesn’t do a lot of consequence most days,” one person in his orbit said.

When Donald Trump invited the rapper formerly known as Kanye West and white supremacist Nick Fuentes to join him for dinner on the patio of his Florida club last month, the former president had no chief of staff or senior aide at his side.

There was no scheduler, either, nor a press aide. Only one person staffed Trump at the gathering with antisemites that drew days of denunciations: Walt Nauta, a cook and military valet in the Trump White House who is now employed as an all-purpose gofer for the former president and who ushered the group to the table before leaving them alone to talk.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/12/18/trump-life
-after-presidency
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, December 21, 2022 7:04 PM (P)

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Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Updated the 2nd post in the Impeachment Countdown Clock thread to point to this one.

It will be quite funny looking at both clocks still ticking away the seconds another 3 years from now.




Know what else is funny. All these kiss asses are gone. And moron, working for Trump left a stain on all of them. Ruined their reputations. Trumps next to go. All gone in less than one term. Most gone for a long time now. Telling folks, very telling.



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It's Tax Day for Trump. Too funny...

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Wednesday, December 21, 2022 7:09 PM (P)

It is funny. The IRS already knows what's in them.

Trump will be fine, and Democrats are pathetic.



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Friday, December 23, 2022 12:59 AM (P)

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It is funny. The IRS already knows what's in them.

Trump will be fine, and Democrats are pathetic.

Senate Finance Committee Chair Ron Wyden accused the IRS of being “asleep at the wheel” and said its presidential audit system is “broken.” In a statement, Wyden said, “There is no justification for the failure to conduct the required presidential audits until a congressional inquiry was made.”

https://web.archive.org/web/20221222173552/https://www.forbes.com/site
s/brianbushard/2022/12/21/trump-paid-0-in-taxes-in-2020-heres-what-to-know-about-his-tax-returns
/

The House Ways and Means Committee issued a report claiming the IRS did not properly audit Trump during his first two years in office, something it’s required to do for all sitting presidents. According to the House report, the IRS had only started an audit two years into Trump’s presidency and had not completed any while he was in office, with Committee Chair Richard Neal (D-Mass.) calling the audit program “dormant.”

https://waysandmeans.house.gov/sites/democrats.waysandmeans.house.gov/
files/documents/2022.12.20%20Final%20Report%20House%20Ways%20and%20Means.pdf


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, December 23, 2022 5:07 PM (P)

I.R.S. Routinely Audited Obama and Biden, Raising Questions Over Delays for Trump

By Charlie Savage, Alan Rappeport

The revelation that the agency had not audited Donald J. Trump during his first two years in office despite a mandatory presidential audit program raised concerns about potential politicization.

WASHINGTON — The I.R.S. subjected both President Donald J. Trump’s predecessor and his successor to annual audits of their tax returns once they took office, spokespeople for Barack Obama and President Biden said on Wednesday, intensifying questions about how Mr. Trump escaped such scrutiny until Democrats in the House started inquiring.

Late Tuesday, a House committee revealed that the I.R.S. failed to audit Mr. Trump during his first two years in office despite a rule that states that “the individual tax returns for the president and the vice president are subject to mandatory review.” But its report left unclear whether that lapse reflected general dysfunction or whether Mr. Trump received special treatment.

The disclosure of routine audits of Mr. Obama and Mr. Biden during their time in office suggested that the agency’s treatment of Mr. Trump was an aberration.

“I’m absolutely flabbergasted,” said Nina E. Olson, the national taxpayer advocate from 2001 to 2019. “It’s disturbing. You have a process where you’re auditing the president, you better be auditing the president.”

Reports issued by the Ways and Means Committee, which obtained Mr. Trump’s tax data last month after a yearslong legal battle, said the I.R.S. had initiated its first audit of one of his filings as president in April 2019, the same day that Representative Richard E. Neal, Democrat of Massachusetts and the committee’s chairman, had inquired about the matter.

The I.R.S. has yet to complete that audit, the report added, and the agency started auditing filings covering Mr. Trump’s income while president only after he left office. Even after the agency belatedly started looking, it assigned only a single agent to examine Mr. Trump’s returns, going up against a large team of lawyers and accountants who objected when the I.R.S. added two more people to help.

The committee’s discovery that the I.R.S. flouted its rules is bringing new scrutiny to concerns about potential politicization at the I.R.S. during the Trump administration and spurring calls for the inspector general that oversees the agency to investigate what went wrong. It has also raised questions about why the I.R.S. devoted so few resources to auditing Mr. Trump, who, as a business mogul, had far more complicated tax filings than any previous president.

Under Mr. Trump, the I.R.S. was run for most of 2017 by a commissioner appointed by Mr. Obama, John Koskinen, and — after about 11 months being overseen by an acting head, David J. Kautter — a successor appointed by Mr. Trump, Charles P. Rettig. None ensured that the agency followed its rules requiring presidential audits.

Mr. Rettig, who left in October, said in an email on Wednesday evening that he did not attempt to intervene in Mr. Trump’s audit.

“I am not aware of any taxpayer receiving special treatment at any time, before or during my term as commissioner,” he said. “Further, at no time did I make, nor am I aware that anyone else made, any decision to somehow limit resources available to conduct examinations under the mandatory examination process.”

He added: “I had no involvement in the process of selecting for examination or the conduct of an examination of any return regarding any taxpayer.”

Mr. Koskinen said that his only involvement in Mr. Trump’s tax returns was working to ensure that they were kept in a secure location.

“The good thing about being commissioner is that you never know who is being audited,” Mr. Koskinen said, adding that it would have been inappropriate to ask about the status of any examination.

Mr. Kautter did not respond to a request for comment.

The committee’s reports left many questions unanswered given that it had little time to act: While Mr. Nea

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Friday, December 23, 2022 8:19 PM (P)

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It is funny. The IRS already knows what's in them.

Trump will be fine, and Democrats are pathetic.

Senate Finance Committee Chair Ron Wyden accused the IRS of being “asleep at the wheel” and said its presidential audit system is “broken.” In a statement, Wyden said, “There is no justification for the failure to conduct the required presidential audits until a congressional inquiry was made.”

https://web.archive.org/web/20221222173552/https://www.forbes.com/site
s/brianbushard/2022/12/21/trump-paid-0-in-taxes-in-2020-heres-what-to-know-about-his-tax-returns
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The House Ways and Means Committee issued a report claiming the IRS did not properly audit Trump during his first two years in office, something it’s required to do for all sitting presidents. According to the House report, the IRS had only started an audit two years into Trump’s presidency and had not completed any while he was in office, with Committee Chair Richard Neal (D-Mass.) calling the audit program “dormant.”

https://waysandmeans.house.gov/sites/democrats.waysandmeans.house.gov/
files/documents/2022.12.20%20Final%20Report%20House%20Ways%20and%20Means.pdf


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two




BLAH, BLAH, BLAH....

All they're doing to you low-IQ morons now is spinning the story, once again, into something that doesn't even resemble the original claims.

They know full fucking well there's nothing in Trump's tax returns that could land him in jail, so they're going to make up some new shit so all you little dummies can bump into each other spouting anti-Trump soundbytes all the way up until the day he's re-elected and CNN can start making money again.


Trump will be fine.

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#TheYoungTurks #TYT #BreakingNews
TRUMP'S TAXES RELEASED: Here's What We Know





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Monday, December 26, 2022 5:58 AM (P)

tick tock asshole.

This SHOCKING Sean Hannity Deposition Could Cost Fox News MILLIONS

Sean Hannity said he never actually believed Donald Trump's election fraud lies.

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Monday, December 26, 2022 6:00 AM (P)

Haha! The Young Turks go over Trump's Taxes!

That's priceless, Ted.



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Tax returns shed light on entanglements between Donald Trump and Deutsche Bank

The explosive New York Times report on the tax situation of US President Trump is raising some uncomfortable questions for Germany's largest lender, Deutsche Bank, namely: why did Deutsche Bank loan Mr Trump 2 Billion dollars at the same time other banks, including all US banks, were not willing to do so. And while Deutsche Bank may be handlling the loans, we cannot say tonight who or what is behind that money. In other words, we don't know who owns the debt of US President Donald Trump. And adding to the puzzle is the role played by the son of a former Supreme Court Justice. Justin Kennedy, son of former Justice Anthony Kennedy, was a division head and contact for Trump at Deutsche Bank. Kennedy was close to the then future president while continuing to lend him money.





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