Is Angel's season 5 as good as season 1? by chrisisall

Just a question.

Escape From Pylea Chrisisall

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Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:59 AM

You're really obsessed with this season 5 thing, aren't you?

It's got a completely different vibe as season 1, so it's hard to compare. It's similar in structure though; it's a bit less serialized than seasons 2-4. But theme-wise it's more like season 2 (not the Pylea episodes, chill), since it deals a bit with Angel's wacky vamp family and it deals A LOT with Wolfram & Hart.

And chill about Pylea, seriously. Is there some kind of Alice in Wonderland childhood trauma that you've been suppressing that's manifesting into this Pylea fear? No one ever goes back to Pylea, so don't let that keep you away from the rest of the show.

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Thursday, May 11, 2006 11:04 AM

And I thought you didn't like season 1, with the unreal "every demon knows karate"/no connection to the characters thing. When did you start liking it?

Or, if you never did like it, are you asking if it's better than something that annoyed you?

The actors in demon suits never go away. Angel is a demon, therefore he hangs out with a lot of them. That's just the way it is.

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Thursday, May 11, 2006 11:47 AM

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Originally posted by amyel:
And I thought you didn't like season 1, with the unreal "every demon knows karate"/no connection to the characters thing. When did you start liking it?

Yeah, I started that thread. It took me a while to wrap my head fully around Buffy and Angel, they're just a little far out and funky next to the uber-serious straight arrow stuff I grew up with (Dracula Has Risen From The Grave).
Fact is, I did like season 1, a lot. I liked a lot of season 2 (W & H stuff, mostly).
I plead guilty to being hard won, but won I am (I own the Chosen Collection, do I not?).

For the record, if Buffy's a 10, I still only consider Angel an 8.5

Give an old man a break, an allow him to come around, eh?

Mal-adjusted Chrisisall

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Thursday, May 11, 2006 11:51 AM

WEREALLJUSTFLOATING

Season 1 is my least favourite season of Angel , but that's not to say that it doesnt have some great episodes - the 2 Faith ones being my own favourites.

Season 5 is inevitably better, cos they'd had 4 years to perfect the show - the characters were so much more developed and the cinematography and effects don't even compare to season 1. The only thing 5 could have done better IMO was to bring Cordy back for a proper arc, one episode just wasn't enough.

We're still flying.

That's not much.

It's enough.

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Thursday, May 11, 2006 11:51 AM

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Originally posted by amyel:

Is there some kind of Alice in Wonderland childhood trauma that you've been suppressing that's manifesting into this Pylea fear?

I went to grade through high school in Long Island, NY, it's a lot like Pylea there.
Well, where I lived, anyway...

Chrisisall down the rabbit hole

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Thursday, May 11, 2006 11:51 AM

WEREALLJUSTFLOATING

Season 1 is my least favourite season of Angel , but that's not to say that it doesnt have some great episodes - the 2 Faith ones being my own favourites.

Season 5 is inevitably better, cos they'd had 4 years to perfect the show - the characters were so much more developed and the cinematography and effects don't even compare to season 1. The only thing 5 could have done better IMO was to bring Cordy back for a proper arc, one episode just wasn't enough time to say goodbye.

We're still flying.

That's not much.

It's enough.

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Thursday, May 11, 2006 12:49 PM

The WB drastically cut the budget for AtS in the fifth season, so most of the episodes took place on the same set. The scenery isn't always that interesting, and some of the demon FX were funny (I think one demon actually had horns made out of duct tape). There was one stunt that made a cheaply-built wall actually wobble. But it did save money for when they wanted to go all out... and they went all out. Some of my most favorite scenes in all of the Jossverse (yes, including Firefly) took place in the 5th season. Some of it is goofy, especially in the first 6 episodes, so if you don't like the beginning, hold on, and it'll totally take off.

Spike and Angel have the oddest relationship; part brothers, part kindergarten-level bickering, part buddy-cops, part (im)mortal enemies, part soulmates. The scenes with the two of them alone together were my favorite aspect of the season. And Wesley... and a certain blue-haired creature that shows up later.

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Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:06 PM

DROCCULARI

Here's my two cents. Angel season 5 is so much better than the other seasons of the show, it's almost a different show. Look where it falls in Joss's career. Buffy was over. Firefly was over. Serenity was, at best, an impossible fever dream. The only real, in production project he had to focus his energy and talent on was Angel. And boy did he.
It has the best series final episode I have ever seen. I love it, probably for the same reasons some people hate it. But there you go. As a friend used to say, "There's no accounting for taste."
I'd love to see a Faith spinoff series, but if it was up to me, no question about it, I want a Number Brothers show.
J. August Richards and Amy Acker had the two most stereotyped roles on the show, so Joss expanded both their acting resumes in ways the you can see paying off this season in the parts they've landed in other series.
The new Angel set owes a lot to Firefly. They are both two stories with a large central area that goes all the way up and includes an open stairway connecting both levels. Corridors lead off on both levels and wrap around allowing for long tracking shots that give the illusion of a much bigger space.
And I realize this seriously falls in the category of, there's no accounting for taste; Angel season 5 brings back vampire Harmony! OK, Mercedes McNab had the most stereotyped roll on the show.

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Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:27 PM

MER

I love them both equally.
Granted Season 5 had the most jokes b/c of the Spike/Angel banter. Season 1 had its jokes, but was serious and trying to find its own stride of the show.
Season 5 would've been REALLY kick ass if WB didn't up and cancel them. Having Fred as Illyria is just plain GOLD. I still believe it would've played out for the rest of the season.
I still don't know Joss's original intention for the rest of that season and there after.

These seasons of Angel has to be the only DVDs I bought ON THE DAY.

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Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:40 PM

MILFORD

The first season of Angel is my second fvorite season of any Joss show outside of Firefly. I did like season five a lot too, but there was something special about that first season. I love origin stories, watching the pieces come together, watching relationships work out the kinks. That's what I enjoy. I also really liked Wes the "Rouge Demon Hunter," and one of my favorite episodes was the one where he and Angel have to share the bike and Angel has to wear the pink helmet. Priceless. But, I recognize, that is my preference. All the seasons of Angel are good, but one is my favorite.

For the record, since you have my favorite season one scene, here's my season five fave: the episode where Loren has to confront his lack of sleep is hilarious. The scene with Wes and Fred who are drunk and waiting for the elevator is one of the funniest things I have ever seen. When he remembered that he hasn't pushed the button I died.

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Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:17 PM

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Originally posted by milford:
I did like season five a lot too, but there was something special about that first season. I love origin stories, watching the pieces come together, watching relationships work out the kinks. That's what I enjoy. I also really liked Wes the "Rouge Demon Hunter," and one of my favorite episodes was the one where he and Angel have to share the bike and Angel has to wear the pink helmet. Priceless. But, I recognize, that is my preference. All the seasons of Angel are good, but one is my favorite.

The pink helmet scene was in the second season.

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Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:20 PM

MILFORD

That's right! My mistake. They tend to run together as my clock winds down for the night. 'preciate it.

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Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:38 PM

Season 5 has smiletime, wich is by far the best ever Angel episode

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Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:38 PM

Season 5 has smiletime, wich is by far the best ever Angel episode

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Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:38 PM

Season 5 has smiletime, wich is by far the best ever Angel episode

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Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:38 PM

Season 5 has smiletime, wich is by far the best ever Angel episode

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Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:38 PM

Season 5 has smiletime, wich is by far the best ever Angel episode

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Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:38 PM

Season 5 has smiletime, wich is by far the best ever Angel episode

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Thursday, May 11, 2006 8:30 PM

GROOSALUGG

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Originally posted by amyel:
Some of it is goofy, especially in the first 6 episodes, so if you don't like the beginning, hold on, and it'll totally take off.

Agree that it really kicks into gear in episode 7 ("Lineage"), but there's some good things in the first 6, too.

"Conviction" and "Just Rewards" (eps 1 and 2) aren't real standouts, but they do a good job of setting the stage for the upcoming season. Spike is great in the second one, as you'd expect him to be.

"Unleashed" (3)... Hard to find anything good about this one. Gee, a boring episode written by Fain & Craft--what are the odds?

The idea behind "Hell Bound" (4) was good--to do a really frightening, "Blair Witch" kinda ep. Problem was, it didn't turn out near as scary as they probably hoped it would. Or at all, really. It also would've been nice if the story could've had some kind of emotional resonance for Spike--being haunted by ghosts from his own past, people he'd killed, for example--but instead they were just generic nobodies, and the whole thing kinda fell flat.

"Life of the Party" (5) was one I didn't like much the first time I saw it, but every time I've watched it since, it's grown on me a little more (like "Superstar" on Buffy). Wes and Fred completely steal the show in this one. The only thing I really still don't like about it is the Gunn storyline--just not my kind of humor...

And "The Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinco" (6) is one that I think most fans don't like, but is probably one of my favorites in the entire run of the series. The idea of it is as a tribute to the Mexican "Luchadores" films of the 1950s and 60s, which I think most people don't realize, and therefore don't get or like the concept of this episode. But the way Number Five's story was used to portray Angel's growing disenfranchisement with the work was great, and then Rob Kral's score (with the Latin guitar) just completely put the whole thing over the top. And with LA having such a large Hispanic population, it was nice that they finally did a story that featured them so prominently. I guess it's not an episode that suits everyone's tastes, but I love it.

(Also, I own the shirt Wesley wears throughout, which is very cool.

)

But yeah, once you get to 7, it's pretty much a non-stop run of fantastic episodes right through to the end (with the exception of 9, "Harm's Way", another Fain & Craft dud). For a solid block of 15 or 16 episodes, it's the only thing of Joss's that comes close to matching the consistent level of excellence of Firefly.

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Friday, May 12, 2006 11:40 AM

S1 is my favourite by a long shot, but S5 is it's spiritual successor in many ways ;)

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Sunday, May 14, 2006 1:17 AM

MINIME

vote for season 1...

which may say more about my stage of life than the quality of the show... oh, and I haven't actually finished watching season 5...

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Wednesday, May 17, 2006 12:28 PM

RUGBUG

Season Five is as good if just for the Fred/Illyria transformation. Argh, that just ripped my heart out. Actually most of the Illyria/Wes stuff was Just.So.Tragic. I had a hard time watching parts of it.

I could've done without much of Seasons 3-4....

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Wednesday, May 17, 2006 12:37 PM

Almost done watching all of season 5, just have to say that its way better then season 1 according to me. Was a bit sceptic once, but I take that back now

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Wednesday, May 17, 2006 12:37 PM

Almost done watching all of season 5, just have to say that its way better then season 1 according to me. Was a bit sceptic once, but I take that back now

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Wednesday, May 17, 2006 12:37 PM

Almost done watching all of season 5, just have to say that its way better then season 1 according to me. Was a bit sceptic once, but I take that back now

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Wednesday, May 17, 2006 12:37 PM

Almost done watching all of season 5, just have to say that its way better then season 1 according to me. Was a bit sceptic once, but I take that back now

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Wednesday, May 17, 2006 12:37 PM

Almost done watching all of season 5, just have to say that its way better then season 1 according to me. Was a bit sceptic once, but I take that back now

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Keep spreading the word about Firefly!

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Wednesday, May 17, 2006 12:37 PM

Almost done watching all of season 5, just have to say that its way better then season 1 according to me. Was a bit sceptic once, but I take that back now

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Wednesday, May 17, 2006 12:47 PM

CHRONICTHEHEDGEHOG

I can't believe the insane amount of spoilers in this post, Chrisisall I'd avoid coming back here again as it could ruin season 5 for you.

But is season 5 as good as season 1? No, it's better. Much much better. Season 1 is probably the worst season (and by that I don't mean it's bad).

Angel season 5 is firefly good. Dare I say it, it might even be better.

All the characters have so much more depth, the storylines are much better, the emotional impact is incredible. The only film media I've cried during are Serenity, the Buffy episode The Body and an episode of Angel season 5.

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Wednesday, May 17, 2006 2:00 PM

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Originally posted by chronicthehedgehog:
I can't believe the insane amount of spoilers in this post, Chrisisall I'd avoid coming back here again as it could ruin season 5 for you.

Thanks, Chronic, I read these posts using short-term memory only, spoilers do not concern me, Admiral, I want that SEASON!

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OOpps, slipped into Vader for a second

Chrisisall

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Sunday, May 21, 2006 3:30 AM

I'm finding out for myself right now. It's GREAT!!
Spike is the perfect foil for captain forehead!!
LMAO!!
And I'm only on ep 2!

Constantly amazed by Joss Chrisisall

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Sunday, May 21, 2006 4:52 PM

KWICKO

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Hold on to something - you're in for one hell of a ride.

As for "better" than S1, I can't really say. *I* liked it better, but I love all of Angel (and Buffy, AND Firefly) anyway, so it's kinda hard to pick favorites. I loved that S1 established the show, gave us its mission statement, etc., but I think the writing, sets, story arcs, and acting and dialog all got tighter as it went on. To me, S5 is the pinnacle of Angel; it was at its peak.

I even liked the Pylea episodes (S3), though. They were campy, kitsch, and fun... and Cordy's outfits didn't suck. :) And Lorne is just a hoot and a half. Maybe two hoots. Maybe a whole lot of hoot and a little bit of nanny.

The whole Cordy/Connor thing creeped me, but there were some other good storylines going on there, too, so it was worth the watching. Hell, I even watched 'em twice (gets easier the second time).

Mike

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Monday, May 22, 2006 4:10 AM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Hold on to something - you're in for one hell of a ride.

No kidding!!
Just saw Unleashed and Hellbound- whoahh.
Now, I really liked the first season, was hot and cold about the second, but the fifth has really hit the ground running for me (no doubt in large part because I find Spike such a great character), and DAMN, what great chemistry all around!
It's been said that Joss was in between Buffy and Serenity, and had a lot of fire in him at that moment, and boy does it look like he heated up everyone else on this season.
It's also been said that the first six or seven shows are the season's weakest-

Chrisisall, ready to be blown away...

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Wednesday, May 31, 2006 1:29 PM

Okay, season 5 blew me away except on two points. Killing Fred and switching her with the smurf was dumb, and the visuals on the last few minutes of Not Fade Away were somewhat lacking.

A great bunch of eps, though. The answer to my own question for me would be...almost.

Severe Chrisisall

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 10:22 AM

ZORPRIME01

I finally finished watching all of the Angel series recently, and here's my view of Season 5.

I think it has a lot of great episodes, but it's also very hit-and-miss, IMHO. I LOVE the whole series, mind you, but it seems that most of the seasons have some lesser episodes, that's just how t.v. series are (well, except Firefly ;)

I'd say the best parts of season 5 are the returns of Spike, Cordy and Lindsey, and the ending episode itself. Illyria's a fun character too, as are the brief appearances of Connor. I think the ending ep of the series, though rushed, does quite a job of tying things up without drawing them to a final conclusion. It's a pretty satisfying ending!

That said, I honestly can't see any reason for fans to find Season 5 better than most of the others, aside from the Spike/Buffy connection. Taking Angel as a series in and of itself, I still think the best seasons by far are 2 & 3 (and yeah, I like the Pylea eps too!).

1 & 5 seem very hit-and-miss to me, though admittedly they have some great episodes in them. 4 is bizarre, but I still enjoyed most of it.

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 10:30 AM

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Originally posted by zorprime01:

It's a pretty satisfying ending!

In an epic, never-ending sense I agree.
In a closure-sense...

But, like anything else, it's what you take from it!

Cool, Z.

Chrisisall, Spike fan

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Monday, June 19, 2006 7:41 PM

Well, having only seen half each of seasons 1 and 2 (more of season 2) and read the transcripts for the last three seasons, I will say that judging from writing alone, I like seasons 4 and 5 much better than the first few. Actually, Serenity is my first love, then Firefly, then Buffy, and lastly Angel, so I'm not sure if the lighter tone of the first part of the fifth season appeals to me. But I will say that I wept three times while reading the scripts for Angel's last season: once when Cordelia died in "You're Welcome," once when Fred died in "Shells," and for much of "Not Fade Away." When the writing alone is that powerful, I tend to think season 5 is great. We'll see if that holds up when I watch the episodes this fall. Looking forward to it.

However, I do like the message of Not Fade Away, open-ended as it may be. Thematically, it's as closed as a...um, really closed thing.

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Tuesday, June 20, 2006 6:16 AM

I read the scenes from Not Fade Away, and I think it read better than it played out onscreen. The final result seemed less epic when actually seeing it, but maybe that's just me- it WAS really great anyway, though...

Chrisisall Fading out, never away

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Tuesday, June 20, 2006 1:20 PM

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Hey Chris, I thought you (and others) would like this essay on Cordy:

http://forums.prospero.com/n/mb/display.asp?webtag=foxfirefly&msg=3065
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Tuesday, June 20, 2006 1:43 PM

Very in depth and incredibly detailed...
Looks to be written by a fan...

Stating the....Chrisisall

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Tuesday, June 20, 2006 2:05 PM

Very in depth and incredibly detailed...
Looks to be written by a fan...

Stating the....Chrisisall

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Tuesday, June 20, 2006 2:05 PM

Very in depth and incredibly detailed...
Looks to be written by a fan...

Stating the....Chrisisall

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Tuesday, June 20, 2006 2:05 PM

Very in depth and incredibly detailed...
Looks to be written by a fan...

Stating the....Chrisisall

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Friday, June 23, 2006 10:17 AM

Hey 'C'man always a pleasure to indulge in a little Chrisisall curiosity :D

I'd have to opt for season One over season Five.

Season one felt as though they were writing to establish an audience, the stories were imaginative and entertaining. Season five felt as though they were giving the audience what they wanted, case in point: the ubiquitous or should that be the omnipotent SPIKE. The most shoe-horned character in the Whedon verse. As such, for me the stories in season five though at times enjoyable had too many contrivances for ultimate pleasure.

I prefered Angel when he was struggling from the basement with barely competent sidekicks at his er....side.
I still don't really understand the concept of Wolfram and Hart in season Five and I could not fathom the part the 'gang' played in the building which seemed full of busy bodying people whom our characters took little to no time to familiarise themselves with! I mean what the hell were ALL those people supposed to be doing?

Anyway still a top show by any accounts but Season One stands proud. (For me anyway)

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Friday, June 23, 2006 10:51 AM

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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:

Anyway still a top show by any accounts but Season One stands proud. (For me anyway)

I agree.
But I did like Spike in season 5; then again, I just liked Spike. But there were moments when season 5 was "Angel N' Spike".

Chrisisall

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Saturday, June 24, 2006 9:57 AM

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Originally posted by tamnumber1:
Well, having only seen half each of seasons 1 and 2 (more of season 2) and read the transcripts for the last three seasons

Wha?? You read the transcripts without seeing the episodes? I don't get it...

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Saturday, June 24, 2006 10:27 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:

Anyway still a top show by any accounts but Season One stands proud. (For me anyway)

I agree.
But I did like Spike in season 5; then again, I just liked Spike. But there were moments when season 5 was "Angel N' Spike".

Chrisisall

Y'know I'm wonderng if there is an argument for having a Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel dvd box set and labeling it:

Spike - the Vampire, the Slayer, the Savior!

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Saturday, June 24, 2006 10:38 AM

You crack me up, mate.

Chrisisall the Bloody

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Saturday, June 24, 2006 10:49 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
You crack me up, mate.

Chrisisall the Bloody

Likewise pal...

Look I know I got a Spike problem... I'm working on it, I go to therapy with other Spike problem individuals... Actually so far it's just me... But I'm hopefull there will be others...

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Saturday, June 24, 2006 10:54 AM

Dude, check this out, you are not alone...
http://forum.buffyworld.com/showthread.php?t=21440

For theraputic purposes only Chrisisall

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Saturday, June 24, 2006 11:06 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Dude, check this out, you are not alone...
http://forum.buffyworld.com/showthread.php?t=21440

For theraputic purposes only Chrisisall

HA! Cheers dood :D that's a relief.

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Saturday, June 24, 2006 3:15 PM

I don't have access to the DVDs at this point. Will in the fall. And I'm impatient.

"I had a plan. It was a good plan. Strategic. I got bored." -In the Dark

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Sunday, June 25, 2006 10:04 AM

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Originally posted by tamnumber1:
I don't have access to the DVDs at this point. Will in the fall. And I'm impatient.

But if you read the scripts in advance, how can you hope to enjoy the episodes as fully as you might have if you watched them fresh?

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Sunday, June 25, 2006 7:46 PM

Ah, but I love spoilers. I read spoilers for "Amends," most of Buffy season six, and all of Buffy season seven, and still loved them all. Besides, how is being spoiled different from rewatching, which is something else I love to do? Admittedly, the suspense isn't as intense for some moments, but you can focus on things like character, details in acting and writing, and cinematography. Not to mention music.

Plus, I watched Firefly after I saw Serenity, so all the "[blank character] is dead/going to die" moments were completely unsuspenseful to me, and I think that they are the weakest moments anyway. It's not about the suspense, it's about the quality of the art in characters and visuals (and music), at least for me.

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Sunday, June 25, 2006 11:10 PM

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Originally posted by tamnumber1:
how is being spoiled different from rewatching, which is something else I love to do?

Because it means you never actually saw the episode unspoiled, so you can never know how the viewing experience would have differed.

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Monday, June 26, 2006 7:29 AM

I guess it all comes down to whether you like to be spoiled or not. I like it. I understand that others don't. But I don't think my way is "lesser" than unspoiled.

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Monday, June 26, 2006 4:11 PM

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Originally posted by Grounded:
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Originally posted by tamnumber1:
how is being spoiled different from rewatching, which is something else I love to do?

Because it means you never actually saw the episode unspoiled, so you can never know how the viewing experience would have differed.

I'm one of those people who adore the unspoiled viewing,
where I have no idea what is going to happen next and everything is a shock and a surprise.

But OTOH I didn't have that opportunity w/Firefly
(because Fox ran the pilot last, so I knew Simon wasn't a bad guy and that Kaylee wouldn't die....)

I still think that spoiler free is the way to go,
and I love introducing Firefly to friends who don't know the 'verse and can experience it as it should have been....

but I get it that some people hate surprises:
they read the ends of books first and they always search out spoilers. It seems crazy to me, but hey, each to his or her own!

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Monday, June 26, 2006 11:32 PM

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Originally posted by tamnumber1:
I guess it all comes down to whether you like to be spoiled or not. I like it. I understand that others don't. But I don't think my way is "lesser" than unspoiled.

Fair enough. Do you do this for all tv shows?

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Tuesday, June 27, 2006 4:38 AM