SO will UPN ride to the rescue? by rkwalsh

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SO will UPN ride to the rescue?

POSTED BY: RKWALSH
UPDATED: Monday, March 1, 2004 06:50
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Wednesday, February 18, 2004 8:22 AM

Forget fox i am starting to hate the WB it didn't show any loyalty to Buffy there would have bee nothing after Buffy's sacrificed herself for Dawn if UPN hadn't to paraphrase Joss Whedon "when WB dumped us UPN married us" and now it let's go of angel too darn them all to heck. So are the ratings that bad? Would it be worth it for UPN to adopt Angel? Is there a petition to sign?

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Thursday, February 19, 2004 10:20 AM

RITA

Well i do like Girlfriends and Half and Half but yeah there other programs are weak. If they have Enterprise on that must mean they have a sci-fi fan base so wouldn't they be interested in BUffy's sucessor?

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Friday, February 20, 2004 4:36 AM

CONEJITA

Too true other than a few select show's UPN's lineup is weak. But does anyone know if a show with Angel's ratings (never as big as buffy's despites it's being a much higher caliber show) would be a boon to the network?

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Saturday, February 21, 2004 8:31 AM

RITA

Hey i have already posted here but i wanted to post it up on the main board again to see if anyone had any details? Sorry for taking up valuable space.

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Saturday, February 21, 2004 9:10 AM

INVISIBLEGREEN

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Originally posted by rkwalsh:
Forget fox i am starting to hate the WB it didn't show any loyalty to Buffy there would have bee nothing after Buffy's sacrificed herself for Dawn if UPN hadn't to paraphrase Joss Whedon "when WB dumped us UPN married us" and now it let's go of angel too darn them all to heck. So are the ratings that bad? Would it be worth it for UPN to adopt Angel? Is there a petition to sign?

First of all, if UPN hadn't picked up BtVS, FOX would have. But UPN offered more money. The WB never cancelled BtVS, they just held off (too late) on paying what Twentieth Century Fox wanted, until the point when the show became fair game for all networks to pick up. The WB has been bitter about losing BtVS ever since.

"Angel's" ratings aren't bad, they are OK. They ratings are actually significantly up this season. But it's a very expensive program. If UPN were to pick up "Angel," they wouldn't make much of a profit. UPN actually lost money on BtVS, but they took the risk because they hoped to attract new viewers to their network. There is a small chance that UPN will pick up "Angel," but it isn't looking too good.

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Saturday, February 21, 2004 9:30 AM

RITA

OH DAMN!

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Saturday, February 28, 2004 2:49 PM

GHOULMAN

Well, here's to seeing Joss in a movie career. I'm thinking he'll make the leap with alacrity and enjoy the freedom of doing it without some WB, UPN, wonk coming along every few years (or months in this case) and saying 'oh, and you're fired'.

Dear wonks, if your reading this I'd like to pass along a mere opinion regarding your treatment of Joss and his crew ...

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Saturday, February 28, 2004 3:03 PM

LITWOLF689

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Originally posted by rkwalsh:
Is there a petition to sign?

If you go to PetitionOline.com and search for Angel, there is a petition somewhere for UPN to pick up Angel. Good luck finding it though, there are a lot of petitions in there!

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Saturday, February 28, 2004 3:46 PM

INFRA172

I'm so damned tired of people saying "but it's an expensive show". It's not. It's been said many times that they do a lot with little. It's not an expensive show. There's only one reason why Angel was cancelled. The WB is putting together a new vampire show and they didn't want to have two of them on their network. It'll probably be a [flying goat testicles] and get cancelled after five episodes, but we'll still be deprived of our Whedon fix. That's the truth. All these other reasons simply aren't true.

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Sunday, February 29, 2004 10:47 AM

INSANESPIKE

In all honesty, I don't think we'll ever know the TRUE reason "Angel" was cancelled. After reading all the statements made by the WB executives, and then finding out that about everything said in those statements were all false, I've pretty much given up on there being an actual real reason given. Something is going on behind closed doors that we don't, and probably never will, know about. It seems to me to be nothing more than stupid executive politics.

"How drunk was I last night?"

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Sunday, February 29, 2004 11:10 AM

INVISIBLEGREEN

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Originally posted by infra172:
I'm so damned tired of people saying "but it's an expensive show". It's not. It's been said many times that they do a lot with little. It's not an expensive show. There's only one reason why Angel was cancelled. The WB is putting together a new vampire show and they didn't want to have two of them on their network. It'll probably be a [flying goat testicles] and get cancelled after five episodes, but we'll still be deprived of our Whedon fix. That's the truth. All these other reasons simply aren't true.

The main reason "Angel" was cancelled was too make room for new shows. To them "Angel" is stale. Something else they could bring in would have much higher ratings. They also want to be able to rerun new shows during the same week, which would require a free time slot. Since "Angel's" rating's-to-cost ratio is pretty low, The WB put it on the chopping block.

Angel is an expensive show. It's true that they do a lot with a little, but it's still expensive. Reality shows and sitcoms are MUCH cheaper (except for "Friends," etc.).

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Sunday, February 29, 2004 11:47 AM

MISGUIDED BY VOICES

Quote:
Originally posted by infra172:
I'm so damned tired of people saying "but it's an expensive show". It's not. It's been said many times that they do a lot with little. It's not an expensive show. There's only one reason why Angel was cancelled. The WB is putting together a new vampire show and they didn't want to have two of them on their network. It'll probably be a [flying goat testicles] and get cancelled after five episodes, but we'll still be deprived of our Whedon fix. That's the truth. All these other reasons simply aren't true.

Yes, because having two successful shows would be a bad thing. I've heard this rumour that they didn't want two vampire shows, and that may have something to do with it, but they cancelled Angel because it wasn't doing enough for them in the short term for the amount of money that they were throwing at it. They also have enough episodes to syndicate as of the end of this year, so everything else is just lagniappe.

"I threw up on your bed"

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Monday, March 1, 2004 6:47 AM

ANGEL10101

yah there are many petitiions to sign. most of them are right one main page of www.petitiononline.com and and there are 3 there at the moment. ALso there are 4 new one here they are http://www.petitiononline.com/lpgs/petition.html
http://www.petitiononline.com/atss6rwb/petition.htmlhttp://www.petitio
nonline.com/1197k/petition.html
http://www.petitiononline.com/1197k/petition.html
http://www.petitiononline.com/ats5/petition.html

also a lot of good idea for petitioning are at www.savingangel.com
www.saveangel.org
www.supportangel.com

anymore questions you can email me. also tell you friends to sign the perition and write postcards to wb,upm,tnt,and fox. thaz

angels the best keep it up

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Monday, March 1, 2004 6:50 AM

ANGEL10101

you can see angel rating for last week on www.saveangel.org. also look down the page or go to www.savingangel.com they have the best idea to save angel. www.supportangel.com has all the address where you can send postcards to to save angel. also tell you friends to send postcards. the more people you tell to save angel the more chances the are for upn to pick up the show.

angel the best keep up the good work

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