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UPDATED: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 10:02
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Wednesday, March 28, 2007 2:50 AM

I had heard of a series that was supposed to come on lifetime that was apparently a cheap knockoff of Angel. Anyone remember what it was called/ I'm looking forward to checking it out. Thanks.

-DanielFyre

"real men juggle geese"

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Wednesday, March 28, 2007 3:02 AM

MAVOURNEEN

Yes, it's called "Blood Ties", based on Tanya Huff's popular series of books.

http://www.tv.com/blood-ties/show/68415/summary.html

Haven't watched it yet but planned to tivo it.

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Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:42 PM

MISSTRESSAHARA

Keep in mind these books were written way before Angel or buffy were produced, so to say cheap knockoff, the other way round applies.

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"We can be Heroes.... if just for one day."[/]

~*Peter* Peter*; power *re-peater*~

What do you mean I have to wait
4 fricken weeks for Heroes?

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Sunday, April 1, 2007 2:34 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Quote:
Originally posted by DanielFyre:
I had heard of a series that was supposed to come on lifetime that was apparently a cheap knockoff of Angel. Anyone remember what it was called/ I'm looking forward to checking it out. Thanks.

-DanielFyre

"real men juggle geese"

I saw the pilot episode, and it didn't suck. ( pardon the pun ) That is to say, I found it very watchable. Unfortunatly, it comes on at 10pm Sun nights, the same time as Battlestar Galactica, so I missed the next couple of episodes.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Sunday, April 1, 2007 10:15 PM

JWHEDONADDICT

I can't comment on the books because I've never read them. I don't care if they came first, but I still wouldn't consider BUFFY a cheap knock off of it. In terms of quality as a series, BUFFY wins hands down, I'm sorry. There's just no contest. I tried to watch this show, and though I didn't completely hate it, I can't seem to get invested in it at all. I like the lead actress okay, but the rest of the cast just seems dull as a post.

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Sunday, April 1, 2007 10:23 PM

MISSTRESSAHARA

That's alright jwa, I can't stand Buffy because of SMG, and the girl who plays Tara, or the others, I don't care for any of the cast frankly. Now if they'd gotten the girl who played her in the movie..... maybe. Then again I like the movie a hell of a lot better. I'm funny that way. Not a cheap knockoff, but a knockoff.

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"We can be Heroes.... if just for one day."[/]

~*Peter* Peter*; power *re-peater*~

What do you mean I have to wait
3 fricken weeks for Heroes?

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Monday, April 2, 2007 7:55 PM

JWHEDONADDICT

I actually think Kristy Swanson is a horrible actress, and although I didn't hate the BUFFY movie as much as most other people, I still hate that Joss's vision for it was raped by director Fran Kuzui.

I'm not a fan of SMG, either, though it's mostly for personal reasons I won't get into than her acting ability. I actually think she is one of the best actresses in her age group out there...although you wouldn't be able to tell that from her movie choices alone.

Still wouldn't consider it (or ANGEL) a knockoff of this series of books. The only things they really have in common is that it's supernatural, the lead (female in this case) is a PI, and she is attracted to a vampire. Other than that, nothing. It just feels like a typical Lifetime series that happens to have supernatural things in it. Take that out and it's as ordinary as anything else. Even the snarkiness is lame (usually) in this show, but at least it's there so I won't complain too much.

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Monday, April 2, 2007 8:06 PM

JADEHAND

I see all of Harry Potter the same way after reading "the books of magic" from Neil Gaimen. Find those first 4 graphic novels. Enjoy Timothy Hunter.

"I will stare from the window
At the shapes in the rain." -Beyond You - Afraid of Sunlight -Marillion
visit WWW.Marillion.com for a better way of life.

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Tuesday, April 3, 2007 7:59 AM

JWHEDONADDICT

I'd like to retract my harsh statement about Kristy Swanson. I don't think she's really 'horrible' exactly, I just don't see her as being able to portray the emotional depth necessary for the Buffy character. While KS is actually fine in the roles she's played (the ones I've seen anyway, which is about 3 or 4 different movies), SMG is usually flawless in this area. Regardless of what I think of her personally, SMG IS Buffy.

As for the rest of the cast(s), I'm not saying every person who ever acted on each show is the most perfect actor or actress at all times, but each one is right for the part they were chosen for. Each one had something that made me care about the character they played. It goes without saying how much I love Joss (hence my name), but even with his brilliant writing, I strongly doubt I could love each character as much as I do without the right actor in the part.

I'm just not seeing that with BLOOD TIES. Like I said, I like the actress, and I'm kind of liking the guy that plays Henry, but I am just not feeling that undefinable thing that pulls me in the way BUFFY, ANGEL, and FIREFLY have.

This 'thing' has actually ruined tv for me. See, I have this problem with trying to find 'it' in other shows and have only been successful a few times. GENERAL HOSPITAL (even when it's bloody awful, a select few characters always keep me coming back), ALIAS (mainly, the relationship between Sydney and her father), LOST (pretty much everything about it), and VERONICA MARS (I tried it out because Joss loved it so but the characters and the writing kept me glued--it's BUFFY/NANCY DREW and if it's cancelled too soon I will be almost as depressed as when FIREFLY ended).

"In Joss We Trust."

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Wednesday, April 4, 2007 6:49 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by jwhedonaddict:
Regardless of what I think of her personally, SMG IS Buffy.

Curious, what's wrong with her personally? Freddie Prinze, Jr. seems to like her well enough...

Enquiring Chrisisall

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Wednesday, April 4, 2007 10:01 AM

JWHEDONADDICT

She has said and done some things that I've found pretty offensive. Not that any of it was actually directed at me personally, but these things still hurt me deeply. It's not something I've been able to let go of for some reason, and I'll leave it at that.

At the time of the last incedent, I was pretty blunt about my dislike of her on a BUFFY board, and I'm trying to not do that anymore. Let's just say my comments about David Boreanaz, Emma Caulfield and Kristy Swanson really pale in comparison to what I've said about SMG elsewhere.

Edit: It's all I can do to keep my mouth shut about her hubby as well.

"In Joss We Trust."

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Wednesday, April 4, 2007 10:27 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by jwhedonaddict:

Edit: It's all I can do to keep my mouth shut about her hubby as well.

Oh, it a live-action Scooby Doo thing, hmmmmm?

Just kidding Chrisisall

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Wednesday, April 4, 2007 10:29 AM

JWHEDONADDICT

All there really is to say about that is

"In Joss We Trust."

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Wednesday, April 4, 2007 10:31 AM

CHRISISALL

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Originally posted by jwhedonaddict:
All there really is to say about that is

Hey- the second one was pretty good....

Shaggy Chrisisall

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Wednesday, April 4, 2007 10:41 AM

JWHEDONADDICT

I love Seth Green and Linda Cardellini, but they are so much better than this!!!

Okay, Seth actually likes cheese, but Linda is frigging Lindsey from FREAKS & GEEKS!!!

"In Joss We Trust."

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Wednesday, April 4, 2007 11:05 AM

DEEPGIRL187

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Hey- the second one was pretty good....

Shaggy Chrisisall

The second one???? Sheesh and I thought you had taste Chrisisall.

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Wednesday, April 4, 2007 11:07 AM

CHRISISALL

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Originally posted by deepgirl187:

The second one???? Sheesh and I thought you had taste Chrisisall.

No love for CGI Scoob.

Chrisisall

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Wednesday, April 4, 2007 11:37 AM

JWHEDONADDICT

I think I might be speaking for deepgirl, too.

How drunk were you when you watched it?

"In Joss We Trust."

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Wednesday, April 4, 2007 11:48 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by jwhedonaddict:

How drunk were you when you watched it?

I watch it with my eight year old son, and we totally like it...although it's probably not something I would look at on my own

Scooby Doo! Chrisisall

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Wednesday, April 4, 2007 11:51 AM

JWHEDONADDICT

Are you sure about that with that evil grin?!

"In Joss We Trust."

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Wednesday, April 4, 2007 11:57 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by jwhedonaddict:
Are you sure about that with that evil grin?!

There is that Shaggy factor, Matthew is hi-larious. And SMG is in it...all right, I would have looked at it anyway...

Confessin' Chrisisall

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Wednesday, April 4, 2007 12:02 PM

JWHEDONADDICT

Not a Matthew Lillard fan either, sorry. Xander's it for me!!!

"In Joss We Trust."

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 1:16 PM

DANIELFYRE

It has been...a few weeks since I started this topic and in that time I have caught up with Blood Ties and retract my "cheap angel knockoff" comment. It is NOWHERE near Angel and I agree that its the characters that arn't pulling me in as much as I'd hope but its watchable. The Henry character in my opinion is what I watch the show for, he seems to have some deepness that the other characters lack, perhaps that was intended but I don't know its a good enough show. Thanks for the help with the name, guys it was much appreciated.

-DanielFyre

"real men juggle geese"

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 1:56 PM

JWHEDONADDICT

I'm liking Henry, but I like Vicky, too. I guess the Mike guy has gotten a little more interesting since he discovered Henry's a vamp, but still he's kind of a boring, one-note character in general. If he's supposedly this show's version of Xander (I'm going by the jealousy of Henry only), he well, really pales in comparison.

"In Joss We Trust."

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Tuesday, April 24, 2007 3:12 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Quote:
jwhedonaddict wrote:
Wednesday, April 04, 2007 10:01
She has said and done some things that I've found pretty offensive. Not that any of it was actually directed at me personally, but these things still hurt me deeply. It's not something I've been able to let go of for some reason, and I'll leave it at that.

This is the part where I say.. ." Huh ". I'm a huge fan of the shows, but I guess it helps that I'm also naive about pretty much everything per the actors and the off stage stuff.

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At the time of the last incedent, I was pretty blunt about my dislike of her on a BUFFY board, and I'm trying to not do that anymore. Let's just say my comments about David Boreanaz, Emma Caulfield and Kristy Swanson really pale in comparison to what I've said about SMG elsewhere.

There were incidents now, were they ? Wow.

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Edit: It's all I can do to keep my mouth shut about her hubby as well.

"In Joss We Trust."

I have no idea on what the story is here, but I'm guessing that not every one is a Nathan Fillion when it comes to working with Joss.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Wednesday, April 25, 2007 10:02 AM

JWHEDONADDICT

No, they aren't.

"Our fate has to be our own, or we're nothing."--Angel
"In Joss We Trust."

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