One Last Cast Review (Angel) by Delia

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One Last Cast Review (Angel)

POSTED BY: DELIA
UPDATED: Thursday, May 20, 2004 07:05
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Monday, May 10, 2004 11:39 AM

POLLING IS CLOSED.

Same rules, since Elwoodmom did such a great job with them -- vote for your favorite guy and girl, and we'll see who wins. One vote per category per person, and no proxy voting (so don't bother polling your friends). It doesn't have to be regular cast members, so votes for major guest stars (like Drucilla) are okay, as are votes for Gunhand.

FINAL RESULTS

WESLEY & FRED/ILLYRIA

Wesley and Fred/Illyia win, despite a late surge by Spike. (But unless there's been an odd flurry of voting in the last four minutes on the Buffy board, Spike won that one, so Spike fans shouldn't feel too bad.)

Wes (10)
Spike (9)
Angel (4)
Hamilton (WDJ) (3)
Connor (1)
Groosalug (1)
Lindsey (1)
Lorne (1)

Fred/Illyria (13)
Cordelia (4)
Faith (3)
Darla (2)
Drusilla (2)
Lilah (2)
Willow (2)
Buffy (1)

The Buffy Poll is at http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=9&t=5139

Once the Buffy and Angel polls have been closed, Elwoodmom and I will be pitting the winners against each other in a Championship Match to see which Whedon Characters are the absolute favorites on the board.

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Monday, May 10, 2004 11:40 AM

DELIA

I've got to go with Wes and Fred.

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Monday, May 10, 2004 11:42 AM

EMBERS

My favorites are Spike and Willow
(that is for both BtVS and for Ats, since they have both done both shows)

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Monday, May 10, 2004 11:44 AM

DELIA

Embers,

Okay -- I'm putting you down for Spike and Willow for both shows.

Delia

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Monday, May 10, 2004 12:38 PM

BIKISDAD

girl - Fred.
guy - Wes.

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Monday, May 10, 2004 12:46 PM

ATHERTONWING

Guy- Angel

Girl- willow

thats my vote :)

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Monday, May 10, 2004 12:52 PM

ZORIAH

Male: Wesley ( I love Spike but I voted for him on BtVS where he was more showcased, I think Wes has really developed as a character and has become fascinating to me)

Female: Fred as Illyria. Loved caring sweet Fred, but the blue smurf is dynamite and intriguing.

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Monday, May 10, 2004 1:04 PM

MSCKAREN

Wes for the man

So many great women... hmmm...coming down to Darla or Lila

Okay, okay - Darla! (Got to see her bad and good)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Appears they've canceled the show and we're still here. What does that make us?"
"Big damn junkies, Sir!"
"Ain't we just."

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Monday, May 10, 2004 1:15 PM

MALICIOUS

I've got to go with Lindsey and Cordelia. And Mal.

Mal-licious

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Monday, May 10, 2004 1:19 PM

DARKJESTER

Male - Spike. He has the snappier one-liners. Plus, Angel had his soul thrust upon him. Spike went out and fought to get his back - one or two extra points for the character there.
Female - Fred/Ilyria. Fred was very cute, and a decent character, but Ms Acker has some meat to work with now that she's playing Ilyria.

MAL "You only gotta scare him."
JAYNE "Pain is scary..."

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Monday, May 10, 2004 1:36 PM

GUNHAND

I've never seen Angel in my life, so gonna hold off on voting for a bit.

Time to do some google research methinks.

~-~-~-~-~-~-~-
"Oh hey, I got an idea. Instead of us hanging
around playing art critic till I get pinched by
the Man, how's about we move away from this
eerie-ass piece of work and get on with our
increasingly eerie-ass day, how's that?"

My eerie-ass website:
http://gunhandsfirefly.homestead.com/Index.html

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Monday, May 10, 2004 1:43 PM

NEROLI

Guy: Marcus Hamilton
Girl: Illyria

I can't believe Adam's guest spot has no other votes yet!! Mmmm....WDJ...yummies.

Never cared much for Fred, but I am so loving Amy's work as Illyria.

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Monday, May 10, 2004 5:05 PM

ELWOODMOM

Delia, do you think my vote should count? I've never seen an episode of Angel, but I'd like to vote for Adam Baldwin, since I've been a fan of his since the early 80's. I'm confident that if I saw Angel, I'd still vote for AB, but I understand if you feel that it doesn't qualify.

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Monday, May 10, 2004 5:11 PM

DELIA

Quote:
Originally posted by Elwoodmom:
Delia, do you think my vote should count? I've never seen an episode of Angel, but I'd like to vote for Adam Baldwin, since I've been a fan of his since the early 80's. I'm confident that if I saw Angel, I'd still vote for AB, but I understand if you feel that it doesn't qualify.

Why not? This isn't terribly scientific-like. I've already told Gunhand that he gets to break any ties in the Buffy poll. I'll count your vote for Hamilton.

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Monday, May 10, 2004 5:15 PM

GUNHAND

Oh hey good idea! If Adam was on Angel, and I'm told he was I vote for him too! Have to give mad props to my sorta-kinda-brother right?

For the women though...still researching.

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Monday, May 10, 2004 5:31 PM

GUNHAND

Aha! Christina Hendricks (YoSaffBridge) played a bar maid in Angel. So you know what that means...I vote for Bar Maid!

I really need to learn that clinky beer mug emotamabob...

~-~-~-~-~-~-~-
"Oh hey, I got an idea. Instead of us hanging
around playing art critic till I get pinched by
the Man, how's about we move away from this
eerie-ass piece of work and get on with our
increasingly eerie-ass day, how's that?"

My eerie-ass website:
http://gunhandsfirefly.homestead.com/Index.html

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Monday, May 10, 2004 5:35 PM

DELIA

Quote:
Originally posted by Gunhand:
Aha! Christina Hendricks (YoSaffBridge) played a bar maid in Angel. So you know what that means...I vote for Bar Maid!

I really need to learn that clinky beer mug emotamabob...

The word for the beer emoticon is cheers.

I will allow votes for Adam as Hamilton. I will allow votes for Gina as Jasmine. HOWEVER, I said MAJOR guest stars, so I will not allow YoSafBridge as Bar Maid. Sorry, please choose again.

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Monday, May 10, 2004 5:38 PM

GUNHAND

She's major, I mean I capitalized Bar Maid...I mean...umm...not gonna let me slide on this one are ya?

Back to research.

*sulk*

~-~-~-~-~-~-~-
"Oh hey, I got an idea. Instead of us hanging
around playing art critic till I get pinched by
the Man, how's about we move away from this
eerie-ass piece of work and get on with our
increasingly eerie-ass day, how's that?"

My eerie-ass website:
http://gunhandsfirefly.homestead.com/Index.html

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Monday, May 10, 2004 5:39 PM

DELIA

Quote:
Originally posted by Gunhand:
She's major, I mean I capitalized Bar Maid...I mean...umm...not gonna let me slide on this one are ya?

Back to research.

*sulk*

Sulk all you want, hon, but you don't get to me the king of EVERY thread.

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Monday, May 10, 2004 7:06 PM

ANGELDOVE

I know this wasn't part of the polling question, but I liked Lindsey and Darla as my favorite guest stars.

Since I put Spike down for Buffy, I am going to go with Angel. (Though it is hard for me to decide which show I liked each of them on the best)

And for girl I will go with Ilyria. I wasn't a big fan of Fred, but I love her as Ilyria and never realized what a great actress she was until she went back and forth from Ilyria to Fred in the same breath, it was moving. The only other character that played both sides of good and evil on that show was David. One of my favorite Angelus episodes was just on TNT, "Souless", it was mostly dialouge and wonderfully done. For an episode with very little action, it was surprisingly gripping, and would have been easily forgetable if not for DB's great portrayal of Angelus.

Quote:
ANGELUS: Which do you think is worse, Wes? Stealing my kid like you did, or banging him, like Cordelia. All that bumping and grinding. Fire raining in the sky. Quite a picture. Well, more of a snapshot, 'cause Connor—

Ahh, gives me goose bumps just thinking about it.

"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the road less traveled by and they CANCELLED MY FRIKKIN' SHOW. I totally shoulda took the road that had all those people on it. Damn." --Joss

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Monday, May 10, 2004 7:10 PM

GUNHAND

Ahem, new information has come to my attention and I proudly, yes proudly and without any hesitation or reservation whatsoever cast my vote for Cordelia.

I know I can't win all the threads, but if I don't try people will think I'm not feeling well.

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Monday, May 10, 2004 7:10 PM

ELWOODMOM

>>Why not? This isn't terribly scientific-like. I've already told Gunhand that he gets to break any ties in the Buffy poll. I'll count your vote for Hamilton.<<

Oh, goody!

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Tuesday, May 11, 2004 12:17 AM

DELIA

Quote:
Originally posted by Gunhand:
Ahem, new information has come to my attention and I proudly, yes proudly and without any hesitation or reservation whatsoever cast my vote for Cordelia.

Am I to read between the lines that this means you found the link to the Playboy shoot?

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Tuesday, May 11, 2004 12:18 AM

DELIA

Thanks for the votes, everybody. I'm updating the leaderboard.

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Tuesday, May 11, 2004 12:32 AM

NEROLI

Quote:
Originally posted by Delia:
Am I to read between the lines that this means you found the link to the Playboy shoot?

Not sure found would be the correct term Delia...was sent the link is a bit closer.

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Tuesday, May 11, 2004 12:35 AM

GUNHAND

Quote:
Originally posted by Neroli:
Quote:
Originally posted by Delia:
Am I to read between the lines that this means you found the link to the Playboy shoot?

Not sure found would be the correct term Delia...was sent the link is a bit closer.

Semantics...but I'm aware of this development now, yes.

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Tuesday, May 11, 2004 12:42 AM

NEROLI

Yes, it is a simple case of semantics...and I have no doubt that your research into the various cast members would have turned it up eventually...but there is a certain pride in bringing it to your attention before that happened.

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Tuesday, May 11, 2004 3:53 AM

IDEFIX

I'm still stuck in mid s3 angelwise. maybe I shouldn't vote yet. but I think male vote has to got to Wes, he's cute and sexy and interesting and changable and I heard there are dark!Wes parts coming up. or maybe Spike just because he's Spike. but I also like Angel but not that much. but maybe I should vote for Lorne. he's cute, green and cute and he hasn't got one vote yet. and I always loved Dennis the ghost, best ghost ever. I think I'll wait a bit.
how long's the review open anyway?

female? I'm not sure... no really all that interesting females there. mabe Faith? or Drucilla? Darla always got on my nerves, she has a very whiny voice and I never liked her not bad not maybe-good not human or vampire I always cheered when she got staked or staked herself. Cordy is ok. Fred is kinda sweet but she doesn't come up to Willow or even Kaylee sweetness. I should watch the rest of it before deciding but I don't think the poll will be open that long. I have two and a half seasons left to watch and no holidays coming. voting for Willow on an Angel poll seems not right somehow.

Idefix

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Tuesday, May 11, 2004 3:54 AM

DAVEY

I thought about it and ended up with the same characters as I did with the Buffy vote, I dont really like Angel when hes all dark and moody and was never really convinced by Wes's transformation from geeky librarian to stone cold killer, and all the females, Cordy apart, just seemed like filler to me.
So Spike and Faith it is.

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Tuesday, May 11, 2004 4:59 AM

DELIA

Thanks for the vote, Davey, and Idefix, take your time. The polls will be open at least through the weekend (because I'm out of town this weekend and won't be here to close them). Feel free to vote based on however much of the show you've seen -- people are voting on here who have never seen an episode, so you're well ahead of them!

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Tuesday, May 11, 2004 6:06 AM

IDEFIX

Quote:
Originally posted by Delia:
Feel free to vote based on however much of the show you've seen -- people are voting on here who have never seen an episode, so you're well ahead of them!

that's right. 3.5 seasons ahead *biggrin*. so shame on you blind (or playboy educated) voters. watch it! it's worth it.

maybe I should watch some of the latest EPs to get a peak of Illyria or whomever Fred is now or whatever (I'm just spoiled here, no actual knowledge of what's going on). she seems to be popular and since I don't have a real favorite female...

those polls are fun, that's sure. even if you have to decide on _one_ vote and really can't. I'm so torn. Lorne is a damn cute green demon. but Wesley is something too. just think back when the 'rogue demon hunter' arrived in LA. and everybody kept asking "what's a 'rogue demon' anyway?". and leather chafes even more than tweed. I just saw the EP where Cordy got demonised and the wishverse Cordy actress/star ran into one-armed Wes and was so surprised to see him fight demons and not faint.

Idefix

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Tuesday, May 11, 2004 7:23 AM

DELIA

Idefix,

Well, I'm a Wes fan personally, but I also really really like Lorne, though for very different reasons. Plus, Lorne can sing. But Wes after about the middle of third season is VERY different than Wes before -- keep watching, and you'll see.

Delia

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Tuesday, May 11, 2004 10:04 AM

RUXTON

Wesley and Faith.

Eliza was at her best on "Angel."
And I used to HATE Alexis!

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Tuesday, May 11, 2004 12:34 PM

KAYKATH

Wesley!, Watcher Wesley, scruffy dark Wesley he's just so many characters in one.

Cordelia. I was tempted to go for Faith but I think Cordy's been more important overall. I just think of everything after "Birthday" as Pod!Cordy influenced/controlled by Jasmine so I don't hold anything after that point against her.

Fred is the by far the credit character I like least on ALL the ME shows.

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Tuesday, May 11, 2004 4:32 PM

DELIA

Kaykath,

Thanks for your votes here and on the Buffy board. Excellent choices all around!

Delia

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Wednesday, May 12, 2004 10:41 AM

MAUGWAI

Shout out to the Grooselog! (sp?) He is so adorable. I would gladly have taken him off Cordy's hands when she wasn't paying him enough attention. He's my guy vote.

You gotta love Cordy's spunk, even if she did take Groo for granted. My girl vote is for Cordelia.

"Dear diary, today I was pompous and my sister was crazy."

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Wednesday, May 12, 2004 12:23 PM

ELYSIAN

Before this season I would have gone with Wes but everyone else pales in comparison with Spike.

Spike and Buffy. Buffy was on Angel right?!

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Wednesday, May 12, 2004 1:04 PM

GORAMSHINY

*Ah-hem*

Spike

/erk/ and

Anya

/moment/

Erk, just remembered it was an Angel cast review.. hehe.. in that case Anya, through whatever means magical, becomes Fred/Iliyria

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Wednesday, May 12, 2004 1:08 PM

DELIA

Quote:
Originally posted by Elysian:
Before this season I would have gone with Wes but everyone else pales in comparison with Spike.

Spike and Buffy. Buffy was on Angel right?!

If I allowed Willow, I guess I have to allow Buffy. Frankly, I consider both "stunt" crossovers, but since both crossed over more than once, I'll give it to you.

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Wednesday, May 12, 2004 1:13 PM

guy - Wes
girl - Fred/Illyeria

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Thursday, May 13, 2004 5:54 PM

ALIENZOOKEEPER

Put me down for Wes and Lilah. I'm definitely buying season four, when it comes out!

Also, Wes is a better champion than Angel or Spike, just my opinion ;-)

alien zookeeper

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Saturday, May 15, 2004 9:31 PM

CAGEYBEE

this is the single hardest thing i have ever had to do in my entire young life (maybe something will come along in those older years that could top it, but i'm not counting on it)

i loved angel from the first moment i saw him on buffy. i'm a sucker for the bad boy...especially if they turn into brooders.
spike, he's just my kinda guy. which is completey wrong, if you want romantic advice, but fun as hell, if you want to go that route. wes has gone from nerdy narc to uber-stud. gunn is just so human, its impossible not to like him. groo, those eyes, i could just about melt. lindsey is so much fun, even if he is evil (there i go, once again, with the bad boys.) and i liked doyle up until he got all evil (he's one of only two to ever turn a joss whedon hat trick, that's gotta count for something, right?) but throw adam in as hamilton, and i just far too confused to even think straight.

as for the chicas, i'm more tunnel-visioned. plus, definite boys club on angel. so, cordy did have her whole "transdensce" into someone one wonderful and nice, but i'm a traditionalist. (an angel-buffy shipper, if we must label.) so i'm fred all the way here. not just because i don't really like cordelia, but fred was so sweet and so gorgeous and i was crushed when i found out her soul was burnt up. if i ever had a bone to pick with joss, it would be that. how can he do that to someone so special?

anyway, mark me down for
chica- fred
chico-....um, yeah...can i get back to you?

edit-

i almost forgot! i'm a gunhand groupie....my brain hurts...i need to sit down.
edit #2- i did not mean doyle there, i meant the eventually-evil lab assistant to fred. what was his name? he played tracey in "the message" on firefly....ok, figured it out, his name is knox.
me

~Mal- "how drunk was i last night?"
~Jayne- "i don't know. i passed out."

gunhand is, in fact, not a mean old man, just slightly past his prime and slightly morally ambiguous.

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Monday, May 17, 2004 6:44 PM

CAGEYBEE

so, i've sucked it up and decided to vote...but first i intend to subject you all to the horrible reasonings that tore me up for two days. first, i decided not to vote for anyone who i've previously voted for....so no adam (

),no spike (cause i voted for him in the buffy thread) and no gunhand (i intend to vote for him in the poster review), so we are down to angel, wes, gunn, knox, groo, and lindsey. i've decided to toss out knox because he was unforgiveably evil and not that hot. and while i like gunn a lot, he'll always be connected to fred's death for me. groo is an uber hottie, but he wasn't around long enough for me to develop significant feelings. and i know there's a serious wes following out there, so i say this fearing for my safety. wes is cool, but i just never understood his sex appeal. there, i said it, don't kill me...i'm too pretty to die.

so, that leaves us with angel and lindsey. lindsey is my bad boy, i love him, probably to an unhealthy amount. but i gotta go with angel. the boy's just got it. so there, i'm completely exhausted and done.

me

~Mal- "how drunk was i last night?"
~Jayne- "i don't know. i passed out."

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Monday, May 17, 2004 7:28 PM

SHADOWVESSEL

This is easy:

Angel and Faith.

The 5/12 Angel showed us yet again why he's the man and can't wait for 5/19.

Faith belonged on Angel. I was always sad they didn't make her a regular, especially after they brought everybody else and their brother in as regulars. She was a much cooler "Team Angel" than she ever was a "Scooby."

(DDP)

"I'll be in my bunk."

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Monday, May 17, 2004 7:28 PM

SHADOWVESSEL

"I'll be in my bunk."

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Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:51 AM

IDEFIX

so as time is running short I decided to vote, for whomever. I still don't know yet

ok. male is down to Wes or Lorne 8haven't seen Spike on Angel so I won't vote for him here) and seen as Wes seems to be winning and I sometimes just like to do something different than anybody else and I haven't seen dark!Wes yet (still stuck at 3x13) I've just decided to give my vote to Lorne. one sweet green demon. not really all that good looking (green?) and all but a nice fellow. he's fun, he's smart, he's empathic. he'd be a good man/demon to have around. I'd sure give him a chance. is he even compatible with human women? maybe I shouldn't have asked maybe I don't really want to know. he's still green with little red horns. but whatever don't judge the demons by their color.

for girls... still majorly undecided. Fred is sweet but she's also on the verge of getting on my nerves sometimes. at least when Wes and Gunn moon over her and she has only eyes for Angel, but's that's life. Cordy isn't axactly my type, don't know why. to vote for one of the not so regular characters feels somehow wrong. is Faith going to be on more of Angel that I haven't seen yet? she's only been in two or three EPs or so up to now (3x12), right? maybe I should give Drusilla my vote. I've always kinda liked her but not that much. is Angel a bit short on interesting females or am I just way pickier with my girls than my boys? might be the last one. I didn't have to give much thought to the Buffy femal vote because Willow just is it for me without question. but take Willow away and I would have ended up exactly where I am here. no one I really want to vote for all that much. so I give my reluctant vote to Dru, she hasn't any votes yet either.

so finally after talking way too much like always:

male: Lorne
female: Drusilla

Idefix

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Tuesday, May 18, 2004 4:22 AM

DELIA

Idefix,

Yes, Faith will turn up a bit in season 4. And I'm glad you voted for Lorne -- he needed to turn up in the poll somewhere.

Thanks to everyone who voted. Polls close tomorrow.

Delia

___________________________________________
WESLEY : Feng shui.
GUNN: Right. What's that mean again?
WESLEY: That people will believe anything.

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Tuesday, May 18, 2004 8:58 AM

LISSA

ok, in all honesty i should be voting for wes since he's my all-time favorite buffyverse character, but i gotta vote for connor because wes already has a good number of votes and, well, i'm a little obsessed with connor. for a girl, i guess...darla. what the hey.

~lissa, spwhore

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Tuesday, May 18, 2004 9:02 AM

LADYPANDORA

Spike and Illyria

"Oh my god. What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing!?...Oh right, that would be me. Back to work."

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Tuesday, May 18, 2004 9:39 AM

BLUESUNWORSHIPPER

Spike and Fred/Illyria...

...oh, hell...

James Marsters and Amy Acker. Howzat?

- BSW

"I hope you believe as I do, that a life without pain has no meaning. Gentlemen, I wish to give your lives...meaning."

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Tuesday, May 18, 2004 9:41 AM

CIARA

Spike and Fred/Illyria

I must mention Wes, though my vote is not for him. My poor everything-bad-happens-to-him dear.

Just a humble supplicant in service to all things Joss

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