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Originally posted by aDam:
Wow my thread, which doesn't nothing wrong but present a point of view which differs from the popular opinion of the board,...

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Originally posted by aDam:
...has been moved to "troll country". How tolerant. Losers.

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Originally posted by aDam:

I hardly see how a show being unpopular makes it good. I mean Pauly Shore's show was unpopular and guess what? That's right it sucked.

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Originally posted by aDam:

Some shows may succeed because of idiots...

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Originally posted by aDam:
...but most of the time when a show tanks fast and hard it's because it's crap.

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Originally posted by aDam:

And Roman thanks for bringing absolutely nothing to the table. Please eat my crap.

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... and insult us, call our show crap, and tell us to shut up...

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It's here because YOU ARE A TROLL! You posted it for the express purpose of inciting animosity. QED.

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So every show that gets axed is automatically crap? Wow, guess this shows how gullible the average viewer really is.

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Some shows succeed because of idiots? Try nearly every show that's premiered in the last 4 years!

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Yeah, the original Star Trek was sooo horrible, that's why it got axed...

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Oooh, and we can tell that this individual's opinion matters in any way because of his sophisticated manner. "Eat my crap," indeed. Shakespeare couldn't have said it better.

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Well you know what? Your show sucks. Firefly licks cotton balls. Birds of Prey is inexcusably bad. No one watches your shows because they are no good. WB will not pick up Firefly. UPN will not pick up either. These shows are not good and they failed because often the weeding process of canceling new shows that do poorly really works.

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You do realize that you are disagreeing with more people then us, correct? Several critics, most of whom are far more intelligent (and far better writers) than you are thinnk highly of it. This list includes:

Positive Firefly reviews:

Mike Duffy, Detroit Free Press. Archived online at:
http://www.freep.com/entertainment/tvandradio/duf20_20020920.htm .

Ken Tucker, Entertainment Weekly. Archived online at:
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/review/tv/0,6115,355225~3~~,00.html

Robert Bianca, USA Today. Archived online at:
http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/reviews/2002-09-18-firefly_x.h
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Matt Roush, TV Guide. Archive online at:
http://www.tvguide.com/tv/roush/rreview/021104.asp
Terry Morrow, Knoxville News. Archive online at: http://www.knoxnews.com/kns/tv_and_radio/article/0,1406,KNS_357_142700
4,00.html

Steve Murray, Atlanta Journal-Constitution. Archived online at: http://www.accessatlanta.com/ajc/living/tv/0902/20firefly.html

Chris Wyatt, Cinescape Magazine. Archived online at: http://www.cinescape.com/0/editorial.asp?aff_id=0&this_cat=Television&
action=page&type_id=&cat_id=&obj_id=36248

Patrick Lee, Sci-fi.Com. Archived by http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue282/screen3.html

Matthew Gilbert, A&E Boston Globe Staff. Archived by http://ae.boston.com/tv_radio/packages/fall_tv02/20020920_fall_tv_fire
fly.html

David Bianculli, NY Daily News. Archived Online at: http://www.nydailynews.com/12-20-2002/entertainment/ent_radio/story/44
935p-42298c.html .

Mark Davidziak, Cleveland Plain Dealer. Archived Online at:
http://www.zeal.com/exit.jhtml?cid=10124319&wid=100791445&so=&xr=/cate
gory/preview.jhtml%3Fcid%3D10124319.

Chuck Barney, Contra Costa Time (Contra Costa County in California, I think in the Bay area). Archived Online at:
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/bayarea/entertainment/television/4105183.ht
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So that's one thing. For another, despite popular opinion, you aren't stupid. You've been very calculating in throwing this little stink bomb at just the right time to maximize annoyance. Good job! I hate you, as I'm sure most who encounter you do, but I can't fault your intelligence. Incidently, some of the most intelligent, well crafted shows in recent years have lasted one year or less such as Robbery/Homicide, Freaks and Geeks, Robert Altman's Gun, Action, The Chronicle, and Strange Luck.



Nathan
"It looks like a great adventure...That's what it is; that's what it feels like. When I saw the pilot, it was really engaging. It was exciting. It was unusual. It threw me off every now and then. I think people will be grabbed by it." - Ron Glass, on the pilot, during an interview with the Indianapolis Star

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You are crying about it uselessly. I'm doing you guys a favour by telling you to shut up but you're all too stupid to listen. At least I had a bit of class about it too. In the two very short replies I got I was called an idiot twice and a moron once. Of course now it's free game.

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Wow you're so ejicate! You zall should gets a deegree for all them's fancy wordin'. Your vocabulary is terribly innapropriate for the Internet. I'd say it's innapropriate for pretty much anything but mathematical proofs.

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I'm not a troll ass munch. I wrote a letter because I strongly felt this needed to be said to all the crybabies and then felt it would come to better use if I actually did something with it rather than keep it to myself like some loser with their web poetry. Of course now that I've been met with great hostility I'm sure I'll just come off as more of a troll so you can all keep thinking that and bask in your ignorance.

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You're not listening. For someone who says stuff like QED you sure are stupid. Oh that's right you're just a pretentious piece of shit! What I'm saying is a show getting canceled does not make it good. That's like saying that because an innocent man goes to jail that anyone who ends up in prison is innocent. It's terribly flawed logic.

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There have been a hand full of good shows. Angel is pretty good. Joss should stick with what works for him I guess. I a few good shows in the past few years have been Even Stevens, Kim Possible, Roswell, Smallville and the Zeta Project. It's not a huge list but that's 4 excellent and one pretty good show which I'm happy with. Sure television has been mostly bad but it's always been that way. A person should never expect to sit in front of good television for 4 hours a day unless they're watching repeats. This isn't due to the fact that everything good gets canceled but because little that's good is made.

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Again just because every once and a while a good show gets canceled doesn't mean the mounds of sucky shows that get canceled are worth the sweat off my nut sac. I wish idiots would stop thinking about the original Star Trek.

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Sorry I'm not a pretentious asshole who finished sentences with "QED" which is the pretentious equivalent to "0wned!" (note the O spelled with a zero because that's about the level of conversation I'm clocking you at)

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I was kidding of course. I'm not sorry at all. If I ever end a sentence with QED I hope someone kills me so bad that I never come back. You know like they did to Firefly.

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Anyway this thread was tucked away for a while since it's original posting. I guess the test of time has shown how successfull your geek campaign is doing. I guess when I learn how successfull it was that will really shut me up.

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So what channel picked up your ass heap of a show? UPN? They pick up good shows that get canceled. Was your show picked up by UPN?

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You do realize that you are disagreeing with more people then us, correct? Several critics, most of whom are far more intelligent (and far better writers) than you are thinnk highly of it. This list includes:

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Ok, if you dont like the show so much, why must you spend so much time here?

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How is anything we do hurting you? You obviously came here looking to cause trouble. Now you whine because the fans of the show you insulted are angry at you. Tell me, have you ever walked into an Al-Qaeda camp shouting "USA! USA!"? Because it's the same principle.

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And once again, aDam shows just how smart he is with his mastery of the English language. Which, by the way, I'm speaking properly because I actually paid attention in school. Tell me, do you refer to 4th grade as your "senior year?"

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And I don't recall making any such blanket statement as "All shows that get cancelled are good." If anything, you've displayed just such fallacious logic by claiming that just because a show gets cancelled, it must be awful and not worth watching.

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Now let's look at the bottom-feeding crap that's infesting our airwaves

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I'll bet you do, since Star Trek: TOS is a shining example of what a fresh idea and a fan campaign can accomplish. With that out of our minds, we'd be that much closer to turning into brainless network zombies like you. After all, idiocy loves company.

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Indeed? Well, I could explain to you that "QED" actually means "quod erat demonstrandum," or "That which was to be demonstrated," but you'd just respond with "Eat me, poindexter!" So I fail to see the point. Instead, I'll say it in a way you can understand:

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Ha! UPN picks up shows that will make them money, not "good shows that get cancelled," just like every other network. And thanks to the royal screwing Fox gave the show, nobody's going to see it as profitable unless the fans demonstrate their support.... which we're doing.

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Ok, if you dont like the show so much, why must you spend so much time here?

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I don't. How many posts do I have? I don't understand what you're suggesting here. Are you trying to convince me that I actually like the show or what?

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Tell me, have you ever walked into an Al-Qaeda camp shouting "USA! USA!"? Because it's the same principle.

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simply sick of hearing people go on about campaigns to save dead shows.

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So, go find something you are enthusiastic about, and play there--or, if you plan to stay, find a useful (and tactful) way to contribute.

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pathetic to rain on someone else's parade just cuz you can't find your own parade to participate in.

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if you have so little regard for this show, and so little respect for those who watch it and are trying to get it back on the air, why did you even come here in the first place?

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what kind of loser gets so perturbed over a few people's efforts to save a TV show that he sits down and spends time composing a nasty little letter to them, then posts it on their discussion boards, then comes back to argue his points and defend himelf?

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I think an intelligent adult would have something better to do with his time.

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a sad little loser whose greatest sense of accomplishment in life comes from posting childish notes on sci-fi fans' Internet sites.

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Thank you for stating what probably everyone here was thinking! ADAM, life too short to sit around making fun of people who like a show that you didn't like. It's pointless.

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Go post something constructive on a site for a show you LIKE instead of coming here and pissing everyone off.

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You know you're not going to change our opinions of Firefly (or BoP, for the BoP fans) or throw a wet blanket over our efforts to get our shows back on the air, so we just wonder, what the hell are you really doing here?

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You offer no intelligent criticism and show no consideration or respect for people whose opinions or tastes differ from yours.

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Your first post was just nasty, mean-spirited, and ignorant.

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Guess what, it's actually possible that someone who's just as smart as you are (or maybe even smarter) will disagree with you.

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Originally posted by Tylor:
Why are people responding to such an obvious troll?

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Originally posted by aDam:
Wow my thread, which doesn't nothing wrong but present a point of view which differs from the popular opinion of the board, has been moved to "troll country". How tolerant. Losers.

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Originally posted by aDam:
24. Why must you label shows? There are only two kinds of shows in my book. Good shows and bad shows. Humour has no age limit.

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Originally posted by Tylor:
Why are people responding to such an obvious troll?

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Originally posted by lissa:
i gotta say, it's pretty funny that long ago adam told us out efforts were useless, and now we're getting a movie! yay us:)

~lissa, spwhore

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I'm old enough to remember jerks like you, condemning original series Trek fans for loving a show that was canceled after only 3 years. After 10 movies and four spin off series, those detractors have been shown for the short sighted fools that they were. Time will prove you equally wrong.

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Originally posted by aDam:
Universal will not spend 50 million on a Firefly movie.
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