ask ndugu by ndugu

ndugu,

Your post was moved to Troll Country because ... well ... erm ... it was seen as trollish to all except the author.

The whole idea of trying to exclude folks from seeing our BDM and making sport of new fans is NOT the way for our Heros to become big stars and life in the 'verse as we know it to become a successful franchise.

Why would we try to stop folks from seeing our much anticipated BDM? We need those ticket dollars to ensure a 2nd and 3rd and up to 10th film. We need HUGE interest to perhaps get a new TV show.

By having your post out where new people might stumble across it, they could see themselves as unwelcome.

Why would we set ourselves to be seen as 'Ain't It Cool News' style snobs? We didn't create Firefly and we sure as hell don't have the moral authority to ridicule anyone not lucky enough to have caught it on Faux.

You are welcome here and we'd like you to stay; however, we'd prefer if you adopted a less Trollish stance.

You can look at profiles by clicking on the posters name at the top of each post.

"I'm gonna rip you a new puppet hole, bitch!"

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Tuesday, April 5, 2005 6:14 AM

STARRBABY

May I give you some advice on how to be taken seriously?
I'm not trying to be mouthy, I'm just giving a suggestion.
Next time, type what you want to say into a word processor. Go over it with spell and grammer check. This will help your point come across much more clearly.
Also, ranting and raving in that style is very trollish. State your idea in a clear manner, and be respectful.
Leet speak - or whatever it is (e.g. OMG, WTF) hinders your ability to sound like someone we should take seriously.
Once again, I'm not trying to anger you or be mean. I'm trying to give you a few tools to begin a civil conversation about this topic.
Hope this helps.

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Tuesday, April 5, 2005 6:24 AM

SGTGUMP

Damn, ndugu. I really shouldn't reply to this.

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Tuesday, April 5, 2005 7:10 AM

KELLAINA

Honestly, the title "ask ndugu" had me expecting some sort of troll advice column. Now that would be entertaining.

If you don't want to be taken as a troll, use both upper and lower case letters. I know you were told not to post in all caps, but they are useful if used properly. As is grammar. And spelling. And the proper use of quotations for that matter.

Quote:
I AM SEROIUS PEOPLE you cant just remove my stuff just because you dont like what i say. if you do that what the hell is the point of a forum

It's not about liking what you say, it's about how you say it. And actually, your stuff wasn't removed - it was moved.

(I know responding is only encouraging him/her, but this is just too easy, and I'm bored.)

If nothing we do matters, then all that matters is what we do. -"Angel"

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Tuesday, April 5, 2005 7:33 AM

you know what my favourite person on the internet is?

the person who points out spelling mistakes then acts like they burned you

as you might of guessed kellaina you are now my favourite member here, you can ask me advice if you want but if its about your weight be prepared for some harsh answers.

note i wasn't calling you fat, so don't get offended.

ps your wrong about the whole moved removed thing, if it was moved somewhere else it would of had to have been removed from the place it originaly was wouldn't it.

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Tuesday, April 5, 2005 7:40 AM

ndugu,

The response to kelliana was trollish and uncalled for. You asked. She answered.

Obviously, you aren't looking for help - you're only looking for attention.

You've answered your own question about why your stuff was moved.

Personally, I find it difficult to read many posts across many boards because of the horrendous spelling, lack of sentence structure and other "illiterate little kid" tip offs.

What she said. Type into a word processor. Drop the net speak. Lose the troll.

"I'm gonna rip you a new puppet hole, bitch!"

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Tuesday, April 5, 2005 7:51 AM

kellaina i apologise for my trollish post you arn't really my favourite poster and you can't ask me any questions.

also your right about the word processor even though it wasn't you who said it.

i will try and lose my trolling ways but that will be hard since i don't have microsoft word. but perhaps knibbler can go through my posts and edit them.

ps your correct about my last thread not being removed, it is still in general discussion i just can't seem to find it.

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Tuesday, April 5, 2005 7:53 AM

Professional rates apply. $25 per hour or $5 per page. Your choice. Click on PayPal and we'll talk particulars.

Quote:
Originally posted by ndugu:
...perhaps knibbler can go through my posts and edit them.

"I'm gonna rip you a new puppet hole, bitch!"

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Tuesday, April 5, 2005 7:57 AM

RAT

Quote:
Originally posted by ndugu:
You're wrong about the whole moved removed thing, if it was moved somewhere else it would of had to have been removed from the place it originaly was wouldn't it.

If it was removed then you wouldn't be able to find it at all! Would you now?
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=15&t=9347#127575

-Ratboy

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Tuesday, April 5, 2005 7:57 AM

im sorry i have no money i live in south africa and my mother spends all her money she makes from being a maid on aids drugs

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Tuesday, April 5, 2005 8:25 AM

IMEARLY

Hey, you forgot me. Where is that fax!!

Death of a Troll

Magic scissors I wish
Or rusted hook from fish
That one can chop or saw
Lob a brainless head or maw

I would like to swing
A giant ax to fling
Heads landing in bowls
of Trolls, yes Trolls

An evil wish to behold
Return their hatred tenfold
Burn their ships, sink their boats
Let us rally now Browncoats

Send them home, where Reavers roam

Go sign my Guest Book,
http://www.geocities.com/thisbrownhouse
Then download Serenity,
http://homepage.mac.com/rocketplane/FileSharing8.html

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Tuesday, April 5, 2005 9:00 AM

ImEarly, With apologies to Wash and Jayne ...

Would be that you'd go all poetical about a pecker.

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Tuesday, April 5, 2005 9:12 AM

IMEARLY

Quote:
Would be that you'd go all poetical about a pecker.

To my delight he
briskly begins tapping a
melody on the
chimney. An industrious,
shy pecker of wood is he!

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Tuesday, April 5, 2005 9:35 AM

THATWEIRDGIRL

Quote:
Originally posted by Knibblet:
ImEarly, With apologies to Wash and Jayne ...

Would be that you'd go all poetical about a pecker.

I’m not weighing in on the troll issue...just wanted Knibblet to know THAT was hi-larious. ImEarly is a poetical kind of guy.

www.thatweirdgirl.com
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Can we not revel in our cyber-love?

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Tuesday, April 5, 2005 9:41 AM

ZEEK

Quote:
Originally posted by ndugu:
i don't have microsoft word.

ah this isn't a problem. http://www.openoffice.org/

Enjoy.

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Tuesday, April 5, 2005 10:02 AM

SLAYER730

Ok, even IF anything you said it true, NDUGU, don't you think you have more to worry about (what with your mother having AIDS) than who are the most worthy Firefly fans? I found this whole thread to be really amusing on all accounts, so thanks for brightening up an otherwise drab day at work, NDUGU and all Browncoats involved.

Awaiting your scathing yet provocative response,

Slayer730

(That's S-l-a-y-e-r-7-3-0)

***Never judge a book by its movie***

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Tuesday, April 5, 2005 10:08 AM

SERGEANTX

Personally, I like Ndugu and think we should all be inspired by his fine example. Punctuation and spelling aren't luxuries people in his country can afford.

Maybe we could take up a collection to have Ndugu flown to a Serenity premiere here in the states. Who'll be the first to cough up a few bucks for poor little Ndugu?

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Tuesday, April 5, 2005 10:25 AM

Aww poor ndugu acted like a troll and was therefore moved to Troll Country. I'm shocked, shaken, and angry and the injustice done! Come on Haken, what WERE you thinking!

Please, do note the sarcasm.

I'm glad others pointed out the annoying and ever present grammar and spelling mistakes of ndugu so that I didn't have to. I'm an English teacher, and I reckon I get tired of pointing those sort of mistakes out to my students, much less people on the Internet.

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Tuesday, April 5, 2005 10:35 AM

RAT

Quote:
Originally posted by Caite:
Come on Haken, what WERE you thinking!

Actually I think it was Shiny!

-Ratboy

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Tuesday, April 5, 2005 10:42 AM

My work here is done.

As you crack me up on a daily basis, I'm happy to return the favor.

Quote:
Originally posted by thatweirdgirl:
...just wanted Knibblet to know THAT was hi-larious.

"I'm gonna rip you a new puppet hole, bitch!"

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Tuesday, April 5, 2005 10:47 AM

EMBERS

looks like another thread headed to Troll Country

ndugu, in case you don't get it...
you ARE a troll
(it is time you knew)

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Tuesday, April 5, 2005 11:07 AM

Oh I think it was shiny too! I was being sarcastic Rat

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Tuesday, April 5, 2005 11:12 AM

SLAYER730

A fellow English teacher, hmmm Caite? Let the grammar fest begin!

***Never judge a book by its movie***

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Tuesday, April 5, 2005 11:21 AM

STARRBABY

Quote:
Originally posted by slayer730:
Let the grammar fest begin!

Oooh! Me too!
I'm not a Teacher, but I have my BA in English. My husband calls me a grammer natzi.
We should make a club.

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Tuesday, April 5, 2005 11:26 AM

Ohhhh, I'll refrain from using the cliche about not wanting to be a part of a club that would blah blah blah. Quite frankly, any club that would want me has to be ultra shiny!

New Club Rules:
Rule #1: If you use "omg" "wtf" "U2" or "ru" when writing online, you cannot join the club. So sorry

Feel free to add rules guys hahah.

Truly, no offense intended

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Tuesday, April 5, 2005 11:29 AM

RAT

Quote:
Originally posted by Caite:
I'm an English teacher, and I reckon I get tired of pointing those sort of mistakes out to my students, much less people on the Internet.

Quote:
Originally posted by slayer730:
A fellow English teacher, hmmm Caite? Let the grammar fest begin!

Quote:
Originally posted by Starrbaby:
My husband calls me a grammer natzi.
We should make a club.

*Sneaks out back door.*

-Ratboy

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Tuesday, April 5, 2005 1:27 PM

ndugu:

Lucky for you, tonight's my 16th wedding anniversary. I've got better things to do, and unlike you, they don't gravitate around 'Rosie' or her five sisters (although I suspect two are more than enough for you).

So, I will properly humiliate you tomorrow, unless this thread likewise gets relegated to the Troll Country rubbish heap it so richly deserves.

But, I'll leave you with a thought to ponder, until I return: You're a moron.

Sincerely,

zoid
_________________________________________________

"Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me." The Ballad of Serenity

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Tuesday, April 5, 2005 1:36 PM

CHRISISALL

Don't mince words, Zoid, tell him what you really think.

Chrisisall

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Tuesday, April 5, 2005 1:46 PM

P1NKISPUNK

Strange...I assumed it was a girl

*ponders* are there girls trolls?

Is that a sexist thing to ask?

Uh-oh...

"This mummy hand has ceased to exist! It is an ex-mummy hand!"

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Tuesday, April 5, 2005 2:35 PM

MONTANAGIRL

Quote:
Originally posted by Starrbaby:
Quote:
Originally posted by slayer730:
Let the grammar fest begin!

Oooh! Me too!
I'm not a Teacher, but I have my BA in English. My husband calls me a grammer natzi.
We should make a club.

Thank goodness I'm not the only one driven nuts by stuff like that. My mom is an English teacher and I have an English minor (albeit in Lit). Can I join too?

Packer fans welcome.
All others tolerated.

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Tuesday, April 5, 2005 3:30 PM

IMEARLY

Quote:
tonight's my 16th wedding anniversary.

Congratulations, the 1st of the month was my wife and I's fifth.

No really.

Go sign my Guest Book,
http://www.geocities.com/thisbrownhouse
Then download Serenity,
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Tuesday, April 5, 2005 4:25 PM

MALICIOUS

Quote:
Originally posted by zoid:
You're a moron.

I knew I loved you for a reason!

Happy 'versary.

Mal-licious

I think I will add cursing and the hurling about of things to my repertoire.

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Tuesday, April 5, 2005 5:18 PM

'Lishus:

I finished responding to your email, and received notification you had just found my response to ndugu. Like I said, I've got to get to bed soon (wink-wink, nudge-nudge), so I don't have time to fully excoriate the little troll tonight. But I'll get back to him tomorrow, unless this thread gets sh*t-canned. I don't chase 'em into Troll Country...

But, here's a prediction: At some point, ndugu's AIDs-positive mommy will post, saying she didn't know little ndugu was on the Internet (since they don't have a phone or ISP) and was surprised to find that the people on FFFn were so rude to him. She will then promise never to let him back onto this horrific website, where people think it's fun to abuse innocent children who can't even afford grammar.

Sound familiar? It should. Like I said, I'll deal with this idiot more fully tomorrow, as I have done at least twice before. (He'll take offense at that too, just as he did the last time.) It's not even fun anymore. Whacking trolls is just a chore, like plunging a clogged toilet, except more distasteful...

And p1nkispunk:
No, there is no such thing as a female troll. Females are entirely too soulful for such low behavior. Nope, it takes a prepubescent male, to make a troll of this kind. Usually, the 'prepubescent' troll is less than 25 years of age, and the urges to insult strangers and disguise his identity go away entirely the first time he has sex with someone other than himself or an immediate family member.

So, let's hope ndugu stops masturbating and having unprotected sex with his mother soon. She's AIDs positive, you know.

Safely,

zoid

P.S.
Okay, so I couldn't resist bloodying him a little tonight... Gosh, I hope he fights back. It's a lot more fun when they keep getting back up and sticking their chin out.
_________________________________________________

"Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me." The Ballad of Serenity

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Tuesday, April 5, 2005 7:13 PM

To all those who expressed an interest in grammar, I started a shiny new thread for us over here http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=11&t=9363

Please, come on over!!!

Oh, P.S. ndugu, I might have hijacked your thread. Malicious, I hope you're proud of me

I learned everything I knew from you, your royal highness!!

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Tuesday, April 5, 2005 7:26 PM

KELLAINA

Wow, I go to class and work and the troll thread heats up!

ndugu:

Quote:
you know what my favourite person on the internet is?

the person who points out spelling mistakes then acts like they burned you

Huh? Does the second sentence make sense to anyone else?

And even if it does, I don't care if speling or grammar aren't your strengths. But there is a difference between honest mistakes and being too lazy to structure sentences.

Quote:
as you might of guessed kellaina you are now my favourite member here, you can ask me advice if you want but if its about your weight be prepared for some harsh answers.

note i wasn't calling you fat, so don't get offended.

Weight? Where the hell did that come from? I was thinking more along the lines of a Dear Abby type thing, but from a troll's perspective (like how to deal with the trolls under the next bridge who keep you up at night).

Of course I'm not offended by you calling me fat! You can't see me!!!!

Quote:
ps your wrong about the whole moved removed thing, if it was moved somewhere else it would of had to have been removed from the place it originaly was wouldn't it.

You have a point, surprising as that is (and grammar notwithstanding).

Quote:
kellaina i apologise for my trollish post you arn't really my favourite poster and you can't ask me any questions.

Darn. I'm crushed.

Knibblet:

Quote:
Personally, I find it difficult to read many posts across many boards because of the horrendous spelling, lack of sentence structure and other "illiterate little kid" tip offs.

What Knibblet said. (And thanks for the defence, by the way

)

ImEarly:
'Death of a Troll' cracked me up! 'Mine is an evil laugh...'

Zoid:
Happy anniversary!

If nothing we do matters, then all that matters is what we do. -"Angel"

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Tuesday, April 5, 2005 7:26 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Zeek:
Quote:
Originally posted by ndugu:
i don't have microsoft word.

ah this isn't a problem. http://www.openoffice.org/

Enjoy.

why thank you sir

hello kellaina because you made a long post about my spelling mistakes youre my favourite poster again.

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Tuesday, April 5, 2005 7:35 PM

TLACOOK

Quote:
Originally posted by zoid:

But, here's a prediction: At some point, ndugu's AIDs-positive mommy will post, saying she didn't know little ndugu was on the Internet (since they don't have a phone or ISP) and was surprised to find that the people on FFFn were so rude to him. She will then promise never to let him back onto this horrific website, where people think it's fun to abuse innocent children who can't even afford grammar.

Sound familiar?

I am so glad that this scenario happens here too and not just over on the OB. Highly amusing thread.

Did you know that we have created Troll Hockey over on the OB? It can be very entertaining but, alas, the OB is so hard to find that we get very few trolls these days.

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Tuesday, April 5, 2005 7:45 PM

can someone tell me what zoids talking about i really diddn't understand what he was trying to say and pls don't talk about my family i diddn't say anything about yours.

]Originally posted by Kellaina:
Wow, I go to class and work and the troll thread heats up!

ndugu:
Quote:
you know what my favourite person on the internet is?

the person who points out spelling mistakes then acts like they burned you

Huh? Does the second sentence make sense to anyone else?

in case you have no friends and arn't with the latest words burned means a insult

And even if it does, I don't care if speling or grammar aren't your strengths. But there is a difference between honest mistakes and being too lazy to structure sentences.

Quote:
as you might of guessed kellaina you are now my favourite member here, you can ask me advice if you want but if its about your weight be prepared for some harsh answers.

note i wasn't calling you fat, so don't get offended.

im not to lazy i just dont know

Weight? Where the hell did that come from? I was thinking more along the lines of a Dear Abby type thing, but from a troll's perspective (like how to deal with the trolls under the next bridge who keep you up at night).

sorry all my realationship advice always ends in aids

Of course I'm not offended by you calling me fat! You can't see me!!!!

yeah i cant but you probably are (no offense)

Quote:
ps your wrong about the whole moved removed thing, if it was moved somewhere else it would of had to have been removed from the place it originaly was wouldn't it.

You have a point, surprising as that is (and grammar notwithstanding).

thank you

Quote:
kellaina i apologise for my trollish post you arn't really my favourite poster and you can't ask me any questions.

Darn. I'm crushed.

don't be your my favourite poster again

Knibblet:
Quote:
Personally, I find it difficult to read many posts across many boards because of the horrendous spelling, lack of sentence structure and other "illiterate little kid" tip offs.

What Knibblet said. (And thanks for the defence, by the way )

you seemed to understand my post pretty well

ImEarly:
'Death of a Troll' cracked me up! 'Mine is an evil laugh...'

i diddnt get it

Zoid:
Happy anniversary!

If nothing we do matters, then all that matters is what we do. -"Angel"

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Wednesday, April 6, 2005 4:07 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

Zoid wrote:
Quote:
But, here's a prediction: At some point, ndugu's AIDs-positive mommy will post, saying she didn't know little ndugu was on the Internet (since they don't have a phone or ISP) and was surprised to find that the people on FFFn were so rude to him. She will then promise never to let him back onto this horrific website, where people think it's fun to abuse innocent children who can't even afford grammar.

Sound familiar? It should. Like I said, I'll deal with this idiot more fully tomorrow, as I have done at least twice before. (He'll take offense at that too, just as he did the last time.) It's not even fun anymore. Whacking trolls is just a chore, like plunging a clogged toilet, except more distasteful...

Reading over this thread, and the original rightfully dispatched to Troll Country did in fact remind me of our last Troll experience.

Seems like Fireflyfan23 & his "mom" JulieStevens are back. Same bad grammar. Same spelling mistakes.

For those that missed his/her first appearance, find it (also sent to Troll Country) here:

http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=15&t=8881

__________________________________________

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Wednesday, April 6, 2005 4:34 AM

EMBERS

Quote:
Originally posted by zoid:
Sound familiar? It should.

ah, Zoid, you're thinking this is the return of Fireflyfan23 AKA James and his Mother, Juliestevens (with the Father who Mom said was alive but James said was dead...)
who became famous in March:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=15&t=8881

I think it sounds like him too...
and of course Spartan42 could probably confirm that.

P1nkispunk: if we are correct, and NDUGU is our old friend James then we already know that this troll is a young guy still living at home, because Fireflyfan23 (his earlier alias) self discribed in his own profile as:

Quote:
One day i will break out of this ice fortress known as "my parents basement" and when i do i will walk right up to the counter of a mcdonalds restraunt order 7 drinks. Then throw each of them at the girls face one after the other.

edited to add:
oops, sorry Browncoat...you posted while I was still taking a long time writing my post, hense the repetition
(great minds think alike)

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Wednesday, April 6, 2005 4:39 AM

BrownCoat1, et ma famille:

Thank you all for your kind regards on my anniversary. It was wonderful evening, thanks entirely to the company of the one in whose presence (and arms) I spent it. My wife has the loveliest spirit of anyone I've ever met.

Speaking of spirits: I am currently finalizing an appropriate response to our little 'ndugu'. My personal style is more 'crushing blitzkrieg' (a la, the initial 'combatant' phase of the latest Iraq War), rather than 'humane police action' (as in the subsequent activities in that country). And I ain't afraid to go 'nukular' in the opening, middle and final phases, either; which is why I'll never run for President.

Systemic cancers require a careful course of chemotherapy. The little ones just need to be burned off and biopsied. I think ndugu's more of a malformed mole, than anything worthy of a contemplative approach.

So, I'm firing up the chemical laser, and I'll get back to y'all in a bit...

Surgically,

zoid

P.S.
It likewise doesn't hurt to give him time to supply more rope for himself, or to tuck his tail and run, if he has any sense at all. Next time he posts, he's gonna draw back a bloody stump, I promise.
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"Burn the ndugu and boil the troll, you can't take the sky from me." The Ballad of Serenity (sort of)

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Wednesday, April 6, 2005 5:01 AM

BLACKOUTNIGHTS

So ... exactly how do you pronounce ndugu?

"I don't know why he saved my life. Maybe in those last moments he loved life more than he ever had before. Not just his life, anybody's life. My life. All he'd wanted were the same answers the rest of us want. Where did I come from? Where am I going? How long have I got? All I could do was sit there and watch him die."—Deckard reflecting on Nexus 6 Replicant Roy saving him.

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Wednesday, April 6, 2005 5:18 AM

B.o.N:

You can't possibly be asking 'ndugu' how to pronounce it. He caint evn spel his flames properly.

But, assuming he were actually African, rather than a Chicagoan surburbanite with a mental disorder, it would be pronounced 'un-DOO-Goo', with the 'un' pronounced with only a hint of the short 'u' sound; a glottal stop.

Respectfully,

zoid

P.S.
The laser's charged, applying topical anesthetic now...

P.P.S.
Very apt quote by the way; but I'm going to retire the little replicant in any case, philosophical considerations notwithstanding. Using your implied analogy, I see him as more of a Leon than a Roy Batty model. "Replicants are like any other machine - they're either a benefit or a hazard. If they're a benefit, it's not my problem." -Deckard'zoid
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Wednesday, April 6, 2005 5:22 AM

LETOV

Quote:
Originally posted by p1nkispunk:
*ponders* are there girls trolls?

Is that a sexist thing to ask?

Why p1nk, a female Troll's a Trollip.

(Am I the only one who enjoys reading Robert Asprin's 'Myth' series?)

- Leto_V

"Well, my days of not taking you
seriously are certainly coming to
a middle." - Mal

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Wednesday, April 6, 2005 5:58 AM

SGTGUMP

This is pretty much the worst thread ever made.

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Wednesday, April 6, 2005 5:58 AM

Beat me to it. LetoV!

A female troll is a trollop. So says the "Myth" series. LOVE those books.

"I'm gonna rip you a new puppet hole, bitch!"

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Wednesday, April 6, 2005 6:05 AM