you people don't listen by sanmi77

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you people don't listen

POSTED BY: SANMI77
UPDATED: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 12:00
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Tuesday, April 12, 2005 3:26 PM

ok then I have been reading your posts and trying to explain to you people that I'm sorry and that I will stop but its more important for you to criticize me than to listen.Fine then find someone else to criticize I'm not writing anymore,
you guys take the fun out of it so I'm not writing anymore.

incase of the rapture the car is yours

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Tuesday, April 12, 2005 3:33 PM

SOUTHERNSLAYER

Okay.... I dont know about anyone else but im confused.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

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Tuesday, April 12, 2005 3:35 PM

MALICIOUS

We all are. Just go with it.

Mal-licious

I think I will add cursing and the hurling about of things to my repertoire.

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Tuesday, April 12, 2005 3:38 PM

SANMI77

its about "mabe I should leave" I have posted that I was sorry and just drop it but they keep posting that I'm a troll even when I said I would stop.

in case of the rapture the car is yours

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Tuesday, April 12, 2005 3:54 PM

THEGREYJEDI

But you are a troll and "mabe" you should leave. Whatever "mabe" means. I imagine it's something close to "maybe," a single word formed from "may" and "be" meaning "perhaps/possibly existing/being." You must forgive them their ignorance, Sanmi77, for they can't understand retarded writing and grammar. I deal with the common public, so I see a wide range of stupid in at least three different accents and languages. Also, please look into using commas. Punctuation is important in any language, as it separates complete and partial ideas and concepts.

Either way, you're a dumbass. Get the hell out.

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Tuesday, April 12, 2005 4:22 PM

MOHRSTOUTBEARD

We won't have Dick Nixon to kick around anymore.

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"You've just gotta go ahead and change the captain of your brainship, because he's drunk at the wheel."

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Tuesday, April 12, 2005 4:26 PM

MALICIOUS

Quote:
Originally posted by sanmi77:
its about "mabe I should leave" I have posted that I was sorry and just drop it but they keep posting that I'm a troll even when I said I would stop.

But you HAVEN'T stopped!!! Get it? YOU KEEP NOT STOPPING!! Really stop and "mabe" we will too.

Mal-licious

I think I will add cursing and the hurling about of things to my repertoire.

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Tuesday, April 12, 2005 4:32 PM

IMEARLY

Quote:
but they keep posting that I'm a troll

Wasn't just someone KaKa, it was me.

hole

So if you're leaving... Step off.

Go sign my Guest Book,
http://www.geocities.com/thisbrownhouse
Then download Serenity,
http://homepage.mac.com/rocketplane/FileSharing8.html

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Tuesday, April 12, 2005 4:34 PM

ZOID

SouthernSlayer wrote:

Quote:
Okay.... I dont know about anyone else but im confused.

Which caused Mmmm-a-licious to reply:

Quote:
We all are. Just go with it.

Well, I'm not confused. At least, I don't think so. Let me get back to you on that...

sanmi77:
Let me make an analogy, at this point. I like football. I like it a lot. When I was a (much) younger man, I wanted to play in the NFL. Unfortunately, I didn't have the skills to play at that level. I wanted to be a pro football player with every fiber of my being; but I couldn't perform up to the standards of that organization. I was out of my league. The end.

I'm sure you're a lovely person. Have a nice life...

Suggestively,

zoid

P.S.
I get to be the Cowboys.
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"Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me." The Ballad of Serenity

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Tuesday, April 12, 2005 4:37 PM

THEGREYJEDI

Quote:
Originally posted by zoid:
P.S.
I get to be the Cowboys.

Fine. I'll be, um, anyone else. Cause the Cowboys suck.

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Tuesday, April 12, 2005 4:43 PM

CAITE

Okay, Sanmi, I went back through your other thread, and I only found one or two posts that weren't being all together nice to you. Most of them were saying you should stick it out and learn from your mistakes. People even vouched for you. The fact that you flew off the handle and start THIS one smacks of "woe is me syndrome." All fans are welcomed here, and the only thing that is required is a semi-decent attitude and a love of Firefly.

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Tuesday, April 12, 2005 4:59 PM

ZOID

TheGreyJedi wrote:

Quote:
Fine. I'll be, um, anyone else. Cause the Cowboys suck.

Troll...

v/r,
-zed

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Tuesday, April 12, 2005 4:59 PM

EMBERS

Quote:
Originally posted by Caite:
THIS one smacks of "woe is me syndrome."

only thing that is required is a semi-decent attitude and a love of Firefly.

I've avoided posting re: sanmi77
but I'm kind of put-off by this business of starting thread after thread about sanmi77

I'm more sympathetic to fans who actually post to existing threads about the show, or (if they have questions about the show) start threads about 'Firefly'
we've got about five sanmi77 centric threads going and that is ridiculous...

(it would make sense if they were about Mal*licious)

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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 12:30 AM

MALICIOUS

Quote:
Originally posted by embers:
(it would make sense if they were about Mal*licious)

Duh!

Mal-licious

I think I will add cursing and the hurling about of things to my repertoire.

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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 12:35 AM

MALICIOUS

Quote:
Originally posted by zoid:
I get to be the Cowboys.

I will NEVER forgive jerry jones and jimmy johnson for what they did to the LEGEND Tom Landry. For that reason alone, they will burn in hell.

I was a HUGE fan of them in the Staubach era. I even had a bit of a correspondence with Tex Schramm (he wanted me). When the cowboys won, I rejoiced. When they lost, I died a thousand deaths. But you don't treat Tom Landry shabbily and get away without the enduring wrath of Mal-Licious. May He rest in peas.

Mal-licious

I think I will add cursing and the hurling about of things to my repertoire.

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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:33 AM

SERGEANTX

Don't leave, sanmi77. Just make stupid ass posts about how you're going to leave! Then you'll get all the attention you crave!

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 2:01 AM

FREMDFIRMA

Your options are threefold, Kiddo.

#1 Shaddap and leave.

#2 Shaddap and lurk for a while, 'mabe' learn something.

#3 Get absolutely flamed and humiliated beyond your scariest nightmares when we finally lose patience with your woe-is-me whiny ass.

Pretty simple, really.

-F

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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 2:54 AM

PHOEBE

Suggestion: Everyone ignore Sanmi. Solves problems on all ends, no? No more irritating woe is me threads. No more bitching about trolls. No more arguments. No more upset people. In fact, everyone would be happy because nothing would be mentioned again, and the front page wouldn't be cluttered with these highly irritating threads by an inexperienced user. And newcomers wouldn't be put off by a thread full of browncoats being as mean as possible.

Because remember folks, we're really nice people. yes?

Let's not toss away that beautiful browncoat spirit over a debate over whether or not somebody is a troll.

On the flip side, I don't know you Sanmi, so I'm not going to sit here and be a bitch to you personally. Just thought I'd throw in my two cents about an ever escalating situation!

ETA. Or, hey, maybe that's just me being an idealist who just wants everyone to be friends. In which case ignore me and my wishful morals

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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 4:01 AM

STEVETHEPIRATE

Hey, let's give Sanmi some credit. This intricate weave of "poor me, pity me, mabe I'll leave" threads has spawned a little side conversation about my 'Boys.

Clarification: Dallas Cowboys. Don't be nasty. My other boys don't play football.

I'll always be a Cowboy fan. Landry got shafted, true enough, but that couldn't stray me from cheering for Troy, Emmitt and the Playmaker. Mooooooose.

All hail Sanmi77! Your self-indulgent pity party has afforded me the opportunity to profess my adoration for America's Team on a message board that has absolutely nothing to do with the NFL. Cheers, buddy!

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How 'bout dem Cowboys!

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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 4:03 AM

STEVETHEPIRATE

On second thought, get to steppin', Sanmi. I just realized you referred to us as "you people." We are an oppressed lot here, and that subject line ("you people don't listen") has a tone I don't appreciate.

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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 4:54 AM

SANMI77

let he who has not sinned cast the first stone.

I keep trying to leave but every time I post something "you people" wont let it go time after time a new post but I hate to leave I love to read fanfics and news about serenity but now every time I come here I see my old posts that I had posted yesterday and they keep saying how I'm such a ass hole and then I say Im sorry but It seems to me you find joy in others mistakes and rather punish them than forgive them but I say let he who has not sinned cast the first stone and If you are which I bet you will say that you are perfect then I will leave but if you are not then just leave this hole thing in the past.

in case of the rapture the car is yours

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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 5:00 AM

STILLSHINY

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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 5:12 AM

ZOOT

Quote:
Originally posted by sanmi77:
let he who has not sinned cast the first stone.

I keep trying to leave but every time I post something "you people" wont let it go time after time a new post but I hate to leave I love to read fanfics and news about serenity but now every time I come here I see my old posts that I had posted yesterday and they keep saying how I'm such a ass hole and then I say Im sorry but It seems to me you find joy in others mistakes and rather punish them than forgive them but I say let he who has not sinned cast the first stone and If you are which I bet you will say that you are perfect then I will leave but if you are not then just leave this hole thing in the past.

in case of the rapture the car is yours

(a) we are pretty damn near perfection (or I may just be speaking for myself).

(b) how's about a bit of lurking and a little less posting ... lurkers have fun too ...

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Okay, I'm lost, I'm angry, and I'm
armed.

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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 5:13 AM

ZOID

'Lish The Goddess (of Football, too, it turns out) wrote:

Quote:
I will NEVER forgive jerry jones and jimmy johnson for what they did to the LEGEND Tom Landry. For that reason alone, they will burn in hell.

You're not wrong for feeling that way. I've been a Cowboys fan since the age of six (1964). Being a male child from Texas in that era, it was kind of a slam dunk. My earliest memory of fandom was watching a game between the Cowboys and the Los Angeles Rams (remember when LA had a team?). My father was a Rams fan since WWII, my grandfather a Cowboys fan. I was really only interested in the Cowboys logo of a chaps-, spurs- and hat-wearing rider astride a pony in full gallop. That's propaganda/marketing! (NB: Conversely, I would gladly kneecap their current mascot 'Rowdy' and watch him bleed out, even though his costume is based on the logo of my memories.)

When Jones took over the team and promptly fired Landry, I was as outraged as any Cowboys or NFL fan could be about the way it was done. It was disrespectful.

Having said that, the Cowboys fans knew Landry was past his prime as a coach by at least 3 years. He was definitely showing signs of senility (a term I don't use lightly), while showing no signs of retiring gracefully. He was tarnishing his own legend. (NB: Think Joe Paterno, or any number of players who hang on after they're no longer competitive.) So firing Landry was something that had to happen and there may have been no way of doing that gracefully.

But I will be a Cowboys fan 'til the day I die, no matter who the owner, coach or players are. I enjoy the winning years, especially since they are seasoned by the losing years (hopefully we'll put away the salt shaker for a bit this year). To quote sanmi77, "mabe" it's just 'parity' at work, but Cowboys fans enjoyed a lot of 'sodium-free' years under Tom Landry, much spicier campaigns since; that's his legacy, not the multiple losing seasons and the team loaded with sub-par talent when he left.

Being a Cowboys fan is like being an American: We take a lot of sh*t for it, everyone despises us at some level (if not with open hostility), and we fans could not be prouder of our tradition, even if it's got some holes and stains. I know Shramm didn't have that metaphor in mind when he coined "America's Team", but it fits.

Go ahead and hate me, y'all. I'm still,

Respectfully Yours,

zoid

P.S.
Thanks, 'Lish, for 'opening a lane' and allowing me to get that off my chest. A girl who knows her football: Could you possibly get more attractive? I don't think so.

P.P.S.
Everybody else: Love your team, even if they suck and/or have Randy Moss on the squad. Jumping to the hot or popular team every year shows lack of character. (NB: Unless your team is the Arizona Cardinals, in which case, do whatever it takes to make it through yet another torturous season. You have my sympathies.)
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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 5:24 AM

CHRISISALL

Alas, STEVEthePIRATE is right. The phrase "you people" does keep getting used by Nu- I mean Sanmi77. It is he who keeps posting non- Firefly threads here. He obviously doesn't want to be part of this group. Zoid, Static and others were very nice to him in this new incarnation. Heck, even I tried to be nice on my last post to him.

Sanmi77, I think it's time to go. Come back later as someone else when you want to join, not badger, a group of fans.

There, I didn't even make a dictionary joke.

See ya Chrisisall

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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 5:26 AM

BEATLE

Quote:
Originally posted by zoid:
(NB: Unless your team is the Arizona Cardinals, in which case, do whatever it takes to make it through yet another torturous seaason. You have my sympathies.)

Oh sure, rub it in.
At least we're getting a new stadium. Sun Devil stadium is a terrible place to watch a game. Outdoors. In the Summer.

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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 6:19 AM

ZOID

sanmi77:

Hey, babe. Looks like you've been using the dictionary, thesaurus and possibly the translator links I posted for you on a different thread. Good on ya'!

I only caught one little misspell/misuse in your post: It should be "leave this whole thing in the past" as opposed to "leave this hole thing in the past", which is embarassingly an entirely different subject...

Still, you are showing some improvement in mechanics. Now, we just need to work on your etiquette and attitude.

As stated above, it's neither proper nor polite to start a thread about yourself or any other FFFn poster. You should never seek pity because other posters disagree with you or ignore you. It happens to everyone (some more than others): Do like we do and get over it.

Try to add something to a conversation (spelled as correctly as possible, not because we are picky, but so we can understand you). Do not make every conversation about yourself. The rule is: "One Mal-Licious per site", and we've already got a perfectly good one, thanks anyway.

It is proper to quietly take your well-earned 'medicine' when people ignore or insult you for trying to start/hijack a thread for pity. Alternatively, you can choose to ignore/insult yourself, and post another response, without the pity-pleading, and get the thread back on topic. This works very effectively. Usually, people who ignored your attempt at sympathy-gathering, will respond to your next on-topic post quite readily, because all the personal info you've been gushing is just too damned icky to bear.

So, this is the lesson for today: If you truly want to be a member of this community, not just a lurker reading fanfics, remember it's not all about you (it's all about Mal-Licious *who said that?*). Post things about Firefly and Serenity, or even about other shows/movies/books, but they must relate to Firefly in some way. This is not a website about SNL, and I can see no relationship between Firefly and Saturday Night Live. Don't say things to other people without considering how it would make you feel, if they had said those things to you.

To recap:

1. There should never be a thread about you, unless your name is Mal-Licious. (*alright, who said that!? this is getting scary*)

2. Stay on topic, or at least try to tie your off-topic post into Firefly, in some way.

3. When it comes to the tone of your posts, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." A great Man said that, and I believe it. Do you?

Further lessons will follow, if necessary. But I think that'll get you heading in the right direction. After a week or two of non-self-centered posts -- spelled so people can understand them -- composed of Firefly-related content, you should start getting some tolerance, if not respect from the other regulars.

It's going to be a slow and possibly painful process, though. Some will undoubtedly flame you based on your past posts. But if you stick it out and take your lumps, they'll eventually forget all this nonsense and make you feel like part of the community.

Remember, it's nobody's fault but your own. You must either make amends, quit in failure, or keep getting your backside tarred every time you post.

Respectfully,

zoid

P.S.
sanmi77: A second request: AGE and GENDER, please. Nationality would be good, too, especially if you are a non-native English speaker. Help us understand you, by giving us some basic hints.
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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 6:41 AM

ZOID

Beatle wrote:

Quote:
...At least we're getting a new stadium...

Yeah, I had noticed a headline for a story on the Cowboys website that the Joneses had visited Bidwell for the stadium launch. I didn't read the story, mind you, because the 'business end' doesn't interest me.

Where's it going to be? Phoenix? Tucson? Arizona has had a championship franchise in baseball (something Texas has never had) and a highly successful one in basketball. There's no reason except one why y'all can't have a successful football franchise someday, too. (Think: A lone gunman or three, a high-powered rifle and Bill Bidwell.)

The Cowboys and Cardinals continue to have a good business relationship, even though the competitive aspect has been pretty one-sided since the mid-70's (Jim Hart at QB, team still in St. Louis)...

Fanatically,

zoid
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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 7:20 AM

STARRBABY

*Runs over to Zoid and squeezes him around the waist*

You give the best constructive crit ever!

*Prances off to another thread in which she can actually contribute*

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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 7:33 AM

ZOID

Thank you most kindly, 'baby.

*zoid glows from affection unexpectedly lavished on him by Starrbaby*

I always give people the benefit of the doubt. I believe in them, even if they don't believe in themselves. I'm a hopeless romantic that way. And I'm an unstinting believer in the power and hope of Redemption.

I'm a lover, not a hater. That's my secret; don't tell anyone...

Yours Truly,
-zed

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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 7:40 AM

CHRISISALL

Zoid, he seems to have at least opened a dictionary, do you think he's been shaken enough to see that he really could be accepted?

The hopefull Chrisisall

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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 7:42 AM

STEVETHEPIRATE

Z, I like the rules you set forth in your

on Sanmi a bit ago. However, I'm afraid I've been in violation of one of those rules at least a few times. Therefore, I've altered my signature so that will never be an issue again.

I'd hate to set a bad example for potential Browncoats out there.

... or would i?

No, really. I'd hate it.

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... and THAT'S why I love Firefly.
- STEVEthePIRATE, 4.13.05 (signature changed to abide by the FFF.net rules set forth by the amazing Zoid)

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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 7:55 AM

ZOID

chrisisall wrote:

Quote:
Zoid, he seems to have at least opened a dictionary, do you think he's been shaken enough to see that he really could be accepted?

I certainly hope so. I'd hate to think we were shunning a neophyte simply for being naive and ignorant of etiquette.

But I'm still betting sanmi77's a 'she', not a 'he'. The style and content are all wrong for a male misfit. I think that she's making a genuine effort to make herself more palatable, by drastically reducing her misspells/misuses. I'll address her disuse of punctuation at a later date, once things normalize a bit. For now, she's at least understandable; I'm seeing improvement.

If this was a 'nugget' clone or multiple personality, the spelling would be getting worse not better, and there'd be a lot more name calling, instead of just complaining about being misunderstood. And the name calling wouldn't be limited to the forgivable "you people"; it'd be specific and vulgar.

We'll just have to wait and see if Humility is part of her repertoire. If so, there's some hope for her becoming one of us, and I like new voices. If not, then she will undoubtedly continue to get punished until she finally just quits...

Respectfully,

zoid
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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 8:03 AM

ZOID

StP wrote:

Quote:
...I'm afraid I've been in violation of one of those rules at least a few times...

Heh-heh, we all have (myself especially). Know what happens when we do? We get ignored or

'ed, that's what.

Everyone digresses somewhat here on the GenDis board. That's what makes it 'General Discussion', and that's why it's my home. None of us are single-minded, and everything ties together with everything else.

That's why I love this place...

Respectfully,

zoid
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"Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me." The Ballad of Serenity

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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 8:18 AM

STATIC

As much as I respect Zoid, I must say this. . .

"Flaming" a troll (which, I believe Sanmi is NOT) has no effect save to give the flamer a small ammount of smug satisfaction.

See. . .trolls surround themselves in an air of superiority to those being 'trolled'. Our flame-a-rific responses to them only feed their egos and give them more to chew on.

I see similar behavioral traits in my students (middle school). These individuals are convinced that everything they say is right and that they know more than everyone else.

For the love of God. . .if you have a problem with another poster, folks. . .IGNORE that poster. If they ARE a troll, you're only feeding the beast. If they are NOT a troll, you're making us look like trolls ourselves.

It's SO EASY to NOT READ something.

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http://burstsofstatic.blogspot.com/

Evil, Lecherous Hump

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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 8:39 AM

ELWOODMOM

Quote:
Originally posted by zoid:
Thank you most kindly, 'baby.

*zoid glows from affection unexpectedly lavished on him by Starrbaby*

I always give people the benefit of the doubt. I believe in them, even if they don't believe in themselves. I'm a hopeless romantic that way. And I'm an unstinting believer in the power and hope of Redemption.

I'm a lover, not a hater. That's my secret; don't tell anyone...

Yours Truly,
-zed

Your kind advice was very...uh...kind of you. I hope things work out with Sanmi. She reminds me of someone on the OB, but her name was Cronogir, or something like that.

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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 9:36 AM

BEATLE

Quote:
Originally posted by zoid:
Where's it going to be? Phoenix? Tucson?

It's going to be in Glendale, west of Phoenix. They've really developed that side. It used to be all cotton fields and farming. Here's a look at the design...
http://www.azcardinals.com/stadium/design.html
There are Cardinal fans out here but it's sad that most people who go to the games go to see the other teams. The Cowboys are very popular here so that's one of the few times they sell out.

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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 9:43 AM

SHINY

Quote:
Originally posted by Static:
As much as I respect Zoid, I must say this. . .

"Flaming" a troll (which, I believe Sanmi is NOT) has no effect save to give the flamer a small ammount of smug satisfaction.

See. . .trolls surround themselves in an air of superiority to those being 'trolled'. Our flame-a-rific responses to them only feed their egos and give them more to chew on.

Agreed. Don't feed the trolls. Since we don't currently have a 'report post' button, just e-mail Haken or myself via our profiles and if someone is indeed trolling, we'll move the threads to Troll Country (or delete individual posts as needed).

Jayne, your mouth is talkin. Might want to look into that.

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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 10:51 AM

ZOID

Beatle:

Are you happy with the new stadium's design? On the positive side, the interior view is reminiscent of Bank One Ballpark's 'daylight' outfield. The outside view has got a little too much 'circus tent' going on, IMO.

But if the fans are happy, who am I to grumble? And ultimately, it's not about how it looks, it's about whether or not it entices fans to attend games and whether or not it serves the fans' needs for comfort and identification with the team. As long as the stadium says "Home of My Team, the Arizona Cardinals" in the fans' minds, then it will be a success.

v/r,
-zed

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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 10:56 AM

ZOID

Shiny:

So who was responsible for leaving "ask ndugu" on the GenDis board, rather than flushing it to Troll Country? It was a total flame-fest from beginning to end. No socially redeeming commentary.

As I told Mal-Licious in a personal message, I don't chase 'em into Troll Country; but if y'all leave 'em out here to abuse good folk, I'm gonna rip 'em a new one, every time...

Respectfully,

zoid

P.S.
It's still not too late to act on that request, either. I don't particularly want "ask ndugu" on GenDis' "Read Threads That Have Been Archived" page either, yet, there it is. That thread belongs in Troll Country, period.
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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 11:16 AM

THEGREYJEDI

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Originally posted by sanmi77:
let he who has not sinned cast the first stone.

*throws a big rock at Sanmi77.*

it's "Let he who is without sin..." in the bible. But luckily, you didn't quote the bible. So I can smack you with rocks.

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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 11:52 AM

SHINY

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Originally posted by zoid:
So who was responsible for leaving "ask ndugu" on the GenDis board, rather than flushing it to Troll Country? It was a total flame-fest from beginning to end. No socially redeeming commentary.

Unfortunately, I don't have enough time to visit FFF.net every day or read every thread, that's why I asked that people at least send us an e-mail to alert us to problems. I've moved the "ask ndugu" thread to Troll Country. Please let me know if any other trolls pop up.

Jayne, your mouth is talkin. Might want to look into that.

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Wednesday, April 13, 2005 12:00 PM

ZOID

Shiny wrote:

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...I've moved the "ask ndugu" thread to Troll Country...

Thanks for taking care of that, Shiny. And I'll be sure and 'Message' you from your Profile page, when we get another 'un. Haken must be really busy. I've 'messaged' him a couple times (like twice) about differing issues and never received any response...

Respectfully,

zoid
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