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Well, after reading the 'Place your bets on the space shuttle' thread...here, doggie. Fill the nice bag for Uncle Geezer.

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I did some quick searching a while back. The info is all available on the net with a little (very little) looking. The problem is that PN had links to his own website which of course led to his real name and contact info ....

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Hell...

I thought I was the one who " outed " him when I revealed that PN and Hero were one and the same

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Such a portentous, high and mighty thing to say.

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I doubt that boy. This is you opportunity to kick a small man while he's down. Says a mighty bit about you and your character.

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If I were born in Bush's place, I'd be lying and warring too,

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Hell...

I thought I was the one who " outed " him when I revealed that PN and Hero were one and the same

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I thought that too...I was trying to figure out how I kept getting from Ohio to Tennessee and back without putting miles on my car. My only conclusion is I must have been using PN's car. Now I find out PN is this whole other person. That makes four of us: PN, PN's real name, Hero, and the person typing this message. Either you were wrong or we're all in a lot more trouble then we thought.

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A big man? I'm ordinary folk boy, but I leave a person be when the chips are down in their court.

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If I were born in Bush's place, I'd be lying and warring too,

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If I were born in Bush's place, I'd be lying and warring too,

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Yeah, Pepsi rules.

Chrisisall

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PirateNews.org

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Straight off his website
http://piratenews.org/contactproducer.html

For him, it's just prolly free advertising.


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typical right-wing-nut eliminationist fantasy post
Go hunt them down and do America a favor. Get their photo, street address, where their kids go to school, anything you can dig up, and send it to the link above. This is your chance to be famous - grab for the golden ring.

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His web site is full of slander, pornography and disgusting topics.

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Twenty-Five Ways To Suppress Truth: The Rules of Disinformation

Includes The 8 Traits of A Disinformationalist

by H. Michael Sweeney
www.MKZine.com
Spring/Summer 2003

5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary 'attack the messenger' ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as 'kooks', 'right-wing', 'liberal', 'left-wing', 'terrorists', 'conspiracy buffs', 'radicals', 'militia', 'racists', 'religious fanatics', 'sexual deviates', and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.

6. Hit and Run. In any public forum, make a brief attack of your opponent or the opponent position and then scamper off before an answer can be fielded, or simply ignore any answer. This works extremely well in Internet and letters-to-the-editor environments where a steady stream of new identities can be called upon without having to explain criticism, reasoning -- simply make an accusation or other attack, never discussing issues, and never answering any subsequent response, for that would dignify the opponent's viewpoint.

9. Play Dumb. No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues except with denials they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect.

17. Change the subject. Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed here, find a way to side-track the discussion with abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning attention to a new, more manageable topic. This works especially well with companions who can 'argue' with you over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in order to avoid discussing more key issues.

18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you can't do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how 'sensitive they are to criticism.'

www.whale.to/m/disin.html
www.911review.org/Wiki/RulesOfDisinformation.shtml
www.whale.to/b/sweeney.html

Examples & response:
www.proparanoid.net/truth.htm

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Do you believe a government can be shamed into or out of what it's doing by the actions of individuals?

Joss Whedon:

The idea was to say that people can make a difference, they can show the wrongs that are being done. They can speak out against them and make people aware of them. They can even create giant scandals. Sometimes they can topple governments. The point is that the truth is always more important than the power structure, and whether you make a dent or not, the fact that you succeeded in trying is a victory.

-Serenity - The Official Visual Companion

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Jolie123 must be one of those disgusting sodomite pedophiles

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Jolie123 must be one of those disgusting sodomite pedophiles

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PN, the whole world is not against you, why do you go looking for more enemies?
Much of what you believe is based on fact, if it's your motive to educate, why then obfuscate with deviant sexual and racist rhetoric?
Stick to issues, and not flame-bating, your cause will be better served.

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If you don't stand for something you'll fall for anything.

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Since Firefly and Serenity discussed CIA's MKULTRA Monarch slave program,

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...the long awaited love scene between Kaylee and Inara

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...the long awaited love scene between Kaylee and Inara

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...the long awaited love scene between Kaylee and Inara

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...the long awaited love scene be...

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...the long awaited love scene between Kaylee and Inara

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...the long awaited love scene between Kaylee and Inara

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...the long awaited love scene between Kaylee and Inara

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Oh. Sorry. What were we talking about? Outing Pilot Nudes?

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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the long awaited love scene between Kaylee and Inara.

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