RP - Out of Character Commentary - "Badger's Betrayal" or "Adventures in Gunrunning" by Astriana

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shininess! Glad I was able to help.

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Friday, January 16, 2004 5:32 AM

LOL! I just realized something really cool! This is like our own version of an episode with cast commentary (like on the DVDs). That is shiny, spiffy, and cool! Yay! *happy dance*

~A~

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Friday, January 16, 2004 5:34 AM

ZACHSMIND

Okay we can give this a try, but I reserve the opinion that there are times when a strategically placed OOC in the roleplay thread itself can actually be beneficial. I can't come up with an example off the top of my head, but I also don't want to see either of these threads deteriorate into an argument where someone chooses to be a little OOCly in the actual roleplay thread. What if someone who's playing chooses not to peruse both of these threads equally? Or they usually do but that one time it actually matters they neglect coming in here and don't see some message that they shoulda seen?

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Friday, January 16, 2004 5:35 AM

Excellant idea!

Welcome to the 'real' Green Room?

So, I'll post here what I JUST posted on the 'Stage' thread ...

OOC
Heh heh, meebe we should have a "mission clock" with each post ...

IE:

SIMON'S MOVE
LOCATION : INFIRMARY 2023hrs
Book and Simon torture Niska with clog dancing music played on a kazoo.

JAYNE'S MOVE
LOCATION : INARA'S SHUTTLE 2021hrs
Inara moans softly in her sleep, startling Jayne as he ransacks her stash of classy porn.

Notice that Jaynes move is 2 minutes BEFORE Simon's move, even though Simon 'posted' first ...

Might help with the confusion ... sorry about the military time usage - habit!

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Friday, January 16, 2004 5:41 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by ZachsMind:
Okay we can give this a try, but I reserve the opinion that there are times when a strategically placed OOC in the roleplay thread itself can actually be beneficial. I can't come up with an example off the top of my head, but I also don't want to see either of these threads deteriorate into an argument where someone chooses to be a little OOCly in the actual roleplay thread. What if someone who's playing chooses not to peruse both of these threads equally? Or they usually do but that one time it actually matters they neglect coming in here and don't see some message that they shouldhave seen?

Agreed, how about a OCC 'note' thus:

OCC: Kaylee

meaning there is a specfic OCC in the Green Room/OCC thread for the person playing Kaylee. A OCC GENERAL, would be for well general stuff. I think you get the idea.

OR an 'actor' could cut-n-paste the link to the OCC as thus :

http://fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=17&t=3384

In order to signal there is a OCC they posted ...

And of course, a combo of both ideas.

OCC: Avatar Help!
http://fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=17&t=3384

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Friday, January 16, 2004 5:53 AM

i DO aim to misbehave

Quote:
Originally posted by ZachsMind:
Okay we can give this a try, but I reserve the opinion that there are times when a strategically placed OOC in the roleplay thread itself can actually be beneficial.

I would say comments on background work directly oriented for the story itself can stay in the "stage" post. Asking things like the locations of characters, letting everyone know the players have to fall down in bed and such can also stay there.

Topics like the recent conversation on my avatar changing to Jeannete Lee to better depict Rowan can be posted here.

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Friday, January 16, 2004 5:55 AM

Ok, once again, why is Kaylee the one being used as an example?!? LMAO...CapnRahn has a thing for me. *snicker*

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Friday, January 16, 2004 6:00 AM

ZACHSMIND

Man, y'all are thinking way too much into this.

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Friday, January 16, 2004 6:00 AM

Hey, I AM playing Simon after all ...

and we have YET had the opportunity to 'act' in the same scene.

I have to go now and practice putting my foot in my mouth in order to be able to correctly play Simon when he talks with Kaylee!

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Friday, January 16, 2004 6:03 AM

I can't control them EX game designer wanna-be twitches ...

Just gotta find answers to questions, queries, conundrums ... brain will 'splode if I don't ...

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Friday, January 16, 2004 6:05 AM

Well, y'know this is just supposed to help cut down on load time/number of threads we have to post for the actual RP. It's kinda on a trial period, so if it doesn't work, we don't use. No muss, no fuss.

~A~

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You can't take the sky from me.

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Friday, January 16, 2004 6:06 AM

i DO aim to misbehave

Quote:
Originally posted by CapnRahn:
OOC
Heh heh, meebe we should have a "mission clock" with each post ...

CapnRahn, you're not asking me to do math, are you? I'm an artist, not a mathematician

Oh - hey, would you mind pulling the big Jeanette pic from the "stage" post? I mean, she's goh-geous and all, but speaking as one who has a measly 56K modem at home, that's going to make bringing up the stage post even boggier than it is already.

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Friday, January 16, 2004 6:08 AM

No math, just a way to keep things in time perspective. It is hard for readers to keep track, because every 'actor' posts at, sometimes radically, differant times of the real day.

Like all other of my 'ideas' - Jus' practicin'!

Was actually going to do that - cable modem has spoiled me rotten ...

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Friday, January 16, 2004 6:29 AM

I feel a little out of place playing Kaylee here, folks. I mean, she doesn't really have any backstory, and she sure as hell doesn't have any secrets that she's keeping. That's just not in her character. Guess that's why my posts are so short. LOL...Kaylee seems like a kind of "filler". *sigh* Oh, well, trying my (sporadic) best.

CapnRahn, do you have any other pics of Kaylee? I'd love to change my avatar to one that not everyone else has access to. Might make my posts easier to find. Thanks!

BoomerGoodheart
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Friday, January 16, 2004 6:30 AM

CIARA

ahh Boomer--can't wait ta see Kaylee and Simon together!! I can see he has also commented on Jayne and Inara's nice stacks of porn--I can just see that!!

Mal and Inara have had scenes so far, but it's only been an internal longing thing--wonder if the readers are ready for some romance? Go geddem, Boomer!

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Friday, January 16, 2004 6:31 AM

Me too, Capn, me too! Any fantabulous shots of Zoe you feel like passin' 'round?

Don't feel bad, Boomer, I think you're doin' great! I'm having a little trouble keepin' Zoe "terse," though. Totally out of my personal character.

Ciara: Oooh! Romance! Yay! (Not that Zach isn't giving me enough WASH/ZOE romance or anything...

)

~A~

...I'm still free,
You can't take the sky from me.

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Friday, January 16, 2004 6:32 AM

i DO aim to misbehave

Quote:
Originally posted by CapnRahn:
No math, just a way to keep things in time perspective.

Was actually going to do that - cable modem has spoiled me rotten ...

Time...cannot run out of time. Time is infinite. You are finite...Zathras is finite and this...this is wrong tool...

Sorry, little B5 flashback there.

BTW, you're a sweetheart. Did I mention that?

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Friday, January 16, 2004 6:43 AM

Here's an idea that just popped into my head for Simon & Kaylee...

CapnRahn & I should get together on a time to meet up in Alpha Chat, where we would interact as our two counterparts. THEN, one of us would post the whole conversation in one solid go, so no waiting around to hear what the other one would say. Might make it flow a little more naturally...

Just a thought.

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Friday, January 16, 2004 6:51 AM

Many thanks Channain.

But you are mistaken ...
... No, indeed, I am not a 'Sweetheart' I am an evil man with evil plans. bwhahahahahahhahaha

{or at least a silly gimboid with time to kill ...}

UM ... pay NO attention to the technician behind the monitor ... AHEM ...

Gotta love insomina ... brings out the silly in ALL of us.

BACK TO AVATARS...
Sure, I'll post them in the Blue Sun Room and post a link here. That way you'll have a selection.

Ya know, Kaylee and Simon have ONLY held hands, in "Message" ... or am I wrong?

EDIT TO BOOMER
Great idea. It would be good for anybody doing a scene together to do that.

I am puppeting Book at the moment, but want Maniac to have input after I post. but that means editing and all that.

The Chat idead would help alot ... or something we could cut the good dialogue out of and then past it into a post for the 'Stage' thread.

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Friday, January 16, 2004 6:58 AM

The only real challenge I see there is to be able to be online at the same time as the people you're doing the scene with ~ which is something we haven't quite mastered yet. Might require making "dates" to be online with the folks you intend to interact with, but it could be done.

~A~

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You can't take the sky from me.

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Friday, January 16, 2004 7:07 AM

Agreed ... take a look at my latest post and you may see wht I mean about being uncomfortable about sockpuppting other members characters.

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Friday, January 16, 2004 7:12 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

Excellent idea here, esp. for me since I can't use IM or chat at work. Highspeed cable arrived just in time to let me keep multiple windouws open.

May I be the first to beg a little plotpoint support? When Mal, Zoe, et al get to the bar tell the bartender who you're looking for, and when he points to the disreputable heap on the floor ask him if he's Thorne.

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Friday, January 16, 2004 7:14 AM

I'm waiting patiently for Simon to post.

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Friday, January 16, 2004 7:16 AM

We got your back, Geezer.

Maniac, looks like you and CapnRahn are both on right now. Try the chat room:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/fireflychat.asp

~A~

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You can't take the sky from me.

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Friday, January 16, 2004 7:52 AM

By the way, could I ask a silly question? I still don't have a lot of the Chinese phrases memorized yet, and it takes a good long while to look up the scripts to get the translations. (Zoe doesn't speak a whole lotta Chinese in general, apparently - I checked.) When the characters start "spewing" Chinese, could we post the translations in brackets <>? I know I'd appreciate it, and those that don't have access to the Pinyinary might, too.

Thanks bunches!

~A~

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You can't take the sky from me.

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Friday, January 16, 2004 8:12 AM

Your wish is my favorite place ... keep it CLEAN!!! {hee hee, or not}

http://fireflychinese.home.att.net/index.html

I keep thinkin' the same thing about putting a full or PG13 subtitle to any of the Chinese I use... I would use this 'tho >Monkey bast...<

The other way + + It is there in my posting form, but not visable here. The 'greater than' and 'lesser than' symbols must be for some other coding when 'pointed' away from each other...

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Friday, January 16, 2004 8:30 AM

i DO aim to misbehave

Quote:
Originally posted by Astriana:
When the characters start "spewing" Chinese, could we post the translations in brackets <>? I know I'd appreciate it, and those that don't have access to the Pinyinary might, too.

You just saved me the trouble of asking if it would be too distracting to add translations. Being an Asian character, I figured Chinese would come as easily to Rowan as swearing in Arabic does for me. I think to keep the story flow, I'll add translations in brackets <> at the bottom of my posts. That kosher with ya'll?

I can send you a list, Astriana. I keep it on hand at home for fanfic.

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Friday, January 16, 2004 8:33 AM

Yeah, I like both those ideas, Channain and CapnRahn. Translations at the bottom of the page would be good, and if they need to be PG'd, I can add some kind of disclaimer in the leader post about adult or semi-adult content.

~A~

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You can't take the sky from me.

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Friday, January 16, 2004 8:54 AM

Got it to work for me ...

It requires a space tween the symbol and translation ... it SHOULD appear betewwn the plus signs...

no spaces + +

spaces + < Monkey Butt > +

I'll try this or the editorial brackets { } not to be confused with the reg. brackets. ][ (backwards so you can see 'em)

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Friday, January 16, 2004 9:12 AM

Soon I will be stepping out for a while. A sudden impromptu shindig with Tash has motivated me to leave town and go see him. I will await a move from Simon/CapnRahn at Tash's house. Worry not, I will post again tonight.

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Friday, January 16, 2004 10:02 AM

I made up my Chinese.

Told ya'll I sucked at it.

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Friday, January 16, 2004 10:17 AM

ZACHSMIND

BoomerGoodheart said: "I feel a little out of place playing Kaylee here, folks..."

I thought you were doing fine. If you're finding her skin kinda itchy? Try watching "Out Of Gas" again. There's plenty of meat there for Kaylee. Also "The Message" where she gets kinda entranced by the voice of Jonathan Woodward's character. Oh! And the ballroom scenes in "Shindig" and the events that led up to Malcolm getting her the dress.

Kaylee's thing is that everything she does sounds innocent because from her perspective even illegal or amoral behavior is all part of the cycle of life. She's like a.. uhm, like a carefree woodland spirit like a wood nymph or somethin'. She can hang around with base and disgusting satyrs and make them look like they're not so bad. She probably couldn't or wouldn't describe it in detail, but she just goes with the flow and does what comes natural.

Think Willow or Fred but without the self-conscious scruples. Kaylee never looks back with regret. She's always in the moment. I think you got her technospeak approach down solid. In other words she doesn't have any. The ship don't go cuz this don't work. If I fix this then she will go. Kinda Paklet mentality, to draw an obscure reference from STNG.

I assure you if you just delve into her character a little bit you'll feel more comfortable with her. She's "easy as lyin'" to get a grip on. She's a creature of nature, and communes with nature through the ship. There's a very weird combination of pagan and zen going on with her but if you just think of every molecule in the world as connected to the whole 'verse, you should do fine. =)

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Friday, January 16, 2004 10:23 AM

AVATARS!!!

Kaylee - I could'na resist!

and Zoe!

and how about a new one fer me ...

and one fer Geezer

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Friday, January 16, 2004 10:26 AM

Thanks Capn! How'd you do that so easy?

Edit: New synopsis in place for Act 1. Working on Acts 2 and 3. Will put Act 4 together tonight before starting the new IC thread.

~A~

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You can't take the sky from me.

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Friday, January 16, 2004 11:13 AM

I do a screen-capture from the DVD or scan a pic in on my scanner.

Then take it to ... ick ... PhotoShop {see note 1} and crop the pic and resize it to around 60 pixels by 60 pixels.

And viola' Avatar!

NOTE 1)I REALLY liked MicroGrafix PP, but Corel bought 'em out and shut 'em down. Still looking for the last thing MG made = MicroGrafix Picture Publisher Pro 10 anybody seen a copy?

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Friday, January 16, 2004 11:54 AM

That's a great picture of Kaylee, Capn, and I LOVE that pic of Simon. I've always loved his "introduction"...he looks so damn shady. Now how do I get Haken to change my avatar?

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Friday, January 16, 2004 12:19 PM

CIARA

aww poor widdle underused, underappreciated, MOSTER PROGRAM Photoshop :)

It IS a big, grumpy, mean 'ol program, isn't it?

Heya Zach--if you'd do a type of character-rundown of 'nara like you did of Kaylee, I'd find it most helpful. I'm not sure I'm playing her as "her"--guess her skin's a little itchy for me too :)

---Ciara

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Friday, January 16, 2004 12:54 PM

Boomer
Just emaill him with the pic attached and ask him.

haken@fireflyfans.net

Both Astrinia and I have already done so and have asked if they could be 'exclusive' to each of us.

Ciara

HEY!!! I like my widdle MicroGrafix PP 6 ... I can do more with it than I can PS 7!!!

Not mean and grumpy ... just don't like the controls ... been playing around with it fer months now ... snif ...

I 'spose I'll have to try Corel ... but they are the fraggers that bought out MicroGrafix an then ditched 'em.

... and to TOP it off, the full version of MG PP Pro 10 I have is a DEMO and thus has 30 day time-bomb on it ... any hackers around to help me dig that sucker out?

Zach
Hummm, I know there is a Firefly 'bible' somewhere ... we need to find it. It would help with those who are 'itchy'

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Friday, January 16, 2004 1:02 PM

i DO aim to misbehave

*Hand up*

Point of interest? What sort of planet is Hara? Core world, not so much, border world? Just wanting to get an idea about the atmosphere, so I know what kind of scenery Rowan will be looking at as she heads down to the docks...

Are their docks on Hara?

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Friday, January 16, 2004 1:03 PM

SAINT JAYNE

Quote:
Originally posted by Ciara:
aww poor widdle underused, underappreciated, MOSTER PROGRAM Photoshop :)

My worked forced us to move over to standard apps including PhotoShop. I did buy it; it's gathering dust somewhere.

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Friday, January 16, 2004 1:07 PM

CIARA

yeah, I started out with Photoshop, only because that's what our college had us learn in. I also use Painter and OpenCanvas, but not for graphic-type illustrations and stuff--

I wish I DID know how to use some of the other programs--I hate having to rely on photoshop so much

and now I have officially gone VERY far off topic *veers back*

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Friday, January 16, 2004 1:08 PM

Channain
Hara (or is it Hera) - Border world was it not?

In the battle scenes it looks like places around San Bernindo CA I have been. Great hills and ravines and the like.

Heh, they may have filmed there!

There SHOULD be docks, think about the landing area in "Serenity".

If it was considered the 'final' battle of the war, it should be a bustling planet, but still a border world.

I am at a loss, anybody else got better info?

SIDE NOTE- I contacted an old aquaintance at zoic studios (CGI company that did Firefly) he actually remembered me from our days of huskering at SciFi conventions. I am trying to get him to vist here more often.

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Friday, January 16, 2004 1:26 PM

HUMBLE

Quote:
Originally posted by Channain:
*Hand up*

Point of interest? What sort of planet is Hara? Core world, not so much, border world? Just wanting to get an idea about the atmosphere, so I know what kind of scenery Rowan will be looking at as she heads down to the docks...

Are their docks on Hara?

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CHANNAIN-I just made up the story elements as I went. Figured story would kind of write itself if given a basic structure. However, Hara is not a core planet. But it does have strategic value to Alliance commerce. Acts as a way-point between core planets and outer rim worlds. Moderate industry. Some small shipyards for repairwork, upgrades, and overhauls. Shopping centers, tourism of war sites. Some farming and lumber work. Has more alliance patrols lately due to Reaver attacks infringing upon shipping lanes. These are just some general concepts. Also has a thriving black market underground economy run predominately by former Independent Browncoats. Perhaps Rowan and Thorne know of other local nuances that will be revealed later?

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Friday, January 16, 2004 1:35 PM

i DO aim to misbehave

Shiny! I'll put that into my notes. I'd like to help create the atmosphere of the city. Looks like Mal's about to leave Serenity to meet with Thorne. Now THAT should be fun.

Yeah, I think Rowan would know a bit about the black market, and Thorne DEFINITELY would

Thanks Humble!

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Friday, January 16, 2004 3:14 PM

CapnRahn, your post forgot to include that Book left the infirmary and then came right back. He's in there with you.

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Friday, January 16, 2004 3:34 PM

Yes, I did miss-read that, I thouhgt you left ...

Oh and the blinds were pulled and door was already locked ... unless I misread your post further...

OK, fixing!

HEY Haken fixed my Avatar!

EDIT - Maniac, can you join me on the IRC?

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Friday, January 16, 2004 3:59 PM

yes, you're right, the door was locked. I went out and then after returning, locked it again. I didn't notice that you'd closed the blinds already... oh well.

I'm afraid I can't join you on the IRC tonight. I am currently shindigging at Tash's house, and checking in once in a while to see how things progress.

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Friday, January 16, 2004 4:15 PM

Thanks for the avatar, CapnRahn! I've sent it to Haken...hopefully he'll work his magic pretty soon.

BoomerGoodheart
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Friday, January 16, 2004 4:20 PM