Russia Doctored Photos by THGRRI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

I hope the Dutch investigation will examine all information for veracity and relevance to the MH17 being shot down with some type of device.

SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Monday, June 1, 2015 8:37 PM

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The Russians will admit everything...30 years from now.

I'd take that bet but I would not be here to collect.

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Monday, June 1, 2015 8:42 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Anything on the topic - yanno MH17 and relevant facts?

Of course not. Because you're a troll.

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Saturday, June 13, 2015 11:35 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Forensic image analysts who examined the work done by Bellingcat in exposing the "fraud" in the photo said that Bellingcat did their deconstruction exactly how you are NOT supposed to do it. Even the creator of the application that Bellingcat used (some metadata parser) basically said that the data does not mean what Bellingcat says it means.

And of course, you believed everything that was written in the western MSM ... up to just now, when your brain came to a screeching halt.

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This report is on the quality and validity of the Bellingcat report. This report makes no assertion that the images were or were not faked; it simply points out the almost completely fallacious basis for the Bellingcat report and its conclusions.

The Bellingcat report is hopelessly flawed from the very start. It relies on unsophisticated use of a (free) online ‘image checker’ to detect ‘evidence’ of forgery and relies on Google dates for imagery dates. Neither reliance is at all justifiable and any conclusions made from them cannot be used by any serious party.

They also rely on EXIF data as evidence of manipulation without addressing the very simple point that images have to be prepared for publication and so will naturally be processed by photoshop or equivalent to trim and enhance and annotate.

http://7mei.nl/2015/06/01/about-bellingcats-claim-russian-sat-pics-fak
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Don't you EVER tire of being wrong???? At SOME point, you really should stop trusting the press!

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Saturday, August 8, 2015 8:43 PM

Russian TV Deserters Divulge Details On Kremlin's Ukraine 'Propaganda'

Friday 7th August, 2015

Former employees of Russia's largest state media holding have divulged behind-the-scenes details about what they portray as a Kremlin propaganda campaign to deliberately mislead and inflame television audiences with news coverage of the Ukraine conflict.

http://www.bignewsnetwork.com/index.php/sid/235576863

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Saturday, August 8, 2015 11:08 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

goes nowhere - no news, no video, no nothing - like all of your posts

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Saturday, August 8, 2015 11:56 PM

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goes nowhere - no news, no video, no nothing - like all of your posts

Yeah it does. It goes to the article I quote which means as usual, you don't care what's said or care to even follow the link. For you Its time to defend Putin.

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Sunday, August 9, 2015 11:50 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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They describe how FOX officials dictated to FOX NEWS management and editors how news events should be covered, including whether incendiary buzzwords to discredit Russia should be deployed on air.

Yep, that's how it works!

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Sunday, August 9, 2015 3:48 PM

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They describe how FOX officials dictated to FOX NEWS management and editors how news events should be covered, including whether incendiary buzzwords to discredit Russia should be deployed on air.

First 1kiki says the link goes nowhere, a lie, and then you suggest Fox news is talked about, another lie. Below is what it really says.

"They describe how Kremlin officials dictated to VGTRK management and editors how news events should be covered, including whether incendiary buzzwords to discredit Ukraine should be deployed on air."

Absolutely nothing the two of you say can be trusted to be true.

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Sunday, August 9, 2015 4:19 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

I see you changed the link - post-editing again, like always

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Sunday, August 9, 2015 11:09 PM

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I see you changed the link - post-editing again, like always

No one here is buying that shit 1kiki. The prof is in this thread and the link I provided. It's a short thread and short article. Prof of both you and Sig lying is there for all to see.

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Sunday, August 9, 2015 11:15 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

poor little boy

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Monday, August 10, 2015 2:04 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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and then you suggest Fox news is talked about, another lie. Below is what it really says.

Wait, whaaaa....?

You think I was trying to convince people that the article talked about FOX News?

I was making a point. Even RAPPY would have figured that out!

Un-friggin-believable!

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Monday, August 10, 2015 10:16 AM

The two of you are liars and Russian trolls. I have said this since I arrived at this site and I have shown it to be true countless times. This is just one more of those times.

First, the link 1kiki says I changed brings you to the article I quoted at the start of the thread. Always has always will. The proof is in the fact that what I quote can be found there exactly as I quoted it. The link, the article, and what I quoted never changed. The script she says I changed is quoted exactly from the article each time.

Second Sig, anyone who reads your post and checks it against what was actually written in the article, can see what you claim the article says is false. One more lie from a compulsive liar. You see Sig, you put what you claimed the article said in quotes. There is little doubt what your intention was.

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Monday, August 10, 2015 10:36 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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Second Sig, anyone who reads your post and checks it against what was actually written in the article, can see what you claim the article says is false. One more lie from a compulsive liar. You see Sig, you put what you claimed the article said in quotes. There is little doubt what your intention was.

I'm sorry to have to say this, I really am, but I've been saying for quite a while that you're an idiot and with every post in this thread you prove me right. Maybe if I explain in detail, you'll understand the discussion and stop making an even bigger fool of yourself than you already have,

Son, you haven't been on this board long enough to know, but quoting a statement from the opposing camp and changing one or two words to make the point that what applies to one side also applies to the other is a well-known style here. The person who did that the most was KWICKO, who no longer visits but whose style is remembered clearly. SOMETIMES it's followed by "Fixed it for ya" and sometimes not. SOMETIMES followed by goose sauce = gander sauce, but usually not -the point was made well enough by modifying the relevant quote. It was assumed that the reader would be intelligent enough to get the point. If you care to do a google search for KWICKO, and plow through about 20 of his archived posts, you're likely to find at least one example.

Do you know how you should know that you're pumping the wrong argument? None of the other right-wingers here is joining your side. Everybody else realizes what the point of the modified quote was. I guarantee you that if anybody else here thought that my modified quote was a "lie" instead of a rhetorical device, they would be right here in this thread with pitchforks and flambeaux, shouting virtually for my head to be lopped off.

Be forewarned that in the future I will CONTINUE to use this rhetorical device, because it works to get the point across, to everyone who is capable of understanding it. Now, you are too.

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Monday, August 10, 2015 11:26 AM

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Sig
quoting a statement from the opposing camp and changing one or two words to make the point

Is a lie Sig and nothing else. It's something only you and 1kiki do and you do it all the time. Besides, you did not change one or two words of what I said. You pulled script from the article and misquoted it. As for the rest of what you say it is all subjective and off the point.

BYE.....

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Monday, August 10, 2015 11:33 AM