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Arizona - The New Democracy
Thursday, March 24, 2016 12:04 AM
SHINYGOODGUY
Thursday, March 24, 2016 1:28 AM
Thursday, March 24, 2016 10:45 AM
REAVERFAN
Saturday, March 26, 2016 5:52 AM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: Many independents who switched parties to Democrat (Bernie fans) were found to not have been registered as such, and were given provisional ballots (which weren't counted). Whole lotta hijinx going on in this election. Hillary's cheated in other states, too.
Saturday, March 26, 2016 6:05 AM
Saturday, March 26, 2016 6:57 AM
Saturday, March 26, 2016 7:16 AM
Saturday, March 26, 2016 5:56 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Now, it is my understanding that she was looking to save money by cutting down the overall number of polling places in the most populace county in Arizona, but by 70%? They went from 200 polling places to 60. This in a year where reports went out that there would be a record amount of voters. It is stated in this video, that they have 4 million voters in the Phoenix area. Maricopa county was expecting 800,000 voters and, it is estimated that only 600,000 got to vote. Okay, unless they had concrete info that only young people live the Maricopa County, usually Bernie supporters, then how is it that Hilary influenced Ms. Purcell to cut the polling places? SGG
Sunday, March 27, 2016 4:09 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Now, it is my understanding that she was looking to save money by cutting down the overall number of polling places in the most populace county in Arizona, but by 70%? They went from 200 polling places to 60. This in a year where reports went out that there would be a record amount of voters. It is stated in this video, that they have 4 million voters in the Phoenix area. Maricopa county was expecting 800,000 voters and, it is estimated that only 600,000 got to vote. Okay, unless they had concrete info that only young people live the Maricopa County, usually Bernie supporters, then how is it that Hilary influenced Ms. Purcell to cut the polling places? SGG So the last voter turnout for similar election was 300,000 statewide. Are you saying they should have expended enough money to accommodate 1 million? Some consider that a waste of money, a merely budgetary consideration. Are you saying that every voting district in American should expend enough funds to allow 250% or 350% of the nominal turnout? How many ballots do you think should be preprinted next time? Are you willing to fund this expense? I am shocked - shocked I say - that partisan Democrap Greg Stanton called for oversight. Curious how much excessive funding he provides to his election clerks to print excessive number of ballots.
Sunday, March 27, 2016 12:40 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Sunday, March 27, 2016 12:43 PM
Sunday, March 27, 2016 12:54 PM
Monday, March 28, 2016 2:32 AM
Monday, March 28, 2016 2:47 AM
Monday, March 28, 2016 8:14 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Now, it is my understanding that she was looking to save money by cutting down the overall number of polling places in the most populace county in Arizona, but by 70%? They went from 200 polling places to 60. This in a year where reports went out that there would be a record amount of voters. It is stated in this video, that they have 4 million voters in the Phoenix area. Maricopa county was expecting 800,000 voters and, it is estimated that only 600,000 got to vote. Okay, unless they had concrete info that only young people live the Maricopa County, usually Bernie supporters, then how is it that Hilary influenced Ms. Purcell to cut the polling places? SGG So the last voter turnout for similar election was 300,000 statewide. Are you saying they should have expended enough money to accommodate 1 million? Some consider that a waste of money, a merely budgetary consideration. Are you saying that every voting district in American should expend enough funds to allow 250% or 350% of the nominal turnout? How many ballots do you think should be preprinted next time? Are you willing to fund this expense? I am shocked - shocked I say - that partisan Democrap Greg Stanton called for oversight. Curious how much excessive funding he provides to his election clerks to print excessive number of ballots. You must admit that there is great interest in this year's presidential race, regardless of party. Then you have THE most populated county in the state. You with me so far? The other counties average between 2,100 - 2,300 voters per polling place (according to records). Maricopa County, after the closures of 140 polling places, went to an average of 21,000 per polling place. Do you think there might be a line outside the polling places?
Quote: Now, I'm not claiming I know all the details of the voting process in Arizona, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that cutting back on voting/polling places by that much would cause problems. Ms. Purcell admitted as much in an interview and took full responsibility before a City Council meeting. She said she screwed up, of course after blaming the voters for exercising their right to vote. Pesky voters! Funny thing was that she guaranteed that Hilary would win in Arizona by her idiot move. Of course, that's not the issue. What makes it all the more insane is that Ms. Purcell is a republican, smug bitch, tried to deny the taxpayers of the county their rights as citizens to participate in the political process. All this without issuing advance notice as to her plan. You want to save taxpayers money, RESIGN. From the Maricopa County Recorder's website: Helen Purcell (Republican) is your Maricopa County Recorder. Helen was elected to the office in November 1988 and is now serving her 7th term. Ms. Purcell’s statutory duties and responsibilities include recording and maintaining for permanent public record, 3,000 to 7,000 documents per day (digital recording is 80% of the daily recording) and maintaining voter registration rolls for nearly 2,000,000 registered voters. She is responsible for administering the Elections Department which conducts all national, state and county wide elections, and provides support for cities, towns, school districts, special districts, and other jurisdictions. Most years since 1999, the office has processed over 1,000,000 documents reaching 1,974,576 in 2005. http://recorder.maricopa.gov/recorder/ You want to save money? Why not advertise the Permanent Early Voting Method? Arizona has such a law in place. You can cut costs by encouraging people to apply and vote early. Of course, it would take a person with some brains to do that. And, just in case, as others have suggested, that Hilary had anything to do with this debacle; riddle me this: Why would a republican elected official ever listen to a Democratic candidate? #SomethingisRotteninDenmark SGG
Tuesday, March 29, 2016 5:54 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Now, it is my understanding that she was looking to save money by cutting down the overall number of polling places in the most populace county in Arizona, but by 70%? They went from 200 polling places to 60. This in a year where reports went out that there would be a record amount of voters. It is stated in this video, that they have 4 million voters in the Phoenix area. Maricopa county was expecting 800,000 voters and, it is estimated that only 600,000 got to vote. Okay, unless they had concrete info that only young people live the Maricopa County, usually Bernie supporters, then how is it that Hilary influenced Ms. Purcell to cut the polling places? SGG So the last voter turnout for similar election was 300,000 statewide. Are you saying they should have expended enough money to accommodate 1 million? Some consider that a waste of money, a merely budgetary consideration. Are you saying that every voting district in American should expend enough funds to allow 250% or 350% of the nominal turnout? How many ballots do you think should be preprinted next time? Are you willing to fund this expense? I am shocked - shocked I say - that partisan Democrap Greg Stanton called for oversight. Curious how much excessive funding he provides to his election clerks to print excessive number of ballots. You must admit that there is great interest in this year's presidential race, regardless of party. Then you have THE most populated county in the state. You with me so far? The other counties average between 2,100 - 2,300 voters per polling place (according to records). Maricopa County, after the closures of 140 polling places, went to an average of 21,000 per polling place. Do you think there might be a line outside the polling places? So there was an expected turnout of about 6,000 per polling place, judging from the 2012 turnout? And you consider the 2012 election cycle to be of little interest? Are you showing your bias because you only vote for Obamination? Quote: Now, I'm not claiming I know all the details of the voting process in Arizona, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that cutting back on voting/polling places by that much would cause problems. Ms. Purcell admitted as much in an interview and took full responsibility before a City Council meeting. She said she screwed up, of course after blaming the voters for exercising their right to vote. Pesky voters! Funny thing was that she guaranteed that Hilary would win in Arizona by her idiot move. Of course, that's not the issue. What makes it all the more insane is that Ms. Purcell is a republican, smug bitch, tried to deny the taxpayers of the county their rights as citizens to participate in the political process. All this without issuing advance notice as to her plan. You want to save taxpayers money, RESIGN. From the Maricopa County Recorder's website: Helen Purcell (Republican) is your Maricopa County Recorder. Helen was elected to the office in November 1988 and is now serving her 7th term. Ms. Purcell’s statutory duties and responsibilities include recording and maintaining for permanent public record, 3,000 to 7,000 documents per day (digital recording is 80% of the daily recording) and maintaining voter registration rolls for nearly 2,000,000 registered voters. She is responsible for administering the Elections Department which conducts all national, state and county wide elections, and provides support for cities, towns, school districts, special districts, and other jurisdictions. Most years since 1999, the office has processed over 1,000,000 documents reaching 1,974,576 in 2005. http://recorder.maricopa.gov/recorder/ You want to save money? Why not advertise the Permanent Early Voting Method? Arizona has such a law in place. You can cut costs by encouraging people to apply and vote early. Of course, it would take a person with some brains to do that. And, just in case, as others have suggested, that Hilary had anything to do with this debacle; riddle me this: Why would a republican elected official ever listen to a Democratic candidate? #SomethingisRotteninDenmark SGG
Tuesday, March 29, 2016 7:12 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: The law is clear on Provisional ballots, as stated above. I'm sure Arizona has other laws governing elections, ballots and voting in the state. I neither have the interest or the patient to look those up. Suffice it to say some rules were bent beyond recognition, and others ignored, well maybe. But one thing's certain, they were under the watch of a republican official. SGG
Wednesday, March 30, 2016 8:25 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Riddle me this Reaverfan............... Do you think that a democrat can influence a Republican, especially one that has been in her position since 1988. Also within a state that is decidedly Republican, as is Arizona. That person is Helen Purcell, the County Recorder, who has served 7 terms. So tell me, can Hilary force her to cheat on her behalf? Think about it! The scenario is more likely that Purcell wanted to ensure a republican win, than to help Hilary. One thing is sure, Purcell has mismanaged to help her party of choice, because now there will be a watchful eye on the comings and goings of her office and cushy position as County Recorder. Already challengers are surfacing. So, try as they may, the dye has been cast and watchdogs are on the horizon ready to pounce upon the slightest error or act of omission. SGG Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: Many independents who switched parties to Democrat (Bernie fans) were found to not have been registered as such, and were given provisional ballots (which weren't counted). Whole lotta hijinx going on in this election. Hillary's cheated in other states, too.
Sunday, April 3, 2016 3:44 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I was just trying to grab the URLs of the videos since they weren't playing for me on this page. -------------- You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.
Sunday, April 3, 2016 6:55 AM
Tuesday, April 5, 2016 7:52 PM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Riddle me this Reaverfan............... Do you think that a democrat can influence a Republican, especially one that has been in her position since 1988. Also within a state that is decidedly Republican, as is Arizona. That person is Helen Purcell, the County Recorder, who has served 7 terms. So tell me, can Hilary force her to cheat on her behalf? Think about it! The scenario is more likely that Purcell wanted to ensure a republican win, than to help Hilary. One thing is sure, Purcell has mismanaged to help her party of choice, because now there will be a watchful eye on the comings and goings of her office and cushy position as County Recorder. Already challengers are surfacing. So, try as they may, the dye has been cast and watchdogs are on the horizon ready to pounce upon the slightest error or act of omission. SGG Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: Many independents who switched parties to Democrat (Bernie fans) were found to not have been registered as such, and were given provisional ballots (which weren't counted). Whole lotta hijinx going on in this election. Hillary's cheated in other states, too. On Monday, Anonymous released the preliminary results of their own investigation into Arizona election fraud. So far the group has confirmed 151 voters whose party affiliation was altered ahead of the Arizona primary. Of those, Anonymous has verified that 12 republicans, 139 Democrats and one voter of unidentified party affiliation were impacted. The group further confirms that of the 139 Democrats they have identified thus far, two were Hillary Clinton supporters, 113 were Bernie Sanders supporters and 24 were of unknown preference. Anonymous is trying to determine if the voter database was hacked. During the hearing, Geoff Woods of Phoenix Rising Media testified that his organization is aware of at least 4,000 people whose party affiliation was changed. Secretary of State Reagan stated that her office handled more than 2,000 calls on election day, while acknowledging that the lack of staffing at her agency likely resulted in many calls going unanswered. After the Arizona legislature made the decision to shut down the hearing, in spite of the fact that many more disenfranchised voters had waited for hours to have their turn to speak, the hearing ended in chaos. http://www.addictinginfo.org/2016/0...ate-confirms-election-fraud-did-happen-video/
Wednesday, April 6, 2016 5:48 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Riddle me this Reaverfan............... Do you think that a democrat can influence a Republican, especially one that has been in her position since 1988. Also within a state that is decidedly Republican, as is Arizona. That person is Helen Purcell, the County Recorder, who has served 7 terms. So tell me, can Hilary force her to cheat on her behalf? Think about it! The scenario is more likely that Purcell wanted to ensure a republican win, than to help Hilary. One thing is sure, Purcell has mismanaged to help her party of choice, because now there will be a watchful eye on the comings and goings of her office and cushy position as County Recorder. Already challengers are surfacing. So, try as they may, the dye has been cast and watchdogs are on the horizon ready to pounce upon the slightest error or act of omission. SGG Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: Many independents who switched parties to Democrat (Bernie fans) were found to not have been registered as such, and were given provisional ballots (which weren't counted). Whole lotta hijinx going on in this election. Hillary's cheated in other states, too. On Monday, Anonymous released the preliminary results of their own investigation into Arizona election fraud. So far the group has confirmed 151 voters whose party affiliation was altered ahead of the Arizona primary. Of those, Anonymous has verified that 12 republicans, 139 Democrats and one voter of unidentified party affiliation were impacted. The group further confirms that of the 139 Democrats they have identified thus far, two were Hillary Clinton supporters, 113 were Bernie Sanders supporters and 24 were of unknown preference. Anonymous is trying to determine if the voter database was hacked. During the hearing, Geoff Woods of Phoenix Rising Media testified that his organization is aware of at least 4,000 people whose party affiliation was changed. Secretary of State Reagan stated that her office handled more than 2,000 calls on election day, while acknowledging that the lack of staffing at her agency likely resulted in many calls going unanswered. After the Arizona legislature made the decision to shut down the hearing, in spite of the fact that many more disenfranchised voters had waited for hours to have their turn to speak, the hearing ended in chaos. http://www.addictinginfo.org/2016/0...ate-confirms-election-fraud-did-happen-video/ So you think all that hacking would not have happened under anybody else's watch? You still blame that on her?
Wednesday, April 6, 2016 8:30 AM
Thursday, April 7, 2016 5:39 AM
Thursday, April 7, 2016 5:42 AM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: You left out a few factors. The rigging was deliberate. It helped Hillary, regardless.
Friday, April 8, 2016 6:04 AM
Wednesday, April 20, 2016 6:43 PM
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